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THIS IS CHAIRWOMAN JANE LICHTER.
I CALL TO ORDER THE MEETING OF THE BOARD OF EDUCATION OF BALTIMORE COUNTY FOR TUESDAY, APRIL 21ST, 2026.
THIS EVENING'S BOARD OF EDUCATION MEETING IS BEING BROADCAST THROUGH THE BCPS ONLINE LIVE MEETING BROADCAST AND ON BCPS TV, XFINITY CHANNEL 1 0 7 3 AND VERIZON FIOS, CHANNEL 34.
IN ORDER TO EFFICIENTLY CONDUCT THIS MEETING, ALL VOTING ITEMS THIS EVENING WILL BE DONE BY ROLL CALL VOTE.
[A. CLOSED SESSION]
GO INTO CLOSED SESSION AS PERMITTED BY THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT AS FOUND IN THE ANNOTATED CODE OF MARYLAND GENERAL PROVISIONS ARTICLE THREE DASH 3 0 5 B ONE B SEVEN, AND B EIGHT TO DISCUSS THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT ASSIGNMENT PROMOTION, DISCIPLINED DEMOTION, COMPENSATION REMOVAL, RESIGNATION OR PERFORMANCE EVALUATION OF APPOINTEES, EMPLOYEES OR OFFICIALS OVER WHOM IT HAS JURISDICTION OR ANY OTHER PERSONNEL MATTER THAT AFFECTS ONE OR MORE SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS CONDUCT.CONSULT WITH COUNSEL TO OBTAIN LEGAL ADVICE AND CONSULT WITH STAFF, CONSULTANTS, OR OTHER INDIVIDUALS ABOUT PENDING OR POTENTIAL LITIGATION.
MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE PLEASE.
THIS IS CHAIRWOMAN JANE LICHTER.
I NOW CALL TO ORDER THE MEETING OF THE BOARD OF EDUCATION OF BALTIMORE COUNTY FOR TUESDAY, APRIL 21ST, 2026.
[B. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE/SILENT MEDITATION (6:30 p.m.)]
INVITE YOU TO RECITE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG TO BE LED BY MS. FORSYTH ONGA, AND WE WILL THEN HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND RECOGNITION OF THOSE WHO HAVE SERVED EDUCATION IN BALTIMORE COUNTY TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.TONIGHT'S BOARD OF EDUCATION MEETING IS BEING HELD BROADCAST THROUGH THE BC BASS ONLINE LIVE MEETING BROADCAST XFINITY CHANNEL 1 0 7 3 AND VERIZON BUYERS CHANNEL 34.
IN ORDER TO OF EFFICIENTLY CONDUCT THIS MEETING, ALL VOTING ITEMS THIS EVENING WILL BE DONE BY ROLL CALL VOTE.
[C. AGENDA (6:35 p.m.)]
THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE CONSIDERATION OF THE APRIL 21ST AGENDA, AND FOR THAT I CALL ON MR. YOUNG MADAM CHAIR.I MOVE TO ADD CONTRACT GDA DASH 315 DASH 26, EXECUTIVE SEARCH FIRM FOR SUPERINTENDENT UNDER NEW BUSINESS CONTRACT AWARDS AS EXHIBIT N 20.
ARE THERE ANY MORE ADDITIONS OR CHANGES TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA? I'M UNAWARE OF ANY ADDITIONAL CHANGES.
MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THE ADDITION OF THE CONTRACT? MS. GROVER? MR. YOUNG? YES.
JUST, I'M SORRY, THERE'S JUST SOMETHING MISSING.
EARLIER THIS EVENING, THE BOARD MET ENCLOSED SESSION PURSUANT TO THE OPENS MEETING ACT FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS TO DISCUSS THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT ASSIGNMENT, PROMOTION, DISCIPLINE, DEMOTION, COMPENSATION, REMOVAL, RESIGNATION OR PERFORMANCE EVALUATION OF APPOINTEES, EMPLOYEES OR OFFICIALS OVER WHOM IT HAS JURISDICTION OR ANY OTHER PERSONNEL MATTER THAT AFFECTS ONE OR MORE SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS.
CONSULT WITH COUNSEL TO OBTAIN LEGAL ADVICE AND CONSULT WITH STAFF, CONSULTANTS OR OTHER INDIVIDUALS ABOUT PENDING OR POTENTIAL LITIGATION.
THE CLOSED SESSION SUMMARY AND THE OPEN SESSION INFORMATION SUMMARY CAN BE FOUND ON BOARD DOCS UNDER THIS BOARD MEETING AGENDA DATE.
[D. NEW BUSINESS - PERSONNEL MATTERS (Mr. McCall) (6:45 - 6:50 p.m.)]
ON THE AGENDA IS PERSONNEL MATTERS, AND FOR THAT I CALL ON MR. MCCALL.[00:05:02]
OKAY.GOOD EVENING, CHAIR, TER, SUPERINTENDENT DR. ROGERS AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I'D LIKE THE BOARD'S CONSENT FOR THE FOLLOWING PERSONNEL MATTERS.
WE HAVE RETIREMENTS, RESIGNATIONS, NON-RENEWALS, LEAVES, ETHICS REVIEW, PANEL MEMBER APPOINTMENT, AND EDUCATED LICENSURE APPOINTMENTS.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PERSONNEL MATTERS AS PRESENTED EXHIBITS D ONE THROUGH D SIX, SO YOUNG.
THANK YOU MR. YOUNG AND MS. LESKI.
ANY DISCUSSION? MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL THOUGH, PLEASE? MR. YOUNG? YES.
[E. PUBLIC COMMENT (6:50 - 7:20 p.m.)]
IS PUBLIC COMMENT.THIS IS ONE OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THE BOARD PROVIDES TO HEAR THE VIEWS AND RECEIVE THE ADVICE OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
IF NOT SELECTED TO ADDRESS THE BOARD, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY SUBMIT THEIR COMMENTS TO THE BOARD MEMBERS VIA EMAIL@BOEATBCPS.ORG.
THE BALTIMORE COUNTY POLICE DEPARTMENT'S HOMELAND SECURITY UNIT AND OFFICE OF SCHOOL SAFETY HAS RECOMMENDED SAFETY AND SECURITY PROTOCOLS, WHICH ARE POSTED ON THE BOARDROOM AND AVAILABLE IN BOARD DOCS AND ON THE BOARD'S PARTICIPATION BY THE PUBLIC WEBSITE.
WHILE WE ENCOURAGE PUBLIC INPUT ON POLICY PROGRAMS AND PRACTICES WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THIS BOARD AND THIS SCHOOL SYSTEM, THIS IS NOT THE PROPER FORUM TO ADDRESS SPECIFIC STUDENT OR EMPLOYEE MATTERS OR TO COMMENT ON MATTERS THAT DO NOT RELATE TO PUBLIC EDUCATION IN BALTIMORE COUNTY.
INAPPROPRIATE PERSONAL REMARKS OR OTHER BEHAVIORS SUCH AS LANGUAGE THAT PROMOTES VIOLENCE AGAINST A-B-C-P-S EMPLOYEE OR THAT DISRUPTS OR INTERFERES WITH THE CONDUCT OF THIS MEETING OR OUT OF ORDER AND WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.
PERSONS WHO OTHERWISE DISRUPT OR DISTURB THIS MEETING WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE THEIR REMARKS AND WILL BE ESCORTED FROM THE MEETING.
PLEASE OBSERVE THE THREE MINUTE CLOCK, WHICH WILL LET YOU KNOW WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP.
THE MICROPHONE WILL BE TURNED OFF AT THE END OF YOUR TIME OR PRIOR TO THAT TIME AT THE DISCRETION OF THE BOARD CHAIR.
WE'RE GONNA START WITH OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM AFFILIATED GROUPS, AND OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS MARY CROW FROM NOTTINGHAM MIDDLE SCHOOL.
MY NAME IS MARY CROW AND I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE NOTTINGHAM MIDDLE SCHOOL PTO AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS, MANY OF WHOM ARE HERE TONIGHT.
IN DECEMBER, I SHARED CONCERNS ABOUT THE LOSS OF CRITICAL SUPPORTS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED TO STUDENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND MADE TWO REQUESTS.
FIRST, WE ASKED DR. ROGERS TO SEND A LETTER TO MSDE REQUESTING THAT NOTTINGHAM BE ADDED TO THE 25 26 LOW PERFORMING SCHOOLS LIST.
MSDE HAS MADE CLEAR THAT THIS LETTER, ALONG WITH SUPPORTING DATA, WHICH WE HAVE ALREADY COMPILED, IS ALL THAT IS NEEDED TO BEGIN THEIR APPEALS PROCESS.
DESPITE STATEMENTS OF SUPPORT, WE WERE INFORMED IN FEBRUARY THAT BCPS WILL NOT BE SENDING THE LETTER.
THE LPS DESIGNATION IS INTENDED TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN NATIONALLY BOARD CERTIFIED TEACHERS THROUGH AN ANNUAL STIPEND IN SCHOOLS IDENTIFIED WITH THE GREATEST NEED.
NOTTINGHAM CANNOT AFFORD TO LOSE THESE EDUCATORS.
AFTER SIGNIFICANT STAFF TURNOVER LAST YEAR AND ADDITIONAL PO POSITION CUTS AHEAD, WE ARE AT RISK OF LOSING MORE OF OUR STRONGEST TEACHERS, THOSE WHO SERVE AS LEADERS IN OUR BUILDING AND PROVIDE CRITICAL STABILITY FOR OUR STUDENTS.
OUR SECOND REQUEST WAS FOR A COMMUNITY SCHOOL'S DESIGNATION.
BCPS WAS WERE WAS ORIGINALLY EXPECTING NOTTINGHAM TO QUALIFY FOR THE 26 27 SCHOOL YEAR BASED ON TWO YEARS OF DATA SIMILAR TO ROSSVILLE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
HOWEVER, WE WERE TOLD WE DO NOT QUALIFY DUE TO AN AVERAGE THAT WE BELIEVE INCLUDES INACCURATE DATA FROM THE START OF LAST SCHOOL YEAR WHEN OUR ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED RATE WAS REPORTED AT 41%.
OUR ACTUAL NUMBERS ROSE QUICKLY IN THE FOLLOWING MONTHS TO 68% AND CURRENTLY STAND AT 67% THIS YEAR.
GIVEN THAT OUR TOTAL ENROLLMENT LAST YEAR CHANGED BY FEWER THAN 20 STUDENTS, A MIDYEAR INCREASE OF 449 STUDENTS QUALIFYING AS ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED IS NOT PLAUSIBLE.
THE DISCREPANCY WAS SHARED WITH BCPS AND MSDE IN FEBRUARY, BUT TO OUR KNOWLEDGE, IT HAS NOT BEEN CORRECTED SINCE.
REVIEWING THE NEWS THAT NOTTINGHAM WILL NOT BE A DESIGNATED COMMUNITY SCHOOL, B-C-P-A-S HAS REACHED OUT TO OFFER SUPPORT THROUGH COLLABORATION WITH THE FACILITATORS AT OUR FEEDER SCHOOLS, EVERY
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SINGLE ONE OF WHICH IS A QUALIFYING COMMUNITY SCHOOL.ADDITIONALLY, WE WERE OFFERED AN EDA STIPEND FOR A TEACHER TO HELP COORDINATE THESE EFFORTS.
WE APPRECIATE THESE ATTEMPTS TO PROVIDE SUPPORT AND WILL ALWAYS WELCOME ADDITIONAL RESOURCES.
HOWEVER, THIS IS NOT A REPLACEMENT FOR A FULL-TIME COMMUNITY SCHOOL DESIGNATION WITH A 12 MONTH FULL-TIME COMMUNITY SCHOOL FACILITATOR.
BEFORE WE SHIFT OUR FOCUS TO ACCOMMODATING THIS, OUR COMMUNITY IS ASKING FOR THE COUNTY SUPPORT IN ADVOCATING TO CORRECT WHAT WE BELIEVE IS A MISTAKE.
WE ASK THAT YOU SEND A LETTER TO MSCE.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS EDWIN PEREZ FROM THE BALTIMORE COUNTY PTA COUNCIL.
WELL, I'LL HAVE TO SPEAK FROM THE, FROM MY HEART THEN.
MY NAME IS, UH, GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE BALTIMORE COUNTY.
PTA COUNCIL HAS BOTH THE CHAIR OF THE MULTILINGUAL COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP AND THE CHAIR OF THE, UH, EQUITY DIVERSITY INCLUSION COMMITTEE.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE BALTIMORE COUNTY PT A COUNCIL HAS BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF IMMIGRANT ADVOCACY IN OUR SCHOOLS AND HAS BEEN PRESENT HERE AT THE COUNCIL MANY TIMES TO, UH, PROMOTE ADVOCACY AND PROTECTIONS, INCREASE PROTECTIONS FOR OUR STUDENTS.
WE'VE ALSO BEEN PRESENT AT THE BALTIMORE COUNTY COUNCIL MEETINGS AS WELL TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY TRUST ACT AS WELL AS THE OFFICE OF IMMIGRANT AFFAIRS.
WHERE WE'RE ASKING FOR TONIGHT IS TO CONTINUE THIS FIGHT FOR OUR STUDENTS WHO ARE IMMIGRANTS AND SUPPORTING, UH, POLICIES NOW AND IN THE FUTURE THAT WILL CREATE ENVIRONMENTS FOR ALL OF THEM TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND FEEL SAFE IN OUR SCHOOLS.
WHEN OUR STUDENTS FEEL THE WEIGHT AND THE PRESSURE OF NOT BEING ABLE TO GO HOME TO SEE THEIR FAMILIES OR HEARING STORIES ABOUT THEIR FRIENDS, UH, AFFECTED BY IMMIGRANTS AND ADVOCACY, THAT PUTS A A BURDEN ON THEM.
IT CHALLENGES THEM WHEN THEY'RE IN SCHOOL.
THEY, UH, BECOME DISTRACTED AND THEY LOSE A FOCUS THAT WE ALL KNOW IS NECESSARY FOR OUR CLASSROOMS AND TO HAVE A SAFE AND EFFECTIVE SCHOOL ENVIRONMENT.
WE ENCOURAGE, UH, THE BOARD TONIGHT TO CONSIDER, AGAIN, UH, CREATING PRIVACY MEASURES SO THAT OUR STUDENT'S INFORMATION IS PROTECTED, CREATING ACCESS PROTECTION SO THAT, UH, ANY, UH, ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL THAT YOU ENTER THE BUILDING, UH, ARE USING, UH, PROPER JUDICIAL WARRANTS.
AND LASTLY, TO CREATE, AGAIN, A SENSE OF ENVIRONMENT THAT'S PROTECTIVE AND SAFE FOR ALL OF OUR STUDENTS, REGARDLESS OF THEIR STATUS.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE NATIONAL PTA COUNCIL HAS A POSITION, POSITION ON, UH, IMMIGRATION ADVOCACY THAT IS BASED OFF OF PLYLER V VIDO, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY THAT SCHOOLS ARE OPEN AND ACCESSIBLE TO ALL STUDENTS, AND ALL STUDENTS SHOULD BE, UH, SAFE AND YOU'LL WELCOME OUR SCHOOLS.
WE ENCOURAGE, AGAIN, THE BOARD OF EDUCATION TO FOLLOW THIS POLICY AND TO CONTINUE PROVIDING SPACE SAFE SPACES FOR ALL OF OUR STUDENTS.
OUR NEXT CATEGORY ARE UNIONS, AND OUR SPEAKER IS MS. S.
CHAIR LICHTER, DR. ROGERS AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT.
UM, I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT TWO TOPICS TONIGHT, BUT I'M REALLY ONLY TALKING ABOUT ONE.
OUR STUDENTS, THE CHILDREN OF BALTIMORE COUNTY, FIRST PROPOSED BOARD POLICY 1250.
AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, OUR ROLE AS EDUCATORS AND AS A SCHOOL SYSTEM IS TO ENSURE THAT CHILDREN FEEL SAFE SO THAT THEY'RE READY TO LEARN.
IT IS NOT TO ENFORCE CIV CIVIL IMMIGRATION LAW ANYMORE THAN IT IS TO ENFORCE CRIMINAL LAWS.
PROPOSED POLICY 1250 REMOVES EDUCATORS FROM IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT AND ENSURES THAT ALL STAFF KNOW THE BASIC POLICY SHOULD IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT AGENTS COME TO SCHOOLS.
IMMIGRATION CAN BE A COMPLEX TOPIC, THOUGH IN THIS SETTING IN AND AROUND SCHOOLS.
WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT IS CONTROVERSIAL TO SAY THAT SCHOOLS HAVE A JOB TO DO, AND THAT JOB IS NOT IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT.
A POLICY LIKE THIS ENSURES THAT WE CAN ALL WORK TOGETHER TO KEEP EDUCATING OUR STUDENTS, THE CHILDREN OF OUR COUNTY.
ON THE OTHER TOPIC, WHICH AS I SAID, IS REALLY STILL STUDENTS, I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT STAFFING.
WE ARE PLEASED THAT COUNTY EXECUTIVE MEYER WAS ABLE TO FUND ADDITIONAL RESOURCES AND SAVE 140 POSITIONS.
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WE STILL FACE THE LOSS OF OVER 350 POSITIONS, AND GIVEN THE TIME IN THE SCHOOL YEAR, BCPS IS SCRAMBLING TO MOVE PEOPLE AROUND, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS WE ASK THE BOARD TO HELP MAKE SURE THAT AS THIS PROCESS CONTINUES, IT IS DONE FAIRLY AND TRANSPARENTLY IN A WAY THAT TABCO AND THE OTHER UNIONS ARE KEPT IN A LOOP ON HOW THESE HARD DECISIONS ARE BEING MADE.AND SO TOGETHER WE CAN LIMIT THE HARM THAT IS ALREADY BEING DONE BY THESE MASSIVE CUTS AND MOVES, BOTH PERFOR, BOTH PROPOSED BOARD POLICY 1250, AND OUR WORK TO REDUCE THE SIZE AND IMPACT OF THESE CUTS, OUR EFFORTS TO PROTECT OUR STUDENTS.
WHEN STUDENTS AND STAFF ARE SCARED AND CONFUSED WHEN THEIR COMMUNITIES INSIDE AND OUTSIDE OF THE SCHOOL ARE BEING THREATENED, IT IS A BARRIER TO STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT.
LET'S WORK TOGETHER TO REDUCE THESE IMPACTS.
PASS BOARD POLICY 1250 AND HELP PROVIDE INSIGHT OVER THE MASSIVE TRANSFER PROCESS THAT IS CURRENTLY HAPPENING IN THE FIELD.
OUR STUDENTS CALL FOR US TO DO THIS WORK.
OUR NEXT CATEGORY ARE INDIVIDUAL STUDENTS OR CITIZENS, AND OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS SHARON SOFF.
AND ON THE TOPIC OF SAFETY, I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT SAFETY IN REGARDS TO SPECIAL ED AND MAKING APPROPRIATE DECISIONS, WHICH INCLUDE CLASS SIZE.
IT IS INAPPROPRIATE, FOR INSTANCE, TO REQUEST MORE THAN THREE QUARTERS OF A YEAR'S WORTH OF DATA TO PLACE A STUDENT IN THE APPROPRIATE PLACEMENT WHEN THEY ARE LEAVING A CLASSROOM OF 28 KIDS ON AN AVERAGE OF 10 TIMES A DAY.
THAT IS NOT FAPE, THAT IS NOT SAFE.
TAKING SAFETY INVOLVED, AND IT'S NOT TAKING LEARNING INTO CONSIDERATION.
THAT'S WHAT I DEAL WITH ON A DAILY BASIS WITH SOME OF MY CLIENTS.
IF I HAVE A CHILD OR CHILDREN IN MY CLASSROOM, AGAIN, BECAUSE THERE'S TOO MANY IN THE IN THE ROOM AND I'M BEING HIT BIT KICKED, ISN'T THAT A SAFETY ISSUE? WHY AREN'T WE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT THAT IN A TIMELY MANNER? WHY DO DECISIONS NEED A YEAR'S WORTH OF DATA TO MAKE A DECISION? I RAISED THE ISSUE LAST TIME I WAS HERE OF A CHILD WHO CAME HOME WITH HER CLOTHING CUT KINDERGARTNER, OKAY? THE PARENT WAS NOT NOTIFIED.
BUT THE FACT THAT A CHILD WITH A DISABILITY GOT A HOLD OF A SCISSORS AND IT WASN'T NOTICED UNTIL SHE CUT HER CLOTHES, THAT'S AN EXTREME SAFETY ISSUE.
THIS IS NOT GONNA BE RESOLVED BY CUTTING, BY CUTTING STAFF, INCREASING CLASS SIZE, WE NEED TO MAKE MORE APPROPRIATE DECISIONS.
NOW, I'M GOING TO RAISE ONE OTHER ITEM THAT I KNOW IS NOT GONNA BE EASILY SOLVED, BUT IT IS ALSO A SAFETY ISSUE WITH REGARDS TO STAFF WITH DISABILITIES.
I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A SERIOUS LOOK AT HOW BUILDINGS ARE SET UP.
IF MY PARKING SPACE IS AROUND THE CORNER FROM THE MAIN ENTRANCE WHERE THE MAIN OFFICE IS, AND I CANNOT WALK STEPS OR I CAN'T WALK THAT DISTANCE, THAT'S A PROBLEM.
AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO START TAKING A REAL LOOK AT HOW OUR BUILDINGS ARE SET UP, BECAUSE THAT'S ALSO A SAFETY ISSUE.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS DONALD WHITBY.
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND DR. ROGERS.
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MY NAME IS DONALD WHITBY AND I'M A PROUD BCPS ALUMNI, AND I'VE BEEN EMPLOYED AS A SECONDARY SCHOOL LIBRARY MEDIA SPECIALIST FOR THE LAST 25 YEARS.I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT IN WHICH MY FELLOW MEDIA SPECIALISTS ARE VERY HAPPY NATIONAL LIBRARY WEEK, AND I INVITE ALL BOARD MEMBERS TO VISIT SCHOOL LIBRARIES TO SEE THE IMPACTFUL WORK THAT WE ARE DOING WITH OUR STUDENTS.
THE SECONDARY SCHOOL LMS POSITION HAS ALWAYS BEEN A FULL-TIME 1.0 FTE POSITION, AND OUR SCHEDULE HAS ALWAYS BEEN FLEXIBLE.
HAVING A FLEXIBLE SCHEDULE IS THE GUIDANCE PROVIDED BY A A SL FOR SECONDARY SCHOOLS, BECAUSE LMS ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE INSTRUCTION, COLLABORATION, AND SUPPORT TO EVERY STUDENT AND TEACHER IN THE BUILDING.
THIS SCHOOL YEAR, I HAVE TAUGHT OVER 200 CLASSES ACROSS ALL THREE GRADE LEVELS, AND MY LIBRARY IS ON PACE TO CHECK OUT OVER 5,000 BOOKS.
THE PAST COUPLE OF BUDGET CYCLES HAVE BEEN VERY TOUGH FOR BCPS LAST YEAR.
BCPS ADOPTED THE PRACTICE OF REMOVING THE SECONDARY SCHOOL LMS FROM THEIR FULL-TIME ROLE TO FILL STAFFING SHORTAGES IN OTHER CONTENT AREAS AND ELECTIVE COURSES.
THIS PRACTICE IS NOT SUSTAINABLE FOR THE SYSTEM TO DEAL WITH STAFFING SHORTAGES, AND IT CREATES INE EQUITABLE ACCESS TO LIBRARY SERVICES IN OUR SECONDARY SCHOOLS FOR OUR STUDENTS AND TEACHERS.
WHEN A SECONDARY LMS TEACHES TWO CONTENT CLASSES, THE LMS IS NOT JUST ADDED TO THE SCHEDULE.
THE LMS IS ALSO REMOVED FROM PROVIDING INSTRUCTION, COLLABORATION, AND SUPPORT FOR EVERY OTHER STUDENT AND TEACHER IN THE BUILDING DURING THOSE FIXED PERIODS FOR THE ENTIRE SCHOOL YEAR.
DECADES OF RESEARCH SHOW THAT SCHOOLS WITH FULL-TIME CERTIFIED LIBRARIANS HAVE HIGHER READING ACHIEVEMENT, STRONGER LITERACY OUTCOMES, AND HIGHER STANDARDIZED TEST SCORES.
LAST WEEK, PRINCIPALS WERE TOLD THAT ALL SECONDARY LMS MUST MUST TEACH TWO CLASSES NEXT YEAR.
THIS IS THE EXACT OPPOSITE GUIDANCE PROVIDED BY THE BOARD.
WHEN THE MOTION WAS APPROVED TO RESTORE SECONDARY LMS TO FULL-TIME, THERE WERE NO PUBLIC REPORTS OF ANY CUTS TO THE AMENDED BUDGET BY THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE.
SO THE TEACHING POSITIONS REQUIRED TO BE RESTORED BY THE APPROVED MOTION SHOULD STILL BE FUNDED BY REDUCTIONS MADE IN OTHER AREAS OF THE AMENDED BUDGET.
BCPS ALSO RECEIVED AN ADDITIONAL $9.3 MILLION FROM THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE TO RESTORE 140.3 CRITICAL SCHOOL-BASED POSITIONS.
THIS ADDITIONAL FUNDING COULD HAVE ALSO BEEN USED TO RESTORE THE TEACHING POSITIONS REQUIRED BY THE APPROVED MOTION BOARD POLICY.
6,200 CLEARLY STATES THAT CERTIFIED LMS SERVE A CRITICAL ROLE IN SUPPORTING STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT.
THERE DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE A LACK OF FUNDING AVAILABLE TO FUND THE MOTION THAT WAS PASSED BY THE BOARD.
INSTEAD, IT APPEARS THERE'S BEEN A DECISION MADE BY BCPS TO NOT FUND THE MOTION AND TO FUND OTHER PRIORITIES OF THE SCHOOL SYSTEM FIRST, WHICH IS INCONGRUENT WITH THE GUIDANCE PROVIDED BY THE BOARD.
I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE BOARD TO PROVIDE CLARITY RELATED TO THE FUNDING OF THE MOTION, AND TO ENCOURAGE THE SYSTEM TO RESTORE THE SECONDARY LMS POSITION TO FULL-TIME.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL MEMBERS OF THE BOARD FOR YOUR TIME AND EFFORT IN SUPPORT OF OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM AND SCHOOL LIBRARIES.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS RAMONA BUSILLO.
MEMBERS OF BOARD CHAIRMAN LICHTER, SUPERINTENDENT ROGERS.
I COME TO YOU AS A COMMUNITY MEMBER AND ALSO AN ADVOCATE FOR SERVICE LEARNING LAST JANUARY, UM, AND REALLY IN DECEMBER, WE SPOKE ABOUT SERVICE LEARNING.
WE TALKED ABOUT COMMUNITY SERVICE LEARNING AS IT AFFECTS GRADUATING SENIORS, ESPECIALLY STUDENTS WHO HAVE TO ACHIEVE THEIR SERVICE LEARNING HOURS, MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE ACADEMIC REQUIREMENT, AND ALSO PASS A BATTERY OF TESTS.
I'M HERE BECAUSE THIS WEEK IS YOUTH SERVICE WEEK.
WE HAVE ABOUT 13 STUDENTS AT SCHOOLS THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT PARTICIPATING IN SERVICE LEARNING PROJECTS.
