J. UNFINISHED BUSINESS - WORK SESSION ON THE SUPERINTENDENT'S PROPOSED FY2024 OPERATING BUDGET (Dr. Williams and Mr. Hartlove) (7:55 - 8:55 p.m.)

[J. UNFINISHED BUSINESS - WORK SESSION ON THE SUPERINTENDENT'S PROPOSED FY2024 OPERATING BUDGET (Dr. Williams and Mr. Hartlove) (7:55 - 8:55 p.m.)]

PROPOSED FOIA 2024 OPERATING BUDGET. AND FOR THAT I CALL ON DR. YARBROUGH AND MR. HART LOVE

.>> GOOD EVENING, CHAIRWOMAN LICHTER, VICE CHAIR HARVEY AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF THE

EDGE OF EDUCATION. >> I'M PLEASED OPEN THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 OPERATING BUDGET SECOND WORK SESSION THIS EVENING. THE PROPOSED BUDGET IS CLOSELY ALIGNED TO THE BCP STRATEGIC PLAN. THE COMPASS OUR PATHWAY TO EXCELLENCE AND THE BLUEPRINT FOR MARYLAND'S FUTURE AT THIS TIME. TURN IT OVER TO MR. CHRIS HART LOVE CHIEF OFFICER AND CALL FORWARD MR. TANT LEAF DIRECTOR OF BUDGET AND REPORTING TO PROVIDE A BRIEF UPDATE ANSWER QUESTIONS THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING CHAIR LECTURE VICE CHAIR HARVEY. WE HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATIONS WITH SOME UPDATED INFORMATION WE'RE GOING TO THANK YOU. IT'S LOADED THERE .NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO BETWEEN THE LAST TIME WE MET AND TODAY THERE'S BEEN SOME SOME ADDITIONAL NEWS REGARDING REVENUE FROM THE STATE AND WE WANTED TO APPRIZE YOU OF THAT BEFORE GO ANY FURTHER IN THE PROCESS. SO THE FIRST THE FIRST ITEM IS AND THESE ARE BOTH RELATED TO STATE STATE AID. THE FIRST ITEM IS IS GOOD NEWS. WE HAVE WE WHEN WE RECEIVED OUR PRELIMINARY NUMBERS MSDE WE WERE PLEASANTLY SURPRISED THAT THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL 48.8 MILLION IN FOR COMPENSATORY EDUCATION THE INCREASE THE WE HAD AN UNPRECEDENTED INCREASE IN STUDENTS ELIGIBLE FOR COMP ED FUNDING WHICH IS BASED ON OUR FREE AND REDUCED ENROLLMENT COUNT. THE INCREASE 29.1% IN OUR FREE AND REDUCED ENROLLMENT IS PRIMARILY DUE TO THE INTRODUCTION OF THE USDA DIRECT CERTIFICATION MEDICAID PILOT. MARYLAND IS ONE OF SEVEN STATE STATES NEWLY APPROVED BY USDA TO PARTICIPATE IN THE MEDICAID MATCHING PILOT WHICH EXPANDS THE MARYLAND DIRECT CERTIFICATION SYSTEM TO INCLUDE ELECTRONIC MATCHING WITH MEDICAID. THAT'S BACKGROUND INFORMATION. THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE HAVE $48.8 MILLION OF ADDITIONAL REVENUE WHICH IS THE GOOD THAT WE RECEIVED THAT INFORMATION. WE WERE VERY, VERY HAPPY AND THEN WE THEN THE

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OTHER KIND SHOE FELL OR DROPPED .I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SAYING IS BUT WE HEARD OUR STATE AID MAY BE REDUCED BY 21.8 MILLION AND THIS IS DUE TO NET CHANGE IN NET TAXABLE INCOME. THE FORMULA FOR REVENUE IS WEALTH ADJUSTED SO THE THE FORMULA WORKS SUCH THAT THE JURISDICTIONS GET LESS PER STUDENT AND THE POORER JURISDICTIONS GET MORE PER STUDENT. SO IT'S SO THAT'S WHAT THEY CALL WEALTH ADJUSTED THE ORIGINAL CALCULATION HAD A LOWER NET TAXABLE INCOME FIGURE FOR BALTIMORE INCLUDED IN IT. IT WASN'T THAT'S NOT ANYTHING TO DO WITH OUR BUDGET OFFICE THAT IT'S IT'S IT'S CALCULATED BY THE STATE. THERE WAS A THERE WAS AN ERROR AND WHEN THEY FOUND THE ERROR THEY FOUND THAT OUR NET TAXABLE INCOME WAS HIGHER WHICH MEANT THAT WE'RE WEALTHIER WHICH MEANS WE ARE THE FORMULA THAT IMPACTS THE FORMULA NEGATIVELY AND WE WOULD LOSE. RIGHT NOW IT'S AN ESTIMATE $21.8 MILLION. SO THAT'S SO IT NETS OUT TO 27 ADDITIONAL SO THAT'S THAT'S GOOD NEWS. SO BUT THAT'S THE UPDATE ON REVENUE AND NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO JUST TALK ABOUT WHAT THIS MEANS. WELL IN NUMBERS SO SO AS I SAID BEFORE 48.8 IN COMPENSATORY EDUCATION AND THEN AT $21.8 MILLION REDUCTION THAT NETS THE $27 MILLION OF NEW REVENUE. WE ALSO HAVE HAVE HEARD FROM THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE THAT OUR INITIAL REQUEST WAS HIGHER THAN WHAT WAS GOING TO BE FUNDED. WE HAVE GONE FORWARD WITH WITH A REVISED REQUEST OF $23 MILLION. SO WE'RE USING APPROXIMATELY HALF OF THAT $27 MILLION TO REDUCE THE REQUEST TO COUNTY FROM 36.4 MILLION DOWN TO 23 MILLION. AND THEN WE WOULD USE THE REMAINING 16,000,006 I'M SORRY 13.6 MILLION AND WE WOULD PUT THAT TOWARDS COMPENSATION WHICH WOULD ALLOW US TO START TO ADDRESS COLA AND FOR OUR EMPLOYEES AND AS WE SAID IN THE SUPERINTENDENT HAD IN HIS BUDGET WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT

FURTHER EFFICIENCIES TO TO FUND A COLA IN THE BUDGET. >> SO THAT IS THE UPDATE ON REVENUE I DON'T KNOW IF I MISSED ANYTHING THERE WERE ANY ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT I GUESS AT THIS POINT THERE'S PUMPHREY AND WHEN YOU JUST SPOKE ABOUT THE POTENTIAL REDUCTION, HOW DO YOU COME UP WITH HOW DID YOU COME UP WITH THAT ESTIMATE A NUMBER AND WHEN CAN WE EXPECT TO HAVE AN EXACT

AMOUNT OR CLOSE TO EXACT AMOUNT ?>> VERY GOOD QUESTION WE'VE BEEN ASKING THAT SAME QUESTION OF MSDE. THEY HAVEN'T GIVEN US A SPECIFIC ANSWER YET. THE THE ESTIMATE CAME FROM DBM DEPARTMENT OF BUDGET AND MANAGEMENT AND WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING OFFICIAL YET BUT WOULD THAT IS THE THAT'S THE ESTIMATE FROM DBM OF OF WHAT THE IMPACT COULD BE. I ALSO THE COUNTY IS AWARE OF AND THE COUNTY IS ALSO TRYING TO SEE IF ANY COULD GET ANY TRACTION FOR A HOLD HARMLESS YOU KNOW FOR $21.8 MILLION REDUCTION. SO THERE ARE THINGS GOING ON THERE. IT'S NOT A DONE DEAL YET BUT WE FEEL AS THOUGH WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PROJECTING AND PUTTING A BUDGET TOGETHER. YOU NEED TO PUT TOGETHER REALISTIC BUDGET. WE THINK THAT THIS IS PROBABLY A HIGHER CHANCE OF THIS HAPPENING THAN NOT. SO WE THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE CERTAINLY SOMETHING YOU NEED TO BE OF AND PROBABLY WE BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. IT WOULD BE GREAT NEWS IF WE FIND OUT LATER THAT IT DOESN'T HAPPEN BUT I THINK WE SHOULD PLAN LIKE

WE WOULD PLAN IN OUR HOUSEHOLDS .>> WE WOULD PROBABLY SAY WE NEED TO PLAN ON THAT. YOU MR.

MILLION HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE CHART ABOUT THE SLIDE. >> MR. HART LOVE IF YOU TOTAL 48.8 AND 21.8 I COME UP WITH 70 MILLION POINT I'M SORRY THAT SHOULD BE A NEGATIVE. IT'S THE BRACKETS THEY MEAN. OKAY. YEAH .SO IT SHOULD BE A SUBTRACTION .YEAH. I'M SORRY. NO, NO, NO, NO. THAT'S NOT ON YOU IN THE SLIDE WE BROUGHT BACK AT IT I'M THE 48 MILLION. RIGHT, RIGHT.

AND THEN I'M TAKING THE 2020 1.8. RIGHT AND I JUST ADDED AN GATHER FOR MY SAKE. >> RIGHT THAT'S $70.6 MILLION THAT THAT CAME ABOUT. WE SUBMITTED OUR BUDGET. OH I SEE YES. YEAH AND

I'M AN AVERAGE GUY BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. >> YEAH. WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY IS THAT? >> IT DID WE DROPPED THE BALL DID THE STATE WAS THE STATE ON AND WAY THEY DID THIS I DON'T I DON'T

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GET THIS $70 MILLION AT THIS POINT IN TIME AFTER YES YOU'RE MIKE I IT'S A IT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION. I'VE BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS FOR A WHILE AS HAS MR. TANT WITH AND THIS IS VERY UNUSUAL I WOULD YOU WE DON'T GET THESE KIND OF CHANGES I WOULD SAY TWO TO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IT IS A LARGE AMOUNT OF AT THE LAST MINUTE WHEN YOU'RE IN THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN WITH MAJOR CHANGE TO THE FORMULA AND CHANGE THAT THAT CAME ABOUT THE WAY FREE AND REDUCED STUDENTS ARE MEASURED IT WAS SOMETHING THAT STATEWIDE EVERYONE IS KIND OF OF OF DEALING WITH IN THAT CASE IT'S A GOOD THING BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING MORE MONEY SO SO IT'S BECAUSE OF A CHANGE IN THE FORMULA THAT HAD AN UNINTENDED REPEATED IMPACT THE THE MAGNITUDE THE IMPACT WAS NOT ANTICIPATED BY THE STATE OR BY US WE DON'T WANT IT IN THE STATE REALLY ANTICIPATED THIS MAGNITUDE BUT THAT WAS GOOD NEWS WHERE WE WERE TO GET MORE MORE DOLLARS THE I THINK THE AIR ON THE NET INCOME THAT IS UNFORTUNATE BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED FROM THE STATE'S PERSPECTIVE AND THEY CALCULATED A FORMULA WITH A WITH A LOWER NET TAXABLE INCOME THEN THEY SHOULD HAVE AND IT'S IT'S YOU KNOW I ALWAYS FEEL THAT ERRORS IF YOU'RE GOING TO AIR AND GET MORE MONEY I'M OKAY IF I'M OKAY IF THEY SAY OH WE MADE A MISTAKE, YOU'RE GETTING MORE MONEY. I DON'T NECESSARILY LIKE SAYING OH WE MADE A MISTAKE AND IT'S LESS MONEY AND BUT THIS IS UNPRECEDENTED CHANGE IN FORMULA THAN CHANGE CHANGING THE WAY ENROLLMENT IS MEASURED THE FREE AND REDUCED ENROLLMENT IS MEASURED. YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S A LOT OF CHANGE HAPPEN QUICKLY AND THERE THERE WERE UNANTICIPATED CHANGES THAT CAME OUT OF THAT OUT OF THOSE OUT OF THOSE TO THE FORMULA. BUT I I DEFINITELY HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I DON'T LIKE TO BRING, YOU KNOW, CHANGES THIS OTHER THAN POSITIVE ONES TO YOU DID YOU HAVE OTHER SLIDES FOR THE PRESENTATION OR ARE YOU READY JUST QUESTIONS THAT'S REALLY IT AT THIS POINT I MEAN WE CAN JUST SUMMARIZE WHERE WE WHERE WE'VE BEEN AND THAT'S YOU KNOW WE INTRODUCED THE SUPERINTENDENTS PROPOSED OPERATING BUDGET WHICH IS OUT ON THE WEB FOR ANYONE THAT'S 374 PAGE BUDGET. WE HAD WE'VE HAD THREE SERIES OF QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS AND ALL THOSE ANSWERS ARE OUT OUR WEB I THINK IT'S 431 PAGES FOR ANYONE OUT IN THE AUDIENCE THAT'S THAT'S INTERESTED CAN GO OUT THERE VERY GOOD QUESTIONS I THINK THE BUDGET OFFICE AND ALL THE STAFF KIND OF CAME TOGETHER TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS, GET YOU GOOD INFORMATION SO YOU COULD MAKE GOOD DECISIONS AND I THINK AT THIS POINT ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS YOU WOULD HAVE AND ALSO THEN THINGS THAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT POTENTIALLY WANTING TO ADD OR SUBTRACT FROM THE BUDGET IF WE GET THOSE ITEMS THEN WE CAN START TO COST THEM OUT. SO WHEN WE WHEN WE ACTUALLY WHEN YOU APPROVE YOUR

ACTUAL BUDGET WE CAN GIVE YOU A REAL COST FOR WHAT THE ITEMS WOULD BE. >> OKAY SO FAR AS QUESTIONS I'D LIKE TO GO AROUND THE DAIS AND JUST ONE BY ONE INSTEAD OF DOING THE HANDS UP AND CHAT UP AND ALL PIECES. SO YOU CAN ASK ONE QUESTION AND IF YOU'LL FOLLOW ABOUT THAT QUESTION AND THEN IF WE NEED TO GO AROUND AGAIN. SO I'M GOING TO START WITH MR. MINSKY. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR A FIRST QUESTION? YES, FIRST THANK YOU. I KNOW I HAD A LOT OF DETAILED QUESTIONS BUT I WANTED ON PURPOSE AS FAR AS TAKING OUT THE PROFESSIONAL SUPPORT STAFF I WAS TRYING TO SEE WHERE THE SALARIES WERE AND THIS IS JUST ME DOING EXCEL SHEETS ON MY EXCEL AND WHEN I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS WHAT I WELL WHAT I NOTICED I SHOULD SAY IS THAT ON SALARIES WERE THAT WERE BUMPED UP EITHER ALREADY WE'RE MAKING 100,000 OR BUMPED UP TO 100,000 THEY GOT AN INCREASE OF ALMOST 2% AND ON AVERAGE AND THEN ON SALARIES WERE UNDER 100,000 ON AVERAGE THEY RECEIVED NEXT THEY DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY KIND OF ON AVERAGE THEY DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY KIND OF INCREASE IN THEIR SALARY. IT WAS ACTUALLY -0.6. SO AND WE ALSO ADDED ABOUT ALMOST NINE SALARIES THAT WERE OVER 100,000 WHILE WE TOOK AWAY 13 THAT WERE UNDER 100,000. IS IS THERE MORE THAT WE CAN DO THERE? I FEEL LIKE WE'RE GIVING MORE MONEY TO PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY IN THAT TOP LEVEL OF SALARY WISE AND NOT COMPENSATING THOSE THAT ARE ON THE LOWER SCALE AND YEAH. MR. OMINOUSLY WHAT I'D SAY IS IN THE BUDGET BOOK THE ONLY COMPENSATION CHANGES ARE STEPS SO. WHAT YOU'D SEE IS THAT'S DEPENDENT ON BARGAINING UNITS AND THE MOST SENIOR DON'T HAVE ANY STEP SO EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS CHIEFS YOU SEE ANY INCREASE AT

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ALL SO THE LARGEST INCREASES WOULD BE IN APS ME AND SPC BECAUSE THEY HAVE LARGE GAPS BETWEEN THEIR STEPS WHERE'S TAB GOES ABOUT 1.8% ON AVERAGE AND THE NOMS REPRESENTED ARE 2%.