THE PTA COUNCIL ESTABLISHED THIS YEAR, A PILOT PROGRAM AND A PARTNERSHIP AROUND SERVICE LEARNING WITH 130 UNITS.
WE ARE WELL POSITIONED AS NONPROFIT TO CREATE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES FOR STUDENTS.
I KNOW THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO SAY, WELL, SERVICE LEARNING IS NOT A CONCERN.
SERVICE LEARNING IS NOT MY BUSINESS.
WAIT UNTIL THE STUDENTS GET TO HIGH SCHOOL.
I WANNA SHARE THAT MARYLAND IS THE ONLY AND THE FIRST STATE TO REQUIRE SERVICE LEARNING AS A GRADUATION REQUIREMENT.
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LET'S BE THE FIRST TO REALLY, REALLY SUPPORT OUR STUDENTS.WE'RE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE OFFICE OF FAMILY AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WITH STACEY WADE IN THE OFFICE OF SERVICE LEARNING.
WHAT WE WANNA DO IS REALLY RAISED RAISE, RAISE, RAISE THE BAR ON THE IMPORTANCE OF SERVICE LEARNING.
I MET A STUDENT JUST THE OTHER DAY WHO COMPLETED ALL OF HER HOURS WHILE IN MIDDLE SCHOOL.
WHEN SHE GOT TO HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH SHE'S NOW GRADUATING, SHE WAS ABLE TO FOCUS ON HER ACADEMIC GRADES AND SHE IS GOING TO MEDICAL SCHOOL.
WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS SERVICE LEARNING IS NOT A NICE THING TO DO.
WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS NOT ONLY IS IT REQUIRED BY THE STATE AND LAW, I CAN'T DRINK MY WATER, BUT YOU KNOW, I LOSE MY VOICE.
IT ALSO IS SOMETHING THAT WILL PROVIDE AN ETHIC OF SERVICE AT MIDDLE SCHOOL AND BEYOND.
I'M HERE, AND THEN IN THE FALL WE'LL TALK AGAIN ABOUT HOW WE CAN ENGAGE MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS AT AN EARLIER LEVEL IN SERVICE LEARNING SO THAT IT BE A LIGHTER LIFT FOR OUR STUDENTS WHEN THEY GET TO HIGH SCHOOL.
AND QUICKLY, WHILE I HAVE A COUPLE OF MINUTES, I WANNA GIVE AN UPDATE ON A CELL PHONE.
THE BAN HAS HAPPENED, IT IS BELL TO BELL, AND THEN ONE STUDENT SAID A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, JUST DO IT.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
AS YOU KNOW, THE 449 SESSION, UH, HAS FINISHED IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, AND, UM, HALF THE BILLS HAVE PASSED.
ONE OF THE GOOD DELEGATES THAT REPRESENT BALTIMORE COUNTY, UH, REPORTED THAT SHE GOT FUNDS FOR RIDGELEY MIDDLE SCHOOL AND, UH, FOR TWO OTHER SCHOOLS IN THE AREA.
ONE IS FOR DIGITAL DEVICE AND THE OTHER ONE IS, UH, DIGITAL DEVICE TO HELP, UH, UH, CHALLENGED PERSONS AND THE OTHER ONE FOR SOMETHING LIKE A, UH, BOARD OR SO.
AND IT STRUCK ME THAT EVEN THOUGH THE GOOD DELEGATE, WHOM I RESPECT AND SUPPORT IS TRULY TRYING IN HER LETTER TO SHOW ALL OF US CITIZENS THAT SHE'S WORKING FOR THE COMMUNITY, UH, BUT REALLY FOR THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
AND I KNOW YOU ALREADY HEARD THAT BEFORE ME.
WE ARE SHORT OF FUNDS EVERY YEAR FOR THE PAST 30 YEARS THAT I HAVE BEEN ENGAGED IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE EFFECT OF THE POLITICIANS ON SCHOOL POLICIES BASICALLY AFFECT AND HAMPER, UM, YOUR ABILITY TO EDUCATE.
SO WHAT I PROPOSE TO YOU IS TO BE AN ACTIVIST BOARD BECAUSE IN 30 YEARS, SINCE ARY ERA, ALL THE WAY TO DR. ROGERS AS THE SAME RESULT, YOU ARE GIVEN PENICILLIN EVERY YEAR AND NOT WORKING.
YOU NEED A REGIME CHANGE WHERE YOU ARE INDEPENDENT.
THE COUNTY COLLECTS EDUCATION FUNDS AND GIVE IT TO YOU.
THE STATES COLLECT EDUCATION FUNDS AND GIVE IT TO YOU.
AND IF YOU WANT TO BUILD MORE SCHOOLS, HIRE MORE TEACHERS.
YOUR CONNECTION IS BASICALLY WITH THE TAXPAYER.
IF THE TAXPAYER APPROVE FUNDING, 500 POSITIONS OF TEACHERS LET IT BE.
IF THEY DON'T, YOU HAVE TO MANAGE.
YOU KEEP DOING THE SAME THING, AND I BET YOU WILL HIRE A NEW
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SUPERINTENDENT.OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ALICE WESCO.
I THANK THE BOARD FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU, UM, ON A THEME THAT'S BEEN MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES ALREADY THIS EVENING, I'M A CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST, RETIRED, AND SCHOOL IS A CHILD'S FIRST SEGUE INTO THE WORLD BEYOND THE FAMILY SYSTEM.
BEFORE, BEFORE THEY GO OUT, THEY HIT SCHOOL FIRST.
AND THAT EXPERIENCE, SHOULD IT BE TRAUMATIC, IS GOING TO BE WITH THEM FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES.
IT WILL COLOR THEIR VIEW OF THEMSELVES.
IT WILL COVER THEIR TRUST IN OTHER PEOPLE, PARTICULARLY AUTHORITY PEOPLE.
IT WILL, UM, MAKE THEM SO AFRAID THAT THEY WILL BE ANXIOUS FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES.
A CHILD WHO IS REMOVED FROM SCHOOL BY ICE IS, IS A VERY SCARRED, SCARRED CHILD.
AND, AND THAT CAN LAST THEIR LIVES UNLESS THEY HAVE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT.
UM, SEEING A COLLEAGUE, A COLLEAGUE, A SEEING A BUDDY, SOMEONE THEY RIDE THE SCHOOL BUS WITH, PULLED AWAY FROM THE SCHOOL BY AN ICE AGENT, IS GOING TO REMEMBER THAT FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES.
AND A BRAIN THAT IS OVERCOME WITH FEAR CANNOT LEARN.
THE BRAIN IS NOT AVAILABLE TO LEARN WHEN IT IS FLOODED WITH, WITH HORMONES THAT COME WITH FEAR AND TERROR.
SO NOT ONLY THE CHILD WHO IS REMOVED, BUT THE CHILDREN WHO WITNESS IT, WHO HEAR ABOUT IT THE NEXT DAY IN THE CLASSROOM, WORD TRAVELS.
THAT'S THAT'S OF SERIOUS DAMAGE TO A CHILD AND TO ALL WHO RESONATE IN THAT CHILD'S COMMUNITY.
SO I ASK YOU PLEASE, TO PROVIDE THE CHILDREN WITH EVERY PROTECTION YOU CAN POSSIBLY COME UP WITH, BECAUSE THE, UH, THE EFFECTS ARE PROFOUND.
AND I THANK YOU FOR TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN YOU SET YOUR POLICIES AND HOPEFULLY A PRIVATE SPACE FAR AWAY FROM WHERE THE CHILDREN ARE, UM, IS ESSENTIAL.
AND TO PLAN IT OUT AND MAKE SURE IT'S REHEARSED BEFORE IT HAPPENS, SO TEACHERS AREN'T JUST OUT THERE UNREHEARSED, AND, AND SUDDENLY THERE'S SOMETHING AWFUL HAPPENING.
SO THANK YOU ALL AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONCERN FOR OUR CHILDREN.
NEXT IS PUBLIC COMMENT ON BOARD POLICY 1250 IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT ACCESS TO SCHOOL BUILDINGS.
AND OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS MR. PEREZ.
THIS TIME I'M HAVING SOME TECH ISSUES.
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, CHAIR LICHTER AND SUPERINTENDENT ROGERS, DR. ROGERS.
UH, MY NAME IS RE I STAND BEFORE TONIGHT AS A CHAIR OF THE JUSTICE EQUITY DIVERSITY INCLUSION COMMITTEE FOR THE BALTIMORE COUNTY PT COUNCIL.
EVERY MORNING I LOOK INTO THE EYES OF MY STUDENTS.
I SEE THEIR DREAMS, AND I FEEL THEIR ANXIETIES.
UH, MY WORK AS AN EDUCATOR IS ROOTED IN ONE NON-NEGOTIABLE TRUTH.
IT'S THAT A CHILD CANNOT LEARN IN THE STATE OF ALERT.
I'M HERE TO SUPPORT AS PART OF THE BTA COUNCIL, THE DRAFT OF POLICY 1250.
IT RECOGNIZES THAT THE SAFETY OF IMMIGRANT STUDENTS IS NOT JUST A LEAGUE OF MATTER, IT IS A MENTAL HEALTH NECESSITY.
SPECIFICALLY, WANT TO HIGHLIGHT STANDARD E BY MANDATING THAT THE COUNSELING OFFICE ESTABLISH THE TRAUMA-INFORMED BEST PRACTICES.
THIS BOARD IS ACKNOWLEDGING A PAINFUL REALITY FOR MANY OF OUR STUDENTS IN MIXED STATUS FAMILIES.
THE FEAR OF FAMILY SEPARATION IS A CONSTANT QUIET TRAUMA.
POLICY WITHOUT EMPATHY IS JUST BUREAUCRACY.
TRAUMA-INFORMED CARE IS NOT AN ELECTIVE, BUT IT'S A PREREQUISITE FOR EDUCATION.
ENSURING THAT OUR COUNSELORS AND STAFF RECEIVE QUARTERLY TRAINING MEANS THAT WE ARE,
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WE AREN'T JUST REACTING TO A CRISIS AFTER IT HAPPENS, BUT WE ARE BUILDING A, A SHIELD OF PROFESSIONAL SUPPORT ON OUR MOST VULNERABLE LEARNERS.THIS ALSO INCLUDES THE DESIGNATION OF BUS STOPS AS NON-PUBLIC SPACES.
BECAUSE A STUDENT'S ANXIETY DOESN'T BEGIN AT THE SCHOOLHOUSE STORE, IT BEGINS A MOMENT, THEY STEP ONTO THE SIDEWALK.
WHILE THIS DRAFT IS A SIGNIFICANT STEP FORWARD, PARTICULARLY THE REQUIREMENT OF JUDICIAL WARRANTS, WE MUST BE CLEAR THAT THIS POLICY IS A FLOOR, NOT A CEILING.
AS THE LANDSCAPE OF IMMIGRANT ENFORCEMENT SHIFTS, OUR PROTECTIONS MUST BE PREPARED TO SHIFT WITH IT.
I URGE THE BOARD TO VIEW THIS NOT AS A FINAL DOCUMENT, BUT AS A LIVING FRAMEWORK.
WE MUST REMAIN OPEN TO THE STRENGTHENING OF THESE PROTOCOLS AS NEW CHALLENGES ARISE TO ENSURE THAT NO LOOPHOLE EVER COMPROMISES THE SAFETY OF A BALTIMORE COUNTY.
STUDENT AMBIGUITY IS AN INVITATION OF FEAR.
WE MUST LEAVE NO ROOM FOR AMBIGUITY IN BALTIMORE COUNTY.
OUR DIVERSITY IS THE GREATEST CLASSROOM ASSET, BUT WE ONLY PROTECT THAT ASSET.
WE PROVIDE A ENVIRONMENT WHERE EVERY CHILD FEELS TRULY SEEN AND TRULY SAFE.
ON BEHALF OF THE PTA COUNCIL AND THE COMMITTEE, I URGE YOU TO PASS THIS POLICY AND TO REMAIN COMMITTED TO FORTIFYING IT IN THE YEARS TO COME.
WE DON'T JUST TEACH THE FUTURE.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JENNIFER BLAYLOCK.
UH, THANK YOU CHAIR LICHTER, SUPERINTENDENT DR. ROGERS AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
MY NAME IS JENNIFER BLAYLOCK AND I'M, I AM A-B-C-P-S PARENT, AS WELL AS A STEERING COMMITTEE MEMBER FOR INDIVISIBLE BALTIMORE COUNTY.
I'M HERE TO SUPPORT A CLEAR POLICY FOR ICE PRESENCE ON OR NEAR SCHOOL CAMPUSES, AND THE PROVISION OF KNOW YOUR RIGHTS, EDUCATION FOR STAFF AND FAMILIES, INDIVISIBLE BALTIMORE COUNTY SUPPORTS.
WE ARE CASA TABCO, THE PTA COUNCIL AND STAFF MEMBERS THROUGHOUT BALTIMORE COUNTY IN CALLING FOR THIS IMPORTANT POLICY, ENSURING THAT STUDENTS AND FAMILIES HAVE ACCESS TO CRITICAL INFORMATION THAT PROTECTS THEIR RIGHTS AND SUPPORTS THEIR ABILITY TO LEARN IS GOOD POLICY.
FAMILIES IN OUR BCPS COMMUNITY ARE FACING DISRUPTIONS FROM ICE THAT AFFECT CHILDREN'S ATTENDANCE, FOCUS, AND OVERALL WELLBEING IN SCHOOL, PROVIDING STRUCTURED TO KNOW YOUR RIGHTS.
EDUCATION ENSURES THAT BOTH FAMILIES AND STAFF ARE INFORMED AND PREPARED.
IT ALLOWS TEACHERS AND ADMINISTRATORS TO BETTER SUPPORT STUDENTS AND MAINTAIN A SAFE, STABLE LEARNING ENVIRONMENT.
THIS KIND OF EDUCATIONAL SUPPORT STRENGTHENS OUR SCHOOLS AND REINFORCES TRUST BETWEEN FAMILIES AND EDUCATORS.
ADOPTING A POLICY THAT FORMALIZES THESE PROTECTIONS IS A CLEAR, PRACTICAL STEP.
THE BOARD CAN TAKE ONE THAT HAS BEEN TAKEN BY MULTIPLE DISTRICTS THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF MARYLAND.
INDIVISIBLE BALTIMORE COUNTY URGES YOU TO TAKE THE SAME ACTION.
DOING SO SHOWS THAT THE SAFETY, STABILITY, AND EDUCATIONAL SUCCESS OF ALL STUDENTS IN BALTIMORE COUNTY COMES FIRST.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ALI DE LOSIS.
SHARE, UM, BOARD MEMBERS, UM, SUPERINTENDENT, UM, BEFORE I EVEN START, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU, MS. PORE, FOR BEING A CHAMPION FOR IMMIGRANT FAMILIES.
MY NAME IS SAL LOS SANTOS, AND I'M CASA'S, I'M SORRY.
WE ARE CASA'S BALTIMORE, CENTRAL MARYLAND DIRECTOR.
I AM A PROUD IMMIGRANT AND NOW A BALTIMORE COUNTY RESIDENT.
I AM HERE TODAY IN STRONG SUPPORT OF POLICY 1250.
UM, AT ITS CORE, THIS POLICY, IT'S SIMPLE AND STRAIGHTFORWARD, BUT MOST, UH, IMPORTANT, ESSENTIAL ENSURING THAT EVERY CHILD IN BALTIMORE COUNTY CAN SAFELY ACCESS THEIR EDUCATION.
FOR MANY FAMILIES, FEAR OF IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT IS NOT ABSTRACT.
AND IT'S DIRECTLY IMPACTING WHETHER A CHILD SHOWS UP TO SCHOOL, HOW THEY PARTICIPATE IN SOCIETY, AND HOW THEY LEARNED.
THIS POLICY MAKES CLEAR THAT SCHOOLS ARE SAFE SPACES BY REQUIRING A JUDICIAL WARRANT FOR IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT ON SCHOOL GROUNDS.
IT PROTECTS STUDENTS FROM DISRUPTION AND TRAUMA BY PROHIBITING, UM, COLLECTION AND SHARING DATA ON IMMIGRATION STATUS.
IT BUILDS TRUST BETWEEN FAMILIES AND SCHOOL BY ENSURING THAT STAFF ARE TRAINED AND EQUIPPED WITH THE TRAUMA INFORMED PRACTICES TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE REALITY THAT MANY STUDENTS ARE FACING AND NAVIGATING.
AT THIS MOMENT, THIS POLICY IS ALIGNED, UH, WITH A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO EDUCATION ESTABLISHED BY
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FIRE VERSUS DOE, UM, WHICH AFFIRMS THAT ALL CHILDREN, REGARDLESS OF IMMIGRATION STATUS, HAVE THE RIGHT TO A PUBLIC EDUCATION.WE KNOW THAT WHEN STUDENTS FEEL SAFE, IT'S EASIER FOR THEM TO LEARN THAT WHEN FAMILIES TRUST THEIR SCHOOL, IT'S EASIER FOR THEM TO ENGAGE.
AND WHEN SCHOOLS ARE PROTECTED FROM A NECESSARY ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS, THEY CAN FOCUS ON WHAT THEY'RE MEANT TO DO, WHICH IS EDUCATE.
WE'VE BEEN, WE HAVE A, WE'VE HAD A GREAT YEAR, UM, HERE IN MARYLAND IN BALTIMORE COUNTY, PASSING LEGISLATION TO SUPPORT STUDENTS AND, UM, STUDENTS, YOUNG, YOUNG PEOPLE FROM BALTIMORE COUNTY HAVE REALLY BEEN IN THE FOREFRONT OF DELIVERING THE TRUST ACT, UM, TO BALTIMORE COUNTY RESIDENT, BUT ALSO PARTICIPATING IN STATE LEVEL ADVOCACY AS IT IS WITH THE MARYLAND, UM, VALUES ACT OF 2026, WHICH, UM, STRAIGHTENED THE PROTECTIONS FOR STUDENT LIMITED IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT IN SCHOOLS, AND REINFORCES SCHOOLS THAT SCHOOLS SHOULD AND MUST MAINTAIN A SAFE SPACE FOR CHILDREN.
THIS IS THE MOMENT FOR BALTIMORE COUNTY'S BOARD OF EDUCATION TO STEP UP AND DO THE SAME.
AND OTHER DISTRICT, UM, AROUND THE REGION HAVE ALREADY DONE SO IN A REALLY PROGRESSIVE WAY.
I ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS TO LOOK AT THOSE POLICIES, ESPECIALLY IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY AND PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY.
UM, THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT THE POLICY, IT'S THE LIVELIHOOD OF OUR STUDENTS AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH ON AN EVERYDAY BASIS.
AND I CAN ASSURE YOU, AS SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN TRAINED TO DEAL WITH THIS SITUATION, EVERY TIME THAT I HAVE TO SIT DOWN WITH A FAMILY MEMBER, UM, TO GO THROUGH THEM, UM, OF WHAT THEIR OPTIONS ARE, IT'S REALLY HEARTBREAKING.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS IVAN GURA OR EVAN? EVAN.
TELL ME HOW YOU SAY YOUR FIRST NAME.
I AM A STUDENT AT FEATHERED LANE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN BALTIMORE COUNTY, AND I AM A MEMBER OF WI CAA.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND ALL THE RULES AND POLITICS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND WHEN SOMETHING MAKES ME FEEL SAFE OR SCARED.
SCHOOL IS A PLACE WHERE I FEEL SAFE.
IT IS A PLACE WHERE I LEARN, I PLAY WITH MY FRIENDS AND WHERE MY TEACHERS HELP ME AT HOME.
SOMETIMES I HEAR ABOUT WHAT ICE IS DOING TO OUR FAMILIES LIKE MINE, I SEE MY FAMILY FEELING SCARED AND IT MAKES ME SCARED TOO.
BUT WHEN I AM AT SCHOOL, I DON'T WANT TO BE SCARED.
I WANT TO DRAW, PAINT, AND PLAY SOCCER WITHOUT THINKING ABOUT THE BAD THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING OUTSIDE.
I WANT TO LEARN AND GET GOOD GRADES SO I CAN GROW UP AND BECOME SOMEBODY IN THE FUTURE.
AND I, AND, AND I WANT ALL MY FRIENDS TO FEEL SAFE AND HAPPY AT SCHOOL TOO.
THANK YOU FOR HELPING TO MAKE SCHOOLS A PLACE WHERE KIDS LIKE ME CAN LEARN WITHOUT FEAR.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS BS FERONE.
I SPEAK, OH, MAYBE YOU'LL BE INFLUENCED BY OUR YOUNGEST.
I HAVE NO ISSUE IN YOU STRESSING THE SAFETY AND THE WELCOMING FEEL FEELING FOR ALL STUDENTS.
UH, I CAME TO BALTIMORE 52 YEARS AGO, LEGAL IMMIGRANTS ON ALIA.
BUT, UM, EVERYONE IN THIS COUNTRY, ALL OF US ARE ILLEGAL IN A WAY FROM COLUMBUS, ALL THE WAY WE CAME HERE, REALLY, THIS WASN'T REALLY OUR LAND WAS NATIVE AMERICAN LAND, BUT THAT'S REALLY BEYOND THE POINT.
THE POLICY HAS TWO GRAMMAR ERRORS
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AND HAS ONE OR TWO DESCRIPTIONS I SENT YOU BY EMAIL YESTERDAY THAT ARE VAGUE.IF YOU ARE TRYING TO PROTECT THE UNDOCUMENTED OR ILLEGAL RESIDENCE, THEN THE POLICY NEEDS TO BE MUCH CLEARER AND CERTAINLY NOT HAVE ANY GRAMMAR ERRORS BECAUSE LAWYERS WILL THRIVE ON IT, UM, ON BOTH SIDES.
SO WHY AM I HERE? I HONESTLY DON'T THINK IT'LL MAKE A DIFFERENCE WHETHER YOU HAVE THIS POLICY OR NOT IN RELATION TO THE ILLEGAL RESIDENT.
BUT WHAT IT DOES, AND THAT'S REALLY MY FEAR, IT OPENS THE EYES OF THE BIG BEAR 50 MILES AWAY FROM HERE.
YOU'VE SEEN WHAT HAPPENED IN MINNESOTA.
YOU'VE SEEN A LOT OF HORRIBLE THINGS.
GRIZZLY BEARS ARE NOT FUZZY, ARE NOT CUTE.
I THINK YOU ARE INVITING TROUBLES BY DOING IT.
AND I KNOW YOU SAY, AND OTHERS SAY, WE WANT THE SCHOOL TO PROTECT OUR KIDS.
YOU, YOU MEAN THE FIVE POLICE OFFICERS WE HAVE TODAY ARE GOING TO STAND AGAINST ICE, OR THE 176 SROS ARE GOING TO STAND AGAINST ICE IF THEY COME IN.
UM, YOU CANNOT FIGHT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, WORK ON IT TO BE CHANGED IN SEPTEMBER.
THE SCHOOL CANNOT REALLY NOT COOPERATE WITH ICE ON FEDERAL ISSUE.
IT'S NOT REALLY YOUR POSITION.
YOU NEED TO FOCUS ON EDUCATION.
UH, MEMBERS OF THE SCHOOL BOARD.
I'M A STUDENT AT WOODLAWN HIGH SCHOOL IN BALTIMORE COUNTY AND A MEMBER OF WHEAT ART CASA.
I AM HERE TO TELL YOU ABOUT MY OWN EXPERIENCE AS A BALTIMORE COUNTY STUDENT FROM AN IMMIGRANT FAMILY.
EVERY MORNING WHEN I WALK TO SCHOOL, I TRY TO FOCUS ON MY CLASSES, MY GOALS, AND MY FUTURE.
SOMETIMES I FEEL THE WORRIES THAT PEOPLE AROUND ME DON'T SEE.
I WORRY ABOUT MY FAMILY AND WHAT COULD HAPPEN TO THEM.
I WORRY THAT SOMEONE I LOVE COULD BE DETAINED AND DEPORTED.
JUST LIKE WHAT HAPPENED TO MY UNCLE LAST YEAR.
I FEEL WORRIED, BUT I KEEP GOING.
'CAUSE FOR ME, MY EDUCATION IS MY OPPORTUNITY TO FOLLOW, TO FOLLOW MY DREAMS. I WANT TO KEEP STUDYING SO I CAN ONE DAY BECOME A PILOT.
FOR ME, SCHOOL IS MORE THAN A PLACE TO LEARN.
IT'S A PLACE WHERE I CAN FEEL AT, AT PEACE, WHERE I CAN BE MYSELF WITHOUT FEAR, AND WHERE I CAN BREATHE AND FOCUS ON WHO I WANT TO BECOME.
KNOWING THERE ARE PEOPLE WORKING TO PROTECT THE STUDENTS FROM MY MEANS MORE THAN I CAN EXPRESS.
IT GIVES ME HOPE, AND IT MAKES ME FEEL LIKE WE'RE NOT ALONE.
I JUST WANT TO, I JUST WANT THINGS TO STAY.
I JUST WANT THE SAME THINGS ANY STUDENT WANTS TO GRADUATE AND TO MAKE MY FAMILY PROUD.
I DON'T WANT FEAR TO BE A PART OF MY EDUCATION.
AND I ASK YOU TO THINK ABOUT US, THE STUDENTS WHO ARE TRYING TO MAKE PROGRESS, EVEN WHILE OUR FAMILIES ARE BEING SEPARATED.
WE ARE NOT JUST NUMBERS OR STATISTICS.
WE ARE YOUNG PEOPLE WITH DREAMS, GOALS, AND SO MUCH TO GIVE.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME AND CONSIDERING WHAT THIS MEANS FOR STUDENTS LIKE ME.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS DORIS LOPEZ.
DOES THIS WORK AS WELL? I'M GONNA BE TRANSLATING, UM, I BELIEVE IT DOES, DOES IS THAT MICROPHONE ALSO? GO AHEAD, LOPEZ.
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GOOD EVENING.AS A MOTHER OF A STUDENT IN BALTIMORE COUNTY, I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU WHAT I FEEL FROM THE DEPTHS OF MY HEART.
WHEN I HEAR ABOUT POLICIES LIKE THE ONE BEING DISCUSSED TONIGHT.
I DON'T THINK ABOUT DOCUMENTS OR LAWS.
I THINK ABOUT HIS DREAMS, HIS SMILE WHEN HE GOES TO SCHOOL, AND THE PEACE THAT I NEED TO FEEL WHEN I DROP HIM OFF EVERY MORNING, KNOWING THAT HE'S IN A SAFE PLACE FOR FAMILIES LIKE MINE, SCHOOL IS NOT SIMPLY A PLACE OF LEARNING.
IT IS A REFUGE, A SPACE WHERE OUR CHILDREN CAN GROW WITHOUT FEAR, WHERE THEY CAN BE THEMSELVES WITHOUT FEELING JUDGED BECAUSE OF WHERE THEY COME FROM OR THEIR FAMILY'S IMMIGRATION STATUS.
KNOWING THEIR EFFORTS TO PROTECT THEM, TO RESPECT THEIR DIGNITY, AND TO ENSURE THAT EVERY CHILD HAS ACCESS TO A SAFE EDUCATION IS AN ABSOLUTE NECESSITY FOR ME TO HAVE HOPE.
AS A MOTHER, ALL I WANT FOR MY CHILD IS TO HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITIES AS ANY OTHER CHILD, TO LEARN, TO MAKE FRIENDS, TO FEEL ACCEPTED, AND TO BUILD A BETTER FUTURE.
NO CHILD SHOULD HAVE TO LIVE WITH A FEAR THAT THEIR EDUCATION COULD BE DISRUPTED BY CIRCUMSTANCES BEYOND THEIR CONTROL.
I AM GRATEFUL FOR THE STEPS THAT BALTIMORE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS IS BEGINNING TO TAKE TO CREATE A MORE HUMANE, FAIR, AND COMPASSIONATE ENVIRONMENT IN OUR SCHOOLS.
BECAUSE WHEN WE PROTECT OUR CHILDREN, WE ARE PROTECTING THE FUTURE OF OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
I ASK YOU TO PLEASE CONTINUE TO WORK VERY HARD TO PASS MORE MEASURES TO PROTECT OUR IMMIGRANT CHILDREN AND ALL CHILDREN IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS GRACE SMITH.
UM, BOARD MEMBERS AND CHAIR, PERSON AND SUPERINTENDENT.
UM, MY NAME'S GRACE SMITH, AND I'M A BALTIMORE COUNTY EDUCATOR.
UM, AND I'M ALSO HERE TO SPEAK, UM, IN FAVOR OF THE BOARD POLICY 1250.
UM, AND I'M DEFINITELY NOT GONNA SAY ANYTHING THAT HASN'T ALREADY BEEN SAID, AND I CERTAINLY COULDN'T SAY IT BETTER, PARTICULARLY THAN THE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT HAVE HAD THE COURAGE TO TESTIFY TODAY.
UM, BUT I JUST WANNA EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE THAT WITHIN THAT POLICY, THERE'S REQUIREMENTS FOR TRAINING BECAUSE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THE ADULTS IN THE BUILDING ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE POLICY IS AND WHAT THE PROCEDURES ARE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY, UM, COMPETENTLY AND QUICKLY PROTECT THEIR STUDENTS.
UM, AND I ALSO JUST WANNA REITERATE THIS IDEA THAT THIS REALLY IS A BEGINNING STEP, UM, BECAUSE THERE'S CERTAIN PLACES THAT HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN PROTECTED, PROTECTED IN THAT POLICY THAT ARE A PART OF THE DAILY LIFE OF EVERY SINGLE STUDENT AND FAMILY THAT IS A MEMBER OF THE BALTIMORE COUNTY SCHOOLS COMMUNITY.
UM, AND THEN THINKING THROUGH THINGS LIKE FIELD TRIPS, LIKE SPORTS GAMES, LIKE ALL THE THINGS THAT ALL OF OUR STUDENTS NEED TO BE A PART OF, UM,
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TO BELONG AND TO SUCCEED IN SCHOOL AND BEYOND.UM, AND THEN I'M JUST GONNA END WITH LIKE AN ANECDOTE, WHICH I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE I SHOULD SAY OR NOT, BUT, UM, A FRIEND OF MINE WAS AT A PROTEST AGAINST THE ICE DETENTION CENTER IN DOWNTOWN BALTIMORE, WHICH I'M SURE YOU'VE ALL HEARD ABOUT THE CONDITIONS THERE.
UM, AND THERE WERE SOME PEOPLE WHO, WHO WORKED FOR ICE DRIVING BY AND THEY YELL OUT THE WINDOW, ICE SUCKS, BUT THE PAYCHECK IS GOOD.
SO I THINK THAT WHEN WE'RE MAKING THIS KIND OF POLICY THAT PROTECTS OUR STUDENTS AND OUR STUDENTS, OUR IMMIGRANT STUDENTS OR STUDENTS FROM MIXED STATUS FAMILIES, WE'RE ALSO SENDING A MESSAGE TO ALL THE STUDENTS ABOUT MORALS AND ETHICS THAT ARE REALLY IMPORTANT AND THAT KIDS NEED TO HEAR THAT.
DID YOU WANNA SPEAK ON THIS POLICY AGAIN? MS. WESCO? DID YOU WANNA SPEAK ON THIS POLICY AGAIN? YOU SIGNED UP.
NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS THE SUPERINTENDENT'S.
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ON THE AGENDA IS SUPERINTENDENT'S REPORT.AND FOR THAT I CALL HIM DR. ROGERS.
GOOD EVENING, CHAIR LICHTER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF EDUCATION.
I DO HAVE A VIDEO TO SHARE WITH THE COMMUNITY THIS EVENING, BUT BEFORE THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A FEW BRIEF COMMENTS.
UH, FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE.
UH, IN PARTICULAR, ADVOCATING ON BEHALF OF POLICY 1250, UM, ESPECIALLY TO EVAN AND WILMER WHO SMOKE SPOKE.
UM, THANK YOU FOR BEING BRAVE AND BEING COURAGEOUS TO SHARE WITH US DIRECTLY WHAT YOUR EXPERIENCES ARE, WHAT YOUR DREAMS ARE, AND WHAT YOU WONDER AND WORRY ABOUT.
THANK YOU FOR TRUSTING US TO LET US KNOW WHAT IT IS YOU EXPECT FROM US AS ADULTS.
UM, WE HAVE SPENT THE LAST YEAR, UM, OBSERVING AND MONITORING THE IMPACT ON OUR STUDENTS IN OUR SCHOOLS.
WE HAVE SPENT THE LAST, UM, YEAR SPEAKING TO LAWMAKERS IN ANNAPOLIS ACROSS THE STATE OF MARYLAND, AS WELL AS THE STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION, EXPLAINING WHAT THE REALITIES ARE FOR OUR STUDENTS AND THE IMPACTS.
AND SO I AM, UM, LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT STEPS OF THE, UH, BOARD OF EDUCATION ON YOUR BEHALF, UH, WITH RE WITH REGARDS TO POLICY 1250.
BUT WANTED TO THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, UH, FOR COMING OUT, COMING OUT EVERYONE, BUT ESPECIALLY OUR YOUNG PEOPLE COMING OUT TO SPEAK TO US.
I DID WANT TO SEND, UH, TO SHARE A FOLLOW UP, UH, FROM THE COMMUNICATION THAT WE SENT LAST WEEK AS COUNTY EXECUTIVE KLOS MEYER, UH, DID UNVEIL HER PROPOSED BUDGET, UM, AS WAS SHARED, UM, THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET SEASON.
WE STARTED LAST FALL, UH, SHARING WITH THE WHOLE COMMUNITY THAT WE ANTICIPATED ANOTHER TOUGH BUDGET DELIBERATIONS.
UH, OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, I HAVE PERSONALLY SPENT MORE THAN 100 HOURS IN ADVOCACY ON BEHALF OF TEAM BCPS AT BOTH THE STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT LEVELS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE RETAIN AS MANY RESOURCES AS POSSIBLE AND WE MITIGATE ANY IMPACTS OF CUTS THAT MOVE FORWARD.
BUT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO SHARE, UM, THAT ANY REQUEST, EVERY SINGLE, UH, REQUEST THAT WE MAKE IS JUST THAT, UH, TO OUR FUNDING PARTNERS.
UH, AS YOU KNOW, THAT I SHARED WIDELY, WE WERE EXPECTING 2% ABOVE MOE, UH, WITH THE COUNTY EXECUTIVES ANNOUNCEMENT, WE RECEIVED FOUR AND A HALF PERCENT ABOVE MOE.
THAT'S ALMOST $45 MILLION ABOVE WHAT IS REQUIRED.
WE KNOW THAT IT IS NOT AT THANK YOU.
WE KNOW THAT IT IS NOT EVERYTHING, BUT WE ARE APPRECIATIVE, UH, THAT SHE WORKED HARD WITH US.
UH, BUT WHEN YOU RECEIVE FUNDING FROM A FUNDING PARTNER, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US, US TO REMIND EVERYONE IN THE SAME WAY THAT FUNDS COME WITH STRINGS ATTACHED FOR MONITORING.
AND SO I JUST WANNA MAKE IT VERY CLEAR.
IF SOMEONE GOES TO BUDGET 1 0 1, YOU CAN SEE THE REQUESTS THAT WAS MADE.
THE REQUESTS FOR SECONDARY LIBRARY MEDIA SPECIALISTS, UH, WAS DETAILED IN THE REQUEST THAT WAS MADE TO OUR COUNTY EXECUTIVE WHEN WE RECEIVED THE EXTRA FUNDING, UH, BECAUSE THERE WERE A LIMITED AMOUNT OF FUNDS, PRIORITIES HAD TO BE DECIDED WHAT WAS LOUDEST AND CLEAREST TO ALL MEMBERS OF TEAM BCPS COMING FROM PARENTS, COMING FROM STUDENTS, COMING FROM TEACHERS, COMING
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FROM TABCO, COMING FROM THE BOARD OF EDUCATION WAS WHAT COULD WE DO TO MID MITIGATE THE IMPACT OF THE STAFFING RATIOS? AND SO, COUNTY EXECUTIVE MEYER, WITH AN ADDITIONAL 15 MILLION OF FLEXIBILITY FROM THE SPENDING AFFORDABILITY COMMITTEE, SPENT THE MAJORITY OF THAT FUNDING ON THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.WHEN SHE SPENT THE MAJORITY OF THAT FUNDING, IT DETAILED WHAT WE WERE TO USE IT FOR.
IT WAS FOR CLASS SIZES TO KEEP THEM THE SAME AT ELEMENTARY LEVEL.
IT WAS ALSO FOR THE INCREASED COST OF PENSION THAT JUST CAME FROM ANNAPOLIS FOR US TO ADDRESS THAT IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, NOT HAVE TO, UM, ADDRESS THAT AND FOR INCREASED HEALTHCARE, UM, COST.
AND SO I WANTED TO MAKE, UH, THAT SHORE, UH, MAKE THAT CLEAR TO ALL OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT WERE LISTENING, UM, THAT WE DID RECEIVE ADDITIONAL FUNDS.
WE ARE EXTREMELY APPRECIATIVE, UH, TO THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE FOR HER COMING, UH, FORWARD, AND, UH, HELPING TO SAVE MANY CLASSROOM POSITIONS, BUT WITH LIMITED FUNDS AT ALL LEVELS.
UM, SHE HAD TO MAKE CERTAIN DECISIONS AND WE RESPECT THOSE DECISIONS.
UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAD, UH, THAT INFORMATION.
AND, UH, WITH THAT AS, UH, I SHARED, I THINK THE TEAM IS READY.
UH, WE DO HAVE A VIDEO, UM, THANKING OUR STAFF FOR THE WORK THAT THEY HAVE DONE THROUGHOUT, UH, TEAM BCPS FOR THE, UH, LAST THREE YEARS.
AND SO, IF THE TEAM IS READY, PLEASE PLAY THE VIDEO EACH DAY.
MORE THAN 20,000 DEDICATED BCPS STAFF MEMBERS WORK TO TEACH, SUPPORT AND PROVIDE SERVICES TO 108,000 STUDENTS AND FAMILIES.
OUR DIVERSE AND TALENTED WORKFORCE IS THE HEART OF OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM.
THE COLLECTIVE EFFORTS AND COLLABORATION OF OUR ENTIRE STAFF ACROSS SCHOOLS, CENTRAL OFFICE AND OPERATIONS, HAVE LED TO THE SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENTS AND NOTABLE GAINS IN STUDENT PERFORMANCE.
BCPS STAFF DO IT ALL FROM PROVIDING SAFE TRANSPORTATION AND DELICIOUS HOT MEALS, BEAUTIFYING SCHOOL GROUNDS, AND KEEPING OUR FACILITIES IN TOP SHAPE, DELIVERING, ENGAGING HIGH QUALITY INSTRUCTION, AND PROVIDING CRITICAL WRAPAROUND SERVICES AND SUPPORTS TO DEVELOPING CURRICULUM MONITORING DATA, AND FOSTERING SAFE AND WELCOMING SCHOOLS AND SO MUCH MORE.
A SYSTEM AS LARGE AS BCPS CANNOT FUNCTION IN FAST FORWARD ACHIEVEMENT FOR ALL STUDENTS WITHOUT ITS STAFF WORKING TOGETHER.
DRIVEN BY A SHARED VISION TEAM BCPS.
I AM TRULY GRATEFUL FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.
I HAVE THOROUGHLY ENJOYED THE WORK THAT WE HAVE DONE TOGETHER ON BEHALF OF STUDENTS, EVERYONE WHO WORKS FROM OPERATIONS TO THE SCHOOLHOUSE AND EVERYONE IN BETWEEN.
IT HAS TRULY TAKEN ALL OF YOU TO MOVE BCPS FORWARD.
AND I WANT TO ABSOLUTELY WISH YOU THE BEST AND LET YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE AMAZING AND KNOW THAT YOU ARE WELL POSITIONED TO CONTINUE TO MOVE THE 108,000 STUDENTS FORWARD.
TEAM BCPS STAFF ARE INCREDIBLY SPECIAL.
WE RECOGNIZE, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR RELENTLESS EFFORTS TO BUILD A WORLD-CLASS SCHOOL SYSTEM THAT WE CAN BE PROUD OF.
YOUR WORK IS MAKING A DIFFERENCE IN THE LIVES OF OUR STUDENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES.
UM, I HAVE AN ITEM FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF WE'RE, IF SUPERINTENDENT ROGERS IS FINISHED, YOU HAVE AN ITEM FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? YES.
IN RESPONSE TO PUBLIC COMMENT RECEIVED THIS EVENING, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
I MOVE THAT THE BOARD ASKED DR. ROGERS TO IMMEDIATELY TAKE ALL ACTIONS NECESSARY TO SUPPORT THE DESIGNATION OF NOTTINGHAM MIDDLE SCHOOL, A LOW PERFORMING SCHOOL AND A COMMUNITY SCHOOL BY NO LATER THAN JULY 1ST, 2026, IN ORDER FOR RESOURCES TO BE AVAILABLE TO STUDENTS FOR THE 20 26 20 27 SCHOOL YEAR.
IS THERE A SECOND TO MS. HEN'S MOTION? SECOND DOKI.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION, MS. HEN, OR, UM, YES.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT WE HEARD THIS EVENING, I'VE RECEIVED, UM, NUMEROUS FEEDBACK FROM BOTH STAFF AND FAMILIES, UM, THAT THESE DESIGNATIONS ARE CRITICALLY IMPORTANT FOR RESOURCES FOR THIS SCHOOL, UM, PARTICULARLY, UM, AFTER THE SCHOOL OPENED AND SINCE, UM, DUE TO THE FEEDER PATTERNS THAT STUDENTS INCOMING TO NOTTINGHAM MIDDLE, UM, HAD AVAILABLE TO THEM PRIOR TO, UM, THE SCHOOL'S OPENING.
SO IN ORDER FOR CONTINUITY OF S SERVICES AND SUPPORTS, UM, THESE TWO, UM, DESIGNATIONS ARE CRITICALLY IMPORTANT
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TO PROVIDE THE NECESSARY RESOURCES FOR THIS SCHOOL.SO I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR THIS MOTION.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? UM, DO YOU WANNA RESPOND? THIS IS BOARD MEMBER FONG.
UM, BECAUSE THIS HAS COME UP BEFORE, I KNOW THE YOUNG LADY HAD COME AND SPOKEN TO US BEFORE, AND WHEN, UM, WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT IT, I REMEMBER ASKING THE QUESTION.
WE WERE TOLD WE HAD TO WAIT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME.
SO HAS THAT CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME GONE BY, AND IT'S JUST A MATTER OF THE DATA NEEDS TO BE SUBMITTED FOR THIS PARTICULAR SCHOOL.
DO YOU WANNA RESPOND? DR. ROGERS? UH, THANK YOU, MS. FONG.
UM, THE CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME FROM THE, UH, STATE, UM, HAS NOT YET ELAPSED.
UH, BUT I DO WANT TO, UH, BRING TO THE PUBLIC'S ATTENTION AND TO, UH, MS. HAND YOUR ATTENTION REGARDING, UH, THIS MOTION, UH, FACTUAL INFORMATION THAT I HAVE BEEN PROVIDED FROM THE TEAM.
UH, THE FIRST IS IN REGARDS TO, UH, THE COMMUNITY SCHOOLS.
THE STATE OF MARYLAND IDENTIFIES A, UH, DESIGNATION AND PARAMETERS, UM, WHEREBY A SCHOOL SYSTEM, UH, CAN MEET THAT EXPECTATION.
UH, THERE WAS A, UH, CONCERN THAT THE DATA BEING USED, UH, WAS NOT ACCURATE.
UH, BOTH MS. FORRESTER, AS WELL AS MS. STANSBERRY, UM, REVIEWED ALL OF THE DATA, AND THEY WERE WITH DR.
TODAY AT NOTTINGHAM, UH, MIDDLE SCHOOL VERIFIED THAT THE DATA THAT THEY HAVE IS ACCURATE, AND THE INFORMATION BEING REPORTED, UM, WAS NOT ACCURATE.
UM, AND WE MUST, UH, COMPLY WITH WHAT THE STATE, UH, REQUIREMENTS ARE FOR DESIGNATION IN REFERENCE TO, UH, REQUESTING TO BE, UH, IDENTIFIED AS A LOW PERFORMING SCHOOL.
THE DEPARTMENT OF SCHOOLS AND TITLE ONE STAFF HAVE BOTH WORKED TOGETHER, UH, TO PUT A PLAN OF SUPPORTS IN PLACE, UM, AFTER CONSULTATION, UH, WITH THE STATE ABOUT THE NEXT, UH, BEST STEPS, UM, I, UH, WE ALSO HAVE INQUIRED ABOUT AN EXCEPTION FROM THE STATE, AND THAT WAS DENIED BY MSDE, UH, WEEKEND FORWARD, UH, THAT COMMUNICATION TO THE BOARD OF EDUCATION.
MS. DOKI, I JUST WONDERED IF, IF DR.
GRIM WOULD BE ABLE TO COME UP AND ANSWER QUESTIONS.
I REMEMBER THIS TOPIC WAS BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE DATA FOR COMMUNITY SCHOOLS AND WHAT WAS NEEDED.
AND THERE WAS LIKE PRIOR DATA FOR A SCHOOL, AN EXISTING SCHOOL, BUT AT A NEW SCHOOL, THE DATA WASN'T REQUIRED.
I, I, I JUST WOULD LIKE SOME CLARIFICATIONS ON, ON THAT.
I, BECAUSE I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID.
SO, MR. MINSKI, YOUR QUESTION IS, COULD YOU JUST CLARIFY AGAIN, WHAT, WHAT ARE THE REQUIREMENTS TO BE DESIGNATED AT A COMMUNITY SCHOOL FOR A, BECAUSE NOTTINGHAM IS TECHNICALLY IN A NEW SCHOOL, BUT IT IS COMING FROM THE FEEDER PATTERN OF, UM, GOLDEN RING.
UM, BUT FROM GOLDEN RING, AND I, I REMEMBER YOU, US SAYING THAT IF IT'S A NEW SCHOOL, IT DOESN'T, IT WAS SOME, THE, THE DATA REQUIREMENT FOR GOING BACK WASN'T, WAS DIFFERENT FROM, SAY, AN EXISTING SCHOOL.
SO, UH, I, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE COMMUNITY SCHOOLS PIECE.
I'VE NEVER ANSWERED QUESTIONS REGARDING COMMUNITY SCHOOL STATUS, UH, THAT WOULD NEED TO COME FROM MS. STANSBERRY OR MS. FORSTER.
UM, THE, THE TOPIC THAT I DID SPEAK ON WAS THERE WERE QUESTIONS REGARDING, UM, NOTTINGHAM'S STATUS.
AND, UH, WHAT I SHARED WAS THAT A, A STATE, THE STATE REQUIRES TWO YEARS WORTH OF DATA TO MAKE THEIR REVIEW.
SO, UM, THEY NEED TWO YEARS OF EXISTING DATA AS A NEW SCHOOL NUMBER.
SO WHEN YOU HAVE A NEW SCHOOL LIKE NOTTINGHAM, THEY, THE STATE ASSIGNS THEM A NEW NUMBER UNDER THAT, UNDER THAT NAME, AND THEY GET TWO YEARS WORTH OF DATA IN ORDER TO DO THAT.
UM, THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU, UM, REDISTRICT OR YOU JUST, YOU HAVE THE SAME SCHOOL WITH A DIFFERENT NUMBER.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE, THE GOLDEN RINGS SCHOOL NUMBER AND DESIGNATION BY MSD IS DIFFERENT THAN NOTTINGHAM'S.
I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT THAT, UM, WHILE NOTTINGHAM DID, UM, TAKE MUCH, IF NOT ALL OF GOLDEN RING'S CATCHMENT, I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK.
THERE WERE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN NOTTINGHAM AS WELL.
AND THAT'S, UM, WHERE THEIR ENROLLMENT HAD INCREASED AND THAT WOULD IMPACT THEIR DATA.
UM, I CAN'T SIT HERE AND SAY WHETHER THAT WAS POSITIVE, POSITIVELY OR NEGATIVELY IN ANY WAY.
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MORE STUDENTS THAT WERE ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED OR IN ANY OTHER SUBCATEGORY FOLLOW UP.SO YOUR, YOUR STATEMENT IS THAT IT REQUIRES TWO YEARS OF DATA FOR A NEW SCHOOL TO BE DESIGNATED A COMMUNITY SCHOOL, AND THAT IS WHAT NO, I DID NOT SAY THAT.
I DID NOT SAY, I SAID I CANNOT ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT COMMUNITY SCHOOLS.
WHAT I SAID WAS THAT MS. FORRESTER AND MS. STANSBERRY ARE THE ONES THAT ANSWERED ANY QUESTIONS.
WHAT I SAID WAS THAT THE STATE MSDE REQUIRES TWO YEARS OF DATA FOR THEM TO SAY THAT A SCHOOL IS A LOW DESIGNATED AS A LOW PERFORMING SCHOOL, THERE ARE DIFFERENT DESIGNATIONS.
COMMUNITY SCHOOL DESIGNATION IS DIFFERENT THAN LOW PERFORMING SCHOOL DESIGNATION.
LOW PERFORMING SCHOOL DESIGNATION REQUIRES TWO YEARS OF DATA BY THE MARYLAND STATE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.
I'LL, I'LL GO BACK AND REVIEW THAT MEETING.
I JUST REMEMBER, PLEASE, I REMEMBER THE CONVERSATION DIFFERENTLY.
JUST TO CLARIFY, UM, AND THIS, THESE ACTIONS MAY HAVE ALREADY BEEN TAKEN, AND THANK YOU TO DR. ROGERS FOR SHARING THAT INFORMATION.
THE INTENT OF MY MOTION IS SIMPLY TO ASK BCPS TO SUPPORT MOVING NOTTINGHAM MIDDLE TOWARD THESE TWO DESIGNATIONS.
AND IF THOSE ACTIONS HAVE BEEN TAKEN, GREAT.
UM, IT IS A CONTINUOUS PROCESS AS DR.
GRIM, UM, SEEMED TO INDICATE AND WHAT HE SHARED AND, AND WHAT DR. ROGERS SHARED.
SO IF, IF THEY CAN'T MEET THESE TWO DESIGNATIONS, NOW, THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.
BUT THE GOAL OF MY MOTION IS TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE PROCESS AND MOVING THEM TOWARDS GETTING THESE RESOURCES.
SO I WOULD ASK FOR, UM, THE BOARD TO SUPPORT THIS MOTION, AND THAT WE CONTINUE TO RECEIVE UPDATES ON THE PROGRESS TOWARDS MOVING THEM FORWARD.
AND WITH YOUR, UM, PERMISSION, MADAM CHAIR, I'LL READ MY MO REREAD MY MOTION AGAIN TO, TO ADD CLARITY TO THAT.
CAN YOU HOLD AND REREAD FOR ONE SECOND AND LET DR.
RES ARRIS RESPOND AND THEN I'LL COME BACK? OF COURSE.
SO A FEW THINGS THAT I'D LIKE TO, UH, SHARE WITH THE COMMUNITY.
UM, AS THE SCHOOL DOES NOT HAVE THE, UM, DATA, THEY DON'T HAVE THE, UH, THREE YEAR AVERAGE, THE TWO YEARS WORTH OF DATA THAT THEY HAVE.
THE STATE, UM, THRESHOLD IS 55%.
UM, GOLDEN RING WAS ONLY 800 STUDENTS.
NOTTINGHAM IS ABOUT 13, UH, 12, 12, 1300 STUDENTS.
SO 500 STUDENTS MAKES A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE SERVICE GROUPS.
UM, I ALSO WANT IT TO BE CLEAR THAT THE FOLLOW UP ON THE COMMUNITY SCHOOLS IS ONE TICKET THAT I TOOK BACK PERSONALLY, AND, UH, SPOKE WITH MS FOR FORSTER WHO FOLLOWED UP WITH MSDE PERSONALLY.
AND SO OUR, UM, INQUIRY AND OUR SUPPORT OF, UH, INFUSING RESOURCES TO THE SCHOOL IS NOTED, UH, AT MSS D UH, AS I SHARED EARLIER, I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE A COPY OF THE COMMUNICATION TO ALL OF THE, UH, BOARD OF EDUCATION MEMBERS AND WHAT THEIR, UH, RESPONSE WAS.
I JUST WANT IT TO BE, UH, VERY CLEAR WHAT THE DATA IS, UH, AND WHAT THE CHANGES WERE.
IF WE MOVE FROM 800 STUDENTS TO 850, IT WOULD BE A REASONABLE ASSUMPTION THAT THE STATE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO WAIT.
UH, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE 500 STUDENTS AND YOU CAN'T SPEAK TO, UH, WHAT ARE ALL THE SERVICE GROUPS THAT THEY REPRESENT, THAT HAS AN IMPACT.
AND THE EXACT NUMBERS THAT THE TEAM JUST SHARED WITH ME WHILE I WAS SITTING UP HERE IS THAT THE THRESHOLD IS 55%, AND WITH THE 1300 STUDENTS, THE STATE, UH, THE SCHOOL IS AT 51%, AND THIS IS THE STATE THRESHOLD.
THIS IS NOT A DECISION THAT BALTIMORE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS OR ANY OF THE OTHER SCHOOL, UM, SYSTEMS CAN MAKE, UM, INDEPENDENTLY.
SO JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS CLEAR AND ON THE RECORD.
THANK YOU, DR. ROGERS, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT DATA.
UM, I'M NOT SURE HOW CURRENT THE DATA ARE THAT YOU'RE RECEIVING FROM STAFF.
I'M ASSUMING IT'S THE LATEST DAY AS OF TODAY, OR, OR HOW RECENT OR HOW FREQUENTLY THAT DATA OR UP THOSE DATA ARE UPDATED THAT WE SHOULD BE MONITORING THIS.
UM, AND I APPRECIATE, UM, YOUR SHARED SENSE OF URGENCY IN MOVING, UM, NOTING HIM TOWARDS RECEIVING THE RESOURCES THEY NEED.
I WOULD CONTINUE TO WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH MY MOTION SO THAT WE CAN MONITOR THIS ACTIVELY.
AND AS NEW DATA BECOME AVAILABLE, WE CAN REVISIT THIS WITH MSDE AND ASK FOR CONSIDERATION SHOULD THOSE DATA POINTS MOVE FAVORABLY TOWARDS SECURING THEIR RESOURCES.