BUT WHAT YOU'D NEED TO DO IS LOOK AT EACH LINE ITEM WE NEED TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT'S CAUSING THE CHANGE. YOU KNOW IT COULD BE A DIFFERENT POSITION. IT COULD BE MORE POSITIONS BUT THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO COLAS ON ANY EMPLOYEES AND THE ONLY INCREASE IS STEPS BASED ON

THEIR BARGAINING UNIT. >> BUT THESE AREN'T THEY? I MEAN I'M GOING BY HOW YOU SEPARATED THE APPENDIX AND THEN THE DEPARTMENTS SO I'M ASSUMING YOU KNOW UNDER SCHOOL IS A SCHOOL BASED AND THE WATERSHED THOSE ARE TEACHERS THAT ARE IN THE CLASSROOM CORRECT AND THAT APPENDIX IS THE PENDING SORRY APPENDIX A IS ALL TEACHERS THAT WOULD BE UNDER THAT COLA I MEAN UNDER TOBACCO OR OTHER I, I DON'T HAVE IT RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME BUT AGAIN THE ONLY INCREASES IN THE BUDGET BOOK ARE STEPS ACCORDING TO THE BARGAINING UNITS. SO IF YOU HAD A PAGE THAT YOU HAD A QUESTION ON WE COULD LOOK AT IT AND TELL YOU WHAT'S IN THERE. THERE'S NON-SALARY ITEMS IN THERE. YOU KNOW WE BROKE OUT THE PROFESSIONAL AND NONPROFESSIONAL FOR YOU BUT THERE ARE NO INDIVIDUALS GETTING ANYTHING MORE THAN A

STEP IN THE BUDGET BOOK. >> WELL I MEAN I TOOK IT EXACTLY AS YOU WHEN YOU BROKE IT DOWN AND YOU TOOK OUT THE STIPENDS YOU TOOK OUT. I WAS A SALARY AND THE WAGES PER APPENDIX PER AND I YOU KNOW, TOOK YOU HOW MANY PROFESSIONALS DO YOU HAVE THERE? I JUST DID TOTAL AVERAGES AND I MEAN SOME OF THEM WENT UP BY 24% EVEN OR 26% AND THAT'S JUST BY AVERAGE AGAIN THE ONLY IT COULD BE A DIFFERENT POSITION IN AGAIN I CAN'T SAY WITHOUT LOOKING AT THAT PAGE AND I YOU KNOW, SEND US ANY QUESTIONS WE'LL BE GLAD TO LOOK AT IT BUT. I'M JUST SAYING ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE BUDGET BOOK THE ONLY COMPENSATION CHANGE THAT ANY ONE GOT WAS A STEP INCREASE IF THEY WERE ENTITLED TO IT, IF THEY'RE ON THE TOP STEP THEN THEY WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN AN INCREASE IF. THEY'RE SENIOR, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN AN INCREASE BUT JUST ACCORDING TO WHERE THEY SIT ON THE SALARY SCALE UNLESS THERE WAS A DIFFERENT POSITION. THERE COULD BE POSITIONS BEING ADDED AND USUALLY IN THE BUDGET BOOK IT'LL TELL YOU IF THERE'S A REDIRECT OR IF THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL POSITION OR IF THERE IS A DIFFERENT POSITION A POSITION COULD MOVE FROM ONE OFFICE TO ANOTHER OFFICE AND YOU KNOW, WE TRY WE DETAIL IN EXCRUCIATING DETAIL BUT IF YOU SENT US QUESTIONS I COULD YOU KNOW WE RESEARCH IT AND GIVE YOU AN EXACT ANSWER ON THOSE BUT I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE ONLY CHANGE ANY EMPLOYEE RECEIVED IN THE SUPERINTENDENT BUDGET IS A STEP INCREASE IF THEY WERE ENTITLED TO IT. MR. MINSKY WHERE YOU WERE YOU COMPARING THE PRIOR YEAR BUDGET TO WE OKAY AND I THINK YOU KNOW JUST TO OF SUMMARIZE WHAT MR. CARNLOUGH IS SAYING IS IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ALWAYS THE SAME MAKE UP OF EMPLOYEES SO YOU KNOW SOME OF THAT COULD BE SOME OF THAT DIFFERENCE COULD BE IT COULD BE THE MIX OF EMPLOYEES, IT COULD BE IT COULD BE TURNOVER IN EMPLOYEES WHERE WE HAD SOMEONE LEFT AND THEN WE HIRED SOMEBODY THE PERSON WE HIRED IT IT WAS AT A HIGHER SALARY. BUT SO THERE'S ALL KINDS REASONS WHY THAT YOU

COULD GET THOSE KIND OF OF OF OF MATH. >> I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT YOU I DO THOSE SAME TYPES OF THINGS BUT YET AS FAR AS WHAT WE PUT IN THERE WAS JUST STEP FOR EVERYBODY. SO THAT PART IS IT THERE'S NO BUT AT THIS POINT THERE'S NOBODY GETTING ANY MORE THAN A STEP IN

THE BUDGET. >> SO DOES EVERYONE .THAT'S INCLUDED IN THIS BUDGET GET A STEP LIKE EVERY PERSON HERE GET STEP EVERYBODY EVERY LIKE EVERY SPECIAL EDUCATION THIRD YOU KNOW EVERYONE WHO'S GOING TO OFFICE, EVERY LEARNING PERSON EVERY OR IS IT JUST IT'S BASED ON THEIR BARGAINING AND WHERE THEY SIT ON THE SALARY SCALE. SO IF NOT BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS I'M INCLUDING EVERYONE I'M NOT JUST INCLUDING SCALE. I MEAN WE'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO RETAIN TEACHERS AND, GET TEACHERS IN. WE NEED TO FIND OUT A WAY TO MOVE MONEY AROUND WHEREAS SOMEONE AT THE TOP END OF THEIR PAY SCALE THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY A TEACHER IT'S GOING TO THAT WATER BUDGET ,THAT SCHOOL TEACHER FUND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING WE CAN WE LOOK INTO THAT RIGHT THANK YOU MS. PUMPHREY CAN I PASS FOR NOW PLEASE FOR MR. MCMILLIAN

JUST DID YOU PASS? >> SHE PASSED. OKAY. OKAY, OKAY. >> ALL RIGHT. I HOPE TO GET A

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PRESENTATION ON THE AGENDA AT NEXT MEETING ON ATHLETIC TRAINERS. CAN YOU GUYS WORK UP A FIGURE WHAT IT WOULD COST FOR THE 24 HIGH SCHOOLS TO HAVE INDIVIDUAL TRAINERS IN EACH GO ?TRAINERS I THINK MR. SEYE DID THAT SO WE CAN DUST OFF THE OLD BOOKS ON THAT. YEAH. TO GET YOU

INVOLVED IN THAT PIECE. >> THANK YOU MISS HAND, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YEAH THANK YOU .I DO AND MINE IS MORE OF A REQUEST ALONG THE SAME LINES AS MR. MINSKY'S QUESTION THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING US WITH THE REPORT OF GENERAL FUNDS, SALARIES AND WAGES. THAT'S EXTREMELY HELPFUL. I TOO WOULD LIKE TO SEE GREATER DETAIL ON THAT REPORT IF POSSIBLE IN TERMS OF THE DELTAS BETWEEN THE CURRENT ACTUAL BUDGET AND THE PROPOSED IN TERMS OF POSITIONS THAT ARE VACANT THAT ARE BEING ELIMINATED OR PROPOSED TO BE ELIMINATED VERSUS WHICH ARE BEING ADDED, THE OF THOSE POSITIONS OR TITLES FOR THOSE POSITIONS AND SOME INDICATION OF WHETHER IT'S AN ADD OR A REMOVAL IF IT'S BEING REMOVED BECAUSE IT'S VACANT OR SOME INDICATION OF WHAT'S HAPPENING .I THIS FORMAT IS FANTASTIC BUT IF IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO GET THAT INFORMATION AND AND I KNOW THOSE DETAILS ARE IN THE BUDGET BOOK BUT REALLY HELPFUL AND CLEAR THE WAY YOU'VE GOT IT OUTLINED IS THAT SOMETHING THE BOARD COULD RECEIVE? COULD YOU PLEASE PROVIDE THAT REQUEST IN WRITING SO WE COULD SEE EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? I'M SURE WE

CAN WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE AS LONG AS THE INFORMATION EXISTS. >> ABSOLUTELY. AND I'M REFERRING TO IN THE QUESTIONS SET I BELIEVE IT WAS IN RESPONSE TO MS.. DOMINUS QUESTION THE EXCEL SHEET, THE REPORT OF GENERAL FUND AND WAGES I GUESS I'LL JUST ADD IT'S THERE'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF DATA THAT REPORT AND SO WE'LL HAVE TO JUST SEE EXACTLY YOU'RE ASKING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN PULL IT TOGETHER. IT COULD BE A MANUAL EXERCISE. WELL, DO WHATEVER WE POSSIBLY CAN. OKAY .BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF THE REQUESTS YOU MAY RECEIVE FROM THE BOARD ARE TO COST OUT POSITIONS WE WE'VE PRIORITIZED IN THE PAST POSITIONS AND SALARIES AND. THAT'S THE DATA WE REALLY NEED AT THAT GRANULAR OF A LEVEL TO UNDERSTAND ALL OF THE DELTAS AND AND AS MR. OMINOUSLY SAID WHERE THOSE CHANGES ARE BEING MADE. SO WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL TO SEE THOSE DELTAS IN ONE PLACE TO UNDERSTAND THAT AND IF WE DO PROPOSE ANY AMENDMENTS IT'S JUST HELPFUL BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT MOVING PARTS IT'S A BIG

BUDGET AND AND THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. SO I'LL SUBMIT MY MY REQUEST IN WRITING. >> THANK

YOU. >> THANK YOU. MS. JONES DO YOU HAVE A OKAY AND AN OKAY. >> MS. HARVEY THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I THINK THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING ALL OF MY QUESTIONS PREVIOUSLY AND I APPRECIATE THE DETAIL PROVIDED. I THINK I WANT TO REITERATE, YOU KNOW WE OFTEN SAY THAT THIS SYSTEM IS ABOUT AND WE ARE ALL CONCERNED ABOUT OUR ABILITY TO PROVIDE QUALITY AND EQUITABLE EDUCATION TO OUR STUDENTS AND THAT BEGINS WITH TEACHERS AND IS CERTAINLY ENCIRCLED WITH ALL OF THE OTHER STAFF THAT SUPPORT THAT PROCESS AND. I WOULD STRONGLY URGE THAT WE LOOK AT THE BUDGET AND WE TRIM IN AREAS FROM THE OUTER CIRCLES IN SO THAT WE CAN USE AS MUCH OF OUR RESOURCES WE POSSIBLY CAN TO SUPPORT HAVING COMPETITIVE SALARIES FOR OUR TEACHERS AND STAFF SO THAT WE

CAN RECRUIT AND RETAIN TEACHERS FOR OUR STUDENTS. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR. SON. AS OF RIGHT NOW I THINK I'M GOING TO I MEAN THINK I'M GOING TO TAKE A PASS .I THINK A LOT OF BOARD MEMBERS ARE ASKING SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD AND I DO WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE TO ABSORB THE INFORMATION THAT YOU GUYS HAVE PROVIDED. SO THANK YOU. I WILL GET BACK TO YOU WITH ANY QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE. THANK YOU, MR. OFFERMAN OFFERMAN. DR. SAVOY, NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. IT WAS VERY EXPLAINERS, SELF-EXPLANATORY REALLY. SO I'LL HAVE EIGHT QUESTIONS.

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NOTHING TO ADD TO THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU, DR. HAGER. AND I ALSO DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I'M TO SEE HOW THE NEXT FEW WEEKS GO WITH RESPECT TO THE DIFFERENT NEGOTIATIONS WITH OUR BARGAINING UNITS AND AND I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE ALL OF THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS AND THOSE WHO'VE BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE WHO'VE BEEN WORKING SO HARD AND GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET ASKING SO MANY GREAT QUESTIONS AND I'M HEARING THAT FOLKS ARE MAKING THEIR OWN SPREADSHEETS. I JUST THINK IT SHOWS THAT OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM IS IN REALLY GOOD HANDS AND I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE

ALL OF EVERYONE'S HARD WORK WITH THE BUDGET. >> THAT'S IT. THANK YOU DR. HAGER OKAY. >>

YES, MS. JONES, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION, DR. COHEN? >> I MEAN MR. COHEN, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I DO HAVE A QUESTION ,MR. HART LOVE AND MR. TALENT LIVE. COULD YOU AGAIN JUST QUICKLY THE PERCENTAGE OF DOLLARS GO TO PAY FOR PEOPLE IN OUR OPERATING BUDGET?

ROUGHLY 85% SALARIES AND BENEFITS. >> OKAY. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE BULK AND ANY KIND INCREASE IN THAT HAS A MASSIVE OUTSIZED IMPACT ON ON ANY KIND OF CHANGES TO THE BUDGET. RIGHT .SO IF WE'RE LOOKING AT A COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT, AN 5% OF OUR BUDGET IS ON ON PEOPLE.

THE MAGNITUDE OF THAT IS IS VERY SIGNIFICANT RIGHT. >> YES .YEAH. THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE IN A SERVICE ORGANIZATION LIKE A SCHOOL SYSTEM, SALARIES BECOME YOU KNOW, THE BIGGEST THE LARGEST COST THAT YOU HAVE WHETHER IT'S ADDING PEOPLE IS EXPENSIVE AND TAKING CARE OF YOUR PEOPLE BY GIVING THEM INCREASES IS EXPENSIVE AND IT

TYPICALLY IS MUCH LARGER THAN WHAT THE COSTS ARE. >> SO WITH BEING THE CASE AND THE INFLATION OR THE INFLATIONARY ENVIRONMENT WE'VE BEEN YOU KNOW WE'VE BEEN UP AGAINST THE PAST TWO PLUS YEARS IT YOU KNOW, WE ARE ALWAYS CHASING AND UNABLE TO MEET THOSE NUMBERS IF THEY ARE GAINING AT SIGNIFICANT TIMES WITHOUT SPENDING 100% OR BUDGET OF OUR BUDGET ON PEOPLE

.IS THAT IS THAT ACCURATE. >> YEAH IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO TRY TO TO ADDRESS THE SALARY BY REDUCING THE NON-SALARY YOU DO RUN OUT OF YOU YOU'VE RUN OUT OF OPTIONS EVENTUALLY YOU THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE BUILT IN WE HAVE TO PAY FOR OUR UTILITIES. WE HAVE TO FOR YOU KNOW, ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU KNOW OR SUPPLIES AND MATERIALS AND SO ON THERE'S YOU KNOW, MANY THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE SO YOU CAN ONLY GO SO FAR WITH THOSE REDUCTIONS AND.

ACTUALLY MR. TALENT AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT THIS MORNING AND A LOT OF THESE THINGS ARE LEVERAGE FOR PEOPLE DOING THEIR JOBS. KNOW IF YOU DON'T HAVE COMPUTERS THAT WORK, IF YOU DON'T YOU KNOW, UP TO DATE CURRICULUM OR WHATEVER THOSE ARE THOSE ARE THINGS THAT

IMPACT YOUR ABILITY TO DO TO DO JOBS. >> SO YOU CAN YOU SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THOSE THINGS AS

MUCH AS YOU CAN. BUT THERE IS A LIMIT TO HOW FAR YOU CAN GO WITH A NON-SALARY. >> THANKS.

AND JUST REAL QUICK THE SOME OF THE ESSER FUNDS THAT WE RECEIVED DURING THE COVID PANDEMIC. WHEN THEY RUN OUT THERE ARE SOME FISCAL CLIFFS THAT EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF INCLUDING THE 15 MINUTES FOR THE EXTENSION OF , THE SCHOOL DAY THAT HAS BEEN FUNDED WITH

THOSE SPECIFIC FUNDS AT THIS POINT IN TIME. >> AND WE KNOW THAT THIS IS IN ESSENCE ONE TIME MONEY AND IS NOT GOING TO BE CONTINUED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. SO LET ME ASK THE QUESTION CAN YOU CAN YOU PLEASE LET US KNOW HOW BIG THAT FISCAL CLIFF THAT THAT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF US IS AND WHAT YEAR THOSE FUNDS RUN OUT? THE THE CHALLENGE TO THE CLIFF COMES NEXT YEAR. THAT'S WHEN. SO IN THE CURRENT YEAR WE'RE GOOD. THE UPCOMING YEAR WE'RE GOOD FOR OUR FY 24 AND 4825 IS WHEN THE S DOLLARS HAVE TO UTILIZED BY SO WHEN WE'RE GOING INTO FY THE FY 25 BUDGET IS WHEN THOSE THE THINGS WE'RE DOING THAT ARE ONGOING IN NATURE AND WE WANT

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TO CONTINUE THOSE. THOSE ITEMS WILL HAVE TO PICK THOSE UP AND ABSORB IN THE GENERAL OPERATING FUND A SPECIFIC NUMBER I CAN'T GIVE YOU A I THINK I CAN GIVE YOU I GUESS WE COULD PROBABLY

ESTIMATE WHERE WE ARE. >> YEAH MID LIMIT ON WHAT WE TO GO ON WITH. >> YEAH WE WOULD START LET'S SAY WE'D START IT AT $40 MILLION AND WHAT WE'LL HAVE TO DO IS THIS THIS WILL START THIS SUMMER. WE WILL TAKE A LOOK WE WILL PUT THAT LIST TOGETHER AND INTERNALLY WILL START TO LOOK AT THOSE ITEMS AND DISCUSS WHICH ITEMS WE WANT TO BRING FORWARD TO THE NEXT YEAR AND WHICH ITEMS WE WANT TO SUNSET. SO SOME OF THAT WILL BE THAT BE IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET PROPOSALS TO SUNSET CERTAIN AND OTHER PROPOSALS TO ABSORB THINGS THE OPERATING BUDGET BUT IT'S

DEFINITELY WILL BE IT WILL A CHALLENGE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE NEXT YEAR. >> OKAY. SO

JUST SO I'M CLEAR WE'RE FACING A 30 TO $40 MILLION SHORTFALL AND IN OUR BUDGET YEAR 2025. >> MR. COHEN UNFORTUNATELY YOU'RE OF TIME RIGHT NOW. OKAY. BUT YOU CAN SUBMIT THAT QUESTION.

>> WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION. >> APPRECIATE IT. I JUST HAVE A CLARIFYING QUESTION SO I KNOW IT'S IN HERE .I JUST KEEP LOSING WHERE IT IS SO THE ESSER FUNDS WE HAVE ONE MORE YEAR OF THE ESSER, RIGHT? YES. SO WHAT IN THE BUDGET BOOK IS POINTING TO HOW

WE'RE USING THOSE ESSER FUNDS FOR YEAR THREE FOR NEXT YEAR? >> IF YOU LOOK IN SPECIAL REVENUE ESSER AND CRS HAVE THEIR OWN DEDICATED PAGE. OKAY IT'S UNDER SPECIAL SPECIAL REVENUE. SPECIAL REVENUE. SO IT'S A GRANT. SO IT HAS A PAGE .IT'S NOT IT DOESN'T DETAIL

EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF IT BUT IT GENERALLY DESCRIBES WHAT'S GOING. >> SO IS THE CURRENT VLP PROGRAM FUNDED WITH ESSER FUNDS THIS YEAR? YES, BUT THAT'S NOT INCLUDED OUR USE OF ESSER FUNDS

FOR THE UPCOMING SCHOOL YEAR. >> I THINK THAT'S BEING LOOKED AT. YEAH. SO THAT'S NOT IN HERE

NOW. >> I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER THE LP WAS INITIALLY TWO YEARS IN THE GRANT SO THERE'S T WAS TE SECOND YEAR OF THE LP SO THE THIRD SO THE USE OF ESSER FUNDS NEXT YEAR IS DISTRIBUTED OTHER WAYS BESIDES FOR THE VLP PROGRAM AS SIT RIGHT NOW HAVE A DISCUSSION. YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT I JUST FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. OKAY. ONE MORE TIME TO SEE IF ANYBODY HAS SECOND QUESTION, MR. MINSKY I'M OKAY. OKAY. BACK TO YOU, MS.. PUMPHREY THANK YOU, MR. HEART.

>> LOVE I JUST. JUST A COMMENT .YOU MENTIONED THAT IT'S EXPENSIVE TO TAKE CARE OF OUR PEOPLE MEANING ESSENTIALLY INCREASING SALARIES. THAT'S EXPENSIVE? IN MY OPINION WE CAN'T AFFORD NOT TO TAKE CARE OF OUR PEOPLE. WE'RE A CRISIS MODE RIGHT NOW AS FAR AS ACADEMIC ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT FOR OUR STUDENTS. AND SO I'LL JUST REITERATE WHAT WHAT MEMBER HARVEY SAID HER COMMENT IN THE MEETING THAT WE NEED TO FIND WAYS TO MAKE CUTS FROM THE OUTSIDE IN AND DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO RECRUIT AND RETAIN RETAIN HIGH QUALITY TEACHERS.

>> THANK YOU, MR. MCMILLIAN. NO ,THANK. OKAY. MS.. HARVEY I'M SORRY. MAHEN, DO YOU HAVE A LIST? ANOTHER QUESTION. JUST ONE QUICK ONE. THANK YOU HAVE WE BEGUN THE PROCESS OF HEARING OUR REQUESTS. I KNOW THAT SOMETHING THAT THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE HAS MENTIONED AT TIMES THAT HE REQUESTS OF ALL OF THE COUNTY AGENCIES TO SUBMIT THEIR REQUESTS AS TO YOUR. IS IS THAT AN ACTIVITY OR AND AN EXERCISE THAT WE'VE ASKED DEPARTMENT HEADS TO DO ON SOME MEETINGS THAT THE BOARD COULD RECEIVE ANY INFORMATION IF WE'RE LOOKING FOR THEM AND I AGREE WITH VICE CHAIR HARVEY AND WHAT MEMBER PUMPHREY SAID WE WE HAVE TALKED TEARING SALARIES TO OF SEE IT VARIOUS LEVELS OF REVENUE WHAT TYPE OF SALARY WE COULD WE COULD FIND IN THE BUDGET BUT AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL ITEMS IN THE BUDGET WE DON'T HAVE A PRIORITIZED LIST OF OF THAT AT BUT CERTAINLY THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IF THERE'S INPUT FROM THE BOARD WE CAN. WE DID THAT LAST YEAR THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS WE IT WAS A GENERAL KIND OF PRIORITIZATION OF PEOPLE AND AND SALARIES BUT CERTAINLY ANY TYPE OF PRIORITIZATION IS HELPFUL BECAUSE SUPER THE CEO ULTIMATELY CAN TAKE THAT WHEN HE WHEN HE'S MAKING HIS DECISIONS AND AND INFORM INFORM HIM AS AS WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE. RIGHT. AND CERTAINLY WE'VE RATHER MAKE THOSE DECISIONS INTERNALLY SO. YEP. OKAY. AND WE'D RATHER MAKE AN INTELLIGENT

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INFORMED DECISIONS WITH INPUTS FROM EACH DEPARTMENT HEAD. SO. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAD. THANK

YOU. THANK MADAM CHAIR. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. MR. ROSE. >> MS.. HARVEY, I DON'T HAVE ANY

FURTHER QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU ,MR. SAN. I WILL PASS. THANK YOU, MR. OFFERMAN. >> DR. SAVOY

SAVOY. >> DR. HAGER? NO, THANK .THANK YOU. AND MY MY LAST IS A COMMENT. I AGREE WITH WHAT MS. PUMPHREY AND, MS.. HARVEY SAID, BUT MY CONCERN IS BUILDING THE CAPACITY THE TEACHERS THAT WE'RE RECRUITING AND RETAINING. AND I HAVE TROUBLE FINDING THE BUDGET BOOK WHERE WE'RE PUTTING RESOURCES FORWARD FOR THAT PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT. SO I KNOW WHETHER IT'S RESOURCE OR BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE NOT ONLY GET THE TEACHERS BUT WE HELP THEM INCREASE THEIR CAPACITY. AND I'M NOT SEEING THAT DIRECTLY IN THE BUDGET BOOK AND I ALSO LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING OUR HANDWRITTEN ALL OF OUR HUNDREDS OF QUESTIONS. BUT GO AHEAD. MR.

NOYES. >> I WAS GOING TO SAY IS IT SO WHAT WE'LL DO AT THIS POINT IS IS WE WE HAVE A THAT MS.. HAND IS GOING TO GET US IN WRITING WILL TREAT THAT LIKE THE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED AND WE'LL WE'LL WE'LL DO OUR TO TRY TO GET THAT TURN AROUND QUICK. WE HAVE A ITEM ON OUR ON OUR LIST THE PRICE OUT WHICH WE WILL DO THAT AND WE WILL BRING THOSE THINGS BACK AT THE NEXT AT THE NEXT MEETING FOR FOR OUR VOTE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU VERY

MUCH. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU ALL. OKAY. OKAY. SO I DID NOT REFRESH BUT I THINK I CAN. OKAY

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.OKAY. SO NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS THE FOR THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA WAS ADDED THIS EVENING.

IT'S THE VIRTUAL LEARNING PROGRAM AND FOR THAT I CALL ON DR. YARBROUGH. >> THANK YOU.

CALL ON DR. BOSWELL. MCCOMAS DR. ELMENDORF FROM WAS FORBES TO COME FORWARD. THANK THANK THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WITH YOU THE HISTORY, CURRENT STATUS AND

PROPOSED FUTURE OF THE B.C. PEACE VIRTUAL LEARNING PROGRAM OR VLP. >> BALTIMORE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS HAS A LONG HISTORY OF PROVIDING VIRTUAL LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES STUDENTS AND SECONDARY SCHOOLS THROUGH E-LEARNING. LIAISE THE STATE OF MARYLAND WERE DIRECTED TO PROVIDE A SYSTEM WIDE VIRTUAL LEARNING PROGRAM TO MEET THE NEEDS OF FAMILIES IN RESPONSE TO THE COVID 19 PANDEMIC. SINCE 2021 WE HAVE KEPT THE BOARD OF EDUCATION AND THE BCP COMMUNITY REGULARLY UPDATED ABOUT THE VIRTUAL LEARNING PROGRAM QUARTERLY SYSTEM WIDE PRESENTATIONS ABOUT STUDENT ENROLLMENT ATTENDANCE AND PERFORMANCE TO DATE. ALL INFORMATION ITEMS AND QUARTERLY PRESENTATIONS REGARDING VLP HAVE BEEN MADE TO ENSURE THAT ALL PARTIES WERE APPRIZED OF THE SCOPE OF SERVICES AND STUDENT PROGRESS INCLUDING THE

ELIMINATION OF KINDERGARTEN LAST YEAR. >> THE PURPOSE OF TODAY'S PRESENTATION IS TO PROVIDE CRITICAL CONTEXT REGARDING THE FUTURE OF DLP AND TO OUTLINE NEXT STEPS TO MOVE

FORWARD IN SERVICE OF STUDENTS AND FAMILIES. >> AS WAS STATED SEVERAL TIMES THIS EVENING, THE VIRTUAL LEARNING PROGRAM WAS FUNDED IN 2021 WITH ONE TIME ESSER GRANT FUNDS. THE ORIGINAL PLANS FUNDED BOTH FOR A 22 AND FY 23. THIS AFFIRMED IN THE MSD AMENDMENT TO ESSER FUNDS APPLICATION THAT WAS SUBMITTED DURING THE 2122 SCHOOL YEAR. ALTHOUGH THE PROGRAM WAS SCHEDULED TO SUNSET IN FY 24 OPTIONS TO SUSTAIN SAFE AND SUPPORTIVE ENVIRONMENTS STUDENT SUPPORT FOR THOSE PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS ADMINISTRATIVE PLACEMENTS, STAFFING SHORTAGES AND FAMILY PREFERENCES POINTED TOWARDS THE NEED TO CONTINUE VIA LPI FOR

FOIA FOUR. >> MEMBERS OF CABINET REVIEWED DATA SYSTEM NEEDS AND POSSIBLE GRANT OPTIONS TO EXTEND THE VLP FOR AT LEAST AN ADDITIONAL YEAR. WE ALSO COLLABORATED WITH UNION PARTNERS TO DISCUSS A PROCESS FOR FY 24 THAT WOULD INCLUDE EARLY COMMUNICATION ALL

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IMPACTED STAFF BY THE CONTINUATION OF ORIGIN DEVELOP DECISIONS FOR NEXT STEPS AN ANALYSIS OF ALL LOCAL EDUCATION AGENCY VIRTUAL OFFERINGS FOR STUDENTS WHICH REVEALED THE FOLLOWING 21 VIRTUAL PROGRAMS OPERATED THIS SCHOOL YEAR INCLUDING BCP F OF THE 20 OTHER PROGRAMS THAT OPERATED EXCLUDING BCP F THE PROGRAMS VARIED IN SIZE FROM 14 STUDENTS

ENROLLED TO 2659 STUDENTS. >> 15 OF THE PROGRAMS HAVE AN ENROLLMENT OF FEWER THAN 500 STUDENTS AND FIVE PROGRAMS HAVE AN ENROLLMENT OF GREATER THAN 500 STUDENTS. EIGHT SCHOOL SYSTEMS TO DATE HAVE CONFIRMED THAT THEY WILL CONTINUE WITH A VIRTUAL PROGRAM IN SCHOOL YEAR 2324 ON THE SLIDE DEPICTED THE LARGEST SCHOOL SYSTEMS IN MARYLAND WHAT THEIR ENROLLMENT ARE AS WELL AS THE ENROLLMENT IN VIRTUAL. THE COST OF OUR CURRENT VLP PROGRAM IS $16,000,543 $543,621. THE PROPOSED COSTS FOR FY 24 WOULD BE 6.6 MILLION. STAFF AT ANALYZE ESSER FUNDING IDENTIFIED ADJUSTMENTS IN DIFFERENT AREAS AND WOULD BE ABLE TO SUBMIT AN AMENDMENT TO THE GRANT APPLICATION TO COVER THE OF THE PROPOSED VLP USING THE FINAL YEAR OF ESSER FUNDS. THE FEDERAL GRANT USED TO FUND THE VLP WILL BE IN ITS FINAL YEAR THIS UPCOMING. AS SUCH IT IS PROPOSED THAT THE VLP WILL BE IN SIZE AND SERVE STUDENTS IN GRADES FOUR THROUGH 12. THIS RECOMMENDATION ALIGNS WITH OTHER PROGRAMS IN THE STATE AND AN ANALYSIS OF MOST PRESSING NEEDS BEING SUCCESSFULLY MET FOR STUDENTS IN THE CURRENT VLP. THIS REDUCTION IN SIZE WOULD ALLOW FOR ESSER FUNDS TO BE USED THIS UPCOMING YEAR AND PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRANSITION TO THE OPERATING BUDGET OR SOURCE OF FUNDING FOR FY 25 AND BEYOND .WE ACKNOWLEDGE VLP IS A PROGRAM THAT MANY FAMILIES HAVE FOUND TO BE USEFUL. WE ARE COMMITTED TO CONTINUING IT IN SOME FORM. HOWEVER, MAINTAINING THE CURRENT LEVEL OF VLP IN LIGHT OF THE PROJECTED ELIMINATION OF ESSER GRANT GRANT FUNDS THE UNCERTAIN FISCAL LANDSCAPE AND COMPETING OF FUNDING COMPENSATION TO RECRUIT AND A HIGH QUALITY WORKFORCE IT IS NECESSARY FOR US TO PRIORITIZE THE GREATEST AREA OF NEED FOR VLP ACROSS SCHOOLS AND PURSUE REDUCTIONS. AT THIS TIME TURN IT OVER TO CHIEF ACADEMIC OFFICER DR. MCCOMAS. DR. AND MS. FORBES SO THANK GOOD EVENING AND HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY. I'M JOINED THIS EVENING DR. ELMENDORF OVERSEES VLP AND MS. FORBES IS THE DIRECTOR OF THE PROGRAM. AT THIS TIME I WILL HAVE DR. PICK UP THE PRESENTATION AND THEN WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THE END. ALL RIGHT .THANK YOU, DR. MCCOMAS. IN THE SPRING OF 2021, BEEKEEPERS DECIDED TO UTILIZE FEDERAL GRANT FUNDS THREE AS WE'VE DISCUSSED TONIGHT TO CREATE AND IMPLEMENT A FULL TIME K-THROUGH-12 VIRTUAL LEARNING PROGRAM WHICH WE LIKE TO CALL THE VLP AND THAT WAS FOR THE 2122 SCHOOL YEAR. THE VLP WAS INTENDED AS A ONE YEAR PROGRAM DESIGNED AS A FINAL SUPPORT FOR STUDENTS RESPONSE TO THE COVID 19 GLOBAL PANDEMIC AS DIRECTED THE MARYLAND STATE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION. THE INTENT WAS TO PROVIDE A SUPPLEMENTAL VIRTUAL PROGRAM FOR STUDENTS UNTIL VACCINATIONS WERE AVAILABLE AND ACCESSIBLE TO ALL STUDENTS AND CAREGIVERS WERE CONFIDENT IN RETURNING THEIR CHILDREN IN-PERSON LEARNING. THE PROGRAM ALLOWED FOR STUDENTS TO BE CO WITH A VLP AND THEIR PRIMARY SCHOOL OF INTENDED ATTENDANCE IN ORDER TO ALLOW FOR PARTICIPATION IN SPORTS AND EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES AMONG OTHER SCHOOL BASED SERVICES. THE PLAN ALONG WITH THE PROCESS FOR CONTROLLING OUR STUDENTS AND VLP WAS COMMUNICATED TO FAMILIES IN THE SPRING OF 2021. DURING 2021 MORE THAN 3700 STUDENTS WERE ENROLLED WITH THE VLP. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THE PROGRAM NOW IN ITS SECOND YEAR OF OPERATION HAS DEMONSTRATED ACADEMIC

GROWTH. >> WELL WHO HAS SHARED IN BOARD OF EDUCATION PRESENTATIONS AND HAS EVOLVED TO MEET UNIQUE NEEDS OF STUDENTS WHO REQUIRE OR WOULD BENEFIT FROM A LEARNING ENVIRONMENT DIFFERENT FROM THAT OF THE BRICK AND MORTAR SCHOOLS TO WHICH THEY ARE TRADITIONALLY

.>> ONGOING PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT SPECIFIC ONLINE TEACHING AND LEARNING ALONG WITH THE ADDITION OF SUPPORT STAFF INCLUDING P.W. A SOCIAL WORKER, SCHOOL PSYCHOLOGIST, SCHOOL PSYCHOLOGIST AND DEPARTMENT CHAIRS HAVE ALL CONTRIBUTED THE IMPRESSIVE PROGRESS MADE FROM YEAR ONE THIS YEAR VLP IS FULLY STAFFED AND SERVES 1113 FULL TIME