SO, MADAM CHAIR, WITH YOUR PERMISSION, I WOULD ASK FOR A VOTE ON MY MOTION.
CAN YOU REPEAT THE ABSO MOTION? ABSOLUTELY.
IN RESPONSE TO PUBLIC COMMENT RECEIVED THIS EVENING, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD ASK DR. ROGERS TO IMMEDIATELY TAKE ALL ACTIONS NECESSARY TO SUPPORT THE DESIGNATION OF NOTTINGHAM MIDDLE SCHOOL, A LOW PERFORMING SCHOOL AND A COMMUNITY SCHOOL BY NO LATER THAN JULY 1ST, 2026, IN ORDER FOR RESOURCES TO BE AVAILABLE TO STUDENTS FOR THE 20 26 20 27 SCHOOL
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YEAR.DISCUSSION, MR. YOUNG, DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND OVER? I HAD ONE.
WE HAD A SECOND ALREADY, I BELIEVE, CORRECT? MM-HMM
I WAS JUST GONNA ASK IF, UM, MS. HIN COULD PUT IT IN THE CHAT SO WE COULD REVIEW IT.
MS. DOKI, DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP? YEAH, I'M SORRY.
WHAT WAS THE DESIGNATE, THE E ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED PERCENTAGE THAT YOU SAID? UH, THE REQUIRED THRESHOLD BY THE STATE IS 55%.
UM, THE MOST RECENT DATA FOR, UH, NOTTINGHAM IS THEY ARE AT 51%.
I, I, THIS COULD BE WRONG, I'M JUST LOOKING AT, UM, MARYLAND STATE REPORT CARDS WEBSITE ON NOTTINGHAM MIDDLE, AND IT SAYS ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED STUDENTS IS 67.7%.
WHAT THEY USE IS THE OCTOBER 31ST DIRECT CERTIFICATION COUNTS AND SEPTEMBER 30 ENROLLMENT COUNTS.
SO I DON'T KNOW THE SOURCE THAT YOU'RE USING, WHAT IT IS USING, BUT WHAT IS USED ACROSS THE STATE ARE THE NUMBERS, UH, THAT I JUST SHARED.
OCTOBER 31ST, DIRECT CERTIFICATION COUNT.
SO THAT DEALS WITH FREE AND REDUCED MEALS AND THE OFFICIAL SEPTEMBER 30TH ENROLLMENT COUNT.
I'M JUST GOING OFF MS. D'S WEBSITE.
THANK YOU, MS. MR. MCMILLION, OR YOU GOT A QUESTION? GO AHEAD.
I'M JUST CURIOUS FOR FUTURE REFERENCE, WHEN WE VOTED ON THE NAME OF THE SCHOOL, IF WE'D HAVE VOTED ON GOLDEN RING MIDDLE AS THE NAME FOR NOTTINGHAM, WOULD THOSE NUMBERS HAVE CARRIED OVER AND WOULD THERE BE A COMMUNITY SCHOOL? RIGHT NOW? THE NAME PART, UM, AND THE NUMBER IS ONE THING.
I THINK THE ENROLLMENT PART, IF YOU ADDED 500 MORE STUDENTS, WOULDN'T THE EFFECT BE THE SAME IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY SCHOOL? SO AT, AGAIN, UM, MS. STANBURY OR MS. FORSTER WOULD HAVE TO SPEAK TO THE COMMUNITY SCHOOL DE DESIGNATION.
UM, AS DR. ROGERS SAID EARLIER, THE, UM, BECAUSE THE BOUNDARIES CHANGED, THE, UM, THE SCHOOL NUMBER MAY STAY THE SAME.
IT MAY, IF IT WAS DESIGNATED AS A REPLACEMENT SCHOOL, I DON'T KNOW THE, THE, THE STATE'S RULE, IF IT WOULD NEED TO BE AT THE SAME SITE OR A DIFFERENT SITE, THAT'S SOMETHING I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND RESEARCH WITH THE STRATEGIC PLANNING TEAM.
UM, I BELIEVE IT WOULD, IT COULD STAY THE SAME NUMBER.
UM, COMMUNITY SCHOOL DESIGNATIONS HAPPEN, I BELIEVE YEAR TO YEAR IN TERMS OF THE, UM, LOW PERFORMING STATUS.
AGAIN, THERE'S TWO YEARS WORTH OF DATA THAT WOULD BE NEEDED FOR THAT.
IF IT WOULD'VE CONTINUED ON AS GOLDEN RING, IT MAY HAVE QUALIFIED IF THE STATE ALLOWED IT TO BE THE SAME NUMBER.
UM, MR. MCMILLIAN, I DO WANNA SHARE WITH YOU AND WITH THE COMMUNITY THAT, UM, ANNUALLY WE HAVE SCHOOLS THAT GO ON AND OFF THE TITLE ONE LIST BASED ON THE ENROLLMENT AND THE STUDENTS THAT ARE THERE.
THE SAME PREMISE IS TRUE FOR COMMUNITY SCHOOLS.
SO THEY WOULD'VE LOOKED AT ALL OF THE STUDENTS THAT ARE IN THE SCHOOL.
IF IT STAYED 800 STUDENTS, OR LIKE I SAID, 50 MORE STUDENTS, MAYBE THAT WASN'T A BIG OF A DEAL ADDING 500 STUDENTS, THEY WOULD'VE LOOKED AT THE DATA.
DR. ROGERS, THAT'S THE SAME WITH LOW PERFORMING STATUS AS WELL.
IT JUST A SCHOOL NEEDS TWO YEARS OF DATA FOR THEM TO CONSIDER THAT STATUS FOR MSDS.
NORMAL PROCESS TO CONSIDER THAT STATUS.
I JUST, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY, UM, A REQUEST FOR EXCEPTION WAS PUT IN, WAS THAT WHAT YOU, OKAY.
UM, AND SO I'M JUST LOOKING AT, UM, MS. HEN'S MOTION AND BASED ON THE MOTION, I FEEL THAT IF EVERYTHING HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE, THIS DOESN'T REALLY DISQUALIFY THAT.
UM, BUT WE'RE STILL FOLLOWING THE DA THE DATA TO SEE IF ANYTHING ADDITIONAL CAN BE DONE, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE STUDENTS IN THE SCHOOL, HONESTLY, THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING ABOUT THE STUDENTS OR WHO ARE IN HIGH NEED, UM, AND LOW ACHIEVING, UM, GET ALL THE SUPPORT THAT THEY NEED FROM US AS MUCH AS WE CAN PROVIDE, I KNOW THAT IT'S BASED ON STATE NUMBERS.
I, I UNDERSTAND ALL OF THAT, BUT, UM, I DON'T THINK IT HURTS TO KEEP AN EYE ON THIS AND TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING EVERY, EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THESE STUDENTS ARE SUPPORTED.
AND I THINK ANOTHER PIECE OF THAT IS THE NATIONALLY CERTIFIED TEACHERS.
I MEAN, IF THEY, RIGHT NOW, I DON'T, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE RECEIVE THAT EXTRA MONEY BECAUSE THE SCHOOL HAS NOT BEEN DESIGNATED AS, IS THAT ACCURATE? SO THEY'LL RECEIVE 10,000 EXTRA PER YEAR A ANYWHERE YOU ARE, AS LONG AS YOU'RE NATIONAL BOARD CERTIFIED.
IF YOU'RE IN A LOW PERFORMING SCHOOL ON TOP OF THAT 10,000, YOU RECEIVE AN ADDITIONAL 7,000 PER YEAR.
SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 10 AND 17? YES.
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COMMENTS? LEMME JUST CHECK, UM, TEAMS FOR A SECOND.I JUST WANNA CLARIFY, IS THIS SAYING THAT ALL OF THE ACTIONS TO SUPPORT WILL BE COMPLETED BY JULY 1ST, OR THAT THE SCHOOL IS GONNA HAVE DESIGNATION OF EITHER A LOW PERFORMING SCHOOL AND A COMMUNITY SCHOOL BY JULY 1ST.
THANK YOU MS. FONG, FOR THE QUESTION.
THIS IS TO SAY THAT ALL ACTIONS NECESSARY TO SUPPORT THE DESIGNATION WILL BE COMPLETED BY NO LATER THAN JULY 1ST.
AND TO, UM, ADD ONTO WHAT MS. HUMPHREY WAS SAYING, I I AGREE.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THE ACTIONS HAVE BEEN TAKEN.
SO, UM, IT IS IMPORTANT TO MONITOR IT AND JUST DOT OUR I'S AND CROSS OUR T'S AND, AND KEEP AN EYE ON THE DATA SO THAT IF ANYTHING CHANGES, WE'RE PREPARED TO MOVE QUICKLY.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MS. FONG? IT DOES.
SO THEN WOULD YOU ACTUALLY AMEND THAT THEN PLEASE? BECAUSE WE SPOKE ABOUT THE MONITORING PIECE.
SO WOULD YOU HAVE SOME LANGUAGE TO INCLUDE THE MONITORING WOULD, LET'S SEE.
WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE MOTION? AND I'LL HAND IT BACK TO MADAM CHAIR.
MADAM CHAIR'S READING WHAT YOU WROTE IN THE CHAT.
UM, SO MS. FROM P ARE YOU ASKING TO AMEND MS. HEN'S MOTION? UM, YEAH.
SO JUST MAKING A PIECE ABOUT THE MONITORING.
SO THEN IF IT'S, UM, BECAUSE THIS IS, THAT THE ACTIONS NECESSARY ARE GONNA BE TAKEN THEN NO LATER THAN JULY 1ST.
SO, UM, THEN I GUESS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SCHOOL YEAR, WE COULD HAVE AN UPDATE AND THEN POTENTIALLY MIDYEAR, ET CETERA.
OR IF THIS IS DONE, I GUESS AT A, I DON'T KNOW, I'M, I'M TALKING THROUGH, I'M JUST TALKING OUT LOUD BECAUSE THIS IS ACTUALLY DONE ON A ANNUAL BASIS, THEN WE SHOULD BASICALLY HAVE AN UPDATE AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS UPCOMING SCHOOL YEAR IN 2026.
WELL, WHEN, SO WE WOULD, WHEN ARE THE DESIGNATIONS FOR 26, 27 MADE? THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN MADE.
WHO'S A COMMUNITY SCHOOL FOR 26, 27.
SO THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE, WHICH IS WHY THEY'RE HERE, I BELIEVE WHY THEY'RE HERE TONIGHT.
'CAUSE THEY WERE NOT PUT ON THE 26, 27 LIST.
SO THEN WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE AN UPDATE AFTER THE NEW DATA HAS BEEN RECEIVED SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT THE NEW DATA IS, AND THEN I GUESS HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING THEN OF WHETHER THEY MEET THE CRITERIA FOR A LOW PERFORMING SCHOOL OR A COMMUNITY SCHOOL.
AND IF NOT, AND OR 'CAUSE WE WANT THEM TO HAVE BOTH AS DESIGNATIONS, BUT IF NOT, THEN WHAT AGAIN, SUPPORTS CAN BE PROVIDED TO HELP THE SCHOOL AND THE STUDENTS THAT ARE IN NEED AT THIS, UM, AT THIS PARTICULAR SCHOOL.
SO I GUESS THE NEWEST DATA WE'D GET WOULD BE SEPTEMBER 30TH ENROLLMENT DEBT, OCTOBER 31ST ENROLLMENT.
SO I BUT AS FAR AS THE MONITORING, THAT WOULD BE PLACING THIS ON AGENDA ITEMS TO KEEP US INFORMED, CORRECT.
THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE, YOU WERE SAYING, CORRECT.
SO DO YOU WANT THAT AMENDED OR ARE YOU TELLING RIGHT NOW ME AS CHAIR MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP UPDATES COMING ON A CONTINUAL BASIS? DO YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE WORDING OR I MEAN AMEND IT OR DO YOU WANT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PUT IT ON FUTURE AGENDAS? YOU CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE PUT IT ON FUTURE AGENDAS THEN.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION THAT MS. HEN HAS PUT INTO THE CHAT? OKAY, LET ME JUST CHECK.
OKAY, THEN MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.
AND NOW, OKAY, I THINK WE'RE ON CHAIR'S
[G. CHAIR'S REPORT (7:25 - 7:30 p.m.)]
REPORT.SO, UM, I ALSO LIKE TO CONCUR WITH WHAT DR. ROGERS SAID ABOUT EVERYONE WHO CAME TO SPEAK TONIGHT.
MANY OF YOU'RE STILL HERE ON POLICY 1250.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR HEARTFELT COMMENTS.
UM, SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
AS DR. ROGERS DISCUSSED, UM, COUNTY EXECUTIVE KLAUS MEYER PRESENTED HER FY 27 PROPOSED BUDGET LAST WEEK AND WE'RE GRATEFUL THAT SHE HAS PROPOSED FUNDING THE SYSTEM ABOVE THE MOE, WHICH IS THE MINIMUM AMOUNT COUNTY GOVERNMENT IS REQUIRED TO FUND THE FY 27 BUDGET PROPOSAL RECOMMENDS AN OVERALL 4.5% INCREASE OVER THAT MOE.
IT DOES INCLUDE 9.3 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR BCPS TO RESTORE CRITICAL SCHOOL-BASED POSITIONS, AS WELL AS 5.4 MILLION ABOVE THE
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BOARD'S PROPOSED BUDGET TO SUPPORT INCREASED HEALTHCARE AND PENSION EXPENSES.WE REGRET THAT THE AMENDMENT PASSED BY THE BOARD DURING THAT 2 24 MEETING THAT WOULD ELIMINATE THE SECONDARY LMSS TEACHING OF TWO CLASS PERIODS WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE CECE'S PROPOSED BUDGET.
HOWEVER, WE DO VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT PROPOSED FOR BCPS AND THANK COUNTY EXECUTIVE CLASS MEYER FOR HER COUNT.
CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP AND SUPPORT AT THIS POINT.
THE COUNTY COUNCIL WILL NOW REVIEW THE PROPOSED BUDGET AND TAKE ACTION ON THE IN LATE MAY.
OUR CHAMPIONS FOR CHILDREN'S EVENT WILL TAKE PLACE NEXT THURSDAY WHERE WE'LL RECOGNIZE OUR EXCEPTIONAL AND HARDWORKING STAFF.
WE'RE EXCITED TO CELEBRATE THE TEACHER OF THE YEAR, PRINCIPAL OF THE YEAR, AND ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL OF THE YEAR SELECTED THROUGH A THOROUGH NOMINATION AND SELECTION PROCESS INVOLVING STAFF, STUDENTS, FAMILIES, AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
MANY OTHER TEAM BCPS STAFF MEMBERS WILL ALSO BE HONORED.
CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF THE TEACHERS WHO HAVE BEEN INDIVIDUALLY NOMINATED BY THEIR SCHOOLS.
AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO TO HELP OUR STUDENTS SUCCEED.
ROGER'S PRIORITIES HAS BEEN TO PROVIDE HIGH QUALITY, CONSISTENT PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT TO IMPROVE TEACHING AND LEARNING.
THE ONGOING IMPLEMENTATION OF RESEARCH FOR BETTER TEACHING HAS PROVIDED STAFF WITH SYSTEMIC, COHERENT AND RESEARCH-BASED PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT.
DURING MY RECENT VISITS TO SCHOOLS, I HAVE OBSERVED EVIDENCE OF THIS PROFESSIONAL LEARNING IN PRACTICE AND CLASSROOMS. THE STRATEGIC AND DELIBERATE ROLLOUT THAT BEGAN WITH EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS AND PROGRESSED THROUGH SCHOOL-BASED ADMINISTRATORS AND ULTIMATELY REACHING CLASSROOM TEACHERS HAS ENSURED THAT THE DELIVERY OF A CONSISTENT MESSAGE OF BEST PRACTICES.
IT WAS SUPPORTED BY ONGOING FOLLOW-UP BY ADMINISTRATORS AND OTHER SUPPORT STAFF.
PRINCIPALS COMMENTED TO ME THAT THEY CONSIDER THIS TRAINING TO BE THE MOST EFFECTIVE PD THEY HAVE PARTICIPATED IN IN QUITE SOME TIME.
I EXTEND MY APPRECIATION TO ALL WHO CONTRIBUTED TO THE SELECTION, THE PROCUREMENT, THE DESIGN AND IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT FOR OUR SYSTEM.
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE CONTINUED APPLICATION OF THIS NEW LEARNING INTO EVERYDAY TEACHING.
AS FAR AS THE SUPERINTENDENT SEARCH UPDATE, UM, THIS EVENING, UM, THE BOARD WILL SEEK APPROVAL TO ENGAGE A NATIONAL SEARCH FIRM TO FACILITATE THE SELECTION OF OUR NEXT SUPERINTENDENT.
UPON APPROVAL OF THE CONTRACT, THE BOARD WILL THEN BEGIN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE SEARCH FIRM TO START THAT SELECTION PROCESS.
UPDATES WE PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC THROUGH THE BCPS WEBSITE AND THROUGH THE MONTHLY CHAIR'S REPORT.
[H. STUDENT BOARD MEMBER'S REPORT (7:30 - 7:35 p.m.)]
IS OUR STUDENT MEMBER OF THE BOARD'S REPORT.GOOD EVENING CHAIR LICHTER SUPERINTENDENT DR. ROGERS MEMBERS OF THE BOARD STAFF FAMILIES IN THE BCPS COMMUNITY.
OVER THE PAST MONTH, I'VE BEEN CONSISTENTLY WORKING WITH THE BALTIMORE COUNTY STUDENT COUNCILS WHERE WE HOSTED MULTIPLE EVENTS AND CONTINUE BRINGING, BUILD, BUILDING STRONG OPPORTUNITIES FOR STUDENT INVOLVEMENT.
ONE OF THE MOST EXCITING DEVELOPMENTS HAS BEEN THE SELECTION OF OUR NEW BCSC LEADERSHIP TEAM.
WATCHING THIS NEW GROUP OF STUDENT LEADERS STEP INTO THEIR ROLES HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY INSPIRING AND I'M CONFIDENT THEY'LL BRING FRESH IDEAS, ENERGY, AND COMMITMENT TO STRENGTHENING STUDENT VOICE ACROSS BALTIMORE COUNTY.
ON MARCH 25TH, WE HOSTED OUR STUDENT RESOURCES AND WELLNESS SEMINAR, WHICH FOCUSED ON CONNECTING STUDENTS WITH IMPORTANT SUPPORTS AND CONTINUING CONVERSATIONS AROUND STUDENT WELLBEING.
STUDENTS HEARD FROM MRS. CASTOR, OUR COORDINATOR OF SCHOOL COUNSELING FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF STUDENT SUPPORT AND SERVICES, AND MR. HOPKINS, A SCHOOL COUNSELOR WHO EX EXPLAINED THAT TO UNFAMILIAR STUDENTS, HOW STUDENTS CAN UTILIZE ZELLO OUR NEW PLATFORM EVEN OUTSIDE OF THEIR SENIOR YEAR.
IN ADDITION, WE RECENTLY RECORDED AND PUBLISHED OUR OFFICIAL STUDENT MEMBER OF THE BOARD Q AND A, WHERE OUR TWO FINALISTS ANSWERED QUESTIONS SUBMITTED DIRECTLY BY BCPS STUDENTS.
AS A REMINDER, VOTING WILL TAKE PLACE ON APRIL 23RD AND ANY BCPS MIDDLE OR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT IS ELIGIBLE TO VOTE.
I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE ALL ELIGIBLE, ELIGIBLE STUDENTS TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROCESS.
MORE INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE BCPS WEBSITE.
WE ALSO RECENTLY HELD ANOTHER IN-PERSON BOARD OF SELECTED STUDENTS MEETING THIS TIME, BRINGING STUDENTS TOGETHER FROM THE CENTRAL AREA.
THESE MEETINGS CONTINUE TO BE A POWERFUL SPACE FOR STUDENTS TO SHARE THEIR PERSPECTIVES.
LASTLY, I WOULD LIKE TO APPLAUD THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO SHOWED UP TODAY IN SUPPORT OF POLICY 1250, ESPECIALLY MY FELLOW STUDENTS.
YOUR ADVOCACY AND PASSION FOR OUR COMMUNITY IS TRULY INSPIRING AND IS EXACTLY WHY SITTING ON THIS DIOCESE SO IMPORTANT TO ME.
THANK YOU TO MS. PUMPHREY FOR SPEARHEADING THIS POLICY AND THE REST OF THE POLICY REVIEW COMMITTEE THAT I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING ALONGSIDE FOR YOUR WORK AND COMMITMENT TOWARDS PROTECTING BCPS STUDENTS AND FAMILIES OVERALL.
THIS PAST PAST MONTH HAS BEEN A REFLECTION OF CONTINUED PROGRESS IN STRENGTHENING STUDENT LEADERSHIP, INCREASING ACCESS TO RESOURCES AND CREATING SPACES WHERE STUDENT VOICES CAN BE HEARD AND VALUED.
THANK YOU TO EVERY STUDENT, STAKEHOLDER, DECISION MAKER AND EDUCATOR WHO CONTINUES TO SPEAK UP, ENGAGE AND CONTRIBUTE TO MAKING OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM STRONGER.
[I. UNFINISHED BUSINESS - CENTRAL AREA ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW BOUNDARY CHANGE (Dr. Grim) (7:35 - 7:45 p.m.)]
ON THE AGENDA IS UNFINISHED BUSINESS CONSIDERATION OF THE CENTRAL AREA ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW BOUNDARY RECOMMENDATIONS.[01:30:01]
AND MS. LER.GOOD EVENING CHAIR, LICHTER, SUPERINTENDENT DR. ROGERS MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
WE'RE HERE THIS EVENING FOR THE, UM, BOARD'S DECISION ON THE CENTRAL AREA, UH, BOUNDARY REVIEW PROCESS AS SHARED WITH THE BOARD ON MARCH THE 24TH.
SO MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CENTRAL AREA ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW BOUNDARY RECOMMENDATION AS PRESENTED? SO MOVED.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND TOBE.
MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE PLEASE.
[J. UNFINISHED BUSINESS - BOARD POLICIES (Ms. Pumphrey) (7:45 -7:55 p.m.)]
ON THE AGENDA IS UNFINISHED BUSINESS BOARD POLICIES.THIS IS THE SECOND READER FOR THESE POLICIES AND FOR THAT I CALL ON MS. CHRISTINA PUMPHREY, CHAIR OF THE POLICY REVIEW COMMITTEE.
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, THE POLICY REVIEW COMMITTEE ASKS THAT THE BOARD ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION TO AMEND THE FOLLOWING BOARD POLICIES BOARD POLICY 2361 DISTRIBUTION OF NON-SCHOOL MATERIALS BOARD POLICY, 5,000 STUDENTS BOARD POLICY, 6,800 FIELD TRIPS AND FOREIGN TRAVEL STUDY PROGRAMS. THESE POLICIES ARE PRESENTED TO YOU ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA AS EXHIBITS J ONE THROUGH J THREE.
THANK YOU MS. EY, BOARD MEMBERS, ARE THERE ANY SEPARATIONS REQUESTED OF THOSE THREE POLICIES? OKAY.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE BOARD'S POLICY REVIEW COMMITTEE FOR BOARD POLICIES? 2361.
SINCE THE RECOMMENDATION COMES FROM THE COMMITTEE, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY.
MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.
[K. NEW BUSINESS - ACTION TAKEN IN CLOSED SESSION (Board Counsel) (7:55 - 8:00 p.m.)]
THE AGENDA IS ACTION TAKEN IN CLOSED SESSION.AND FOR THAT I CALL ON MR. BURNS.
DR. ROGERS MEMBER OF THE BOARD, UH, THIS EVENING THE BOARD, UH, TOOK ACTION ON APPEAL HEA 26 DASH 0 1 9 AND NOW IT'LL BE AN APPROPRIATE TIME FOR YOU TO AFFIRM THAT ACTION.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ACTION TAKEN ENC CLOSED SESSION ON HEARING EXAMINER CASE HEA 2026 DASH ZERO 16 AND AUTHORIZE MS. GOR TO SIGN FOR THOSE BOARD MEMBERS NOT PHYSICALLY PRESENT.
MADAM CHAIR CLARIFICATION? YES.
I BELIEVE MR. BURN SAID 0 0 1 9.
YOU SAID 0 0 1 6 MIGHT HAVE, IT'S 0 0 1 6 0 0 1 6.
YOU'RE RIGHT AT 0 0 1 6 IS CORRECT.
OKAY, SO MAY I,
DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR HEA 26 DASH 0 0 1 6.
ANY DISCUSSION? MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE PLEASE.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ACTION TAKEN DURING ORAL ARGUMENT ON HEARING EXAMINER'S CASE HEA 27 26 DASH 0 1 9 AND AUTHORIZED MS. GO TO SIGN FOR THOSE BOARD MEMBERS NOT PHYSICALLY PRESENT? SO MU YOUNG THANK YOU.
MAY I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND HAND.
ANY DISCUSSION? MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE PLEASE.
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MR. YOUNG? YES.[L. NEW BUSINESS - BOARD POLICIES (Ms. Pumphrey) (8:00 - 8:10 p.m.)]
ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS NEW BUSINESS REPORT ON BOARD POLICIES.THIS IS THE FIRST READER FOR THIS POLICY AND FOR THAT I CALL MS. CHRISTINA PUMPHREY, CHAIR OF THE POLICY REVIEW COMMITTEE.
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, THE POLICY REVIEW COMMITTEE, ASK THAT THE BOARD ACCEPT THIS REPORT OF THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION ON THE PROPOSED NEW BOARD POLICY 1250 IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT ACCESS TO SCHOOL BUILDINGS.
THIS POLICY IS PRESENTED TO YOU ONCE.
TONIGHT'S AGENDA AS EXHIBITS L ONE.
THANK YOU MS. PUMPHREY, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE BOARD'S POLICY REVIEW COMMITTEE FOR BOARD POLICY 1250.
NO SECOND IS NEEDED SINCE THE RECOMMENDATION COMES FROM THE COMMITTEE.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION MS. PUMPHREY? I HAVE A MOTION TO AMEND.
UM, I PUT IT IN THE CHAT AND THEN WHEN YOU'RE READY, I CAN READ IT.
UM, MOTION TO AMEND POLICY 1250 BY STRIKING THE WORDS QUARTERLY BASIS IN SECTION TWO E, LINE SEVEN AND EIGHT AND INSERTING THE WORDS YEARLY BASIS, PERIOD.
EMPLOYEES AND CONTRACTUAL WORKERS WHO ARE HIRED AFTER SAID TRAINING HAS OCCURRED, WILL BE TRAINED AS PART OF THE ON ONBOARDING PROCESS.
AND IN SECTION TWO E, LINE 15, BY STRIKING THE WORDS PER QUARTER AND INSERTING THE WORDS PER YEAR PERIOD.
COUNSELORS WHO ARE HIRED AFTER SAID TRAINING HAS OCCURRED, WILL BE TRAINED AS PART OF THE ONBOARDING PROCESS.
IS THERE A SECOND TO MS. HUMPHREY'S? MOTION? SECOND SULASKI.
MS. PUMPHREY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOUR AMENDMENT? YES.
I'M MAKING THE AMENDMENT BASED UPON OTHER TRAINING THAT HAPPENS IN OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM.
UM, IT STILL LEAVES IT BROAD ENOUGH AS FAR AS, UM, GIVING BECAUSE IT SAYS, UM, AT LEAST A YEARLY BASIS.
IT STILL GIVES THE SYSTEM THE ABILITY TO TRAIN MORE OFTEN IF THEY DEEM IT NECESSARY, BUT KEEPS IT IN LINE WITH TRAINING THAT WE ALREADY HAVE AS A SYSTEM.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON HER AMENDED MOTION TO AMEND IT'S IN THE CHAT FOR BOARD MEMBERS.
I DON'T SEE ANYBODY WITH THEIR HAND UP.
SO, MAY WE HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THE AMENDED MOTION ON THE MOTION TO AMEND.
MS. HEN, JUST TO CLARIFY, WE'RE VOTING ON THE MOTION TO AMEND THE MOTION.
THE RIGHT, THE MOTION TO AMEND THAT IS STATED BY MS. HUMPHREY.
SO NOW WE'RE GOING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION, CORRECT.
ANY FURTHER, MR. YOUNG? I JUST HAD A QUESTION.
UM, AND IT'S, IT'S MAINLY RELATED TO THE TITLE BECAUSE IT SAYS ACCESS TO SCHOOL BUILDINGS, BUT YET INSIDE OF THE POLICY WE DEFINE NON-PUBLIC SPACES SUCH AS, UM, BUS STOPS.
SO WHAT WAS THE RATIONALE FOR JUST LABOR MAKING IT, UM, ACCESS TO SCHOOL BUILDINGS INSTEAD OF SOMETHING MORE GENERIC? GO AHEAD, MS. EY.
UM, THE ONLY WAY I CAN SPEAK TO THAT IS THAT WHEN THE POLICY WAS PRESENTED TO STAFF, UM, TO HELP FORMULATE THE WORDING, UM, I DIDN'T HAVE A NAME AND I REQUESTED THAT THEY SUGGEST A NAME, AND THAT WAS THEIR SUGGEST SUGGESTION BASED ON THE POLICY ANALYSIS.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION MS. HUMPHREY? JUST A COMMENT.
FIRST, I WANTED TO THANK EVAN AND WILMER, UM, YOU KNOW, WAY MORE THAN US ADULTS KNOW, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING AND SPEAKING TONIGHT.
UM, I I WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR, UM, THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CHILDREN, SORRY, I'M GETTING CHOKED UP.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CHILDREN WHO DO NOT GET TO CHOOSE WHERE THEY'RE BORN.
CHILDREN WHO DON'T GET TO CHOOSE WHERE THEY LIVE OR WHERE THEY MOVE.
WE'RE NOT FIGHTING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
WE DON'T HAVE, I AGREE WITH MR. WITH DR.
WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO FIGHT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
THIS DOES NOT GO AGAINST WHAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SAYS.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, UM, WE ARE
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ACTUALLY IN LINE WITH SUPREME COURT RULING THAT REQUIRES US TO, MAKES US OBLIGATED TO EDUCATE CHILDREN REGARDLESS OF IMMIGRATION STATUS.ALL OF OUR CHILDREN SHOULD BE MADE TO FEEL WELCOME IN SCHOOL.
WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO, TO NOT ON, NOT ONLY UNDER THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, BUT I BELIEVE A MORAL OBLIGATION TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE STUDENTS ARE EDUCATED AND FEEL SAFE AND ESPECIALLY FEEL WELCOMED IN OUR SCHOOL.
ALL STUDENTS WILL FEEL WELCOME IN OUR SCHOOL.
UM, I THINK THAT THIS IS THE TIME WHERE WE NEED TO PUT POLITICS ASIDE AND MAKE A DECISION THAT MAKES ALL OF OUR CHILDREN FEEL WELCOME AND SAFE.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE A RESOLUTION IN PLACE TO SUPPORT THIS INITIATIVE, AND THIS POLICY ALIGNS WITH THE RESOLUTION TO MAKE OUR PROCEDURES WHEN DEALING WITH IMMIGRATION ENFOR ENFORCEMENT MORE CONCRETE AND WILL ENSURE, ESPECIALLY ASSURE CONSISTENCY THROUGHOUT ALL SCHOOLS.
UM, REGARDING THE TRAINING PORTION, THERE WERE QUESTIONS AT THE EQUITY COMMITTEE COMMITTEE MEETING THAT I POSED REGARDING HOW OUR, OUR, UM, STAFF MEMBERS ARE TRAINED.
AND THE RESPONSE WAS THAT PRINCIPALS WERE TRAINED.
UM, BUT I BELIEVE THAT IF AMASSED ARM ICE AGENT ARRIVES AT THE SCHOOL AT THE FRONT DOOR OF A SCHOOL, IT COULD BE A FRIGHTENING EXPERIENCE FOR STAFF MEMBERS, UM, WHO ARE ALSO OPENING THE DOORS TO THOSE PEOPLE, WHETHER OR NOT THEY CAN OPEN THE DOORS.
SO WE NEED OUR FRONT OFFICE STAFF ALSO TO BE TRAINED TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE, THEY ARE COMFORTABLE WITH HOW THEY SHOULD RESPOND AND HOW THEY SHOULD LEGALLY RESPOND.
UM, WE NOW KNOW THE IMPACT THAT IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT HAS HAD ON OUR STUDENTS.
WE'VE RECENTLY RECEIVED OUR MONTHLY REPORT REGARDING, REGARDING MULTILINGUAL LEARNERS REGARDING ATTENDANCE, WHICH CONFIRMS THE IMPACT THIS IS HAVING ON OUR STUDENTS.
UM, SO I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THIS POLICY PASSED FOR A YEAR NOW, AND I JUST, UM, THINK THAT WE HAVE NO MORE TIME TO DELAY TO GET THIS PRO PASSED.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION MS. HEN? THANK YOU.
UM, SO I HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE LEGALITY AND, AND THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT I AM NOT SENSITIVE TO THE CONCERNS OR CARE ABOUT THE CONCERNS RAISED THIS EVENING.
I HAD ASKED IN COMMITTEE WHETHER OR NOT THIS POLICY HAD BEEN REVIEWED BY GENERAL COUNSEL, BOARD COUNCIL AND BALTIMORE COUNTY COUNCIL.
UM, ONE SPECIFIC CONCERN I HAVE IS THE LANGUAGE UNDER THREE B NON-PUBLIC SPACES, UM, READS ALL AREAS OF BCPS PROPERTY, INCLUDING BUS STOPS, ARE DESIGNATED AS NON-PUBLIC SPACES.
UM, ONE IS THE CONVENTION THAT REFERS TO BCPS PROPERTY AS BOARD PROPERTY.
THERE ARE SEVERAL INSTANCES OF, UM, BCPS WHERE I BELIEVE STANDARD, UM, CONVENTION REFER SHOULD REFER TO THAT AS BOARD PROPERTY.
BUT I QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN REFER TO BUS STOPS AS, UM, BOARD PROPERTY AS THEY ARE NOT, UM, BOARD PROPERTY.
THEY ARE, UM, PUBLIC PROPERTY OR PRIVATELY OWNED PROP PROPERTY VERSUS BOARD PROPERTY.
SO MY, MY ONE CONCERN IS THREE B AND WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN, UM, DO THAT WITHIN OUR PO WITHIN OUR POLICY IS THEY'RE NOT BOARD PROPERTY AND DESIGNATE THEM AS NON-PUBLIC SPACES.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF, UM, MS. HUMPHREY RECEIVED ADVICE FROM GENERAL COUNSEL.
I KNOW THAT GENERAL COUNSEL REVIEWED THIS, BUT THAT'S ONE, ONE SPECIFIC CONCERN I HAVE ABOUT THE LANGUAGE.
AND MY SECOND CONCERN IS THAT THE POLICY LANGUAGE ITSELF DOES NOT, UM, SEEM TO ADHERE TO CONVENTIONS FOR BOARD POLICIES.
MS. HUMPHREY, I CAN SAY THAT, UM, BEFORE OR WHEN THIS POLICY WAS PRESENTED TO STAFF FOR, UM, REVIEW, TO HELP US FORMULATE THE WORDING, I DID REQUEST THAT GENERAL COUNSEL REVIEW THE POLICY AND PROVIDE THEIR INPUT AND, AND THEIR INPUT WENT INTO, UM, WRITING THE POLICY AS IT STANDS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT WE MADE.
I I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW, THIS IS THE FIRST READER, CORRECT? YES.
SO, SO IF WE PASS, PASS THIS, IT WOULD STILL GO BACK AND FOR REVIEW AND MORE CHANGES COULD BE MADE OR COULD THERE BE MORE, UM, INPUT FROM GENERAL COUNSEL TO REVIEW AND MAKE SURE ALL OF OUR I'S ARE DOTTED AND OUR T'S ARE CROSSED? IF I'M, I, I BELIEVE I'M CORRECT AND MR. BURNS CAN CHIME IN ON THIS.
ON THIS, IF IT PASSES FIRST READER, WE CAN REQUEST THAT IT BE REVIEWED AGAIN BY GENERAL COUNSEL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? MS. HEN I WOULD MOVE TO AMEND THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
UM, MAY WE HAVE THAT, THAT MOTION READ AGAIN? OR I CAN MAKE MY, UM, AMENDMENT WITHOUT THAT MOTION.
I, I WOULD MOVE TO AMEND IT BY ADDING A REVIEW, UH, BY, BY BOARD COUNSEL IF WE ACCEPT THE, THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE POLICY COMMITTEE.
SO WE HAD THE FIRST MOTION, THEN WE HAVE A MOTION TO AMEND, WHICH WE ALREADY PASSED AND WE HAVE NOT YET.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION, WE NOW HAVE A MOTION AS AMENDED ON THE, ON THE FLOOR.
WE PASSED THE MOTION TO AMEND.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION
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RIGHT.I MOVE TO AMEND THAT MOTION, WHICH WOULD BE A SECOND.
AND WHAT IS YOUR MOTION TO AMEND? WHAT WOULD IT STATE? I, MY MOTION TO AMEND WOULD BE AND REFER AND ASK BOARD COUNSEL TO REVIEW THE POLICY AND BRING RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD.
SO YOU'RE ADDING THAT ON TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION? CORRECT.
CAN I, CAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I AMEND.
CAN WE ADD TO THE END OF THAT OR WOULD YOU AGREE TO ADDING TO THE END OF THAT PRIOR TO SECOND READER? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S NECESSARY, BUT I WOULD ADD PRIOR TO SECOND READER.
DID YOU SAY BOARD COUNCIL OR DID YOU SAY, UM, BOARD.
AND I CAN PUT THAT IN THE CHAT.
IS THERE A SECOND TO MS. HENS? SECOND DOKI.
UM, DO YOU WANT TO FURTHER DISCUSS IT OR YOU'VE RIGHT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDED MOTION? OKAY.
SO IS EVERYBODY STRAIGHT ON WHAT THE AMENDED MOTION THEY'RE ABOUT TO VOTE ON IS BE READ AGAIN FOR THE RECORD CHAIR? YES, OF COURSE.
SO CHAIR, I PUT IT IN THE CHAT AS WELL.
SO YOU PUT THE ENDING OR THE WHOLE THING IN THE CHAT? I PUT THE ENDING IN THE CHAT.
SO I'M GONNA READ THE BEGINNING.
UM, SO IT WAS, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE BOARD'S POLICY REVIEW COMMITTEE FOR BOARD POLICY 1250 AND ASK BOARD COUNCIL TO REVIEW THE PRIOR, THE POLICY PRIOR TO SECOND READER AND BRING RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE FULL BOARD.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? DID WE HAVE WE HAD A SECOND, CORRECT.
MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE, MR. YOUNG? SORRY.
SO WE'RE BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION AS AS AMENDED.
MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE PLEASE.
SO, SO, AND I'D LIKE TO THANK MS. HUMPHREY FOR HER LEADERSHIP AND THE POLICY AND REVIEW COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
I BELIEVE THAT'S MS. HEN AND MS. OBE AND MS. KY.
I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION.
I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN MS. F I'M SORRY, WHAT? MS. F.
AND MS. F, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS, UM, AND YOUR CONTINUED EFFORTS TO BRING IT TONIGHT.
AND IF Y'ALL WANNA APPLAUD ONE MORE TIME, GO FOR IT.
NOW IS WHEN YOU ARE GONNA GET UP AND LEAVE, RIGHT? IT'S OKAY,
ALL RIGHT, LET ME SEE WHERE WE ARE.
[M. NEW BUSINESS - SPECIAL PROJECT REQUEST (Dr. Jones) (8:10 - 8:15 p.m.)]
ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS NEW BUSINESS SPECIAL PROJECT REQUEST.AND FOR THAT I CALL ON DR. JONES.
DR. JONES GONNA TALK ABOUT TREES AFTER THIS, RIGHT?
GOOD EVENING, BOARD CHAIR, LICHTER, SUPERINTENDENT ROGERS AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I BRING BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
THE 73 30 SPECIAL PROJECT FOR THE MAIDEN CHOICE SCHOOL TREE PLANTING IN COLLABORATION WITH PATAPSCO HERITAGE, GREENWAY MAIDEN CHOICE WOULD LIKE TO PLANT 15 TREES ON THE SCHOOL GROUNDS TO CREATE A TREE CANOPY THAT WILL REDUCE THE HEAT INDEX IN THE PLAY AREAS.
THE PLANTING PROPOSES THREE PLANTING AREAS, AS WAS STATED, 15 TREES WILL BE PLANTED THROUGHOUT THE PLANTING AREAS.
THE PROPOSED TREE SELECTIONS AND LOCATIONS ON THE PLANTING PLANS ARE STRATEGICALLY LOCATED TO OFFER THE STUDENTS AND STAFF SHADING UPON THE HEIGHTENED CANOPY SPREAD OF EACH TREE SPECIES.
THE AMOUNT FOR THE DONATION FOR THIS PROJECT IS $32,807 AND 70 CENTS.
IT'S ANTICIPATED THAT THE PLANTING WOULD OCCUR DURING THIS TIME IN THE SPRING.
FUNDING AND SUPPORT HAS BEEN PROVIDED AS WAS STATED BY PATAPSCO HERITAGE AND UNDER AND THROUGH AN URBAN TREE GRANT.
AT THIS TIME, WE ARE SEEKING BOARD APPROVAL FOR THE 73 73 30
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PLANTING PROJECT AT MEETING CHOICE.MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE SCHOOL PROJECT REQUEST FOR THE MAIDEN CHOICE SCHOOL TREE PLANTING AS PRESENTED IN EXHIBIT M? SO MOVE HUMPHREY.
MAY I HAVE A SECOND, SECOND HAND ANY DISCUSSION AND JUST MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE PLEASE.
AND THANKS TO THE FUNDER FOR THE TREES.
FOR THE RECORD, THE AMOUNT OF THE DONATION IS $13,807 AND 70 CENTS.
ACCIDENTALLY IT WAS SAYS 32,000.
I JUST WANT THAT FOR THE RECORD.
I DIDN'T WANT THE FUNDER TO CHANGE THEIR MIND.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CORRECTION.
[N. NEW BUSINESS - CONTRACT AWARDS (Dr. Grim) (8:15 - 8:30 p.m.)]
ON THE AGENDA IS CONTRACT AWARDS.AND FOR THAT I CALL MR. YOUNG CHAIR OF THE BUILDINGS AND CONTRACTS COMMITTEE.
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, THE BOARD'S BUILDING AND CONTRACTS COMMITTEE MET ON MONDAY, APRIL 20, 20, 26.
ITEMS N ONE THROUGH N 20 WERE FORWARDED TO THE FULL BOARD FOR APPROVAL.
THANK YOU MR. YOUNG, BOARD MEMBERS.
ARE THERE ANY SEPARATIONS? OKAY.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS N ONE THROUGH N 20? SO MOVE TO MS. HEN.
NO SECOND AS NEEDED SINCE THE RECOMMENDATION COMES FROM THE COMMITTEE.
ANY DISCUSSION? MR. MCMILLIAN? UH, ON MY, MY COMPUTER SCREEN, THERE'S A LITTLE MOCK NEXT TO THE CONTRACT.
IS THAT GOING TO BE RELEASED AT POINT OR IS ANYBODY ELSE SAYING REFRESH? REFRESH? IT'S REAL LIVE CHANGES.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? MS. HEN? I HAVE A QUESTION.
ON THE, UM, PERRY HALL TRACK CONTRACT, UM, GIVEN THE SCOPE INCREASE, UM, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF THE SCHEDULE WILL CHANGE OR IF IT'S STILL ON SCHEDULE FOR COMPLETION BY THE FALL.
WE LOOK LIKE WE'RE GETTING GOOD EVENING.
SO ON THAT PARTICULAR CONTRACT, UM, ONCE THE CONTRACTORS STARTED TO DIG INTO THE SOIL, THEY DISCOVERED THAT ADDITIONAL WORK WAS NECESSARY.
UM, I BELIEVE IT'S STILL ON TRACK FOR THIS IF THE BOARD PASSES IT, WE'RE ON SCHEDULE STILL FOR THIS SUMMER, RIGHT? THE FINANCIAL PART THAT, THAT YOU'RE APPROVING TODAY IS DEFINITELY HELP.
WE HAVE A, GETTING A PRIORITY REVIEW FROM THE COUNTY.
UM, IT WENT FROM A RESURFACING PROJECT TO A REPLACEMENT PROJECT, BUT WE'VE DEALT WITH, UM, THE PERMITTING OFFICES, OFFICES ALREADY, AND IT'S ALMOST LIKE A REPLACE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA BE TAKING THE SOIL OUT AND KIND.
UM, SO IT'S, WE CAN'T START CONSTRUCTION YET.
BUT, UM, THE DIRECTOR, UM, APPROVE THE PRIORITY REVIEW.
SO WE'RE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO GET IT, YOU KNOW, GET, GET IT BACK ON TRACK FOR THE, THE COMPLETION OF THIS SUMMER.
DO, DO WE KNOW THE, THE DUR THE DURATION? I MEAN IN TERMS OF WHAT IS INVOLVED WITH THE FULL REPLACEMENT VERSUS THE RESURFACING? IF IT WAS ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FOR COMPLETION BY THE, THE START OF SCHOOL, AND NOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT A COMPLETE, WE'RE, WE'RE HOPING WITHOUT HAVING THE START OF CONSTRUCTION AFTER THE PERMIT, I'M, WE'RE ASSUMING THAT WE'RE GONNA BE GETTING IT VERY SOON, AND THEN WE'RE STILL FOR THE START OF SCHOOL.
WE'RE GONNA DO EVERYTHING WE CAN DO TO TRY TO EXPEDITE THE WORK.
THE THE CONCERN IS WITH FALL SPORTS, AND THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS I'M GETTING FROM THE COMMUNITY.
CERTAINLY IT, IT'S PO IT'S POSSIBLE IT WILL BE ON TRACK.
WE SHOULD HAVE MORE INFORMATION VERY SOON.
YEAH, WE, WE, WE COULD HAVE MORE INFORMATION NEXT MONTH.
WE CAN DO A FOLLOW UP TO THE BOARD.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MS. DOKI? YES.
I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT, UM, N 14 DIRECT CONTROL OF, UM, HEATING AND AIR CONDITIONING SERVICES CONTINUED.
WHAT DOES THAT, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY DIRECT CONTROL? IN THE CONTRACT, IT SAYS THE CONTRACT MODIFICATION WILL PROVIDE FOR THE CONTINUED DIRECT DIGITAL CONTROL OF HEATING,
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VENTILATION, AND AIR CONDITIONING DEVICES.SO THIS IS, UM, THIS IS PART OF OUR BUILDING AUTOMATION SYSTEMS. SO DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF HEATING AND COOLING SYSTEMS THAT WE DO HAVE, WE HAVE SENSORS IN MANY OF OUR BUILDINGS, NOT ALL OF OUR, OUR BUILDINGS.
UM, THEY HELP US, UM, THEY HELP US OPEN AND CLOSE CERTAIN DAMPERS AND OTHER SYSTEMS WITHIN THE BUILDING REMOTELY.
THEY HELP US TO DO IT, UM, ON SITE REMOTELY THROUGH THE USE OF COMPUTERS AND TO DIAGNOSE WHEN THERE'S ISSUES.
UM, SO THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT, UM, GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE, UM, TO CONTINUE TO THAT WORK TO EXTEND THE CONTRACT.
IS THERE A REASON, AND WITH THIS DIRECT, UM, CONTROL, ARE YOU ABLE TO ACTUALLY, LIKE, SAY IT'S UNSEASONABLY WARM OR UNSEASONABLY COLD, CAN YOU CHANGE THE HEATING AND THE AIR CONDITIONING TO MAKE IT MORE COMFORTABLE IN, IN THOSE BUILDINGS WHERE THESE SENSORS ARE IN, IN, IN SOME OF THEM, YES.
THE REASON WHY IT'S NOT IN ALL OF OUR BUILDINGS IS BECAUSE SOME OF THE, THE HEATING AND COOLING SYSTEMS WE HAVE ARE INCOMPATIBLE WITH THIS TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY.
UM, SO IT, SO THE, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT, UM, IT'S NOT POSSIBLE.
IT'S NOT PRACTICABLE FOR US TO OUTFIT ALL OF OUR SCHOOLHOUSES WITH THIS TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY.
UM, SOMETIMES THE TECH, THE TECHNOLOGY GIVES US A WARNING OR AN INDICATOR AND WE CAN FIX IT REMOTELY.
SOMETIMES IT GIVES THE, THE TECHNICIANS ADDITIONAL DATA THAT THEY NEED ON SITE TO REGULATE THE TEMPERATURES FROM ONE, FROM ONE SPACE TO ANOTHER.
THIS IS JUST FOR A, A FUTURE, UM, PRESENTATION.
IF WE COULD GET AN UPDATE ON HOW MANY OF SCHOOLS DO NOT HAVE THIS TECHNOLOGY AND WHAT OUR, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS GETTING THEM, UH, THEIR UPGRADED SYSTEM SO THAT WE CAN INSTALL THIS AND ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS CAN BE, YOU KNOW, DIRECTLY THE WAY THAT THE OLD ONES WERE ALL DONE WITH PNEUMATICS, WHICH WAS AIR THAT WOULD BE DO THINGS THAT THE DDC, IT'S AN INDUSTRY STANDARD, UM, OF, YOU KNOW, THE ELECTRONIC ONES.
SO THERE ISN'T ANY PLAN TO UPGRADE TO ANY SCHOOL BUILDINGS TO GET SO THAT ALL OF THEM CAN BE THIS WAY? NO.
SO THERE'S, SO THERE'S SOME SYSTEMS THAT ARE, THAT ARE JUST, THAT ARE INCOMPATIBLE.
THE TECHNOLOGY'S NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE TYPE OF CONTROLS, WITH THE TYPE OF HEATING OR COOLING CONTROLS.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE, UM, NOT TO GET TOO DEEP IN THE WEEDS, WE HAVE, WE HAVE SOME HEATING SYSTEMS THAT ARE, UM, THAT ARE, THAT ARE, UH, COMPLETELY, UH, OIL.
UM, WE HAVE OTHERS THAT ARE, UM, THAT ARE THERMAL.
UM, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE TECHNOLOGY IS AND HOW NEW THE BI THE, THE SYSTEMS ARE.
SOME CAN BE CONTROLLED REMOTELY.
OTHERS ARE CONTROLLED BY MANUAL TURNING OF, OF VALVES.
THEY'RE CONTROLLED THROUGH PISTONS.
THEY'RE CONTROLLED SIMPLY ON SITE.
UM, SOME, DO WE STILL HAVE ANY OLD AMMONIA SYSTEMS? WE, WE'VE GOT ALL KINDS OF, UM, DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGY THROUGHOUT THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
SO IT, IT WOULD BE FEASIBLY IMPRACTICAL TO, UM, TO UPDATE OUR OLDEST SYSTEMS WITH SOME OF THE NEWER TECHNOLOGY.
A GOOD EXAMPLE IS, IS DELANEY DELANEY'S HEATING AND COOLING SYSTEM IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH THIS TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY.
UM, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY BEING SOLVED BY A NEW BUILDING.
UM, AS WE UPGRADE, UH, MECHANICAL AND ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS WITHIN BUILDINGS, SOMETIMES IT'S FEASIBLE FOR US TO, UM, TO DO THIS WORK AT THAT TIME.
BUT ALL OF THESE THINGS WORK TOGETHER.
UM, WHETHER IT'S MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING, THEY ALL WORK TOGETHER.
SO SOME, IT'S JUST NOT PO IT'S JUST NOT POSSIBLE TO UPGRADE THEM.
I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE COULD GET, UH, YOU KNOW, A LIST OF THE HIGH AT RISK SCHOOLS THAT ARE NOT GONNA BE GETTING AN UPDATE ANYTIME SOON.
WHETHER BECAUSE OF THEIR BUILDINGS ARE SOLD, THERE'S NO PLANS TO, YOU KNOW, UPGRADE THEIR ELECTRIC OR THEIR AC HVAC.
UM, I MEAN, WE LIVE IN MARYLAND, THE WEATHER, YOU GET FOUR SEASONS IN ONE MONTH.
IT'S JUST, UM, I I THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME, I'M JUST WONDERING IF SOME OF THESE SCHOOLS THAT WERE GOT SO MUCH HEAT LAST, YOU KNOW, EXCRUCIATING HOT LAST WEEK AND THEY COULDN'T TURN THE AIR CONDITIONING ON.
SO, AND JUST TO SPEAK TO THAT, AND I'M SORRY NOT TO CUT YOU OFF, MS. DOKI.
THE, UM, ALL, ALL OF THE BOILERS IN ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS WERE TURNED OFF PRIOR TO LAST WEEK.
WE ACTUALLY TURNED THEM OFF EARLIER THAN WE HAD COMMUNICATED OUT.
OUR TEAM, UH, MADE SURE THAT THEY WERE TAKING A LOOK AT THE FORECAST.
THEY WERE DOING THEIR, THEIR HOMEWORK AHEAD OF TIME.
THEY WORKED OVER THE SPRING BREAK TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENED.
THERE'S A PERIOD IN TIME IN EVERY HEATING AND COOLING SEASON WHERE THERE'S ACTUALLY NO HEATING OR COOLING HAPPENING IN THE SCHOOLHOUSE BECAUSE THERE'S A CONVERSION THAT HAS TO OCCUR.
UM, AS MR. WELSH SHARED LAST NIGHT IN BUILDING AND CONTRACTS, THE SAME PIPES THAT CARRY,
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UM, WATER IN EXCESS OF 140 DEGREES ARE CA FOR HEATING ARE CARRYING, UM, 40 DEGREE WATERS TO DO 40 DEGREE WATER TO DO THE COOLING.IF WE'RE NOT VERY CAREFUL ABOUT HOW WE CONVERT THAT PROCESS, MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF OUR LINES ARE PROPERLY BLED WITH AIR, UM, SO THAT THERE'S NO WATER IN THEM, WE, UM, WE RISK BURSTING THOSE, THOSE PIPES.
IT'S, IT'S VERY UNLIKE OUR HOME SYSTEMS WHERE WE CAN, UM, ESSENTIALLY TURN OFF ONE SYSTEM, TURN OFF OUR FURNACE AND TURN ON OUR AIR CONDITIONERS.