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STUDENTS IN GRADES ONE THROUGH 12. THE AND HIGH SCHOOL PROGRAMS ALSO SERVE 517 PART TIME STUDENTS ARE ACCESSING HIGH QUALITY VIRTUAL INSTRUCTION AS A SOLUTION TO PERSISTENT TEACHER VACANCIES AT SEVERAL SCHOOLS. THE TOTAL ENROLLMENT THE 20 2023 SCHOOL YEAR IS CURRENTLY 1630. I WOULD LOVE TO INTRODUCE THE DIRECTOR OF THE VIRTUAL LEARNING PROGRAM WHO IS GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU SOME OF THE PANDEMIC. THANK YOU AND GOOD EVENING. THIS SLIDE DEPICTS THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF STUDENTS ENROLLED IN THE DLP FROM GRADES THROUGH 12 PART TIME AND FULL TIME FOR ALL REASONS INCLUDING ADDRESSING STAFFING SHORTAGES IN SECONDARY SCHOOLS IN MATH AND WORLD LANGUAGE COURSES. 59.4% OF STUDENTS IN THE VLP ARE BLACK AFRICAN 20% WHITE 6.3% ASIAN 5.1% TWO OR MORE RACES ETHNICITIES AND 5.1% HISPANIC LATINO AS OF SEPTEMBER 30TH 2022 3.6% OF THE STUDENTS IN THE VLP ARE ENGLISH LEARNERS 60.3% QUALIFY FOR FREE AND REDUCED MEALS. 11.7% ARE STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES WHO QUALIFY FOR AN IEP AND 6.8% OF STUDENTS QUALIFY A504 PLAN. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE AND I WILL HAND IT BACK TO DR. ELMENDORF. THANK YOU. SO THE PROGRAM AS WE ARE PROPOSING IT WOULD WILL CONTINUE TO BE UTILIZED TO PROVIDE STAFFING RELIEF TO SCHOOLS TO ACCOMMODATE STUDENT PLACEMENT DECISIONS. STUDENTS WHO ARE CURRENTLY IN VLP WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE CONSIDERED FOR A SEAT IN THE 2324 SCHOOL YEAR. BY APPLYING FOR A LOTTERY WHICH I WILL DESCRIBE IN A MOMENT FOR STUDENTS WHO TRANSITIONED BACK TO THEIR SCHOOLS OF PRIMARY ENROLLMENT WE WOULD ENSURE THAT THEY ARE SUPPORTED IN THIS PROCESS BY HAVING VLP STAFF WORK TO HELP WITH ARTICULATION INFORMATION AT THE WITH THE STAFF AT EACH CHILD'S SCHOOL AND ENROLLMENT TO SCHEDULE THEIR CLASSES AND RELATED SERVICES. SO AS FAR AS THE BREAKDOWN IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING AS FAR AS ENROLLMENT GOES FOR THE 2324 SCHOOL YEAR SO ELEMENTARY GRADES FOUR AND FIVE WE WOULD EACH LEVEL WOULD HAVE 40% LOTTERY SEATS. SO 18 LOTTERY SEATS FOR ELEMENTARY GRADES FOUR AND FIVE WITH 26 SEATS FOR PLACEMENT GOING FOR 44 TOTAL SEATS IN GRADES FOUR AND FIVE FOR MIDDLE SCHOOL. 40% OF 244 SEATS WOULD BE 98 LOTTERY SEATS AND 146 SEATS OPEN FOR PLACEMENTS. AND AT THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL, 40% OF 407 WHICH IS 163 LOTTERY SEATS AND 244 PLACEMENT SEATS FOR A TOTAL OF 279 LOTTERY SEATS AND 416 PLACEMENTS SEATS FOR A TOTAL VIP ENROLLMENT OF 695. JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT THE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE THE POSSIBILITY OF APPROVED SPECIAL PERMISSION TRANSFERS FOR MEDICAL EXCEPTIONS IF THOSE COME ABOUT THIS TIME WE'LL TAKE ANY

QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I THAT WAS

SHORT NOTICE FOR PUTTING THAT TOGETHER FOR US BUT IT'S APPRECIATED. >> MR. MCMILLIAN JUST CURIOUS DO YOU HAVE A SLIDE OF THAT LAST PORTION THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT THE LOTTERY

SEATS FOR THE FOURTH AND FIFTH AND THAT DO YOU HAVE THAT OUT THERE ON SLIDE? >> IT'S NOT ON

THE SLIDE, MR. MCMILLIAN OKAY. >> THANK YOU. IT'S SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE. MR. MCMILLIAN

40% OF EACH EACH LEVEL ARE LOTTERY SEATS. >> OTHER QUESTIONS? YES. YES. MISS JONES

,I HAVE A DR. SAVOY. >> I'M SORRY. OKAY. >> YES. CAN THE PROGRAM ADEQUATELY THE NEEDS

OF THE IEP STUDENT AND HOW ARE THESE STUDENTS SUPPORTED? >> MS.. MS. WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT? SURE. THANK YOU. YES. WE ARE STAFFED WITH SPECIAL EDUCATORS AND IEP CHAIRS EVERY TIME A STUDENT IS PLACED IN THE VLP THAT IEP TEAM MEETS LOOKS AT THAT STUDENT'S INDIVIDUAL NEEDS AND DETERMINES THEIR FATE CAN BE MET IN THE VLP. AND THEN WE CONNECT STUDENTS WITH OTHER THAT WE HAVE IN THE PROGRAM BASED ON THE UNIQUE NEEDS OF THOSE OF THAT STUDENT. AND AGAIN JUST TO REFERENCE THE PREVIOUS SLIDE AS OF THE SEPTEMBER 30TH ENROLLMENT 11.7% OF STUDENTS IN THE VLP DO HAVE AN IEP AND RECEIVE SUPPORT ALIGNED TO THAT

IEP. >> OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MISHAN THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. SO DO WE KNOW HOW MANY STUDENTS BY GRADE WILL BE AFFECTED? IN OTHER WORDS WILL NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A LOTTERY SEAT ASSUMING THAT THEY WON'T RECEIVE SPECIAL PLACEMENT? HOW MANY WILL THIS

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AFFECT? I HEARD YOU SAY THERE'S NO SLIDE ON THIS BUT CAN YOU READ US NUMBERS ENROLLMENT? DR.

MCCOMAS THE MOMENT MS. WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR CALCULATIONS SURE WE'RE DR.

MCALESTER ACCURATELY FOR YOU. SO CURRENTLY FOR EXAMPLE IN GRADES FOUR WE HAVE 85 STUDENTS AND SOME GOOD LUCK IN THIS FORBES ANSWER THIS BECAUSE THIS IS HARD ON THAT PARTICULAR

INFORMATION. >> OKAY. SO IF WE WERE LOOKING MOVING FORWARD WITH THE CURRENT STUDENTS WHO ARE ENROLLED SO WE WOULD BASE OUR ENROLLMENT UPON THE PRIOR YEAR FROM THIS YEAR MOVING AHEAD SO FOR EXAMPLE YOUR THIRD GRADERS MOVE TO FOURTH GRADE. SO ASSUMING EVERY STUDENT WANTED TO RETAIN THAT SEAT. CURRENTLY WE HAVE 47 STUDENTS ENROLLED RIGHT NOW IN FIRST GRADE WHO WOULD BE MOVING TO SECOND. 50 MOVING TO THIRD. 79 MOVING TO FOURTH GRADE. 85 MOVING TO FIFTH GRADE. AND SHELLEY CONTINUE INTO THE SECONDARY GRADE LEVELS. OKAY.

SO 85 AND SIXTH GRADE 86 IN GRADE SEVEN. 142 IN GRADE EIGHT .AND THEN MOVING TO THE HIGH SCHOOL GRADE 135 IN GRADE 984 IN GRADE TEN 111 IN GRADE 11 AND 107 FOR GRADE 12. SO FOR A TOTAL OF THE EXISTING TIME ENROLLMENT WHICH IS 1011 STUDENTS AS CURRENT. SO I THINK MS. HENNE YOUR QUESTION WAS HOW MANY STUDENTS THEN WOULD HAVE TO POSSIBLY RETURN TO THEIR SCHOOL OF CO ENROLLMENT. AND SO WE SAID IT WAS APPROXIMATELY 40% AT EACH GRADE LEVEL THAT 40

40% WOULD NEED TO RETURN OR WERE RESERVING SEATS FOR 40%. >> IF I MAY. >> YES. SO WHAT I WOULD ASK THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO IS TO ANALYZE THE NUMBERS BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON OF THE STUDENTS THAT MS.. FORBES JUST IDENTIFIED COULD VERY WELL THERE FOR A PLACEMENT OR THEY COULD BE THERE FOR MEDICAL EXCEPTION. IN THOSE CASES THEY WOULD NOT BE TAKING A LOTTERY SEAT. SO IF GIVEN THE TIME TO DO THAT, WE CAN GIVE YOU CLEAR NUMBERS IN TERMS OF THE POTENTIAL IMPACT OF NUMBER OF STUDENTS FAMILIES COMPETING FOR THOSE LOTTERY SEATS. THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. THANK YOU. AND MY FOLLOW QUESTION IS COULD YOU BRIEFLY DESCRIBE THE COSTS AND AND IS IT CORRECT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AN ADDITIONAL 10 MILLION OVER WHAT IS CURRENTLY BUDGETED? WE IF THE BOARD WANTED TO CONTINUE

VLP NEXT AT ITS CURRENT ENROLLMENT. >> YEAH THANK YOU MS. AND SO I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE FIRST SLIDE WE'RE SAYING THAT THE THE PROPOSAL THAT WE HAVE HERE TODAY WOULD BE THE 6 MILLION IF WE WERE TO CONTINUE THE VA IN ITS CURRENT FORMAT WITH THE SIZE THAT IT IS NOW IT WOULD BE THE 16 MILLION. AND AS FAR AS WHAT THE FUNDING GOES TOWARD, IT'S ALMOST ALL FTE

WITH THE EXCEPTION OF SOME MONEY FOR SUPPLIES FOR STUDENTS WHICH IS LESS THAN $100,000. >> SO THESE FTE SO THOSE FTE WOULD NOT WE'RE SHIFTING THOSE COSTS BECAUSE PRESUMABLY THEY WOULD

BE RETURNING TO BRICK AND MORTAR. >> CORRECT. CORRECT. MS. HARVEY, DO YOU HAVE A

QUESTION? >> YES, JUST A CLARIFICATION FOR THE STUDENTS WHO HAVE IEPS. IS THEIR ADMISSION INTO THE VOLPE PROGRAM BASED ON YOUR ABILITY TO SERVE OR MEET THE CONDITIONS OF THEIR IEP. AND DOES THAT MEAN THAT ALL OF THAT IS HAPPENING FOR THESE STUDENTS? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION MS. HARVEY THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. SO THE DECISION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT STUDENT CAN OR SHOULD BE IN THE VIRTUAL LEARNING PROGRAM IS EXCLUSIVELY WITH VOLPE LPI OR WITH THAT IEP TEAM RATHER. AND SO SOMETIMES THE AP TEAMS ARE HELD VIRTUALLY IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING WHETHER IT BE OUT OF THE SCHOOL AP TEAM OR TO BE THE VOLPE IEP TEAM. SOMETIMES THEY'RE HELD VIRTUALLY EITHER WAY BUT THE TEAM ITSELF IS EXCLUSIVE OF THE DECISION MAKING BODY AS FAR AS WHETHER THE WHETHER FACE CAN BE MET IN THE VIRTUAL LEARNING PROGRAM AND DOES THAT MEAN THAT ALL OF THEIR SERVICES OR THE CONDITIONS OF THEIR IEP ARE MET

VIRTUALLY? >> OH I SEE. YES. YEAH. SO ANYBODY WHO IS IN THE VIRTUAL LEARNING PROGRAM THEY ALL THEIR SERVICES ARE MET VIRTUALLY WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE SPECIAL EDUCATORS AND AND SUCH THAT CAN MEET THE NEEDS OF THEIR IP ON THE FOR THE STUDENTS BECAUSE THE STUDENTS

ARE 100% VIRTUAL SO THEIR NEEDS ARE VIRTUALLY YES. >> I JUST WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT

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QUESTION. WHAT DID THE PART TIME STUDIES MEAN? ONE OF THE SLIDES ED SAID FOR HOW MANY

FULL TIME HAVE A PART TIME. SO WHAT PART TIME STATUS? >> SO THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. THE PART TIME STUDENTS ARE THOSE ARE IN THE VIP AS A RESULT OF THE STAFFING RELIEF. SO THERE MIGHT BE A STUDENT IN A HIGH SCHOOL FOR EXAMPLE WHO SPENDS MOST THE DAY AT THE SCHOOL TAKING CLASSES AT SCHOOL BUT GOES TO VIP FOR MATH SO THEY MIGHT BE IN THE LIBRARY

WITH AN ADULT SUPERVISION. >> THEY'RE TAKING JUST A MATH CLASS WITH THE VIRTUAL LEARNING PROGRAM. THANKS DR. HAGER YES. THANK YOU. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS AND THE FIRST ONE I MAY HAVE BEEN ANSWERED I WAS I APOLOGIZE. I WASN'T FOLLOWING AT ONE POINT THAT THE PER PUPIL

COST OF THE DLP VERSUS A BRICK AND MORTAR BUILDING. CAN YOU COMMENT ON THAT DR. HAGER? >>

WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION .>> WE COULD PULL IT FOR YOU. I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY RELEVANT TO THE CONVERSATION TO UNDERSTAND KIND OF IS THIS A MORE EXPENSIVE INVESTMENT PER STUDENT COMPARED THE REST OF THE IN-PERSON SCHOOLING? THE SECOND QUESTION IS LPA. I KNOW I THINK I'VE ASKED THIS BEFORE IT'S DIFFERENT THAN HOME AND HOSPITAL SO CHILDREN WITH AN ILLNESS OR AN INJURY OR OR CAN'T ATTEND IN PERSON AT SCHOOL BECAUSE OF A DISABILITY .THIS IS NOT THE PROGRAM THAT THEY WOULD ATTEND, CORRECT? FOR THE MOST PART THAT IS CORRECT THAT THERE ARE SOME EXCEPTIONS IF A STUDENT IS IN HOME AND HOSPITAL BECAUSE OF VIRTUE OF THEIR THEIR NEEDS, THEIR MEDICAL NEEDS. THERE ARE TIMES WHEN A WHO IS IN HER OWN HOSPITAL CAN ACCESS THE VIRTUAL LEARNING PROGRAM SERVICES AS A RESULT OF BEING AT HOME IN A

HOSPITAL. IT'S VERY, VERY FEW STUDENTS LESS THAN TEN THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THAT SITUATION. >> OKAY. SO IT IS ACTUALLY PROGRAM WHY DO WE HAVE TWO STUDENTS WHO ARE IN HOME AND HOSPITAL AND ACCESSING VIP SERVICES IF I MAY ,DR. HAGER, TO YOUR POINT, OFTENTIMES STUDENTS WHO ARE IN-HOME HOSPITAL, THEIR MEDICAL CONDITION IS IS REALLY WHAT DRIVES THEIR ABILITY TO ENGAGE IN ACADEMIC LEARNING AND SO THEY MAY BE UNDERGOING SOME KIND OF TREATMENT WHERE THEIR ABILITY TO ENGAGE IN LEARNING MAY BE, YOU KNOW, VERY LIMITED A DAILY BASIS WHILE THEY ARE IN TREATMENT. BUT AS THEY RECOVER THEY MAY BE ABLE TO ACCESS SO THAT'S WHY THE HOME AND HOSPITAL PROGRAM IS MUCH MORE FLEXIBLE AND CUSTOMIZED BASED ON THE STUDENT MEDICAL NEEDS.

BUT TO DR. ELMENDORF POINT WHERE DLP IS ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT WE TO OPTIMIZE ACROSS THE

PROGRAMS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF SERVICE. >> THANK YOU .GREAT. THANK YOU. AND MY NEXT QUESTION IS I RECALL THAT IT'S AT THE STUDENT WASN'T DOING WELL ACADEMICALLY IN THE DLP THEN THEY WERE ASKED TO RETURN TO A BRICK AND MORTAR SCHOOL.

IS THAT STILL THE CASE? I JUST I WONDER IF THE UPTICK IN ACADEMIC PERFORMANCE MAYBE DUE

TO ELIMINATING THE STUDENTS WHO WEREN'T EXCELLING IN THE VA SETTING THAT. >> THANK YOU.