UM, IT'S A MULTI-STEP PROCESS THAT TAKES US SEVERAL DAYS TO CONVERT.
AND THAT IS, THAT IS IF EVERYTHING GOES, GOES TO ORDER.
SO THERE IS ALWAYS A PERIOD OF TIME, ANY FALL, ANY SPRING WHERE THERE'S ACTUALLY NO HEATING OR COOLING THAT'S HAPPENING IN THE BUILDING AT THAT TIME.
WE'RE RELYING ON MOTHER NATURE AND OUTSIDE TEMPERATURES TO HELP US REGULATE THE BUILDINGS.
AND WE USE DAMPER AND OUTSIDE AIR.
AS MS. AZARI SAID, WHEN DO YOU START THIS PROCESS? I'M JUST, THERE'S NO, WHEN IT'S JUST TURNED OFF COMPLETELY.
DO WE START THIS IN SPRING BREAK WHEN THERE'S NO STUDENTS IN THE BUILDINGS AT ALL? WE BEGIN, WE BEGIN MONITORING THIS PROCESS IN MARCH.
WE BEGIN LOOKING AT THE WEATHER FORECAST SEVERAL WEEKS OUT.
THERE'S A PERIOD OF TIME IN WHICH WE LOOK, UM, TYPICALLY IN ALL THE MONTH OF APRIL AND IN EARLY MAY, WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST, UM, BASED ON THE, THE FORECASTING, WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST CONVERSION PERIOD? KNOWING THAT WE NEED TWO TO THREE WEEKS TO DO SO.
AND THEN WE IDENTIFY THAT TIME THIS YEAR, WE ACTUALLY IDENTIFIED A TIME AND WE MOVED IT UP EARLIER ONCE THE FORECAST CHANGE AND THE TEMPERATURES WERE GONNA BE WARMER THAN WHAT WAS FORECASTED.
SO JUST LAST FOLLOW UP, WHEN DID WE START THIS YEAR? UH, THIS YEAR WE, WE WERE SCHEDULED TO START ON APRIL THE 17TH.
THE, UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS THE SECOND, UM, WHICH WAS THE THURSDAY THAT, THAT STUDENTS WERE GONE FROM SPRING BREAK.
WE STARTED MUCH EARLIER IN SOME OF OUR SCHOOLS.
OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CONTRACTS? LEMME JUST CHECK TEAMS. OKAY.
UM, MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.
WE HAD SEVEN, CORRECT? WE WITH EIGHT.
[O. NEW BUSINESS - INFRASTRUCTURE (Dr. Grim and Mr. Tantleff) (8:30 - 8:45 p.m.)]
THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE CONSIDERATION OF THE ANNUAL BUDGET, APPROPRIATION, TRANSFER AND SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION.LICHTER, UH, SUPERINTENDENT DR. ROGERS, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
UH, WE ARE HERE THIS EVENING FOR THE BOARD'S APPROVAL OF A GENERAL FUND BUDGET, APPROPRIATION TRANSFER, AND A SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION.
A BUDGET APPROPRIATION TRANSFER OR BAT IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTION THAT IS REQUESTED EVERY YEAR.
AS YOU KNOW, WE PLAN TO REQUEST A FY 26 SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION LAST YEAR FOLLOWING BOARD APPROVAL OF ADDITIONAL COMPENSATION FOR STAFF.
BOARD APPROVAL IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE COUNTY APPROVAL PROCESS, AND I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO MR. TANIFF.
UH, THIS YEAR'S BAT TOTALS 26.5 MILLION AND THE SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION EQUALS 10.54 MILLION.
THE BCPS BUDGET CONSISTS OF 13 SEPARATE APPROPRIATION BY ACTIVITIES PRESCRIBED BY THE MARYLAND STATE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.
MSDE TRANSFER OF FUNDS BETWEEN ACTIVITIES REQUIRES APPROVAL FROM THE BOARD OF ED AND THE COUNTY COUNCIL.
THIS ANNUAL BUDGET APPROPRIATION TRANSFER WILL REALIGN FUNDS BY CATEGORY WITH PLANNED AND PROJECTED YEAR-END EXPENSES.
FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE DUE TO SAVINGS AND SALARY EXPENDITURES.
DELAY IN BRINGING BACK TO IN AND OF GRANT FUNDING THE PROPOSED NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT THE Y 2026 OPERATING PLAN.
CONTINUE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE NEW ORACLE ERP SYSTEM.
CONTINUE THE TEACHER SUBSTITUTE CONTRACT THROUGH 2026 YEAR END AND COVER SPECIAL EDUCATION EXPENSE SHORTFALLS.
BECAUSE BCPS COVER CARRIES NO CONTINGENCY BUDGET, THE ONLY WAY TO MANAGE UNANTICIPATED EXPENSES DURING THE YEAR IS VIA AMENDMENT TO THE BUDGET.
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STATED PREVIOUSLY, THIS IS AN ANNUAL ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTION.A SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION OF 10.54 MILLION IS REQUIRED TO FUND FINAL FY 2026 BARGAINING COMPENSATION AGREED TO FOLLOWING BUDGET ADOPTION AND THE CONCLUSION OF IMPASSE WITH TABCO AS PREVIOUSLY SHARED WITH THE BOARD, THE SOURCE OF THE SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDING IS AN ADDITIONAL 2.74 MILLION TO MATCH FINAL STATE REVENUE ABOVE THE ADOPTED BUDGET AND $7.81 MILLION OF FUND BALANCE.
THIS FUND BALANCE USAGE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FIGURES SHOWN DURING MULTIPLE PRESENTATIONS FOR THE FY 2027 BUDGET PROCESS.
WE'LL NOW TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE MS. HEAD.
UM, MY QUESTION IS REGARD REGARDING THE DECREASE IN INSTRUCTIONAL SALARIES OF 13,693,000, UM, FOR THE DEFERRAL OF TEACHER SUBSTITUTE IN-HOUSE MANAGEMENT.
UM, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? IS THAT BRINGING THOSE SUBSTITUTES, UM, BACK FROM KELLY AND IN-HOUSE AND MAKING THEM BCPS EMPLOYEES? IS THAT THIS SURE.
UH, OUR ORIGINAL INCREASE COST.
OUR ORIGINAL PLAN WAS, UH, MIDYEAR THIS YEAR TO SWITCH OVER FROM KELLY SERVICES AND BRING THEM, UH, IN-HOUSE.
BUT WE DECIDED, UM, IN THE INTEREST OF, UH, JUST HAVING GONE LIVE WITH THE ORACLE PAYROLL SYSTEM AND THE AMOUNT OF WORK TO BRING SEVERAL THOUSAND EMPLOYEES IN-HOUSE, IT MADE MORE SENSE TO PUSH THAT CONVERSION OVER TO THE BEGINNING OF FY 2027.
SO THOSE FUNDS WERE ORIGINALLY BUDGETED AS SALARIES BECAUSE WE DIRECTLY PAY SUBSTITUTES AND WE SIMPLY MOVED THAT MONEY OVER TO THE CONTRACTUAL LINE TO MATCH, UH, WHERE WE HAD THE BUDGET FOR KELLY SERVICES.
SO HALF OF THE YEAR WAS PLANNED AND CONTRACTUAL, HALF SUBS, AND WE SIMPLY NEEDED TO MOVE THE MONEY FROM SALARIES OVER TO CONTRACTUAL TO FINISH THE YEAR OUT WITH KELLY SERVICES.
OKAY, BUT WOULDN'T THAT BE OFFSET THEN BY AN IN INCRE, YOU KNOW, THE INCREASE IN DECREASE, WOULDN'T THOSE OFFSET WITH CONTRACTUAL? YES.
SO HOW DID WE END UP WITH A DECREASE IN SALARY? IT WENT DOWN IN SALARIES AND UP IN CONTRACTUAL.
SO THAT'S WHAT THE BAT IS REQUESTING FOR THAT, THAT MOVE? YES.
OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, LET ME JUST CHECK TEAMS. NOPE.
SO MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ANNUAL BUDGET APPROPRIATION TRANSFER? WE'RE DOING 'EM SEPARATELY.
SO THE FIRST ONE IS THE ANNUAL BUDGET APPROPRIATION TRANSFER AS PRESENTED.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND STALOWSKI.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE PLEASE.
UM, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? WHAT HAPPENS WHEN IT'S NOT APPROVED? UH, SURE.
SO THE FIRST, THIS IS THE FIRST STEP, UH, IN THE PROCESS, BOTH FOR THE BAT AND THE SUPPLEMENTAL.
UH, THEN IT HAS TO GO TO THE COUNTY COUNCIL.
UH, BY NOT ON THE BAT SIDE OF THE HOUSE, IT'S, UH, REQUIRED TO STAY ON BUDGET.
SO WITHOUT PASSING, UH, THE BAT, WHICH IS SIMPLY AN ADMINISTRATIVE RECOGNITION OF THE FUNDS WE HAVE SPENT AND ARE GOING TO SPEND, UM, WE WILL GO OVER BUDGET IN CERTAIN ACTIVITIES.
UH, WE WOULD LIKELY FAIL OUR ANNUAL AUDIT.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS.
UM, AND IT WILL ALSO CAUSE THE COUNTY TO, IN AGGREGATE, NOT BE ABLE TO BE IN BUDGET FOR THEIR, UH, ACT FOR AND YEAR END FOR AUDIT PURPOSES.
SO IT'S UN UNPRECEDENTED TERRITORY.
THERE'S, UH, LIKELY SEVERAL UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES WE WOULD, UH, NEED TO RESEARCH, BUT IT WOULD NEED TO PASS TONIGHT IN ORDER TO STAY ON TRACK FOR THE COUNTY'S, UM, SCHEDULE FOR BOTH THE BAT AND THE SUPPLEMENTAL.
MR. TIFF, IF YOU WENT BACK TO,
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TO YOUR GROUP AND YOU RECRU THESE NUMBERS, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT YOU COULD COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT SOLUTION THAT YOU COULD PRESENT TO US NEXT MEETING? UM, I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'D COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT SOLUTION.WE'RE SIMPLY, UH, MOVING MONEY FROM ACTIVITIES WHERE WE'RE GOING TO UNDERSPEND TO ACTIVITIES WHERE WE'RE PROJECTED TO OVERSPEND.
THE KELLY SERVICES WAS A VERY, UH, GOOD EXAMPLE THAT MS. HEN BROUGHT UP.
UM, I, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT DIFFERENT, THIS, THIS IS A SOLUTION THAT WORKS.
UH, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULD C WHAT DIFFERENT SOLUTION WE COULD COME UP WITH.
I MEAN, SOMEONE WOULD HAVE TO SAY WHAT, WHY THEY WOULD WANT A DIFFERENT SOLUTION AND WHAT THAT WOULD BE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.
THIS IS STRICTLY AN ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION.
WELL, THE, THE ACCOMPLISHMENT WOULD SEEM WOULD, YOU KNOW, PRESENT SOMETHING TO US THAT WE WOULD VOTE IN FAVOR OF.
BUT, BUT IF YOU WOULDN'T VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS, WHAT, WHAT WOULD CHANGE TO MAKE YOU VOTE IN FAVOR? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THERE IS IN THIS THAT PEOPLE VOTED AGAINST.
I, I JUST WAS REVIEWING SOME OF OUR BUDGET LINE, OUR, OUR BATS AND OUR SUPPLEMENTS, AND I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE DETAILS BECAUSE WHAT WE GET HERE AND THEN WHAT IS ACTUALIZED THROUGH THE, THE BUDGET LINE TRANSFER OVER THE YEAR DOESN'T, DOESN'T LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME AS FAR AS DEPARTMENT WISE, WHERE THE MONEY WAS COMING FROM AND WHERE IT'S GOING.
THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT DEFINITELY LINE UP, BUT SOME THINGS DON'T ALWAYS.
IF WE COULD GET A LINE BY LINE DETAILED MORE, UH, JUST A MORE DETAILED BUDGET LINE ITEMS AS FAR AS LIKE, TRANSFER HERE FOR THIS TRANSFER HERE FOR THIS INSTEAD OF JUST A SUMMARY WOULD BE MORE HELPFUL FOR ME TO MAKE A DECISION.
WELL, UH, THE TWO THINGS I WOULD SAY IS, UH, WE STARTED UP THE BUDGET LINE TRANSFER REPORT AGAIN, AS THE BOARD REQUESTED DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS.
UH, WE ALSO, UM, PROVIDED YOU WITH THE BUDGET LINE TRANSFER THROUGH QUARTER THREE, WHICH IS WHEN WE STOPPED DOING BUDGET LINE TRANSFER.
SO IF YOU LOOKED AT THE SUM OF ALL THOSE HUNDREDS OF LINE ITEMS ON THOSE REPORTS, THOSE WOULD SUPPORT THE BUDGET APPROPRIATION TRANSFER.
THE ONLY WAY TO REASONABLY DO IT, UH, IN AN UNDERSTANDABLE FORMAT IS TO SUMMARIZE IT LIKE THIS.
UM, AND, AND WE'RE GIVING YOU IN BROAD STROKES WHERE WE'RE UNDER BUDGET AND WHERE WE'RE OVER BUDGET AND WHAT WE PROPOSE TO THE BOARD IN ORDER TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM.
IF, IF I GIVE YOU A LIST OF THOUSANDS OF TRANSACTIONS, WILL THAT INFORM YOUR DECISIONS? WE HAVE PROVIDED THAT AT THE BOARD'S REQUEST, BUT I'M NOT SURE GOING THROUGH EACH OF THOSE LINE ITEMS. SUMMER MIGHT BE $50, A HUNDRED DOLLARS, A THOUSAND DOLLARS.
THERE'S SOME BIG THINGS, THERE'S SOME VERY SMALL THINGS.
BUT AS WE GO THROUGH THE YEAR AND ALL THE OFFICES, ALL THE SCHOOLS ARE DOING, UH, TRANSFERS, UH, THE SUM OF ALL THOSE CAN BE RESOLVED THROUGH THE BUDGET LINE TRANSFER PROCESS OR THE BAT PROCESS TONIGHT.
I WOULD ALSO JUST ADD THAT THE, UM, THE FORMAT IN WHICH WE PROVIDED HERE IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE PROVIDE TO THE COUNTY, UM, IN THEIR REPORTING FORMS. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT QUITE THE SAME FORM, BUT IT'S VERY, IT'S VERY SIMILAR IN TERMS OF A, A SUMMARY TO THEM AS WELL.
AND THIS IS THE SAME FORMAT THAT WE'VE PROVIDED EVERY YEAR FOR THIS VOTE.
I'M, I'M JUST ASKING FOR MAYBE SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT WHERE WE COULD SEE THE DEPARTMENT AND LINE NUMBERS, WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM AND WHERE THEY'RE GOING.
IT'S JUST EASIER TO MATCH THAT UP.
I'M NOT ASKING FOR, YOU KNOW, A DOLLAR HERE AND A DOLLAR THERE.
LIKE THE BIG BUDGET ITEMS IS A, LIKE WE'RE SAYING, YOU'RE, UM, CONDENSING ONE DEPARTMENT AND THIS IS WHERE THE COST SAVINGS IS COMING FROM.
THIS IS DIRECTLY WHAT IT'S GONNA GO TO.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE DOLLARS THAT YOU SAY OR WE SAY ARE GOING TO ED, UM, INSTRUCTIONAL EDUCATORS OR IT, IT, IT JUST IS GO, IT'S GOING WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE GOING AND IT'S NOT GOING TO ANOTHER DEPARTMENT AND FILTERING THROUGH A DIFFERENT WAY.
I, I'D JUST LIKE TO ALSO MENTION NOTHING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IMPACTS HOW WE'RE SPENDING OUR MONEY.
WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS ADJUSTMENTS TO THE BUDGET.
SO THE BUDGET LINES UP WITH OUR EXPENDITURES SO THAT WE DON'T GO OVER.
AND THE AGGREGATE BUDGET AGAIN, IS NOT CHANGING AT ALL.
WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT BY EACH OF THE MSD CATEGORIES.
WE CAN'T AT A VERY MICRO LEVEL, WE CAN'T GO OVER BUDGET IN ANY ACTIVITY TO STAY IN COMPLIANCE.
UH, WE'D ALSO BE IN VIOLATION OF THE COUNTY CODE IF WE'RE NOT IN, UM, BALANCE BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
SO WE'RE NOT CHANGING EXPENDITURES, WE'RE SIMPLY MOVING BUDGET.
THE BUDGET LINES AROUND AND WE'RE DESCRIBING
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IN THE DOCUMENT WHAT WE'RE MOVING FROM AND WHAT WE'RE MOVING TO IN, I FEEL LIKE A FAIRLY CLEAR FASHION.SO MR. MKI ON THE CHART THAT'S GOT THE BLUE LINES, DO YOU, ARE YOU LOOKING AT THAT CHART? SO THERE IS A FY 26 BCPS QUARTERLY BUDGET LINE TRANSFER REPORT FOR THIRD QUARTER LINK UNDER EXECUTIVE CONTENT.
BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT THAT, IT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.
SO I WANTED TO ASK, WHAT ON THAT DOCUMENT ARE YOU NOT, WOULD YOU WANT ADDED? THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
I DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WAS A, A LINK AND IT WASN'T JUST, HAS THIS BEEN YEAH, AGAIN, THAT'S A SIMILAR REPORT TO WHAT YOU SAW DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS.
WE JUST DON DON'T GET TO SEE IT ANYMORE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A BUDGET COMMITTEE TO GO AND GO THROUGH THE QUESTIONS.
I JUST DIDN'T, I JUST DIDN'T SEE IT TILL JUST NOW.
BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT NOW, IS THIS SHOWING YOU WHAT YOU WERE, WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ASK FOR? I JUST WISH I HAD SEEN IT BEFORE.
THAT'S ALL I WOULD'VE, IT'S BEEN ON, IT'S BEEN ON HERE.
I'M NOT SAYING IT WASN'T POSTED, IT'S JUST NOT POSTED THE WAY THAT THINGS USUALLY ARE, IT'S USUALLY AN ATTACHMENT, NOT A LINK.
SO I WASN'T, I JUST WASN'T IMMEDIATELY, IT, IT'S A LINKED ATTACHMENT, BUT IT'S NOT AN ACTUAL LIKE FILE OR PRESENTATION LIKE THE OTHER TWO ARE, IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
LIKE THE, THOSE, THE FIRST THAT'S FINE.
I JUST DIDN'T GO DOWN THAT FAR BECAUSE I SAW THOSE TWO AND FIGURED THOSE WERE THE TWO THINGS WE NEEDED TO LOOK AT.
I THINK SOMEBODY ELSE HAD THEIR HAND UP.
IT WAS ME, BUT I WAS GONNA BRING THE SAME THING I OKAY.
BECAUSE IT IS, IT'S UNDER EXECUTIVE CONTENT AND THEY'RE TWO SEPARATE THINGS.
SO I THINK THAT WAS THE ISSUE.
UM, ALSO, UH, MS. HEN, MS. DOKI, IF YOU LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, THE SUMMARY INCREASES BY CATEGORY ON THE BAT, ALTHOUGH THERE'S A SUM OF ALL THESE SMALL TRANSACTIONS THAT REQUIRE IT, WE'RE ABLE TO GRAB A COUPLE OF BIG THINGS AND DESCRIBE WHAT WE'RE REDUCING AND WHAT WE'RE INCREASING.
SO IF WE, UH, IF YOU JUST SIMPLY IGNORE IT, ALL THE TRANSACTIONS IN THE BUDGET LINE TRANSFER REPORT, THESE HANDFUL OF THINGS CAUSE US TO HAVE TO DO THE BAT.
MS. LICHTER, DID WE ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? RIGHT? WELL, I WAS GONNA, OOPS.
I WAS GONNA ASK FOR EXPLANATION ON THAT CHART BECAUSE I WASN'T SURE I WAS UNDERSTANDING IT BASED ON MS. DESI'S QUESTION, BUT I, I THINK I DO IT.
IT'S SHOWING WHERE IT WAS AND WHERE IT WAS MOVED, WHERE IT WOULD BE MOVED TO IF WE APPROVE IT.
I'M, AND I'M GOING BACK TO YOUR ORIGINAL QUESTION ABOUT IMPLICATIONS.
DID WE ANSWER? OH, IMPLICATIONS.
DID WE ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH.
WHAT I GOT FROM THAT IS, IT'S, IT'S NOT GOOD
OKAY, MR. YOUNG, MR. TIFF, UM, WHEN WE LOOK AT LIKE THE, THE BAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THAT INCREASE SECTION TO DECREASE SECTION, FOR EXAMPLE, OTHER INSTRUCTIONAL COSTS IS AN INCREASE OF 19 MILLION.
I'M ASSUMING IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS SAYING, WELL, WE'RE NOT GONNA SPEND THIS MONEY.
UM, THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS, AGAIN, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE KELLY EXAMPLE, WHICH IS BY FAR THE BIGGEST ITEM ON HERE.
WE WILL PAY KELLY SERVICES FOR SERVICES RENDERED, AND WE WILL SPEND ROUGHLY WHAT WE'RE PROJECTING, CERTAINLY NOT TO THE PENNY.
UM, AND THE BAT GIVES US A CUSHION TO, BECAUSE THERE IS UNCERTAINTY IN SPENDING, AND IT'S A BIG BUDGET.
WE MAKE SURE THE BAT LEAVES US A CUSHION IN EVERY ACTIVITY.
BUT WE WILL PAY KELLY SERVICES, WE'RE LEGALLY OBLIGATED TO PAY FOR THOSE SERVICES.
UH, WE WILL PAY FOR THE ERP PROJECT AS THE WORK PROGRESSES.
SO WE, WE ARE LEGALLY OBLIGATED TO PERFORM THIS SPENDING.
AND AGAIN, THE BUDGET, THE BUDGET APPROPRIATION, TRANSFER LINES, THE BUDGET UP WITH, UH, THE EXPENDITURES AS WE PROJECT THEM.
THIS IS AGAIN THE SAME AS WE DO EVERY YEAR.
AND THE COUNTY GOES THROUGH THE EXACT SAME PROCESS FOR THEIR BUDGET.
I, I JUST WANT TO ADD, I THANK YOU FOR THAT, MR. TANIFF.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD MR. YOUNG, THAT THE, UM, THAT THE SPEND IS ALL WITHIN THE SPEND AUTHORITY THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE BOARD.
SO NONE OF NONE OF THESE EXPENDITURES SPENDING ARE OUTSIDE THE AUTHORITY THAT'S ALREADY BEEN GRANTED BY THE BOARD TO SPEND ON ANY PARTICULAR CONTRACT.
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THANK YOU, MR. MCMILLION.MR. TANIFF, IF YOU TOOK THIS THIRD QUARTER REPORT, THIS QUARTERLY BUDGET LINE TRANSFER REPORT AND UPDATED IT TO THE, YOU KNOW, APRIL 21ST OR WHATEVER, AND THEN BROUGHT THAT BACK TO US, WOULD THAT BE, GIVE US MORE INFORMATION IN ORDER TO MAKE OUR DECISION MORE ACCURATE INFORMATION THAT, WELL, THE BUDGET LINE TRANSFER REPORT IN FRONT OF YOU, BLTS, RIGHT? YEAH.
THE BUDGET LINE TRA, THE BLT REPORT, UM, GOES THROUGH THE FINAL BUDGET LINE TRANSFERS THAT OCCURRED THIS YEAR.
WE, UH, CUT THEM OFF AT THE END OF FEBRUARY NORMALLY.
UM, SO THE, SOME OF THE TWO REPORTS, UH, COUNT ALL THE TRANSACTIONS.
BUT I, I THINK I MENTIONED IT, UH, BEFORE, AND, UH, MS. WYNN, TELL ME IF I'M WRONG.
I THINK YOU WERE TRYING TO SAY THIS.
IF YOU THINK OF ALL THE SMALL TRANSACTIONS WE MAKE THROUGH THE YEAR, THEY SORT OF OFFSET.
AND IF YOU JUST FOCUS ON THESE LARGE TRANSACTIONS, THESE CAUSE US TO HAVE TO DO THE BAT.
THESE HANDFUL OF TRANSACTIONS THAT WE FULLY DESCRIBE ON HERE, THESE ARE SINGLE BUDGETS IN SINGLE PLACES, UM, THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
KELLY SERVICES, THE ERP PROJECT, SPECIAL ED, ET CETERA.
SO WE, WE DO BOIL IT DOWN INTO, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK A HANDFUL OF REASONABLE EXPENSES AND A REASONABLE, UM, NUMBER OF SOURCES OF REVENUE.
SO MR. MCMILLION, THERE WOULDN'T BE AN, THERE WOULDN'T BE BE BUDGET LINE TRANSFER ITEMS ON ANY ADDITIONAL REPORT SINCE THESE ARE INCLUSIVE, UH, UP THROUGH THIS FISCAL YEAR.
SO I'D LIKE TO ASK IF THERE'S ANYONE WHO VOTED NO.
WILLING TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER.
I CANNOT MAKE IT 'CAUSE I VOTED.
SO, AFTER HEARING THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND CLARITY, IS THERE ANYBODY WHO VOTED NO.
WHO WAS WILLING TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER QUESTION? YES, MR. MANAS, I'M SORRY, I'M PROBABLY OUT OF TIME, BUT JUST ANOTHER QUESTION.
SO THE 13.7 MILLION THAT'S COMING FROM KELLY SERVICES IN THE BLT, IT'S, IT'S, OH, TELL ME.
UM, IT'S GOING FROM SCHOOL-BASED SALARIES TO THE DEPARTMENT OF RECRUITMENT AND STAFFING.
THEN WHERE DOES IT GO TO MISCELLANEOUS CONTRACTED SERVICES? WE, WE HAVE THE SALARIES, UH, FOR THE SUBSTITUTES OR BUDGETED UNDER SCHOOLS.
RIGHT? SO IF WE HAD BROUGHT THE SUBS IN HOUSE, WE WOULD'VE PAID THEM.
UH, THEY'RE CONTRACTUAL EMPLOYEES, BUT WE WOULD'VE PAID THEM OUT OF OUR PAYROLL SYSTEM, ALONG WITH ALL TEACHER SALARIES IN OUR, OUR BIG BUCKET OF SCHOOL SALARIES.
UH, NOW WE MOVE IT OVER TO CONTRACTUAL, UM, HUMAN RESOURCES, WORKING WITH THE BUDGET OFFICE APPROVES ALL OF THOSE INVOICES.
SO THEY SEND A DETAILED INVOICE IN EVERY WEEK.
UM, UH, HR GOES THROUGH IT, AND THEN BUDGET GOES THROUGH IT.
WE CODE THOSE INVOICES, AND THEN WE PAY KELLY SERVICES.
SO THAT'S IN CONTRACTUAL SERVICES WHERE THE SUBSTITUTE SALARIES ARE IN, YOU KNOW, WITH TEACHER SALARIES AND ALL THE OTHER SCHOOL SALARIES.
BUT THIS SAYS YOU'RE MAKING US, YOU, YOU'RE IN-HOUSE DEFERMENT OF MANAGEMENT DEFERRED BY KELLY SERVICES OF 13.7 MILLION.
SO IT'S NOT, YOU'RE SAYING IT'S GOING BACK TO KELLY SERVICES FOR CONTRACTING SUBSTITUTE TEACHERS.
IT, IT WAS, WE, WE HAD IT BUDGETED TO PAY FOR SUBS IN-HOUSE.
WE'RE NOT DOING THAT THIS YEAR.
SO NOW WE JUST MOVE, NEED TO MOVE THAT MONEY INTO THE CONTRACTUAL BUCKET WHERE WE HAVE KELLY SERVICES BUDGETED SINCE THEY'LL BE WORKING FOR AN EXTRA HALF YEAR.
SINCE THE, SINCE THE SUBSTITUTES ARE PAID THROUGH KELLY SERVICES AND NOT THROUGH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
WE C WE CAN'T PAY KELLY SERVICES IN THE CURRENT ACCOUNT THAT THEY'RE IN.
SO, YEAH, WE JUST NEED TO MOVE, WE JUST NEED TO MOVE THE MONEY FROM ONE ACCOUNT TO ANOTHER AS DESIGNATED BY MSD ACCOUNTING.
WE HAVE A, SO WE HAVE IT GOING OVER, I, I GUESS, TO OTHER INSTRUCTIONAL COSTS FOR UNDER THAT LIKE 19 MILLION ACCORDING TO THE BAT.
BUT WE DON'T KNOW EXACT, LIKE, I, I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.
LIKE, IT'S ONE LINE ITEM, IT'S ONE BUDGET TO PAY KELLY SERVICES.
WHEN IF I, IF I COULD, UH, INTERRUPT AND JUST TRY IT A A DIFFERENT WAY.
SO, UM, AT THE END OF THE DAY, AND I'M JUST GIVING A ROUND NUMBER.
LET'S SAY WE HAD 20 MILLION PLANNED.
UM, THE WAY THAT WE HAD BUDGETED FOR THIS SCHOOL WAS 10 MILLION WAS GOING TO BE PAYING DIRECTLY TO KELLY SERVICES.
THEY WERE GONNA PAY THE SUBS FOR US.
AND THEN IN JANUARY THE SUBS WERE GONNA COME HERE AND WE WERE GOING TO THROUGH
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PAYROLL PAY THEM, BECAUSE ALL OF THE SUBS ARE STAYING WITH KELLY SERVICES ALL YEAR LONG.THIS REQUEST IS TO, IF IT WAS TWO $10 MILLION POTS TO TAKE THAT SECOND 10 MILLION THAT WE HAD FOR THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AND PUT IT WITH KELLY SERVICES, THERE'S NOT A DOLLAR CHANGING.
IT'S STILL GOING TO SUBSTITUTES.
THE DIFFERENCE IS WHO PAYS THEM.
AND WHAT THE, UH, TEAM IS COMMUNICATING IS, UH, THIS IS A ANNUAL REQUIREMENT THAT ALL OF OUR NUMBERS ARE ALIGNED.
WE IMPACT THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT'S BUDGET, AS YOU KNOW.
AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, STEP ONE OF IT, THE BLT REPORT, UM, THAT IS IN BLUE NOW, UH, THOSE, THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL INFORMATION BECAUSE THAT HAS BEEN CUT OFF FOR THE WHOLE ENTIRE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
UM, AND THOSE NUMBERS LINE UP, UH, AND I THINK MR. UH, TANIFF WAS TRYING TO SAY MORE ELOQUENTLY THAN ME THAT THE BAT IS NECESSARY BECAUSE THERE ARE A FEW SPECIFIC LINE ITEMS THAT CARRY A VERY BIG DOLLAR AMOUNT.
AND I SEE YOU SHAKING YOUR HEAD.
SO OTHER CONSTRUCTION INSTRUCTIONAL COSTS INCLUDE SUBSTITUTES AS A TEACH, LIKE THAT'S NOT AN, A SUBSTITUTE IS NOT AN INSTRUCTIONAL, IT, IT'S BECAUSE IT'S A CONTRACT.
IT FALLS INTO OTHER CO OTHER INSTRUCTIONAL.
THAT'S WHERE THE CONTRACTS ARE.
IT WOULD NOT BE MANDATE, IT'S A MSD MANDATE.
SO A SUBSTITUTE WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AN INSTRUCTIONAL SALARY? NO, BECAUSE WE DON'T PAY THEM DIRECTLY.
IF WE, THEY'RE IN-HOUSE, THEY WOULD BE IF WE WERE PAYING THEM, BUT WE ARE PAYING KELLY SERVICES.
WE'RE NOT PAYING THE SUBS, KELLY SERVICES, PAYING THE SUBS.
THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT INSTRUC IN INSTRUCTIONAL SALARIES.
SO WE'RE NO LONGER IN HOUSING SUBS.
THIS HAS BEEN FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
WE'VE BEEN ON IN THE KELLY SERVICES CONTRACT.
AND WE'LL BE IT, IT'S SIMPLY WHERE MSD REQUIRES INSTRUCTIONAL SALARIES ARE DIRECTLY PAID EMPLOYEES IN THE SCHOOLHOUSE.
WE DON'T PAY THE, UM, CONTRACT TO EMPLOYEES.
THE CONTRACT COVERS THEIR EXPENSES AND THEY PAY THE SUBS.
WE HAVE NOT TERMINATED OUR CONTRACT WITH KELLY SERVICES IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
THEY'RE CONTINUING THROUGH THE END OF THIS YEAR AND NEXT FISCAL YEAR, HR WILL BE BRINGING THEM BACK IN HOUSE.
SO IN ADDITION TO THE 13, UM, 0.6 MILLION, ALMOST 13.7 MILLION DECREASE FOR INSTRUCTIONAL SALARIES THAT WE KNOW ARE RELATED TO KELLY, WE'VE, WE'VE COVERED THAT.
UM, THE REMAINING PORTION, THE 7.3 MILLION IN SALARY SAVINGS, IS THAT MAPPED SOMEWHERE ON OUR BAD EXHIBIT THAT WE CAN TELL WHERE THAT, UM, IS GOING IN TERMS OF TRANSFER? BECAUSE I, I CAN'T CORRESPOND MAP THAT TO ITS CORRESPONDING INCREASE AND MAYBE IT'S ACROSS CATEGORIES AS EASILY AS YOU CAN SEE.
LIKE YOU SAID, MR. TANIFF, THAT'S THE 21.
YOU, IT'S EASY TO SEE KELLY CONTRACTUAL TO, UM, IN-HOUSE AND TO SEE THAT MAP.
BUT THE 7.3 IN SALARY SAVINGS, WHERE MY HESITATION IS IN, IN IMPROVING THIS, IS BEING ABLE TO SEE WHERE THAT SALARY SAVINGS WAS SPENT BY LOOKING AT THIS.
I CAN'T TELL THE SUM OF, THINK OF IT THIS WAY.
IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS DOCUMENT WITH A LITTLE MORE DETAILED, THE BLT, IS IT? YEAH.
WHERE IT, IT'S GOT ALL THE ACTIVITIES LISTED.
THE SUM OF THE DECREASES EQUAL THE SUM OF THE INCREASES.
SO WE'RE USING THESE SOURCES JUST, IT'S NOT GOING DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR FROM POINT A TO POINT B.
KELLY SERVICES DOES FOR THE MOST PART.
BUT MOSTLY WHAT WE ARE DOING IS WE NEED TO COVER A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SHORTFALLS IN DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES, WHICH IS THE INCREASES BY CATEGORY ACTIVITY ONE, FIVE AND SIX NEED TO, THE BUDGET NEEDS TO INCREASE.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT ON THE OTHER SHEET.
YOU CAN SEE WHERE THEY'RE GOING UP.
SO WE NEEDED TO GET A BUCKET OF MONEY.
WE NEEDED TO IDENTIFY WHERE WE HAD OVERAGES AND A CUSHION THAT WE COULD MOVE OVER TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE LEDGER WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE OVER BUDGET.
SO WE DON'T MOVE IT EXACTLY FROM POINT A TO POINT B.
WE GET THOSE DOLLARS TOGETHER, WE GET ENOUGH, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE'RE MOVING THEM TO.
AND, AND THAT'S WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO SEE IS WHERE WE ARE OVER BUDGET TO, IS IT ERP? AND I'M GONNA PICK ON ERP FOR A MINUTE BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S AN AREA OF CONCERN WHEN WE ARE BEING ASKED TO INCREASE SPEND AUTHORITY.
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WELL WITHIN IT, SO I'M NOT SUGGESTING WE'RE NOT, BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT OVERSPENDING, I, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT IN THIS.BECAUSE IF WE'RE COVERING THAT WITH SALARY SAVINGS AND WE'RE NOT HIRING TEACHERS, BUT YET WE'RE OVERSPENDING IN SOME AREAS, I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT BEFORE I APPROVE THE TRANSFER.
I WANNA SEE IF I'M UNDERSTANDING, 'CAUSE I THOUGHT I DID, AND NOW I'M NOT SURE.
SO I'M LOOKING AT LIKE THE KELLY SERVICES IS TOO, EVEN FOR US TO KIND OF LOOK AT.
BUT WHEN I LOOK AT EARLY CHILDHOOD PROGRAMS ON THE, THE CHART WITH THE BLUE, IT SAYS THAT WE DECREASED 3000 THAT WE BUDGETED FOR CLASSROOM SUPPLIES.
SO THE EARLY CHILDHOOD OFFICE THOUGHT THEY NEEDED IT.
THEY DIDN'T SPEND 3000 FOR CLASSROOM SUPPLIES, BUT THEY DO NEED MORE MONEY FOR MILEAGE FOR THEIR EARLY CHILDHOOD SPECIALIST.
SO THAT, BUT THEY NEEDED 3,200.
SO YOU TOOK 3000 FROM THEIR CLASSROOM SUPPLIES, PLUS 200 THAT PRINT SHOP DIDN'T USE AND YOU GAVE IT TO EARLY SPECIALIST MILEAGE.
SO THAT, SO I'M SAYING THAT WHERE IT LEFT WAS THAT THEY DIDN'T USE CLASSROOM SUPPLIES, BUT WHAT THEY NEEDED WAS MORE MILEAGE.
AND SO YOU MADE THE, THE SWAP.
IS THAT CORRECT? AM I READING THAT RIGHT? YEAH.
SO THE DECREASES AND INCREASES ARE ON HERE.
SO THERE ARE IN THE, IN THE, THE BUDGET IN THE BLT THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT UHHUH, THAT IS, THAT'S, THAT'S THOSE SMALL, SOMETIMES IT'S WITHIN THE OFFICE, SOMETIMES IT'S WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT.
YOU TOOK 200 MORE FROM ANOTHER OFFICE.
AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE TRANSFERRING LINE BY LINE BY LINE.
WHAT THE, WHAT THE BAT IS INTENDED TO DO IS TO, IS TO REBALANCE IN THOSE BIG BUCKETS AS MR. TANIFF SAID, UM, TO, TO MAKE SOME ALIGNMENT.
SO MS. HAN, YOU BROUGHT UP ERP.
ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE EXPENSES IN FY 26, FOR EXAMPLE, IN ERP, WAS, UM, THERE WAS MONEY SET ASIDE LAST YEAR FOR EER ERP IN FISCAL YEAR 2025.
UM, DURING THE COURSE OF TIME, UH, A ST, UH, WAS BOUGHT BY I-B-M-I-B-M, UM, UH, THE WAY OUR INVOICING WORKED, UH, THOSE INVOS, WE HAD TO CLOSE OUT 2025.
THE MONEY THAT WAS SET ASIDE FOR THAT WENT BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND THAT STARTED US BEHIND IN 2026.
SO WE ARE PAYING INVOICES ALRE THAT WE HAD FROM BASIC, ESSENTIALLY FROM THE END OF 2025 BECAUSE OF THE NAME CHANGE IN 2026.
SO THAT, THAT ACCOUNTS FOR A FEW MILLION DOLLARS OF, OF ERP, FOR EXAMPLE.
UM, SO SOMETIMES IT'S, IT'S, AS MR. TIFF SAID, IT'S, IT'S JUST ALIGNING THE, THE BOOKS.
UM, AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S NOT ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL SPEND AUTHORITY.
WE'RE WITHIN THE AUTHORITY WE REQUESTED FOR THE BOARD.
IT'S JUST TO, UM, TO COUNTER FOR SOME OF THOSE KINDS OF ISSUES.
MR. MCMILLIAN, I MOVE THAT WE VOTE AGAIN.
IS THERE A SECOND? SAY THAT AGAIN.
NOW, PROCEDURALLY, CAN SOMEBODY WHO VOTED YES.
SECOND IT OR IT STILL HAS TO BE SECOND ANYWAY.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON MR. MR. YOUNG? I WOULD, UH, URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE YES ON THIS.
THE DATA IS HERE AND BASED UPON WHAT MR. TANIFF SAID, THE MONEY'S GOING TO BE SPENT.
WE JUST WANT TO ENSURE THAT OUR BOOKS LINE UP PROPERLY.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE PLEASE.
TELL ME I ADDED WRONG AND IT'S NOT JUST SIX.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AN THERE'S TWO OF THEM, RIGHT? I SECOND MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ANNUAL SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET APPROPRIATION AS PRESENTED? SO, MOVE YOUNG.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, TOBE.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET APPROPRIATION? MS. DOKI? I JUST HAVE A QUESTION AS TO, AND THIS IS, I'M SURE THIS IS A DUMB QUESTION, BUT WHY DO WE NEED THE SUPPLEMENTAL AND THE BAT? WHY CAN'T THE, WHY AREN'T THEY INCORPORATED TOGETHER? THE SUPPLEMENT WILL ACTUALLY INCREASE THE BUDGET, BUT YEAH, I MEAN, I, I KNOW, BUT THAT JUST MO THAT'S WHY THOUGH, THE
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SUPPLEMENT INCREASES THE SPENDING AUTHORITY THAT THE BOARD AND THE COUNCIL GIVE US.SO WE'RE GONNA SPEND $10.5 MILLION MORE THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF THE SALARY INCREASES THAT WERE, UH, INCREASED, THAT WERE APPROVED AFTER IMPASSE.
AND THEY COULDN'T BE BUDGETED INTO, I UNDERSTAND IT'S INCREASING THIS, BUT WE, IT, IT WAS AFTER BUDGET ADOPTION, AND IT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT EXPENSE.
UM, SO, UH, IT, YES, SO WE FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO INCREASE THE BUDGET TO COVER, UH, SOME OF IT WE COVERED BY MOVING, UM, EXPENDITURES AROUND, UM, DURING THE, UH, PROCESS POST-ADOPTION.
BUT WE FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO INCREASE THE BUDGET BY THE 10 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.
AND AS A REMINDER, ANY OF THE MONEY DIDN'T BE, THAT MIGHT NOT GET SPENT FALLS INTO FUND BALANCE AT YEAR END.
SO WE'RE NOT GONNA SPEND MORE MONEY BECAUSE OF THIS.
WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE SPENDING WHAT WE'VE ALREADY AGREED TO, WHAT ARE IN THE SALARY SCALES, WHAT WE'RE PAYING OUR EMPLOYEES THROUGH YEAR END.
IS THERE ANY ANTICIPATED SALARY THAT YOU WON'T, 'CAUSE WE HAD 7 MILLION INSTRUCTIONAL SALARY THAT WE DIDN'T END UP USING THAT WE WERE ABLE TO TRANSFER.
IS THERE ANY, ARE WE EXPECTING TO HAVE ANY KIND OF ADDITIONAL SALARY THAT WE DON'T NEED FOR, UM, W WE, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED, YOU KNOW, A NUMBER OF TIMES WE, UM, FINISH YEAR END UNDER BUDGET BECAUSE WE HAVE TO, BUT IT'S ONLY TWO OR 3% OF OUR TOTAL BUDGET, A VERY SMALL AMOUNT.
ANYTHING WE UNDERSPEND FALLS INTO FUND BALANCE, AND THEN THE BOARD IS ABLE TO REUSE IT IN OUR EARS, UM, TO FUND ITEMS IN THE BUDGET.
SO WE'RE NOT FUNDING ANY VACANT POSITIONS WITH, THIS IS WHAT I'M ASKING RIGHT NOW.
LIKE, WE'RE, WE'RE SUPPORTING WHAT WE'RE PROJECTING OUR YEAR END EXPENDITURES AND SALARIES TO BE IN REAL TIME.
UH, I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU MEAN IN, IN REAL TIME ARE, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE SET THE BAT A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.
SO BASED ON WHERE WE THOUGHT OUR EXPENDITURES WOULD FALL, WE DID TWO SEPARATE THINGS.
AND, UM, WE ARE INCREASING THE BUDGET TO SUPPORT THE ADDITIONAL EXPENSE THAT WAS AGREED TO FOR SALARIES AFTER THE BUDGET WAS LOCKED AND ADOPTED SEPARATELY, WE'RE DOING THE BAT TO LINE EVERYTHING UP.
WE TRIED, WE DIDN'T WANNA MERGE THE TWO THINGS BECAUSE THEN IT WOULD BE MORE CONFUSING.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THEM CLEAN AND SEPARATE.
AND AGAIN, ANYTHING WE DON'T SPEND, WE'LL JUST GO BACK INTO FUND BALANCE.
WE'RE NOT GONNA SPEND ANY MORE MONEY BECAUSE OF THIS.
NO, I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET DOWN TO IS, SO THE INSTRUCTIONAL SALARY INCREASE THAT YOU, WE NEED THIS SUPPLEMENT IS FIVE, ABOUT $5.26 MILLION.
IS THAT ACCORDING TO SALARIES THAT WERE FUNDED THAT MAYBE WE DIDN'T ALREADY? BECAUSE LIKE WE HAD THE COME BACK, WE HAD A, WE HAD VACANCIES.
WE OVER BUDGETED FOR SALARIES.
IS THIS TAKING THAT NUMBER INTO ACCOUNT OR THE CURRENT NUMBER OF INSTRUCTIONAL SALARIES INTO ACCOUNT? UM, WE'RE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT, UM, WHAT WE PROJECT OUR EXPENDITURES WILL BE FOR THE YEAR IN BOTH OF THESE DOCUMENTS.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO COME IN, YOU KNOW, $1 UNDER BUDGET.
WE'RE TRYING TO COMFORTABLY COME IN UNDER BUDGET.
WE WERE ABLE TO COVER, UM, ALMOST HALF OF THE PROJECTED EXPENSES THAT, UH, WERE AGREED TO THROUGH, UM, UH, OTHER REDUCTIONS THAT WERE, UH, IMPLEMENTED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.
SO, UH, WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS A CONSERVATIVE, UH, REASONABLE PROPOSAL, WHAT SOMEBODY ELSE SAID, MR. YOUNG.
SO, UM, MR. TANIFF, I THINK THE QUESTION THAT MS. DOMINOS IS TRYING TO ASK IS THAT THE $5 MILLION THAT WE ARE SUPPLEMENTING INSTRUCTIONAL SALARIES WITH IS BASED UPON PAYING OUR CURRENT EMPLOYEES, THE CURRENT NUMBER OF, UM, TEACHERS OR THOSE WHO FALL IN THAT CATEGORY.
IT'S BASED ON THAT CURRENT NUMBER THAT WE HAVE, NOT BASED UPON WHAT THE NUMBER OF TEACHERS WE EXPECTED TO HAVE.
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OKAY.ANY, UM, FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE SUPPLEMENTAL DOCUMENT, UM, MS. ESQUE, I SAW YOU WROTE A COMMENT IN THE CHAT.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO DISCUSS YOUR COMMENT? OKAY.
UM, WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR MS. ESQUE TO COME BACK, WHEN ARE THESE, WERE THESE DUE TO COUNTY GOVERNMENT? I'M SORRY.
MS. LESKI, ONE SECOND, PLEASE.
UH, THE COUNCIL VOTES ON JUNE 1ST.
UH, THE COUNCIL HAS THEIR WORK SESSION THE WEEK BEFORE THAT.
TOMORROW IS THE, UH, COUNTY EXECUTIVES WORK SESSION.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S MORE STEPS IN THE PROCESS IN THE COUNTY, BUT TOMORROW, EVERYONE WHO WILL BE GOING TO THE JUNE 1ST COUNCIL MEETING WILL ESSENTIALLY GET VETTED BY THE CE STAFF TOMORROW, GET FEEDBACK, ANSWER QUESTIONS, ET CETERA.
AND THEN ONCE WE GET THROUGH THERE, UM, IT'LL GO TO THE COUNCIL WORK SESSION, WHICH IS, AS I MENTIONED, THE LAST WEEK IN MAY.
SO THESE DOCUMENTS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE APPROVED AND GO TOMORROW? UH, YES.
I MEAN, IF IT WAS A FEW DAYS LATER THAN THAT, IT MIGHT, UH, WE'D HAVE TO CHECK WITH THEM ON THEIR, UH, PROCESS.
SO THEY HAVE THE DRAFT DOCUMENTS, WHICH THEY KNOW ARE NOT APPROVED.
SO, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE ABSOLUTE DROP DEAD WOULD BE.
IT WOULD CERTAINLY BE SOMETIME IN ADVANCE OF WHEN ALL THE, THE COUNCIL RECEIVE ALL OF THEIR DOCUMENTS FOR THAT BOARD, FOR THAT COUNCIL MEETING.
MS. LESKI, DO YOU WANNA TALK TO WHAT YOU WROTE IN THE CHAT? YES, THANK YOU.
UM, I ALSO DIDN'T SEE THE DOCUMENT THAT MS. DOKI WAS LOOKING FOR, SO THAT WAS JUST THE ONLY THOUGHT WAS GIVEN THAT SOME OTHER BOARD MEMBERS HAVE SOME REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION.
UM, AND IF IT'S APPROPRIATE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD CERTAINLY, UH, YOU KNOW, PLAN FOR A REVOTE AT OUR NEXT MEETING.
SO I WAS TRYING TO FIND OUT THE TIMELINESS OF THE APPROVAL.
IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE COULD VOTE BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING? COULD WE HAVE A SPECIAL 50? I DON'T, WE CAN.
I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A OPEN, HAS TO BE DONE OPEN MEETINGS.
BUT I'M, I'M STILL CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WE'RE ASKING.
NO, I'M, I'M, I WOULD WANT TO KNOW WHAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION BOARD MEMBERS WOULD LIKE.
IS IT TIME OR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION? MS. HEN? I, I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION TO MS. DO'S QUESTION ON SALARY SAVINGS.
UM, IT, IT WOULD BE CLEAR TO ME, AND I KNOW WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, MR. TIFF, ABOUT HOW YOU KEPT THE, THE BAD AND THE SUPPLEMENTAL SEPARATE, BUT BECAUSE THERE WERE SALARY SAVINGS OF 7.3, IT'S UNCLEAR WHY WE'RE STILL ASKING FOR A SUPPLEMENTAL OF 5.2 WHEN WE HAD SAVINGS OF 7.3 IN INSTRUCTIONAL SALARIES.
WELL, THEN THE BAT WOULD BE SHORT THAT 7.3 AND THE SUPPLEMENTAL WOULD GO INTO THE SAME BUCKET.
SO, I MEAN, WE USE, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IN THE EXAM? IN THE EXAMPLE, UM, YOU WERE JUST ASKING ABOUT INSTRUCTIONAL SALARIES.
RIGHT? UM, SO 13.7 21 MILLION IN, I'M, I'M ON THE BAT.
SO I'M SAYING I'M, I THINK I'M, SO THE INSTRUCTIONAL SALARIES HAD 7.3 MILLION IN SALARY SAVINGS TO CAME OUT OF INSTRUCTIONAL SALARIES TO HELP SUPPORT OTHER INSTRUCTIONAL COSTS.
IF WE DON'T DO THAT, SO WE DON'T TAKE IT OUT, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT.
WE DON'T, WE DON'T REDUCE INSTRUCTIONAL SALARIES BY THE 7.3 MILLION.
WE WOULD NEED TO FIND 7.3 MILLION MORE TO SUPPORT ALL THE INCREASES ON THE TOP.
SO YOU COULD NOT PUT THE MONEY IN INSTRUCTIONAL SALARIES IN THE SUPPLEMENT.
YOU COULD TAKE 7.3 MILLION OF THE SUPPLEMENT AND PUT IT IN OTHER INSTRUCTIONAL COSTS.
BUT IN THE END, EVERY BUDGET IN EVERY ACTIVITY IS THE SAME.
YOU'RE JUST MOVING THINGS AROUND.
BUT IN THE END, WE'RE GONNA GO UP BY THIS MUCH IN EACH OF THE ACTIVITIES.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE PUT THIS TOGETHER, UM, I'M JUST MAKING THIS UP, INSTRUCTIONAL SALARIES.
MAYBE WE COULD HAVE, INSTEAD OF DOING 21, WE COULD HAVE DONE 20 AND WE COULD HAVE DONE 3.2 OF MID-LEVEL.
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ACTIVITY.WE'RE TRYING TO LEAVE, UH, A COMFORTABLE CUSHION BY YEAR END BECAUSE OUR EXPENSES, YOU KNOW, THEY VARY.
THERE'S SEVERAL MONTHS LEFT IN THE YEAR, AND THEN WE'RE MOVING ENOUGH MONEY TO COVER WHERE WE BELIEVE THERE ARE SHORTFALLS.
WE CAN NOT TAKE, WE CAN INSTRUCTIONAL SALARIES.
WE COULD JUST MOVE THE 14 MILLION, BUT THEN 7 MILLION WOULD JUST MOVE FROM THE SUPPLEMENT INSTEAD OF GOING INTO SALARIES.
IT WOULD GO INTO ACTIVITY FIVE.
I MEAN, IN THE END, THE SAME, IT, IT, AND IT'S NOT, AGAIN, NONE OF THIS IS IMPACTING HOW WE'RE GONNA SPEND OR WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SPEND.
IT'S SIMPLY MAKING SURE THE ACTIVITY, THE ACTIVITY, BUDGETS, THEY'RE SHORT, HAVE ENOUGH MONEY.
BUT I, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD CHANGE ANYTHING.
IT'S THE MOVEMENT ACROSS CATEGORIES THAT IS CONFUSING.
BECAUSE WHAT, WHAT WOULD, WHAT MAKES SENSE WHEN I'M THINKING ABOUT THIS IS THAT THE SUPPLEMENT IS TO ASK FOR WHAT WE NEED, WHICH WOULD BE, IF WE ANTICIPATE OUR EXPENSES FOR SALARIES BEING 5.2 AND WE SAVED 7.3, THEN WE, WE WOULD HAVE THAT AND WE WOULD ASK FOR A SUPPLEMENT IN ANOTHER CATEGORY AND NOT IN, IN SALARIES.
AND, AND WE WOULD ASK FOR THAT IN THE CATEGORY WHERE THERE WAS OVERSPENDING, BECAUSE THEN WE WOULD NEED TO MAKE THAT UP THROUGH THE SUPPLEMENT.
I, I MEAN, WE, BUT MAYBE I'M THINKING TOO WELL LOGICALLY ABOUT THIS.
I MEAN THAT, WELL, YOU, YOU COULD CHANGE, BUT IT, AND AGAIN, WE HAVE, THERE WOULD JUST BE THAT MUCH MORE EXCESS IN INSTRUCTIONAL SALARIES.
IT'S NOT CHANGING HOW WE'RE GONNA SPEND THE MONEY.
THE REASON WE DID IT THIS WAY, UH, I'LL JUST MENTION AGAIN, WAS BECAUSE THE SUPPLEMENT WAS TO SUPPORT THE COMPENSATION INCREASES.