WELL, I WOULD AGREE, DR. HAGER ,IN THAT AT THE END OF LAST YEAR WE SAT AND HAD INVOLVED CONVERSATIONS WITH FAMILIES TO DISCUSS IS THE VLP MEETING THE NEEDS OF THEIR STUDENTS AND ARE STUDENTS BEING SUCCESSFUL IN THAT PROGRAM AND IF THEY WERE NOT BEING SUCCESSFUL WE RECOMMENDED THAT PARENTS RETURN THEIR STUDENT TO THE BRICK AND MORTAR WHERE IN-PERSON INSTRUCTION AND ALL THE IN-PERSON RESOURCES COULD BE TO THOSE STUDENTS. SO YOU'RE RIGHT, WE WE DID NOT SUSTAIN STUDENTS THAT IT WAS NOT A GOOD MATCH FOR THEIR LEARNING KNOW THAT THIS IS A PARTICULAR FORMAT OF DELIVERY FOR INSTRUCTION THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY A MATCH FOR EVERY LEARNER. AND THAT WAS DONE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH PARENTS AS WE WE TALKED HAD INVOLVED CONVERSATIONS AROUND HOW BEST TO SERVE THEIR STUDENTS AND IF THEIR WERE NOT BEING SUCCESSFUL THEN IT WAS NOT IN A STUDENT'S BEST INTEREST KEEP THEM THERE.

SO CERTAINLY THERE IS A CORRELATION. WE WE SAY THAT THE STUDENTS THIS YEAR AND YOU HAVE SEEN THE ACADEMIC IMPROVEMENT THERE IS DEFINITELY A CORRELATION THAT WE'RE IDENTIFYING A POPULATION AND THAT THIS MODEL OF INSTRUCTIONAL DELIVERY IS IS BEING SUCCESSFUL FOR. AND I'LL TURN TO DR. ELMENDORF IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING AT THAT'S

ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. >> DR. MCCOMAS AND I WOULD JUST ADD THAT THE ACADEMIC PROGRESS THAT WE'RE SHARING WITH YOU INCLUDES ANY STUDENT AND ALL STUDENTS WHO HAVE ALSO BEEN ADMINISTRATIVELY PLACED ARE REPLACED BY STUDENT CONDUCT HEARING OFFICER AND TO THE VIRTUAL LEARNING PROGRAM. SO IT ISN'T THE STUDENTS WHO SUCCEEDED LAST YEAR

ACADEMICALLY AND THINK OKAY. >> SO THERE ARE STUDENTS WHO ARE SUSPENDED OR EXPELLED FROM SCHOOL WHO ATTEND THE BULK, CORRECT? THAT'S GOOD. OKAY. AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS YOU MENTIONED USING ESSER FUNDS NEXT YEAR. I FROM WHAT I RECALL THE BOARD OF ED DID NOT NECESSARILY PASS A MOTION ON HOW THE ASR FUNDS WERE USED. SO IS THIS JUST INFORMATION

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SHARING OR DO WE APPROVE SOMETHING AND THEN THE FUNDS ARE NOT USED FOR THE DLP? WOULD

IT GO BACK INTO THE GENERAL BUDGET THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING EARLIER TONIGHT? >> SO I WE HAVE BROUGHT THIS FORWARD FOR DISCUSSION TO ENSURE THAT OUR AS BOARD MEMBERS EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHERE WE ARE WITH THE VLP AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR NEXT YEAR. IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT IF THESE ESSER FUNDS DO NOT THEY ARE GRANT FUNDS SO THEY DON'T GO INTO THE OPERATING BUDGET AS SUCH THEY REMAIN THE GRANT FUNDS WHICH ARE SPECIAL REVENUE THAT. AGAIN THE GRANT COULD BE ALLOCATED IN OTHER WAYS BECAUSE WE ORIGINALLY DID NOT INTEND FOR THE VIRTUAL LEARNING PROGRAM TO EXTEND INTO THE THIRD YEAR OF THE GRANT. BUT AS YOU RECALL BACK IN SPRING OF 21 THERE WAS MANY UNKNOWNS ABOUT THE VIRTUAL PROGRAM AS WE WERE AT IN THOSE EARLY STAGES THE PANDEMIC STILL WORKING TOWARDS VACCINATIONS BEING AVAILABLE.

SO JUST TO REITERATE THESE FUNDS IF THEY WEREN'T USED FOR VLP THEY REMAIN IN THE ESSER GRANT FUNDS WHICH MR. HART LOVE EXPLAINED EXTEND THROUGH NEXT SCHOOL AND THE FEDERAL GRANT THE END DATE OF THE GRANT IS SEPTEMBER 30TH OF 2024. SO AGAIN IT REALLY JUST PROVIDES

US ONE MORE ACADEMIC YEAR. >> THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS. I CAN'T REMEMBER. SO THE FIRST ONE BEING YOU SAID THE STUDENTS ARE CO ENROLLED.

SO ARE THEY INCLUDED IN STAFFING IN THE BRICK AND MORTAR SCHOOL? >> YES. SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THE BENEFIT THE TWO YEARS OF THE PROGRAM ARE STAFFING WERE CREATED AND SUSTAINED THROUGH ESSER GRANTS. SO OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS NO STAFFING WAS TAKEN FROM ANY SCHOOL TO STAND UP THE DLP AND LIKEWISE THE STAFFING THAT WE ARE PROPOSING NEXT YEAR ARE NOT PART OF SCHOOL STAFFING. SO WE HAVE A THOUSAND STUDENTS THAT WE HAVE TAKEN FROM BRICK AND MORTAR SCHOOL, A THOUSAND PLUS STUDENTS THAT WE HAVE TAKEN FROM BRICK AND MORTAR SCHOOLS BUT WE HAVE NOT TAKEN ANY FACULTY AND STAFF OR ANY BUDGET FROM ANY SCHOOL. THE ENTIRE PROGRAM HAS BEEN FUNDED IN FULL THROUGH. THE ESSER GRANT. SO IN ESSENCE THESE STUDENTS ARE COUNTED IN THEIR BRICK AND MORTAR SCHOOL FOR STAFFING AND COUNTED THE FEE HELP FOR STAFFING. YES BECAUSE GRANT IS SUPPLEMENTAL SO IT'S THE EXTRA .RIGHT. SO IF THERE'S WHAT YOU SAY 1100 KIDS CURRENTLY AND IF WE DIVIDE BY 25 STUDENTS IN A CLASS THAT'S OVER 40 OF T'S THAT ARE IN DOUBLE. OKAY. THE OTHER QUESTION IS WERE PARENTS TOLD AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SCHOOL YEAR THAT THIS IS THE YEAR FOR THE VIRTUAL LEARNING PROGRAM? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. THANK YOU, MISS THERE .SO WE SPECIFICALLY DID NOT SHARE WITH PARENTS WHAT THE PLAN WAS I GUESS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS EITHER NECESSARILY. HOWEVER, WE HAVE ALWAYS SHARED WITH OUR FAMILIES THAT THE VIP IS GRANT FUNDED AND IS WAS DESIGNED BE TEMPORARY. IN FACT WE SHARED WITH THEM THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS SHARED IN THE APPLICATION TO THE MARYLAND STATE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION WHICH I READ SOME OF TONIGHT AS FAR WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THE VIRTUAL LEARNING PROGRAM WAS ORIGINALLY BUT, IT SEEMS TO HAVE MORPHED INTO SERVING MULTIPLE PURPOSES BEYOND THE NEEDS FOR FURTHER PANDEMIC. SO YOU'RE USING IT FOR PLACEMENTS, MEDICAL PLACEMENTS AND STAFFING WHICH ARE ALL AND BEYOND THE ORIGINAL INTENT. WHEN WE WERE IN COVID. CORRECT. THAT'S ACCURATE. OKAY .MR. MCMILLIAN, I JUST WANT TO STATE THAT ALL I'VE BEEN A SUPPORTER OF THE DLP AND TAUGHT SCHOOL FOR 35 YEARS THE

TRADITIONAL BUILDING WITH ITS TRADITIONAL CLASSROOMS AND MOVEMENT THE HALLWAYS. >> IT'S NOT GEARED FOR EVERY KID AND THERE'S SOME KIDS THAT FIND SUCCESS IN THIS VALLEY THAT DON'T FIND IT A CLASSROOM AND A TRADITIONAL CLASSROOM. AND I'M ADVOCATE FOR TO KEEP PROVIDING A SERVICE FOR THESE KIDS BECAUSE SOME OF THEM THRIVE AND I'M TALKING TO THE CHOIR I KNOW THAT THEY THRIVE IN THAT SETTING BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE NONSENSE THAT GOES ON IN THE SCHOOL BUILDINGS AND THEY WHETHER THEY'RE IN THEIR ROOM OR WHERE THEY ARE IN THEIR HOME AND THEY'RE DOING THEIR LEARNING ON THAT COMPUTER OR SCREEN INTERACTING THAT WAY AND THEY SOME THEY LOVE IT AND YOU'VE GOT THE NUMBERS TO SHOW THAT. I THINK WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT SOME WAY TO CONTINUE THIS NOW HAS IT HAS IT HAS IT BRANCHED OFF AND TAKEN IN SOME OTHER KIDS BUT THERE'S KIDS OUT THERE THAT NEED THIS PROGRAM TO SUCCEED AND IF WE TAKE IT AWAY FROM THEM NOW AND WE PUT THEM BACK IN THE TRADITIONAL CLASSROOM NOW THAT THEY'VE HAD

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THIS OPPORTUNITY, I'M NOT BETTING THEY'RE GOING TO SUCCEED. AND YOU KNOW, GOING

BACK A TRADITIONAL SETTING. >> THANK YOU. I AGREE WITH MR. MCMILLIAN AND I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE VIRTUAL LEARNING PROGRAM AS IMPLEMENTED DURING THE CURRENT SCHOOL YEAR FOR GRADES 2 TO 12 ALLOWING NO NEW STUDENTS OTHER THAN ADMINISTRATIVE AND MEDICAL PLACEMENTS UNDERSTANDING THAT THE 2324 SCHOOL YEAR WILL BE THE FINAL YEAR OF THE EXISTING PROGRAM. STAFF WILL WORK TO FORM A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROPOSING THE USE OF VIRTUAL

LEARNING ALONG WITH E-LEARNING THE 2425 SCHOOL YEAR. >> MISHAN SO I THINK THE DISCUSSION IS BASED ON EXACTLY WHAT MR. MCMILLIAN SAID THIS SERVING A PURPOSE BEYOND WHAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED FOR DOING EMERGENCY SITUATION. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE TIMING ESPECIALLY FAMILIES. THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION DID THEY KNOW PREVIOUS SO WE WOULD BE TELLING THEM PRETTY LATE. AS FAR AS FAMILIES THAT MAY TO LOOK FOR ALTERNATIVE SCHOOL SITUATIONS FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR THEY'VE MISSED THAT TIMELINE. SO I'M CONCERNED.

WE'VE HEARD FROM MANY PARENTS AND STAFF ABOUT THE SUCCESSES THAT THEIR STUDENTS ARE EXPERIENCING IN VIRTUAL LEARNING. SO I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE ENDING OF IT RIGHT NOW. BUT IT WOULD BE THEY WOULD BE INFORMED THAT THE EXISTING PROGRAM WOULD NOT LOOK THE SAME FOR THE 2425. WE HAVE A ROBUST AND SUCCESSFUL E-LEARNING. TO ME THIS COULD BE A FORM OF THAT AND GIVEN TIME STAFF WOULD COME UP WITH THE PROPOSAL THAT WE CAN THAT WE CAN THEN LISTEN TO. YES I WILL PUT IT IN I HAVE IT READY TO PUT IN THERE ANY OTHER

DISCUSSION. >> I THOUGHT IT DID .>> YES. MS.. DR. HAGER, I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT YOUR MOTION IS BASED ON THE PROPOSAL JUST SAW SO THAT IT WOULD BE THE FUNDING WOULD COME FROM THE

ESSER GRANT AS DESCRIBED IN THE PRESENTATION. >> WELL, THE PROPOSAL THAT WAS PRESCRIBED IS THE PROGRAM DRASTICALLY SO THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT I HEARD IN YOUR MOTION. SO YOU'RE YOU'RE PROPOSING TO SUSTAIN IT WITH FUNDING THAT WOULD COME FROM WHERE? WELL I WAS GOING TO SAY THIS THAT USING ESSER GRANT FUNDS THAT'S WHY IT ASKED PREVIOUSLY DURING

THE WORK SESSION IF THE FUNDS WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR A YEAR THREE. >> CHAIR LICHTER YES. >> YARBROUGH IF I COULD RESPOND TO THAT. THE $6 MILLION COSTS BECAUSE THE VIRTUAL LEARNING PROGRAM WAS SCHEDULED TO SUNSET THIS YEAR. STAFF WERE ABLE TO GO BACK AND TAKE LOOK AT ALL OF THE OTHER FUNDING WHAT'S BEEN USED, WHAT'S UNUSED AND CAME UP WITH THE $6 MILLION SO THERE WOULD BE I THINK IT'S SIX AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS AVAILABLE TO FUND THE VLP OF ESSER FUNDS FOR THIS UPCOMING YEAR BUT THERE WOULDN'T BE THAT DISCREPANCY BETWEEN THE SIX AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS IN THE CURRENT OPERATING COST OF 16 AND A HALF

MILLION. >> SO THAT'S WHY I INQUIRED WHERE THE OTHER THE REST OF THE ESSER FUNDS WERE BEING USED FOR IN THE UPCOMING SCHOOL YEAR OR IS THAT THERE'S ONLY 6 MILLION LEFT IN ESSER IT'S NOT BEING USED FOR THERE'S MORE THAN 6 MILLION LEFT IN ESSER THE DETAILED LIST OF ESSER IT'S AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE. IT'S A VARIETY THINGS COMPENSATORY SERVICES 15 MINUTES A DAY FOR SCHOOL YOU HAVE SOME YOU KNOW THERE'S A LONG LIST OF THINGS THAT INCLUDING SOME FTE IN LIKE IEP FACILITATORS AS WELL AS SOME CLASSROOM TEACHERS AND STAFF DEVELOPMENT TEACHERS ARE SOME OF THAT COME TO MIND BUT THERE AN EXTENSIVE LIST THAT CAN BE

PROVIDED OTHER I'M TRYING TO WRITE AND CONDUCT THE SAME TIME OTHER COMMENTS THIS. >> OKAY I THINK I'M OF JUST GOING ALONG WITH WHAT YOU WERE SAYING THAT THIS MONEY THAT KEEP FUNDING IT FOR ANOTHER YEAR IS COMING FROM GRANT FUNDS FULLY. OR ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO FIND THE MONEY

TO BACK IT UP AS MY ONLY CONCERN? >> YES. SO I'LL JUST COMMENT THIS TIME AND ASK YOU THAT ESSENTIALLY AS WE SAID WE HAD ONLY ANTICIPATED HAVING THE VIRTUAL PROGRAM WHEN THE GRANT FOR YEAR ONE AND YEAR TWO OF THE GRANT SO WE HAD NOT PLANNED TO HAVE THE VIRTUAL PROGRAM FOR THE YEAR THREE AS DR. YARBROUGH HAS INDICATED WE ALREADY PLANNED TO SPEND YEAR THREE IN OTHER WAYS THE TEAM WAS ABLE TO GO BACK AND CARVE OUT THE POSITIONS THAT WOULD EQUATE TO THE 6 MILLION TO CREATE A REDUCED PROGRAM IF WANT TO SUSTAIN THE PROGRAM AT THE CURRENT SIZE. WE DO NEED TO FIGURE OUT, AS DR. YARBROUGH SAID THAT $10 MILLION DIFFERENCE AND RATHER THAT DIFFERENCE IS ONE GRANT WHICH WOULD MEAN THERE'S OTHER TRADE

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OFFS. AND I'M NOT SURE THAT WE'RE PREPARED THIS EVENING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THOSE OTHER TRADE OFFS MAY OR MAY NOT BE BECAUSE YOU'D HAVE TO WEIGH ALL OF THAT INTO CONSIDERATION OR FIND THE DIFFERENCE IN OPERATING FUNDS TO SUSTAIN IT. SO. SO YES, IT'S IT'S IT'S YOU

KNOW, MANY DECISIONS TO MAKE SO .>> MS. HARVEY SO STILL NOT CLEAR. IS THE SIX PLUS MILLION COVERING THE PROGRAM AS DESCRIBED WITH THE 40% LOTTERY OR IS IT OR IS THE 40 THE

PROGRAM AS DESCRIBED WITH THE 40% LOTTERY REQUIRING THE THE 16 MILLION? >> WHAT DO WE? >> YES. SO THE REDUCED PROGRAM WHICH IS WHERE THE LOTTERY ENTERS THE CONVERSATION IS IS ONLY $6 MILLION TO SUSTAIN THE PROGRAM AS WE HAVE IT TODAY. THE LOTTERY ONLY EXISTS BECAUSE CAN'T IF WE REDUCE IT WE CANNOT ACCOMMODATE EVERY STUDENT WHO'S US THIS YEAR. SO THE LOTTERY WAS IT WAS OUR MOST EQUITABLE OF PUTTING IN TO TRY TO STAY INTO THE IN THE PROGRAM. SO THE 16 MILLION IS KIND OF THE CADILLAC VERSION AND THE 6 MILLION IS THAT THE SMALLER

REDUCED SIZE PROGRAM? >> AND YOUR CURRENT PROPOSAL IS TO FOR THIS ONE YEAR IMPLEMENT THE VLP WITH THE 40% LOTTERY IF WE REDUCE THE AND ITS SIZE THEN WE DON'T HAVE AS MUCH SPACE FOR ENROLLMENT. AND SO THE ENROLLMENT BECAUSE WE CAN ACCOMMODATE A SMALLER ENROLLMENT IS WHERE TRYING TO PROVIDE FAIR AND EQUITABLE ACCESS FOR THE FAMILIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE PROGRAM WHO MAY NOT WANT TO TO LEAVE THE PROGRAM BUT BECAUSE WE

WOULD BE REDUCING THE THE SIZE OF THE PROGRAM. >> I HOPE I HOPE THAT WE'RE CLEAR THAT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE ALL UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE SIX PLUS MILLION WAS PAYING FOR

.>> YES. SO THE SIX PLUS MILLION IS THE SMALLER PROGRAM .THE 6 MILLION IS WHAT WE'RE

CURRENTLY OFFERING. SO FORGIVE MY METAPHORS I TEND TO SPEAK IN METAPHORS. >> MS.. LICHTER, IF I MAY. DID YOU SAY IN YOUR PROPOSAL OR IN YOUR MOTION RATHER DID SAY GRADES ONE

THROUGH 12? >> I KNOW I SAID TWO. SO I WAS TRYING TO. SO IF NO NEW PLACEMENT, NO PLACEMENTS

EXCEPT MEDICAL OR ADMINISTRATIVE. >> YES. THANK YOU. AND IF I JUST MAY ADD A POINT OF UNDERSTANDING AS WELL FOR OUR BOARD MEMBERS MSD RECOMMENDATION COMING OUT OF THE FIRST YEAR OF VIRTUAL PROGRAMS ACROSS THE STATE WAS THEY RECOMMEND PROGRAMS YOUNGEST LEARNERS BE IN GRADE THREE AND SO WE WE WERE ROLLING THAT GRADE UP. SO TO YOUR POINT MS. LECTOR, YOU KNOW THIS YEAR'S FIRST GRADERS WOULD BECOME NEXT YEAR SECOND GRADERS THEIR ARE RECOMMENDING A THIRD GRADE AS KIND BEST PRACTICE FOR YOUNGER LEARNERS BECAUSE WE NOW

IT'S SUCH SUCH A CRITICAL YEAR IN THOSE EARLY GRADES AROUND LITERACY AND MATHEMATICS. >> SO

YOU'RE SAYING PREFERRED THREE THROUGH 12 VERSUS THE TWO THROUGH 12? >> WELL, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS FOR SIGHT. SO WHAT I HEAR AMONG OUR BOARD IS THERE IS AN INTEREST IN SUSTAINING SOME TYPE OF VIRTUAL OPTION FOR THE LONG RUN AND THAT I WOULD DEFINITELY SAY WE WANT TO HONOR YOU KNOW, IN YOUR PROPOSAL WHAT YOU SAID AROUND SECOND GRADE BUT I WOULD OFFER THAT IN YEARS BEYOND NEXT YEAR THAT BEST PRACTICE WOULD BE TO THAT COHORT UP TO THIRD GRADE AND NOT TO TAKE STUDENTS YOUNGER THAN THIRD GRADE IS WHAT THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION IS RECOMMENDING AS PROGRAMS CONTINUE TO EVOLVE WE KNOW THAT LIFE ON THIS SIDE OF THE PANDEMIC IS NOT YOU KNOW IS, GOING TO BE DIFFERENT. THE LANDSCAPE IS DIFFERENT AND I APPRECIATE OUR BOARD AND US WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THAT LANDSCAPE LOOK LIKE FOR OUR FAMILIES AND THE NOTION THAT IT END NEXT YEAR AS IS AND THEN

STAFF WOULD HAVE CHANCE TO SAY WHAT DOES VIRTUAL LEARNING LOOK LIKE IN PEACE AND BE PEACE? >>

YES. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? MADAM YES, SIR. >> YES, MARTIN ,THANK YOU. SO I HAD A QUESTION BASED ON BOARD MEMBER DISCUSSION AROUND TO SUSTAIN THE EXISTING DLP PROGRAM THROUGH ESSER FUNDS AND TO PRIORITIZE USE OF AS HER FUNDS TO DO SO OVER ANY NEW INITIATIVES OR NEW USE OF THE YEAR THREE FUNDS AND WHETHER OR NOT WE WANTED TO AMEND YOUR MOTION TO THAT AND IF WE WANTED TO ASK STAFF TO BRING US A PROPOSAL TO DO SO IF THERE

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WOULD BE SUPPORT AROUND ADDING TO YOUR MOTION SO SAY WHAT THE AMENDED MOTION WOULD BE. LET ME

PUT THAT IN THE CHAT. >> ARE YOU ADDING OR STRIKING WHAT I INCLUDED THE CHAT. >> I WAS ASKING IN GENERAL IF THERE INTEREST IN ADDING TO WHAT YOU PUT IN CHAT TO THAT WE WOULD CONTINUE THE EXISTING DRP PROGRAM AND FUNDED THROUGH ESSER AS FUNDING AND ASK STAFF TO BRING A PROPOSAL TO THE MEETING ON THE 28TH TO SPECIFY HOW THEY WOULD DO. DO SO BASICALLY BY POSTPONING OTHER USE OF OR COMING UP WITH AN ALTERNATIVE PLAN TO FIND ANYTHING THAT HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN PLANNED FOR THE USE OF THOSE FUNDS BECAUSE AS DR.

MCCOMAS SAID WERE PLANNED FOR OTHER USES. >> CAN I SPEAK TO OKAY. YES DR. JEROME OF THOSE THANK YOU MS. THEN I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THAT ARE NO NEW INITIATIVES THAT ARE BEING PLANNED FOR FY 24 USING ESSER THREE FUNDS. IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE FOR THE BOARD ONE OF THE LARGE EXPENDITURES BEYOND THE 15 MINUTES A DAY IS OUR SAFETY ASSISTANCE THAT WE'VE IMPLEMENTED ACROSS ALL SECONDARY SCHOOLS. WE'VE ADDED SAFETY ASSISTANCE AND WE STARTED THE IMPLEMENTATION OF SCHOOL SAFETY ASSISTANCE AND THEN I MENTIONED EARLIER OUR OTHER POSITIONS INCLUDING EPI FACILITATORS, STAFF DEVELOPMENT TEACHERS AND SOME SCHOOLS. IT'S TEACHERS IN SOME MIDDLE SCHOOLS .SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MOVING THE ESSER THREE FUNDS THERE ARE SOME FUNDS FOR AIR PURIFIERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REMOVING THOSE FUNDS. WE ARE LARGELY TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY PLACE IN SCHOOLS THAT WOULD BE LOSING POSITIONS FOR SOMETHING THAT IS YOU KNOW, ALSO IDENTIFIED AS A GOAL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SAFE AND SUPPORTIVE ENVIRONMENTS AND THAT WE'RE DEVELOPING THE CAPACITY WITHIN OUR TEACHERS SO WE CAN RETAIN THEM AND RECRUIT OTHER TEACHERS

SO THEY KNOW THEY'LL BE SUPPORTED AS THEY COME TO OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM. >> SO THESE ARE ADDITIONS OR THESE WERE FUNDED THIS THROUGH THE ESSER FUNDS ALSO YES THE LAST TO SAFETY ASSISTANCE STARTED THIS YEAR AND THEY'RE ON THE GRANT FOR NEXT YEAR AND SOME OF THE OTHER POSITIONS STARTED THE PREVIOUS YEAR SO IS OUR ESSER FUNDING FOR YEAR THREE LESS THAN WHAT IT WAS FOUR YEARS ONE AND TWO NOW SO IF WE FUNDED IT IF WE FUNDED ALL THIS YEAR WHY CAN'T WE NOW FUND IT ALL NEXT YEAR UNLESS THEY'RE POSITIONS SO FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE GRANT AND I'LL ASK HART IF I SAY ANYTHING INCORRECT TO CORRECT ME IF SO FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE GRANT PROPOSED WHAT THE SPENDING WOULD BE FOR EACH YEAR .SO IF YOU GO TO THAT DOCUMENT THAT'S THE WEB AND ALSO IN OUR AMENDMENT WE DIDN'T ONLY WHAT WE NEEDED YEAR ONE, YEAR ONE YOU'LL SEE MORE OF A RELIANCE ON THOSE THINGS THAT WERE DIRECTLY RELATED THE TO THE PANDEMIC LIKE MASKS LIKE AIR PURIFIERS ETC. THE EXTRA 15 MINUTES IS ON ALL THREE YEARS OF THE GRANT YOU'LL FIND THE SAFETY ASSISTANCE AFTER THE STUDENTS CAME BACK FROM THE GRANT AND WE REALIZED THAT THEY NEEDED MORE SUPPORT. THAT'S WHEN IN THE AMENDMENT WE PLANNED FOR STARTING WITH THE PILOT LAST SPRING FLY 23 AND FLY 24 TO USE THE SAFETY ASSISTANCE. SO FROM THE VERY BEGINNING WE ALLOCATED A THREE YEAR PLAN AS NEEDS AROSE THAT WERE DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE PANDEMIC. WE SUBMITTED AMENDMENTS TO THE STATE THAT WERE APPROVED SAFETY ASSISTANCE BEING A LARGE ONE AND SO YOU KNOW EVERYTHING HAS BEEN ALLOCATED COMPENSATORY SERVICES TO LOOK AT THE IMPACT OF THE PANDEMIC ON OUR SPECIAL EDUCATION STUDENTS AND THEIR NEEDS AND SO THAT'S WHY WE WERE ABLE TO GO LOOK AT ACTUALS ACTUAL EXPENDITURES VERSUS WHAT WAS PROJECTED TO FIND OUT WHERE WE HAD SPACE AND HOW WE COULD RESPOND TO THE NEED AS AS YOU HAVE POINTED OUT AS YOU KNOW MR. MCMILLAN HAVE POINTED OUT THAT WE KNOW THAT VLP CERTAINLY MEETS THE NEED OF OUR STUDENTS AND FAMILIES. SO WHAT'S THE FUNDING THAT'S AVAILABLE AND HOW MANY FTE COULD WE AFFORD AND LEVERAGE WHAT WE ALREADY

HAD IN E-LEARNING TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THOSE STUDENTS? >> THANK YOU DR.. OH, MADAM CHAIR ,MAY I FINISH MY QUESTION OR COMMENT BRIEFLY? I DON'T NEED TO MAKE MOTION TO AMEND YOUR MOTION IN THAT CASE I WOULD JUST ASK AND WOULD STILL SUPPORT THIS. I WOULD ASK THAT

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THE BOARD RECEIVE A DETAILED SHOULD THIS MOTION PASS OF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION

FUNDING. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU DR. WILLIAMS. THANK YOU GOOD EVENING BOARD MEMBERS. >> DR.

YARBOROUGH ACTUALLY GAVE THE THAT I WAS GOING TO GIVE THE ESSER FUNDS TO DEVELOP A PLAN AND FOR US TO GO BACK AND FIND $10 MILLION TO CONTINUE THE AS IS OF THE VIRTUAL LEARNING PROGRAM THAT MEANS WE WILL LOOKING AT SOMETHING WITHIN THE PLAN SUCH SAFETY ASSISTANCE COMPENSATORY SERVICES IS JUST TO NAME TWO ITEMS AND OF COURSE THE BIG TICKET ITEM WAS 15 EXTRA MINUTES THAT WE NEEDED TO DO AS A SYSTEM TO PUT US IN LINE WITH SYSTEMS IN THE STATE

OF MARYLAND AND. >> SO I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ASK THE THIS MOTION FOR US TO GO BACK IT DOES THAT WE WOULD BE ELIMINATING POSITIONS PARTICULARLY AROUND WHAT WE'VE ADDED IN THE AMENDMENT BUT I BELIEVE DR. YARBROUGH GAVE A VERY DETAILED RESPONSE ON MY BEHALF. THANK YOU, DR. YARBROUGH THANK YOU, DR. HAGER YEAH. JUST ECHOING WHAT WE JUST HEARD I CANNOT GET BEHIND $10 MILLION OUT OF OUR ESSER FUNDS GIVEN THAT BELIEVE ALSO THEIR USE FOR TUTORING SERVICES AND SOME OF THE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES IN SCHOOLS AND I KNOW EVERYTHING'S A TRADE OFF BUT I JUST THINK THAT WE CAN TAKE $10 MILLION OF THAT TO SUSTAIN THE VLP. I DO APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION THE STAFF GAVE PROVIDING A REASONABLE WAY TO EXTEND WHAT WOULD ALREADY EXISTS AND THEN WE CAN REVISIT IT NEXT YEAR BUT BUT I THINK THE $6 MILLION PROPOSAL ON THE TABLE MAKES SENSE I THINK ADDING THE OTHER $10 MILLION AND TAKING IT AWAY FROM OTHER SERVICES JUST DOESN'T ANY SENSE TO ME THAT'S ALL. OKAY SO CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE AT THIS TIME WE'RE VOTING ON THE WHAT I'D LIKE TO REWRITE THE MOTION BUT I'M JUST GOING WRITE I GUESS WHAT MY WORRY IS IS WE'VE GONE THIS BIG TO THIS SMALL SO IS THERE A WAY I'M JUST WORRIED ABOUT THAT 40 IT DOESN'T EVEN FEEL LIKE 40% BASED ON THE NUMBERS THAT YOU GAVE. SO I GUESS KNOWING HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE MEDICAL PLACEMENTS AND HOW MANY BECAUSE HOW MANY OF THOSE THE NUMBERS THAT YOU GAVE US JUST DON'T ADD UP TO 40%. IT SOUNDS LIKE WAY MORE STUDENTS WILL BE DISPLACED OUT OF THE VIRTUAL LEARNING PROGRAM THAN 40 UNLESS YOU HAVE A VAST MAJORITY OF THOSE KIDS THAT HAVE MEDICAL AND THAT WOULD TAKE UP THE MEDICAL SPACES. SO I WISH THERE WAS A COMPROMISE BETWEEN SO FEW KIDS

REMAINING AND THEN THE AND THEN ALL REMAINING CHAIR LICHTER YEAH, I'M SORRY. >> I JUST WANT TO CLARIFICATION THE 40% IS 40% OF THE VOLUNTARY STUDENTS NOT. IT'S NOT 40% OF THE TOTAL POOL

.IT'S 40% OF THOSE STUDENTS WHO ARE ELECTING TO ATTEND. >> LET ME LET ME SHARE THE PROCESS WE WE WENT THROUGH I THINK MAKING IT MUCH MORE CLEAR AND I'M SORRY THAT IT WASN'T CLEAR .SO WHAT WE WHAT WE DID WAS WE REDUCED THE SIZE OF THE VIP FIRST DECIDED HOW MANY SEATS WE WOULD HAVE IN EACH GRADE AND THEN TOOK 40% OF THOSE SEATS AND ALLOCATED FOR LOTTERY SEATS

.SO IT'S NOT AT 40% OF ANYTHING THAT IS CURRENT. >> IT'S 40% OF THE NEW NUMBER NEW

STRUCTURE. >> OKAY. VERY MUCH REDUCED SIZE. RIGHT. SO FOR MIDDLE SCHOOL YOU SAID THAT THERE ARE CURRENTLY 98 STUDENTS SO THAT WHAT THE NUMBER WAS THIS YEAR THERE'S 98 MIDDLE

SCHOOLERS. >> I MEAN HOW MANY MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS DO WE HAVE? >> THIS IS NOW 363 300

OKAY. >> 363 HOW MANY SEATS WILL BE FOR MIDDLE SCHOOL? I FEEL LIKE WE'RE TWO IN A TEST, YES. HOW MANY STUDENT SEATS WILL THERE BE FOR MIDDLE SCHOOLERS IN YOUR PROPOSED 244 TOTAL AND THAT INCLUDES OR DOES NOT INCLUDE MEDICAL EXTRA STAFFING NEEDS AND ADMINISTRATIVE INCLUDES INCLUDE .SO 98% OR 98 STUDENTS LOTTERY SEATS AND 146 SEATS FOR PLACEMENTS SO 98 STUDENTS FROM THE CURRENT 300 AND SOME STUDENTS SO THAT'S WAY LESS THAT'S NOT THE 40% WAS THROWING US SORRY IF I INTERRUPT THAT THAT PIECE IS NOT CORRECT SO OUT OF THE 300 STUDENTS THAT WE HAVE IN MIDDLE SCHOOL RIGHT NOW ,SOME OF THEM WILL MEET THE CRITERIA SOME OF THEM HAVE ARE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE PLACEMENTS OF SOME OF THEM THERE YOU KNOW ,SOME OF THEM WILL BE ABLE TO FILE FOR MEDICAL EXEMPTIONS HEALTH EXEMPTIONS, ETC. AND SO

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THAT'S WHY ONE OF THE REPORTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BRING BACK TO THE BOARD IS HOW MANY OF THE STUDENTS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE NOW WOULD FALL THE PLACEMENT SIDE VERSUS HOW MANY OF THE STUDENTS NOW NOT QUALIFY AND WOULD HAVE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE LOTTERY AND IF I MIGHT CHAIR LICHTER TO YOUR QUESTION TERMS OF IS THERE A PLACE IN THE MIDDLE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO AND I KNOW THAT DR. ELMENDORF ALREADY STARTED THIS WORK WAS TO LOOK AT E-LEARNING AND HOW DO WE LEVERAGE SOME E-LEARNING SEATS TO OPEN THIS UP A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR FAMILIES? AND SO THAT IS CERTAINLY WORK THAT WE CAN TAKE BACK FOR THE TEAM BECAUSE WHAT I'M HEARING IS WE CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE FISCAL IMPLICATIONS BUT WE ALSO WANT TO BE RESPONSIVE TO OUR FAMILIES. SO WHAT'S THAT NUMBER WE CAN MEET SIX AND A HALF MILLION LEVERAGE SOME OTHER RESOURCES AND ALLOW MORE STUDENTS WHERE THIS WORKS FOR

THEM TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM. >> SO SHOULD THE MOTION TO POSTPONE DECISION UNTIL WE GET REVISED PROPOSAL AT THE 228 MEETING THERE'S A THERE'S A MOTION PENDING. OKAY

.>> RIGHT. CAN I TAKE CAN I DELETE MY MOTION IF EVERYBODY AGREES I WOULD I WOULD THROW MY SECOND OKAY SO WE YOUR MOTION CAN BE WITHDRAWN WITH THE CONSENT OF THE BOARD MEMBERS.

>> SO I'D LIKE TO WITHDRAW MY ORIGINAL MOTION MEMBER MULL MOTION. DO I HAVE THE CONSENT OF THE BOARD? YES. WHAT ARE WHAT ARE YOU HEARING? NO OBJECTION. HEARING NO OBJECTION WE REMOVED THE WE REMOVED THE MOTION THE NEW MOTION IS WE'D TO POSTPONE A DECISION ON THE PROPOSAL FOR THE VLP FOR THE UPCOMING SCHOOL YEAR AND TO MORE INFORMATION IS PROVIDED THE FEBRUARY 28TH MEETING DOCKET BISCAYNE OKAY ANY DISCUSSION OKAY NOW WE'LL TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THAT SECOND MOTION. YES, I CAN PUT THAT IN THE MOTION TO POSTPONE A VOTE ON THE PROPOSED REVISIONS TO THE B LP PROGRAM OR THE UPCOMING SCHOOL YEAR UNTIL MORE INFORMATION OUR MISSION IS AT THE 220 8:23 P.M. MEETING HERE .MY GRANDMOTHER WAS A COURT

STENOGRAPHER SO I GOT THAT FAST TYPING. OKAY, GOT IT. OKAY, ROLL CALL THOUGH PLEASE. >>

SOMEONE ELSE? YES. PUMPHREY YES MR. MCMILLIAN YES MISS HIM? YES MISS HARVEY? >> YES. ALL RIGHT .IS SON YES MR. OFFERMAN? YES ,DR. SAVOY YES DR. HAGER. YES ,MR. KIM. YES, MISS LECTER.

[L. NEW BUSINESS - ACTION TAKEN IN CLOSED SESSION (Mr. Brousaides, Esq.) (8:55 - 9:00 p.m.)]

YES. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU ,EVERYONE. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ACTION TAKEN CLOSED SESSION AND FOR THAT I CALL MR. MERCEDES NOTHING TO REPORT OR SESSION MISS LICHTER

[M. NEW BUSINESS - CONTRACT AWARDS (Mr. Hartlove and Mr. Dixit) (9:00 - 9:15 p.m.)]

,THANK GOODNESS. OKAY. NEXT WE CAME A COUPLE OF MINUTES. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS CONTRACT AWARDS AND. FOR THAT I CALL MISS JONES CHAIR OF THE BUILDING AND CONTRACTS

COMMITTEE MEANT MADAM CHAIR I WILL BE IN AS VICE CHAIR FOR MISS JONES. >> YES. OKAY. SO I CALL ON MISS HARVEY MEMBERS OF THE BOARD THE BOARD'S BUILDING AND CONTRACTS COMMITTEE MET ON MONDAY FEBRUARY 2023 ITEMS IN ONE THROUGH IM 17 ARE BEING FORWARDED TO THE FULL BOARD FOR APPROVAL. DO I HAVE A OKAY? NO SECOND IS NEEDED DISCUSSION MS. PUMPHREY I CAN I JUST WANT TO I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO POOL ITEM NUMBER TWO TO VOTE SEPARATELY SHOULD I PUT THAT IN THE CHART THE MOTION? DOES SHE NEED TO WRITE THAT AS A MOTION WE JUST

PULL NUMBER TWO IT CAN JUST BE VOTED ON SEPARATELY. >> OKAY OTHER DISCUSSION SO SO THE MOTION WOULD THEN BE RIGHT 1133 THROUGH 17 OKAY SO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS AND ONE AND THREE THROUGH 17 SO MOVED AND MOVED OFF HERMAN CAIN NO SECOND IS NEEDED SINCE THE RECOMMENDATION COMES FROM THE COMMITTEE ANY DISCUSSION MR. KERN OH THANK YOU REGARDING CONTRACT AND TO 512 DASH 23 INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY RESEARCH AND ADVISORY SERVICES I JUST

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WANT SOME CLARIFICATION ON THE CONTRACT AUTHORITY AS FOR $1 MILLION THE TERM IS MONTHS AND IT HAS TO IT LOOKS LIKE TWO ONE YEAR EXTENSIONS AND MY MY QUESTION IS IS THE $1 MILLION BEING BUDGETED FOR THE ENTIRE TIME OR IS IT $1 MILLION FOR FIVE MONTHS THE $1 MILLION FOR THE ENTIRE TERM AND THAT'S JUST FOR GARTNER CONSULTING FOR IS IT BY SEE OR IS IT FOR THE

ENTIRE ORGANIZATION? >> IT IS OF ACCESS TO YEAH SO THE THE SERVICES FOR ENTERPRISE USE HOWEVER THERE ARE FIVE SEATS THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE WITHIN THE DIVISION OF I.T BUT IT DOES ALLOW US TO HAVE CONSULTING SERVICES OR ACCESS TO THE AUTHORS OF , THE RESEARCH

PAPERS AND AN ANALYSIS THAT GARTNER PROVIDES AND PUTS OUT ALL. >> RIGHT. THANK YOU DR.

HAGER. THANK YOU. MY QUESTION IS FOR NUMBER SIX. THE THE BUS TRACKING APPLICATION. I JUST WHEN FIRST JOINED THE BOARD WE WERE HAVING A LOT OF DEBATES ABOUT A SYSTEM THAT HAVE ALLOWED FOR CAMERAS THAT WOULD TAKE PICTURES OF FOLKS WHO ZOOM BUSSES AND THEY WOULD BE TICKETED AND THAT WOULD THEN PAY FOR CAMERAS IN BUSSES AND GPS SYSTEMS AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS THAT OUR SCHOOL BUSSES NEEDED TO BE EQUIPPED FOR. AND I THOUGHT WE HAD HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT A SIMILAR CONTRACT THAT WOULD ESSENTIALLY PAY FOR ITSELF MOVING FORWARD AND THEN THIS CONTRACT CAME FORWARD WITH THE GPS THAT'S CLEARLY NEEDED. I GUESS I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IS THAT SOMETHING WE'RE EVEN PURSUING ANYMORE OR WE JUST MOVED TO TO EXPLORE WAYS WE PAY FOR IT OURSELVES AND IF SO, WOULD INVESTING THIS $2.5 MILLION AND THEN IF IN A FEW MONTHS WE FIND A WAY THAT WOULD HAVE PAID FOR IT, IS THAT THE RIGHT MOVE TO GO? I GUESS TRACKING THAT DR. HAGER, THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION. YOU ARE CORRECT. WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS REGARDING OTHER CONTRACTS BUT ONE OF THE CHARGES THAT WE RECEIVED LAST YEAR VERY CLEAR FROM OUR FAMILIES AS WELL AS MEMBER OF THE BOARD WAS TO IMPROVE OUR SERVICES AND TRANSPORTATION AND TO IMPROVE OUR COMMUNICATION IN TERMS OF TIMELINESS. AND SO ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE HAD TO DO THAT WAS TO FIND A MOBILE AND WEB BASED APP BUS TRACKING APPLICATION. WE STARTED THE PILOT SPRING AND CONTINUED EXPANDED THROUGHOUT THE SCHOOL YEAR. WE ARE AWARE OF THE COMPANY THAT REMAINS AVAILABLE THAT DID NOT APPEAR TO BE FEASIBLE FOR BALTIMORE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND SO AS WE CONTINUE TO DELIVER ON OUR PROMISE TO DELIVER TIMELY AND EFFICIENT SERVICES TO SCHOOLS THIS TRAVELING TRACKING APPLICATION ALLOWS US MOVE FROM PILOT TO ALL OF THE STUDENTS ACROSS THE ENTIRE SYSTEM WHEREAS WE WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO SQUARE ONE AND DELAY THE ENTIRE ROLLOUT OF THE APPLICATION TRACKING SYSTEM TO ALL OF OUR FAMILIES IF WE WANTED TO EXPLORE FOR AN TIME THE COMPANY THAT YOU OR THE CONTRACT THAT YOU WERE REFERRING TO AND THAT'S FINE I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF THERE WAS ANY MOVEMENT IN THAT DIRECTION

.SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWER .I APPRECIATE IT. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. MR. KOON, YOU ALSO HAD A QUESTION ABOUT NUMBER SIX. I DID. I HAD A QUICK FOLLOW UP AND I THINK IT WAS ANSWERED BUT I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THIS INCLUDES ALL BUSSES IN ALL CONTRACT BUSSES THAT SERVICE

BALTIMORE COUNTY, IS THAT CORRECT? >> YOU ARE CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MISS HAN

.WELCOME. >> THANK YOU. I ALSO HAD A FOLLOW UP QUESTION ON THE SIX THE BOARD'S OBJECTION TO THE CONTRACT WE WERE DISCUSSING WAS NOT THE SERVICE THAT WAS PROVIDED. IN FACT OUR DIRECTION WAS TO PURSUE BIT POTENTIAL BIDDERS TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE .SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS SPEAKERS PRESENT SOME FALSE INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC SO I WANTED TO ONE COMMENT ON THAT EFFECT BUT ALSO TO ASK WHETHER OR NOT THE SYSTEM HAS PURSUED

OTHER VENDORS TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE BEFORE WE GO THIS ROUTE .>> GOOD EVENING MS. END THIS

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IS DR. GRAHAM. AT THE PRESENT TIME THERE ARE NO OTHER VENDORS PROVIDE THIS TYPE

OF COMPREHENSIVE SERVICE THAT WERE LOOKING FOR PREVIOUSLY. >> OKAY SO AT THE TIME I REMEMBER PROVIDING ONE THAT INITIALLY SEEMED TO PROVIDE SIMILAR SERVICES AND SHARED THAT

INFORMATION SO THEY WERE DEEMED NOT COMPARABLE. >> I TAKE IT THAT IS CORRECT. THERE ARE THERE NO OTHER VENDORS THAT PROVIDE THE FULL SCALE SERVICES WE'RE LOOKING FOR AS A SYSTEM?

>> OKAY. THANK DR. GRAHAM. >> MR. KUHN. OH, THANK YOU. I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT NTA FIVE 1023 PURCHASE OF REPLACEMENT AND ADDITIONAL MOTOR VEHICLES. THIS IS THIS CONTRACT LOOKS LIKE IT'S FOR EIGHT MONTHS AND THEN TWO EXTENSION YEARS AND IT'S FOR 14 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS. SO JUST LOOKING AT WHAT WAS PROVIDED IT THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR BUDGETED WAS $400,000. I GUESS I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS AND MY FIRST QUESTION IS ARE WE JUST RUNNING OUT OF BUDGETED FOR THIS NEED SINCE WE ONLY HAVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS I GUESS THIS

FISCAL YEAR OR LEFT AND WE NEED TO ADD 14 MILLION DOLLARS LEFT ?>> I'M JUST TRYING TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW MANY VEHICLES WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE BECAUSE IT'S A SIGNIFICANT DOLLAR AMOUNT AND I DON'T BELIEVE AND YOU CAN I DON'T BELIEVE THIS COVERS ANY ANY BUS ,ANY PURCHASES OF BUSSES. THIS IS JUST PASSENGER LIGHT AND MEDIUM DUTY VEHICLES. SO KOON I'M GOING TO ADD ANSWER THE LAST PART OF YOUR QUESTION FIRST YOU'RE CORRECT THERE THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT IS NOT FOR ANY SCHOOL BUSSES YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT IT IS FOR LIGHT AND DUTY VEHICLES. SO IT'S FOR PICKUP TRUCKS, SUV VANS, THOSE THOSE TYPES OF VEHICLES NOT OUR LARGE DUMP TRUCKS FOR EXAMPLE. NO SCHOOL BUSSES, NO TRUCKS, ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE. WHAT THIS CONTRACT DOES IS IT ACTUALLY RECONCEIVE ISES THE WAY WE HAVE BEEN PURCHASING VEHICLES IN THE PAST DUE TO THE PANDEMIC WE'VE HAD DIFFICULTY AS AS EVERYONE HAS IN PROCURE ING VEHICLES AND OFTEN WITH A LEAD TIME OF 18 MONTHS OR MORE WHICH MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO REPLACE VEHICLES. SO FOR EXAMPLE LAST YEAR THE ONLY VEHICLES WE COULD REPLACE FOR THIS CURRENT YEAR WERE OUR LARGE TEN TON DUMP TRUCKS. SO WE HAD DIFFICULTY PROCURING REPLACING OTHER VEHICLES THAT WERE ON THE REPLACEMENT SCHEDULE. WHAT THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT ALLOWS US TO DO AND SIMILAR TO QUESTION THAT YOU HAD FOR THE IT CONTRACT IT PROVIDES US THE SPEND AUTHORITY OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME TO REPLACE OUR VEHICLES. PIGGYBACKING ON A BALTIMORE COUNTY GOVERNMENT CONTRACT. SO THAT AS THE NEED ARRIVES WE CAN WE CAN PURCHASE THOSE WE CAN ORDER THOSE VEHICLES. WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THAT THE MANUFACTURE ARE SHIFTING THEIR MODEL FOR HOW GOVERNMENTS CAN VEHICLES. AND IN FACT WE HAD SEVERAL VEHICLES THAT WE WERE TRYING TO PURCHASE LAST YEAR WHICH THOSE WERE THOSE WERE CAN'T SIMPLY THOSE ORDERS WERE CANCELED BECAUSE THE MANUFACTURERS WEREN'T TAKING THEM. SO A SHIFT IN MODEL OF HOW WE'RE LOOKING TO PROCURE VEHICLES MOVING FORWARD IN ORDER TO KEEP UP WITH OUR REPLACEMENT SCHEDULE MEET THE NEEDS OF THE SYSTEM. THANK YOU FOR THAT ANSWER. JUST TO FOLLOW .I'M I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT NUMBER NINE WHICH I BELIEVE IS RELATED SOMEHOW AND THAT'S WHAT MY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MASTER LEASE FINANCING. IT TALKS ABOUT IT'S A $62 MILLION CONTRACTS BUYING AUTHORITY FOR FIVE AND A HALF YEARS AND IT LOOKS AS IF WE'RE GOING TO ATTEMPT TO USE THIS FINANCING VEHICLE TO LEASE VEHICLES ALONG WITH SCHOOL BUSSES, TRUCKS AND OTHER ESSENTIAL EQUIPMENT. IS THE MONEY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PROVIDING FOR THIS 14 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS IS ANY OF IT GOING TO BE USED IN THIS MASTER LEASE FINANCING? AND IF NOT, CAN SOMEONE PLEASE JUST EXPLAIN THE MASTER LEASE FINANCING CONTRACT AND WHY WE WOULD WE ARE MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION FOR VEHICLES THE MASTER LEASED LEASE FINANCING IS JUST IT'S WHAT IT'S BEEN OUR PRACTICE OUR ONGOING IS THAT WE WE LEASE VEHICLES AND THIS IS JUST AN UPDATED AGREEMENT IS THAT THAT'S I MEAN THAT'S THAT'S WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE WAY WE ARE. OUR BUSINESS

PRACTICE ITS BEEN TO LEASE VEHICLES AND THIS IS JUST AN UPDATED LEASE CONTRACT. >> SO

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THE THE 14 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLAR PURCHASE OF REPLACEMENT ADDITIONAL MOTOR VEHICLES. SO WE'RE BUYING SOME VEHICLES AND WERE LEASING OTHER VEHICLES IS WHAT I'M HEARING. SO IT'S ACTUALLY THE FINANCING IT'S THE FACT IT'S THE FINANCING IT SAYS BUT IT'S ACTUALLY THE FINANCING OF IT. WE'RE NOT LEASING VEHICLES. WE'RE PROCURING VEHICLES. WHEN I WHEN I MET WAS IS THIS IS THE FINANCING FOR VEHICLES WE'VE ALWAYS FINANCED VEHICLES WE'VE ALWAYS WE'VE

ALWAYS BUY FINANCING MAKES SENSE I UNDERSTAND THAT. >> BUT WHEN THE WORD LEASE IS IN THERE .YES. YES. IS THAT A MISNOMER WHAT I THINK IT I THINK IT IS IT IS IT IS IT'S IT IT IT FOOLED ME AS WELL IT'S IT'S ACTUALLY NOT IT'S NOT LEASING IT'S IT'S FINANCING OF THE

VEHICLES THAT WE ARE BUYING. >> AND MR. COCHRAN, JUST TO ADD SOME CLARIFICATION IN THE IN THE SCHOOL BUS INDUSTRY, IT'S COMMON PRACTICE TO CALL IT A LEASE PURCHASE BECAUSE OF THE LIMITED LIFESPAN OF A SCHOOL BUS AND A TYPICAL UNLIKE MOST VEHICLE LOANS A SCHOOL BUS LOAN IS TYPICALLY FOR SIX YEARS AND IT'S LIFE IS FOR 12 SO IT'S REALLY CALLED A LEASE PURCHASE AND AT END OF THE 12 YEARS WHEN WE CYCLE THOSE SCHOOL VEHICLES OUT THERE, SCHOOL BUSSES OUT THEY GO, THEY GO TO AUCTION SO WE OWN THEM OUTRIGHT AT THAT TIME BUT THAT'S THAT'S A TERM THAT'S USED QUITE A BIT IN THE SCHOOL BUS INDUSTRY AS IF THAT HELPS ANY PROVIDE ANY

CLARIFICATION. >> THANK YOU. OKAY. WELL THANK YOU. I THINK I GUESS MY EXPLANATION THERE IT

IS A BIT CONFUSING AND YOU'RE OUT OF TIME MR. KUHN BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTIONS. >> I'M SORRY I DON'T HAVE TIME FOR CONTRACT TO SPEAK. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING BECAUSE

THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT ALL DIFFERENT ITEMS. >> THAT HASN'T BEEN THE PRACTICE. THAT HASN'T BEEN THE PRACTICE. SO WE'RE VOTING ON ONE AND THEN THREE THROUGH 17. SO YOU HAD YOUR

MINUTES FOR THAT. OKAY. >> THANK YOU. SO AT THIS TIME IT'S OVER A ROLL CALL VOTE ONE AND

THREE THROUGH 17 INSTALLMENTS. >> YES MS. PUMPHREY YES. MR. MCMILLIAN YES. MISHAN YES. MS.

HARVEY YES, MRS. SON YES. >> MR. OFFERMAN. YES. DR. SAVOY. YES DR. HAGER. YES MR. KUHN.

YES. >> MS. LECTOR. YES. THANK YOU. NOW DISCUSSION ON NUMBER TWO CONTRACT TO MS.. HUMPHREY,

WOULD YOU WANT TO START? >> NO ,I JUST KNOW YOU JUST WANT TO SEPARATE IT AS NEEDED TO

SEPARATE. I DON'T NEED ANY DISCUSSION ON NUMBER TWO BUT I HAVE A QUESTION. >> THIS IS MR.

KOON. OKAY, GO AHEAD. >> SO I DON'T BELIEVE AND PERHAPS I'VE MISSED IT IN THE PAST BUT HAVE CONTRACTS FOR HEARING EXAMINERS ALWAYS COME THE BOARD I THOUGHT THAT A LOT OF THAT FLOWED THROUGH THE LAW OFFICE AND THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE OUR OWN HEARING EXAMINERS. AND SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT AND THIS IS ONLY FOR AN AUTHORITY OF $100,000 OVER THREE YEARS SO I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW HOW IT WORKS SOMEONE IS IT A PER HOUR CONTRACT WE DID DISCUSS THIS AT THE IT AT THE MEETING LAST NIGHT IN MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS ALL ALONG IT'S JUST ADDITIONAL HEARING EXAMINERS AND THEY ARE ON AN AS NEEDED

BASIS SO MY UNDERSTANDING WOULD BE THAT THEY WOULD IT WOULD BE AN HOURLY CONTRACT. >> GOOD EVENING MEMBERS OF THE THIS MARGARET AND HOWIE MR. COHEN, I'M ABLE TO ANSWER EXTEND MR.

HART LOVE'S RESPONSE IF I'M PERMITTED THAT WOULD BE GREAT. >> YES, GO AHEAD. SURE. SO AS INDICATED IN THE EXHIBIT, THIS IS AN EXTENSION THAT WE ALREADY HAVE THAT HAVE COME BEFORE THE BOARD FOR YOUR EXAMINERS. THIS IS SIMPLY FOR TO EXAMINERS WHO ARE LOCAL. BUT YES THE BOARD

HAS VOTED PREVIOUSLY ON HEARING EXAMINERS ON APPROVING THEM FOR YOUR PANEL. >> >> ALL RIGHT.

THANKS. THANK YOU. ROLL CALL VOTE ON NUMBER TWO. >> I THINK WE HAVE A NEED TO MAKE A MOTION

FOR NUMBER 2/1 TO EITHER MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER TWO SUMMARY THANK YOU. >> NO SECOND

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IS NEEDED SINCE THE RECOMMENDATION CAME FROM THE COMMITTEE. ANY FURTHER

DISCUSSION MAY HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE TIME AND ASK. >> YES MS. PUMPHREY STEYN MR. MCMILLIAN YES MS. TEN YES. MS. HARVEY YES .MRS. SON YES OFFERMAN. YES. DR. SAVOY YES. DR. HAGER. YES MR. KUHN. YES. YES. THANK YOU. OKAY NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS MY SECOND GETTING TO IT THESE

[N. REPORT - DEER PARK MIDDLE MAGNET SCHOOL CAPACITY RELIEF BOUNDARY STUDY (Dr. Yarbrough, Dr. Zarchin, Mr. Dixit, and Mr. Cropper) (9:15 - 9:45 p.m.)]

CONTRACTS THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE REPORT ON THE DEER PARK MIDDLE MAGNET SCHOOL CAPACITY RELIEF BOUNDARY STUDY AND FOR THAT I CALLED YARBROUGH MR. DIXIT MR. CROPPER AND DR.

ZERKIN, BLESS YOU. >> GOOD EVENING. LECTURE VICE VICE-CHAIR HARVEY DEPUTY SUPERINTENDENT DR. YARBOROUGH AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD WE ARE HERE TODAY TO PRESENT THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION FOR THE DEER PARK MIDDLE MAGNET SCHOOL BOUNDARY CHAIN. JOINING ME TODAY ARE DR. ZAKI, MR. TAYLOR OF MY TEAM DIRECTOR OF STRATEGIC AND OUR CONSULTANT MR. MATTHEW CROPPER OF CROPPER GAS. AND WITH THIS I'LL REQUESTS DR. ZIRCON TO MAKE THE

PRESENTATION. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. THE DEER PARK MIDDLE MAGNET SCHOOL BOUNDARY STUDY PROCESS WAS CONDUCTED THE FALL OF 2022. THE PURPOSE OF THIS BOUNDARY STUDY WAS TO PROVIDE CAPACITY RELIEF TO DEER PARK MAGNET MIDDLE SCHOOL AS OF SEPTEMBER 30TH 2021 DEER PARK MIDDLE SCHOOL WAS OVER CAPACITY BY 254 STUDENTS WHICH IS 120% AND IS PROJECTED TO CONTINUE TO BE OVER CAPACITY IN THE FUTURE. THE STUDY IS CONSISTENT WITH THE RECOMMENDATION FOR CAPACITY RELIEF PROVIDED WITHIN THE MULTI-YEAR IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR ALL SCHOOLS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE .THE BOUNDARY PROCESS FOLLOWED BOARD POLICY AND SUPERINTENDENT RULE 1280. THE PROCESS WAS FACILITATED BY MR. MATTHEW CROPPER OF CROPPER GIBBS. EACH SCHOOL IN THE STUDY ESTABLISH THE COMMITTEE WHICH WAS COMPRISED THE SCHOOL'S PRINCIPAL TWO TEACHERS, TWO COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND MR. AARON PLYMOUTH WHO REPRESENTED AS THE NORTHWEST EDUCATOR CHAIR. PRINCIPALS FULLY PARTICIPATED IN THE BOUNDARY STUDY. HOWEVER THEY WERE NOT VOTING MEMBERS ON COMMITTEES. ONLY TEACHERS, COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND. THE CHAIR OF THE NORTHWEST AREA EDUCATION ADVISORY COUNCIL WERE VOTING MEMBERS. BCP STAFF FROM A WIDE RANGE OF DIVISIONS, DEPARTMENTS AND OFFICES SUPPORTED THE BOUNDARY STUDY.

AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO TURN THE PRESENTATION TO MR. PAUL TAYLOR. THANK YOU. IN ORDER TO PROVIDE CAPACITY TO DEER PARK MIDDLE MAGNET SCHOOL AND MAKE THE BEST AND MOST USE OF AVAILABLE CAPACITY IN THE REGION. DR. WILLIAMS APPROVED THE INITIATION OF A BOUNDARY CHANGE PROCESS WHICH CONTAINS PHASES. THE FIRST PHASE BEGAN WITH PLANNING FROM JULY THROUGH AUGUST 2022. THE BOUNDARY STUDY WAS THEN HELD FROM SEPTEMBER THROUGH DECEMBER 2022. THE BOUNDARY STUDY COMMITTEE MET FOUR TIMES DURING THIS PERIOD TO FORMULATE AND REVIEW VARIOUS BOUNDARY CHANGE OPTIONS. THE FIFTH SCHEDULED MEETING WAS NOT HELD BECAUSE THE COMMITTEE PREPARED TO VOTE AND MOVE FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION THEIR FOURTH MEETING ON NOVEMBER 30TH 2020 TO THE NEXT PHASE AND THE PROCESS CONTINUES EVENING WITH COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION BEING PRESENTED TO THE BOARD'S REVIEW. FURTHER COMMUNITY INPUT AND THEN A VOTE BY THE BOARD OF EDUCATION ON MARCH 14, 2023 THROUGH THE BOUNDARY STUDY BCBS SUPPORTS A PROCESS THAT FULLY ENGAGED THE COMMUNITY AND SHARES ABOUT THE PROCESS AND AS IT UNFOLDS OPENLY WITH ALL STAKEHOLDERS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE .FIVE NORTHWEST AREA MIDDLE SCHOOLS PARTICIPATED IN THIS

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BOUNDARY PROCESS. THIS SLIDE OUTLINES WHICH SCHOOLS PARTICIPATED THE BOUNDARY WILL BECOME EFFECTIVE FALL 2023. FOLLOWING BORDER APPROVAL NOTIFICATION WILL BE SENT TO ALL STUDENTS ATTENDING THE PARTICIPATING SCHOOLS. STUDENTS WILL BE NOTIFIED OF THE BOUNDARY DECISIONS. THE NEXT STEPS WILL HAVE STAFF WHO COORDINATE TO ENSURE A SMOOTH TRANSITION FOR ALL STUDENTS. I WOULD NOW TO INTRODUCE MAC CROPPER OF CROPPER JAZZ TO PRESENT THE DETAILS AND RECOMMENDATION OF THE BOUNDARY STUDY. THANK YOU. THE BOUNDARY STUDY OBJECTIVES A COMMUNITY BASED COMPREHENSIVE STUDY TAT WAS TASKED WITH MEETING THE FOLLOWING OBJECTIVES TO REDUCE OVERCROWDING AT DEER PARK MIDDLE MAGNET SCHOOL TO CREATE VIABLE SUCCESSFUL BOUNDARIES THAT EFFICIENTLY USED CAPACITY IN ALL THE PARTICIPATING SCHOOLS AND TO MAINTAIN OR INCREASE THE STUDENT DIVERSITY AMONG PARTICIPATING SCHOOLS IN THE REGION TO REFLECT THE DIVERSITY OF THE REGION AND SCHOOL SYSTEM. NEXT SLIDE

PLEASE. >> AS AS WAS MENTIONED WE ALWAYS GUIDED THE COMMITTEE TO TO ADHERE TO THE RULE 1280 AS THEY CONSIDERED BOUNDARY CHANGE CHANGES FOR PARTICULAR AREA IN THE STUDY AREA. THESE PRIMARY CONSIDERATIONS TO MAKE EFFICIENT USE OF CAPACITY IN AFFECTED SCHOOLS AND MAINTAIN OR INCREASE DIVERSITY AMONG SCHOOLS TO REFLECT THE DIVERSITY OF THE REGION AND THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OTHER CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE GUIDED THE COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT AND CONSIDER WERE TO MAINTAIN THE CONTINUITY OF NEIGHBORHOODS TO MINIMAL TO THE IMPACT OF BE MINDFUL OF THE IMPACT OF TRANSPORTATION AND PEDESTRIAN ON STUDENTS TO MINIMIZE THE NUMBER OF TIMES ANY INDIVIDUALS STUDENTS ARE REASSIGNED BE MINDFUL OF LONG TERM ENROLLMENT CAPACITY AND FUTURE CAPITAL PLANS TO NOT ONLY LOOK AT STUDENTS NOW BUT LOOK AT BE MINDFUL OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE. LOCATION OF FEEDER BOUNDARIES AND CONTINUITY OF FEEDER PATTERNS PHASING IN BOUNDARIES CHANGES BY GRADE LEVEL FOR HIGH SCHOOLS WHICH DIDN'T APPLY SINCE WE WERE FOCUSED SOLELY ON MIDDLE SCHOOL BOUNDARY CHANGES IN THIS EFFORT AND OTHER CONSIDERATIONS THAT ADHERE TO BEST PRACTICES IN THE INDUSTRY USING GEOGRAPHIC FEATURES SUCH AS RAILROADS, CREEKS AND MAJOR HIGHWAYS WHEN DESIGNING BOUNDARY CHANGES OR LOOKING AT WHERE TO TO FOLLOW THE LAW. THE LINES IN ADDITION TO THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT SUPPORT IN THE EAST ESL STRATEGIC PLAN OBJECTIVE OF RETURNING STUDENTS FROM THE EAST SO ESL CENTERS HOME SCHOOLS. NEXT SLIDE THE COMMITTEE WAS REPRESENTED VERY WELL BROAD BASED MADE UP OF PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE STUDY AREA. THERE WERE 21 MEMBERS 16 OF THOSE WERE VOTING MEMBERS. WE HAD FIVE PRINCIPALS ON THE COMMITTEE AND THOSE WERE NON-VOTING MEMBERS, FIVE TEACHER AND STAFF REPRESENTATIVES, TEN PARENTS WHICH ARE TWO PARENTS FROM EACH SCHOOL AND THEN AN AREA EDUCATIONAL COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE. WE ASKED THE COMMITTEE TO ALWAYS THEY GET AROUND THE TABLE AT THESE COMMITTEE MEETINGS TO FOCUS ON WHAT'S BEST FOR ALL CHILDREN IN THE STUDY AREA, SUSPEND THEIR PAROCHIAL INTERESTS NOT FOCUS ON WHAT'S BEST FOR THEIR CHILD OR THEIR SCHOOL OR NEIGHBORHOOD BUT WHAT'S BEST FOR ALL CHILDREN IN THE STUDY AREA AS THEY WORK TOWARDS A RECOMMENDATION WE ASK THE COMMITTEE TO PARTICIPATE IN ALL OUR MEETINGS IF POSSIBLE AND THAT THEY ARE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE COMMUNITY BUT ALONG THAT THAT THEY PROVIDE INPUT AS IT RELATES TO WHAT THINGS ARE LIKE IN THEIR COMMUNITY WHERE HOW IS TRAFFIC WALKABLE AREAS JUST THINGS FROM THE ON THE LOCAL PERSPECTIVE THAT WE MAY NOT KNOW THAT THEY COULD PARTICIPATE AND PROVIDE INPUT ON. THEY HELD FIVE COMMITTEE MEETINGS FROM SEPTEMBER TO NOVEMBER AND THEY EXCLUSIVELY WITH EACH OTHER. THE PUBLIC WAS ALWAYS OFFERED THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND OBSERVE MEETINGS BUT THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THOSE COMMITTEE MEETINGS AND THEN FINALLY THE COMMITTEE WAS IS IS WITH PRESENTING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD OF EDUCATION VIA THE CHIEF OF SCHOOLS SCHOOLS. SO IN REGARDING PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AND INPUT LETTERS WERE SENT TO ALL FAMILIES AND MAY 22 REGARDING THE PROCESS FOLLOWED BY ADDITIONAL OUTREACH FROM SCHOOLS THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS THE FOCUS TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT'S HAPPENING AND, THAT THE PROCESS IS UPCOMING SO THAT WE CAN ENABLE PARTICIPATION. THE PUBLIC WAS INVITED TO ATTEND ALL MEETINGS LIKE I MENTIONED AND THEY COULD OBSERVE IN PERSON AND ALL MEETINGS WERE LIVE STREAMED ON THE BCP WEBSITE. VIDEO RECORDINGS OF THOSE MEETINGS WERE ALSO SAVED AND CONVERTED INTO YOUTUBE CLIPS AND SO ANYBODY CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT PRIOR MEETINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO SEE WHAT WAS DISCUSSED AND WHAT WAS HOW. THE COMMITTEE DELIBERATED ON VARIOUS ISSUES