SO WE THOUGHT A LOGICAL WAY TO DO IT WOULD BE THE SUPPLEMENTS FOR THE SALARIES.
LET'S APPLY THESE TO SALARIES, JUST PROPORTIONAL TO HOW MUCH SALARIES ARE IN EACH ACTIVITY.
THEN WE SEPARATELY LOOKED AT, OKAY, WHERE ARE WE SHORT AND WHERE DO WE HAVE, UH, UM, EXCESS AND MOVE THAT? SO WE COULD MOVE IT FROM DIFFERENT THINGS TO DIFFERENT PLACES, BUT IN THE END, NONE OF THE SPENDING WILL CHANGE, UM, THE BUDGET BY ACTIVITY.
THE, THE ONES THAT ARE INCREASES, THOSE ARE GONNA BE THE SAME NO MATTER WHAT.
THOSE ACTIVITIES ARE GONNA BE THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY IN THE END, BECAUSE THEY'RE SHORT.
WE CAN SOURCE IT A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
BUT IN THE END, UM, IT, THERE'S NO PRACTICAL IMPACT FROM THAT BECAUSE ALL THE ACT, ANYTHING WE UNDERSPEND WILL DROP INTO FUND BALANCE AT YEAR END ANYWAY.
MY REQUEST WOULD BE, UM, TO RECEIVE, UH, DETAILED REQUEST.
SO THE SUMMARY OF INCREASES, WE KNOW THAT IS FIXED.
THESE ARE THE ITEMS THAT REQUIRE THE INCREASES.
WHAT I AM HEARING ARE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THE FISCAL TEAM HAS IDENTIFIED THE SUMMARY OF DECREASES BY CATEGORY.
IS THERE A PREFERENCE TO IDENTIFY SOME DIFFERENT CATEGORIES? AND IF SO, UM, IT'S NOT LIKELY THAT YOU CAN DO THAT ON THE SPOT.
I WOULD ASK TODAY IS TUESDAY THAT BY THURSDAY? UM, OR, OR BY FRIDAY IF THAT INFORMATION IS SHARED WITH US AND WE CAN PLAN FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
SO MY QUESTION IS, CAN WE DO THIS AGAIN ON OUR MAY 5TH MEETING? OR DO WE NEED A SPECIAL MEETING NEXT WEEK? SO THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING ABOUT THE TIMING OF WHEN YOU NEED, WE'LL, WE'LL CHECK WITH THE COUNTY TOMORROW IF THAT WILL MEET THEIR NEEDS.
MS. DOKI, I I JUST HAVE ONE REQUEST THAT I KNOW I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE.
BECAUSE BY HAVING THE EXCESS IN SALARIES, SALARY SAVINGS, WE IN EFFECT COULD HAVE FULLY FUNDED OUR, UM, OUR, OUR INCREASED SALARIES FOR ALL OF OUR INSTRUCTIONAL STAFF.
AND THAT WAS, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SWITCH THAT.
LIKE MO TAKE WE, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN CONFIRMED.
WE WOULDN'T HAVE NEEDED THE EXTENSION BECAUSE WE HAD THIS, THE SALARY INSTRUCTIONAL SAVINGS.
AND I WANT LIKE THAT TO BE REFLECTED IN THE BE AS OPPOSED TO THE SUPPLEMENT THAT WAY.
CAN YOU SAY THAT AGAIN? I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE CHANGE AS FAR AS THE SALARY SAVINGS OF THE 7.6 MILLION THAT WE'VE MADE, THAT WE HAD.
DON'T TAKE DO IT WITHOUT MOVING THAT IN THE BAT.
I WOULD LIKE THE INSTRUCTIONAL SALARIES TO BE INCLUDED IN THE BAT BECAUSE WE HAD THE MONEY TO FUND THOSE SALARIES FULLY WITHOUT NEEDING AN EXTENSION FOR A, A SUPPLEMENTAL DR A SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET.
AND I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE REFLECTIVE IN THE BAT AS OPPOSED TO THE SUPPLEMENT.
I THINK YOU WANNA ADD THE SUPPLEMENT.
AM I DOING THE REVERSE? YOU WANNA ADD THE SUPPLEMENT? YOU DON'T WANT US TO ADD THE MONEY INTO THE SUPPLEMENT? NO, I WANNA TAKE, DID I SAY
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IT THAT WAY? I'M SORRY.I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE IT OUTTA THE SUPPLEMENT AND PUT IT INTO THE BAT.
THE INSTRUCTIONAL SALARIES THAT WE, THE INCREASE OF THE 5.26 MILLION THAT WE NEED TO FULLY FUND OUR INSTRUCTIONAL THAT WE ASKED FOR BECAUSE WE THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA NEED IT.
I WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE MOVED INTO THE BAT.
AND BECAUSE WE HAVE THE INSTRUCTIONAL SALARY SAVINGS THERE ALREADY.
AND THAT SHOULD BE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE REFLECTION IN.
SO, UH, IF I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
SO ON THE DECREASE RIGHT NOW, INSTEAD OF TAKING 7.3 MILLION IN SALARIES, WE LEAVE IT AND WE TAKE THE 7.3 MILLION, WE MOVE THE SUPPLEMENT AROUND WHERE WE MIGHT HAVE TO ADD MORE MONEY TO A DIFFERENT ACTIVITY IN THE SUPPLEMENT.
JUST THE 5.26 JUST OUT OF THAT.
'CAUSE WE HAVE SEVEN POINT, BUT I FORGET THE NUMBER ALREADY.
THE 7.3 IS BEING USED TO SUPPORT THE THINGS ON THE TOP.
SO IF WE DON'T TAKE THAT OUT OF, THEN WE NEED TO MOVE, WE STILL NEED TO MOVE, MOVE IN BECAUSE WE HAVE THE MONEY FOR THE, WE HAVE THE MONEY TO FUND.
WE HAD THE MONEY TO FUND OUR INSTRUCTIONAL TEACHERS AND THAT IS OUR, SUPPOSED TO BE OUR PRIORITY.
SO IF WE ALREADY HAD THE MONEY, I WOULD'VE LIKED TO HAVE SEEN THE FUNDING.
I I KNOW I'M HAVE THAT TIME, BUT THAT'S, I YES, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO PULL THE MONEY FOR SOMETHING ELSE.
I JUST WANNA, WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT IN THE SUPPLEMENT AS OPPOSED TO INSTRUCTIONAL SALARIES.
SO JUST IN INSTRUCTIONAL SALARIES, DON'T, WE JUST WON'T SHOW THE SET 5.4 MILLION.
AND SO WE'LL DO LIKE 1.9 MILLION ON HERE, JUST FULLY FUND THE INSTRUCTIONAL SALARIES IN THE BAT AS OPPOSED TO THE SUPPLEMENT.
UM, MR. TANIFF, I THINK WHAT MS. MINOSKI IS GETTING AT IS AT THE BAT, AND WE'RE GONNA USE NICE ROUND NUMBERS.
UM, WHEREAS YOU'RE TAKING OUT 21 MILLION, TAKE OUT 15 MILLION, THEREBY LEAVING 6 MILLION IN, THAT WOULD'VE COME IN UNDER THE SUPPLEMENT.
OKAY, WE'LL WORK THAT WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE WILL ACCOMPLISH THAT TASK.
WE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU STILL WILL NEED TO, RIGHT.
UM, ADJUST OTHER CATEGORIES TO, TO KEEP THAT, THAT SAME NUMBER.
BUT JUST FOR SIMPLICITY SAKE, LEAVE WHAT'S ALREADY THE INSTRUCTIONAL SAVINGS ALREADY THERE, OR 6 MILLION OF THAT.
I THINK WE UNDER IF, IF WE CAN, UH, CERTAINLY DO THAT.
I THINK WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT MISSION.
SO, SO THE MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.
SO THE BOTTOM LINE ON BOTH OF THESE DOCUMENTS IS GONNA BE THE SAME.
IT'S JUST GONNA BE IN DIFFERENT CATEGORIES AND DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS. BUT ULTIMATELY THEY'RE BOTH GONNA END UP IN THE SAME PLACE.
JUST, IT'S GONNA READ DIFFERENTLY.
WE STILL HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE THE SUPPLEMENTAL.
WHAT'S THE END OF THAT TITLE? SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION.
THE MOTION WAS TO APPROVE THE SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET APPROPRIATION.
SO NOW WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL VOTE, AND THEN WE'LL DECIDE WHAT OUR NEXT STEPS ARE.
SO NOW IF WE APPROVED THAT ONE, THEN HOW DO WE CHANGE ONE WITHOUT CHANGING THE OTHER? SO THAT, SO WHAT THE ASK WAS WON'T WORK 'CAUSE WE JUST APPROVED IT AS IS, CORRECT? OR AM I ON A DIFFERENT PLACE NOW? THAT IS CORRECT.
SO BASED ON THAT VOTE WE JUST HAD MS. DOKI AND MS. HEN WHAT YOU ASKED THEM TO DO CAN'T BE DONE.
THE NUMBERS AREN'T GONNA CHANGE, BUT WE, BUT WE APPROVED IT AS IS.
I KNOW, BUT THEY'RE CONTINGENT UPON ONE ANOTHER.
SO NEITHER OF THEM PASSED IF ONE OF NO, THE SECOND ONE PASSED.
BUT IF THEY'RE CONTINGENT UPON EACH OTHER, WELL ONE OF THEM CAN GO.
JAMA WE CAN'T DO ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER ONE.
WE'LL BRING BACK MAY 5TH, WE'LL BE BACK.
SO DO I NEED TO DO A MOTION TO RECONSIDER AND THEN WE ALL DO I NEED TO DO THAT MAKE BECAUSE I VOTED YES.
NO, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO IT OUT ANYWAY TO GET, OKAY.
I THINK IF THEY NEED BOTH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE MAY 5TH MEETING THE VOTE ON THE FIRST ONE BEFORE THEY CAN RIGHT.
WE JUST VOTED TOGETHER TO THE COUNTY.
SOMEONE WHO VOTED IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION, UH, NEEDS TO CONSIDER.
WE NEED TO MOVE TO RECONSIDER.
IF YOU WANNA BRING HIM BACK IN TANDEM, I MOVE TO RECONSIDER THE VOTE ON THE SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET APPROPRIATION.
DOES EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DOING? OKAY.
GIVE MS. GOVER A MINUTE TO CATCH UP.
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THIS IS MS. SLAWSKY.UM, SO IS THIS A REVOTE OF WHAT WE JUST DID? WE ARE REVOLTING WHAT WE JUST DID BECAUSE THE TWO DOCUMENTS NEED TO BE IN TANDEM AND WE APPROVED ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER, BUT THEY CAN'T FIX ONE WITHOUT FIXING THE OTHER.
SO WE NEED TO UNDO OUR VOTE AND THANK YOU.
SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE VOTING ON THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER, AND THEN IF THAT PASSES, THEN WE WILL VOTE AGAIN.
SO WE'RE VOTING ON THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER THE VOTE.
OKAY, MS. GOBER, YOU READY? MR. YOUNG? YES.
SO NOW GOING BACK TO THE MOTION AGAIN.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ANNUAL SUPPLEMENTAL? OH, WE ALREADY DID THAT.
DO I NEED TO MAKE MOTIONS AGAIN? ALL YOU'VE DONE IS RECONSIDER, RIGHT? SO NOW I GOTTA GO BACK TO YOUR ORIGINAL MOTION.
SO READ IT AGAIN, RIGHT? ALL RIGHT.
WE HAVE TO SAY NO THIS TIME TO MAKE THIS WORK.
ROGER, IF YOU SAID YES, PLEASE SAY NO.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? AM I READING THE MOTION AGAIN? NO.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ANNUAL SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET APPROPRIATION AS PRESENTED? EXCUSE ME.
WAIT, YOU ALREADY HAD, WE'RE JUST, WE I NEED TO DO IT AGAIN.
IF YOU DON'T GET A MOTION, THEN IT'S THAT IT ENDS AND NO ACTION WAS TAKEN.
WE GOT, I DON'T KNOW, MR. DOKI AND THEN
AND THEN WHO SECONDED? MR. YOUNG.
MAY I ROLL? CALL, VOTE PLEASE.
DO Y'ALL KNOW HOW TO VOTE? YES.
SO THEN WE, ONCE WE FIND OUT THE DATE OF WHEN YOU NEED THIS, YOU PREFER TO BRING IT BACK ON MAY 5TH? THAT'S OUR PREFERENCE.
IF WE NEED IT BEFORE WHAT? NO.
WE'LL BRING IT BACK THE MAY 5TH BOARD OF ED MEETING.
BUT IF THEY NEED IT SOONER, BUT THEY NEED IT SOONER THAN WE HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING.
I THINK YOU GUYS ARE OKAY TO, TO LEAVE.
IF YOU NEED ASSISTANCE, LET US KNOW.
ALRIGHT, HOPEFULLY THIS NEXT ONE WILL BE OKAY.
[P. NEW BUSINESS - PROPOSED BOARD MEETING SCHEDULE FOR 2026-2027 (Ms. Lichter) (8:45 - 8:55 p.m.)]
THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS TO PROPOSE BOARD MEETING SCHEDULE FOR 26 27 PURSUANT TO BOARD POLICY 83 11.EACH APRIL THE BOARD OF EDUCATION WILL ADOPT A SCHEDULE OF ITS REGULAR MEETINGS FOR THE SUCCEEDING SCHOOL YEAR.
THE ATTACHED DATES AND TIMES ARE FOR BOARD OF ED MEETINGS, WORK SESSIONS, AND PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR THE 20 26 20 27 SCHOOL YEAR.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE PROPOSED BOARD MEETING SCHEDULE FOR 2026.
MAY I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND DOKI.
ANY DISCUSSION MS. HUMPHREY? I APOLOGIZE, BUT NO, I DON'T.
I HAVE A MOTION TO AMEND THE OCTOBER 20TH MEETING TO MOVE IT TO OCTOBER 21ST.
I'LL GET A SECOND BEFORE I DISCUSS.
UM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION, MS. EY? YES.
I JUST, I FEEL LIKE EVERY YEAR IN OCTOBER WHEN THE MA, WE HAVE THE MAID CONFERENCE, SOME OF US HAVE DIFFICULTY GETTING HOME IN TIME TO ATTEND THE MEETING.
AND IT BECOMES A PARTICULAR CONCERN IF WE SERVE ON A MA MAID COMMITTEE AS WELL, BECAUSE THEY LIKE US TO BE THERE FOR THE ENTIRE CONFERENCE.
SO I NEED A, WHAT WAS THIS? DID YOU HAVE A SECOND? YES.
SO NOW WE NEED A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THE RIGHT.
A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THE AMENDED MOTION OF MOVING OCTOBER 20TH BOARD MEETING TO OCTOBER 21ST.
SO NOW MAY WE HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED BOARD MEETING SCHEDULED FOR 20 26 20 27 AS AMENDED? WE HAVE, WE HAVE IT ALREADY.
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I'M SORRY, MR. YOUNG? YES.[Q. INFORMATION (8:55 p.m.)]
ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS INFORMATION, WHICH INCLUDES THE REVISED SUPERINTENDENT'S RULES, 31, 30 AND 6,000.[R. BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS AND AGENDA SETTING (8:55 - 9:05 p.m.)]
THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS AND AGENDA SETTING.IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR AGENDA SETTING, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
I HAVE A MOTION AND IT, UH, IT'D UP IN THE NEED TO SEND IT.
I MOVE THAT WE, THE BALTIMORE COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION REQUEST COUNTY EXECUTIVE KATHY MEYER TO AND HEAR YOU.
I'M SORRY, I MOVE THAT WE, THE BALTIMORE COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION REQUEST, KATH REQUEST COUNTY EXECUTIVE KATHY KLOS TO EXPLAIN HER DECISION FOR NOT CONTINUING TO FUND FULL-TIME LIBRARY MEDIA SPECIALIST FOR THE 26TH 27TH SCHOOL YEAR.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND LESKY.
ANY DISCUSSION? DO YOU WANNA DISCUSS YOUR MOTION? WELL, WE WERE INFORMED EARLIER THIS EVENING THAT THAT IS A, A STATUTE OR WHATEVER THAT CAN BE PURSUED AND I'D LIKE TO PURSUE IT.
FURTHER DISCUSSION, MS. HUMPHREY? UM, MY ONLY CONCERN, AND I'M THINKING ABOUT THIS, IS THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD REWORD IT TO NOT SPECIFICALLY ASK HER TO EXPLAIN HER DECISION FOR NOT CONTINUING TO FUND FULL FUND, FULL-TIME LIBRARY MEDIA SPECIALISTS, BUT TO IN GENERAL ASK HER FOR A REPORT, AS MR. BURNS MENTIONED, REGARDING WHAT SHE APPROVED AND WHAT SHE DIDN'T APPROVE.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW TO WORD THAT, BUT THAT'S MY CONCERN.
I THINK IT SHOULD BE MORE GENERAL.
I COME BACK TO THAT IS THEN IF IT'S MORE GENERAL, THEN SHE MIGHT NOT ANSWER THE QUESTION.
THIS POINTS OUT SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE WANT ANSWERED.
MS. DOKI, I THINK THE DETAILS WOULD BE, UM, TO GIVE A WRITTEN RESPONSE TO WHAT, WHAT WAS FUNDED, WHAT WAS REDUCTED, WHY IT WAS REDUCTED, IT, IT WOULD INCLUDE THAT, BECAUSE THAT WAS ON THE LINE ITEMS. IF YOU LOOKED AT THE BUDGET PROPOSED AND THE, UM, SUPERINTENDENT PROPOSED, LIKE YOU COULD SEE WHERE IT WAS AND WHAT WASN'T ACCEPTED.
AND, AND THE, THE, ON THE BUDGET 1 0 1, THE ONE THAT WAS GIVEN TO US.
SO SHE WOULD NEED TO EXPLAIN WHAT THE MONEY, WHY IT WENT OUT.
SHE GAVE US MORE MONEY, BUT WHAT IT WAS NEEDED TO BE USED FOR.
SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND WHAT MS. HUMPHREY'S SAYING.
MR. YOUNG, THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE, AS EVERYBODY MENTIONED, GAVE US, UM, WORK TO GIVE US MORE BECAUSE SHE UNDERSTOOD THE NEED.
UM, I THINK TRYING TO, UM, IT IT'S WITHIN HER PURVIEW TO DECIDE, YOU KNOW, WHAT TO FUND AND NOT FUND WITHIN OUR BUDGET.
AND THIS WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SHE DECIDED NOT TO FUND THAT.
SO WE SHOULD NOT TRY TO, UM, ALIENATE, I GUESS, UM, ALIENATE PRESS HER ON HER DECISION MAKING PROCESS.
MS. HUMPHREY? THAT'S, THAT'S PARTIALLY THE REASON FOR MY RE REWORDING OF THIS.
I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO SOUND AS HARSH AND DIRECT.
UM, BUT MAY I REQUEST THAT MR. BURNS REREAD THE REGULATION? I THINK THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL IN, UM, FORMATTING OUR, THE LANGUAGE SO THAT WE'RE DOING WHAT IT SAYS IN REGULATION THAT WE'RE, WE'RE ENTITLED TO.
I THINK THAT'S MY POINT HERE FOR THE RECORD.
DARREN BURNS BOARD COUNSEL, THE STATUTE THAT BOARD MEMBERS ARE CITING IS SECTION FIVE DASH 1 0 2 OF THE EDUCATION ARTICLE AND 5 1 0 2 OF THE EDUCATION ARTICLE IN SUBSECTION, UH, B UM, EXCUSE ME.
C UH, TWO INDICATES THAT, AND THIS IS A QUOTE, THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE SHALL INDICATE IN WRITING, WHICH MAJOR CATEGORIES OF THE ANNUAL BUDGET OF THE COUNTY BOARD HAVE BEEN DENIED IN WHOLE OR REDUCED IN PART AND THE REASON FOR THE DENIAL OR REDUCTION.
SO IF YOU ARE ASKING MY ADVICE, I WOULD SUGGEST MS. RE'S IDEA IS THE BETTER WAY TO PROCEED BECAUSE YOU'RE FOLLOWING THE STATUTORY LANGUAGE AND IF YOU HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS AFTER WHAT YOU GET BACK, YOU CAN CERTAINLY FOLLOW UP.
AND, AND AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, YOU KNOW, KATHY MEYER IS AN INTERIM COUNTY EXECUTIVE.
[03:05:01]
ON HER WAY OUT.YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, ACCORDING TO THAT DOCUMENT, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, REASON TO ASK AND WHY NOT ASK, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT LIBRARIAN MEDIA SPECIALISTS DESERVE AN ANSWER AND WE CAN'T GIVE 'EM THE ANSWER.
SO WHY NOT ASK HER, HOLD HER FEET TILL THE FIRE AND ASK HER, BUT WE'RE STILL NOT FINISHED THE BUDGET PROCESS.
SO COUNTY COUNCIL CAN STILL WATCH THIS AND THEN NIX IT TOO.
UM, OTHER DISCUSSION, MS. HEN? I'VE PREPARED AN ALTERNATE MOTION IF MR. MCMILLION HAS WITHDRAWN HIS MOTION THAT I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST, BUT I'M OPEN TO WHATEVER YOU GOT SAY I, I PUT THE WORDING IN THE CHAT IF YOU'D LIKE TO, UM, USE IT OR MODIFY IT.
MR. MCMILLION, IF I MAY READ IT.
UM, I MOVE THAT BOARD COUNCIL, PREPARE A WRITTEN REQUEST TO THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE AS TO THE REASONS FOR ANY REDUCTIONS TO THE BOARD'S FY 2027 BUDGET REQUEST.
SO IS THERE A SECOND TO, SO YOU'RE MAKING THAT MOTION NOW.
DOES THAT HOW PROCEDURALLY WE WHERE WE ARE? I CAN, I'M HAPPY TO MAKE THE MOTION UNLESS MR. MCMILLIAN WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT SECOND IT, UM, MAKE THE MOTION.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THE MOTION THAT'S WRITTEN IN NOW, MS. PUMPHREY, I SEE THAT YOU'RE TYPING AWAY.
WHAT ARE YOU ABOUT TO DO? I HONESTLY, I WOULD PREFER TO USE, I KNOW, KNOW, IT'S OF THE STATUTE, THE LEGALITY WITH MY MIND SPEAKING, I WOULD LIKE TO USE THE EXACT WORDING OF THE STATUTE, WHICH I'M, IS WHAT I'M TYPING.
IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU HAVE.
YES, I, IN THE WORDING OF MY MOTION, I HAD ASSUMED THAT MR. BURNS WOULD INCLUDE THE WORDING OF THE STATUTE IN HIS REQUEST IN.
AND I'M HAPPY TO INCLUDE THAT IF YOU'D LIKE IT IN THE MOTION.
MS. MARRE, DO YOU, ARE YOU STILL TYPING OR ARE WE OKAY WITH WHAT? YES, I HAVE A QUESTION.
SO THE DIFFERENCE HERE IS YOU'RE ASKING THAT MR. BURNS PREPARE A LETTER REQUESTING THIS INFORMATION AND HE CAN INCLUDE IN HIS LETTER THE EXACT LANGUAGE OF THE STATUTE.
IS THERE, DO WE HAVE A SECOND TO MS. HEN'S MOTION? SECOND DOKI.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. BURNS.
IF IT'S IN, I MEAN, IF WE'RE LEGALLY SUPPOSED TO RECEIVE THAT, DO WE EVEN NEED TO MAKE A MOTION? YEAH, YOU DON'T.
BUT IF YOU HAVEN'T RECEIVED IT, THERE'S NO REASON YOU CAN'T ASK FOR IT.
AND IT'S APPROPRIATE TO COME FROM THE BOARD ON, FROM THE CHAIR ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD, OR FROM THE SUPERINTENDENT ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD.
IT, IT, I DON'T SO CAN I ASK? I JUST, YEAH, YOU, YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE TO ASK FOR IT.
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO GET IT RIGHT, BUT IF YOU'D LIKE TO GET IT AND MAKE SURE YOU GET IT, THEN YOU JUST SIMPLY MAKE A REQUEST.
BUT IT DOESN'T, DOES IT HAVE TO COME FROM BOARD LEADERSHIP? I MEAN, THAT'S USUALLY, THAT'S USUALLY WHAT BOARDS DO.
IF THEY'RE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING FROM THEIR COUNTERPARTS AT THE COUNCIL AND HAVEN'T RECEIVED IT YET.
BUT THEN WOULDN'T WE? BUT HAVE WE EVER RECEIVED THAT? WE'RE LEGALLY SUPPOSED TO.
SO MY ADVICE TO MY ADVICE, I'M GONNA GIVE LEGAL ADVICE IN OPEN HERE.
MY ADVICE TO YOU IS TO FILE THE STATUTE AND SIMPLY MAKE A REQUEST FROM LEADERSHIP TO LEADERSHIP FOR WHAT YOU NEED UNDER THE STATUTE.
UM, OKAY THEN WE'RE BACK TO BOARD COMMENTS OR AN AGENDA SETTING ITEMS MR. YOUNG, CONSIDERING MSDE HAS CHANGED, UM, MATH, CONSOLIDATING, YOU KNOW, THREE COURSES INTO TWO MM-HMM
UM, I GUESS AT SOME POINT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A REPORT FROM US OF HOW WE ARE HANDLING THAT, OR ANY GUIDANCE THAT'S GOING TO BE PROVIDED FROM MSDE ABOUT THAT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR REQUEST FOR AGENDA ITEMS? MS. PUMPHREY? I JUST HAVE A COMMENT.
UM, WE HEARD A COMMENT THIS EVENING FROM RAMONA BASILIO REGARDING THE CELL PHONE POLICY, AND I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT IN MY CURRENT RECENT VISITS THIS YEAR TO MIDDLE SCHOOLS, I NOTICED A HUGE DIFFERENCE AS FAR AS, UH, PHONES NOT IN STUDENTS' HANDS.
THEY WERE ENGAGED IN INSTRUCTION, NOT IN THE HALLWAYS WITH THEIR PHONES.
[03:10:01]
TO PRINCIPALS AND TEACHERS AT THOSE SCHOOLS WHO ARE ALSO NOTICING A BIG DIFFERENCE.SO I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE ARE MAKING A DIFFERENCE AS FAR AS THE CELL PHONE POLICY.
ANYONE ELSE? AND I DID JUST WANNA ADD TO WHAT MS. PUMPHREY JUST SAID.
I ALSO SPOKE TO STUDENTS WHO ORIGINALLY THOUGHT THAT THEY WEREN'T GOING TO BE A FAN OF THE CELL PHONE POLICY, BUT SINCE THEN, CHANGED THEIR OPINION A HUNDRED PERCENT.
SO EVEN THE STUDENTS ARE BEING REALLY RECEPTIVE TO THAT.
ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA ANNOUNCEMENTS.
I'M SORRY, MY COMPUTER JUST WENT BACKWARDS.
[S. ANNOUNCEMENTS (9:05 p.m.)]
THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA ANNOUNCEMENTS.THE BOARD'S NEXT MEETING WILL BE HELD, FINGERS CROSSED ON TUESDAY, MAY 5TH, 2026 AT 6:30 PM THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT.