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GOOD EVENING.[B. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE/SILENT MEDITATION (6:30 p.m.)]
THIS IS CHAIRWOMAN JANE LICHTER.I NOW CALL TO ORDER THE MEETING OF THE BOARD OF EDUCATION OF BALTIMORE COUNTY FOR TUESDAY, MAY 5TH, 2026.
I WANT YOU TO RECITE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG TO BE LED BY MS. FORESITE UNAMI.
WE WILL THEN HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND RECOGNITION OF THOSE WHO HAVE SERVED EDUCATION IN BALTIMORE COUNTY.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
TONIGHT'S BOARD OF EDUCATION MEETING IS BEING BROADCAST THROUGH THE BCPS ONLINE LIVE MEETING BROADCAST AND ON BCPS TV, COMCAST XFINITY, CHANNEL 1 0 7 3 AND VERIZON FIOS, CHANNEL 34.
IN ORDER TO EFFICIENTLY CONDUCT THIS MEETING, ALL VOTING ITEMS THIS EVENING WILL BE DONE BY ROLL CALL VOTE.
[C. AGENDA (6:35 p.m.)]
IS THE CONSIDERATION OF THE MAY 5TH AGENDA.DR. ROGERS, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CHANGES TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA? I AM UNAWARE OF ANY ADDITIONS OR CHANGES TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
THE AGENDA STANDS AS PRESENTED EARLIER THIS EVENING.
THE BOARD MET ENCLO SESSION PURSUANT TO THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS TO DISCUSS THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT ASSIGNMENT, PROMOTION, DISCIPLINED DEMOTION, COMPENSATION REMOVAL, RESIGNATION OR PERFORMANCE EVALUATION OF APPOINTEES, EMPLOYEES OR OFFICIALS OVER WHOM IT HAS JURISDICTION OR ANY OTHER PERSONAL MATTER THAT AFFECTS ONE OR MORE SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS, AND CONSULT WITH COUNSEL TO OBTAIN LEGAL ADVICE.
[D. NEW BUSINESS - PERSONNEL MATTERS (Mr. McCall) (6:45 - 6:50 p.m.)]
ON THE AGENDA IS PERSONNEL MATTERS, AND FOR THAT I CALL ON MR. MCCALL.CHAIR, TER, SUPERINTENDENT, DR. ROGERS AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I'D LIKE THE BOARD'S CONSENT FOR THE FOLLOWING, PER PERSONNEL MATTERS.
TONIGHT WE HAVE RETIREMENTS, RESIGNATIONS, AND LEAVES.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PERSONNEL MATTERS AS PRESENTED IN EXHIBITS D ONE THROUGH D THREE? SO MOVE EY.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, YOUNG.
ANY DISCUSSION? MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE PLEASE.
[E. NEW BUSINESS - ADMINISTRATIVE APPOINTMENTS (Dr. Rogers) (6:50 - 7:00 p.m.)]
THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ADMINISTRATIVE APPOINTMENTS, AND FOR THAT I CALL ON DR. ROGERS.THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR LICHTER AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I'M BRINGING FORWARD THE FOLLOWING ADMINISTRATIVE APPOINTMENTS FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, DEPARTMENT OF SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND GRANT PRINCIPAL CATONSVILLE HIGH SCHOOL PRINCIPAL, MIDDLEBOROUGH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND SENIORS OPERATIONS SUPERVISOR, OFFICE OF FACILITIES MAINTENANCE.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ADMINISTRATIVE APPOINTMENTS AS PRESENTED? EXHIBIT E ONE.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND SAVOY.
ANY DISCUSSION? MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE PLEASE.
OUR FIRST APPOINTMENT THIS EVENING IS JACOB BOSWICK.
PLEASE STAND TO BE RECOGNIZED.
JACOB IS ATTENDING THIS EVENING WITH HIS GUEST, WAYNE BELT JR.
AND IS BEING APPOINTED AS THE SENIOR OPERATIONS SUPERVISOR IN THE OFFICE OF FACILITIES MAINTENANCE WITH 18 YEARS OF SERVICE WITH BALTIMORE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
JACOB'S PRIOR EXPERIENCES INCLUDE BUILDING SERVICE WORKER AT MIDDLEBOROUGH ELEMENTARY BUILDING SERVICE FLOOR CARE WORKER WITH THE OFFICE OF FACILITIES ASSISTANT BUILDING OPERATIONS SUPERVISOR AT PERRY HALL HIGH SCHOOL BUILDING OPERATIONS SUPERVISOR AT KEARNEY ELEMENTARY AND SPARROWS POINT MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOLS PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE TECHNICIAN WITH THE OFFICE OF FACILITIES OPERATIONS AND LEAD BUILDING AUTOMATIONS TECHNICIANS, SENIOR FACILITIES INSPECTOR AND FIELD REPRESENTATIVE WITH THE OFFICE OF FACILITIES MAINTENANCE.
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OUR NEXT APPOINTMENT IS ANN CARES.ANNIE IS ATTENDING THIS EVENING WITH HER HUSBAND JASON AND IS BEING APPOINTED AS THE PRINCIPAL CATONSVILLE HIGH SCHOOL WITH 16 YEARS OF SERVICE WITH BALTIMORE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
HER PRIOR EXPERIENCES INCLUDE SOCIAL STUDIES TEACHER AT DUNDALK HIGH IN CATONSVILLE HIGH SCHOOL AND ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL AT CATONSVILLE HIGH SCHOOL.
PRIOR TO THAT, ANNE SERVED AS A PROGRAM DIRECTOR FOR TEACH FOR AMERICA AND A SOCIAL STUDIES TEACHER IN BALTIMORE CITY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
OUR NEXT APPOINTMENT FOR THIS EVENING EVENING IS AMY ROKI.
PLEASE STAND TO BE RECOGNIZED.
AMY IS ATTENDING THIS EVENING WITH HER HUSBAND JOHN AND IS BEING APPOINTED AS THE PRINCIPAL AT MIDDLEBOROUGH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WITH 18 YEARS OF SERVICE WITH BALTIMORE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
HER PRIOR EXPERIENCES INCLUDE ELEMENTARY CLASSROOM TEACHER AT RANDALLSTOWN ELEMENTARY AND WARREN ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS STAFF DEVELOPMENT TEACHER AT ESSEX ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL AT SENECA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
OUR NEXT APPOINTMENT THIS EVENING IS MICHELLE STANSBERRY.
MICHELLE STANSBERRY IS ATTENDING THIS EVENING WITH HER DAUGHTER AND HER SOON TO BE SON-IN-LAW, WILLIAM AND IS BEING APPOINTED AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IN THE DEPARTMENT OF SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND GRANTS WITH 27 YEARS OF SERVICE WITH BALTIMORE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
MICHELLE'S BCPS EXPERIENCE INCLUDES ELEMENTARY CLASSROOM TEACHER AT HELP, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL MENTOR TEACHER AT PAL HATTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND SPECIALIST SUPERVISOR, COORDINATOR AND DIRECTOR IN THE OFFICE OF TITLE ONE.
[F. PUBLIC COMMENT (7:00 - 7:40 p.m.)]
IS PUBLIC COMMENT.THIS IS ONE OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THE BOARD PROVIDES TO HEAR THE VIEWS AND RECEIVE THE ADVICE OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
IF NOT SELECTED TO ADDRESS THE BOARD, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY SUBMIT THEIR COMMENTS TO THE BOARD MEMBERS VIA EMAIL AT B OE@BBCPS.ORG.
THE BALTIMORE COUNTY POLICE DEPARTMENT'S HOMELAND SECURITY UNIT AND OFFICE OF SCHOOL SAFETY HAS RECOMMENDED SAFETY AND SECURITY PROTOCOLS, WHICH ARE POSTED IN THE BOARDROOM AND AVAILABLE IN BOARD DOCS AND ON THE BOARD'S PARTICIPATION BY THE PUBLIC WEBSITE.
WHILE WE ENCOURAGE PUBLIC INPUT ON POLICY PROGRAMS AND PRACTICES WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THIS BOARD AND THIS SCHOOL SYSTEM, THIS IS NOT THE PROPER FORM TO ADDRESS SPECIFIC STUDENT OR EMPLOYEE MATTERS OR TO COMMENT ON MATTERS THAT DO NOT RELATE TO PUBLIC EDUCATION IN BALTIMORE COUNTY.
INAPPROPRIATE PERSONAL REMARKS OR OTHER BEHAVIORS SUCH AS LANGUAGE THAT PROMOTES VIOLENCE AGAINST A-B-C-P-S EMPLOYER THAT DISRUPTS OR INTERFERES WITH THE CONDUCT OF THIS MEETING ARE OUT OF ORDER AND WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.
PERSONS WHO OTHERWISE DISRUPT OR DISTURB THIS MEETING WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE THEIR REMARKS AND WILL BE ESCORTED FROM THE MEETING.
PLEASE OBSERVE THE THREE MINUTE CLOCK, WHICH WILL LET YOU KNOW WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP.
THE MICROPHONE WILL BE TURNED OFF AT THE END OF YOUR TIME OR PRIOR TO THAT TIME AT THE DISCRETION OF THE BOARD CHAIR.
WE WILL BEGIN WITH OUR UNIONS AND OUR FIRST SPEAKER, UM, VIRTUALLY IS MR. BILLY BURKE.
EVENING MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, I AM BILLY BURKE, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF CASE.
I SPEAK BEFORE YOU TONIGHT TO GIVE VOICE TO A QUESTION THAT IS CURRENTLY ECHOING THROUGH EVERY HALLWAY OFFICE AND CLASSROOM IN THIS DISTRICT.
IT IS A SIMPLE QUESTION, BUT THE SILENCE FOLLOWING IT IS BECOMING DEAFENING.
WHAT IS THE PLAN? OUR ADMINISTRATORS ARE COMMITTED TO SUCCESS AND SAFETY OF EVERY STUDENT.
HOWEVER, WE ARE FACING A MATHEMATICAL IMPOSSIBILITY.
WE ARE BEING ASKED TO RAISE ACHIEVEMENT SCORES AND TIGHTEN SAFETY PROTOCOLS WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY FACING SIGNIFICANT STAFFING REDUCTIONS.
YOU CANNOT ASK LEADERS TO DO MORE WITH LESS INDEFINITELY WITHOUT A ROADMAP.
OUR MEMBERS NEED TO KNOW HOW THEY ARE EXPECTED TO BRIDGE THE GAP BETWEEN RISING EXPECTATIONS AND SHRINKING RESOURCES.
THE UNCERTAINTY IS PERHAPS MOST ACUTE FOR OUR ASSISTANT PRINCIPALS.
WE HAVE DEDICATED CASE MEMBERS AND CENTRAL OFFICE STAFF WHO HAVE BEEN TOLD THEIR POSITIONS AT THEIR CURRENT SCHOOLS AND OFFICES ARE BEING ELIMINATED FOR NEXT YEAR.
THEY UNDERSTAND THE BUDGET REALITIES, BUT THEY ARE CURRENTLY LIVING IN A PROFESSIONAL LIMBO.
HOW CAN WE EXPECT THESE LEADERS TO FINISH THE SCHOOL YEAR STRONG, PROVIDING RESOURCES AND SERVICES, ADMINISTERING STANDARDIZED TESTING, MANAGING
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FINALS, GRADUATIONS, AND SCHOOL CLIMATE WHEN THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY WILL BE? COME JULY.WE NEED A CLEAR TIMELINE AND A TRANSPARENT PLAN FOR THESE REASSIGNMENTS.
THEY DESERVE THE RESPECT OF KNOWING THEIR FUTURE.
FINALLY, WE MUST ADDRESS THE CLOCK.
WE ARE NOW LESS THAN 60 DAYS AWAY FROM HAVING NO SUPERINTENDENT AT THE HELM OF THIS DISTRICT.
A DISTRICT OF THIS SIZE CANNOT DRIFT.
STABILITY STARTS AT THE TOP, AND RIGHT NOW OUR MEMBERS FEEL AS THOUGH THEY ARE ROWING A SHIP WITHOUT A CAPTAIN IN SIGHT OF THE HORIZON.
WE NEED TO KNOW THE PLAN FOR THE TRANSITION OF LEADERSHIP WHO WILL BE MAKING THE HARD CALLS ON JULY 1ST.
IN CLOSING, WHAT'S THE PLAN ISN'T JUST A SLOGAN, IT'S A PLEA FOR STABILITY.
OUR ADMINISTRATORS ARE THE BACKBONE OF THIS DISTRICT.
THEY ARE READY TO DO THE WORK, BUT THEY CANNOT LEAD IN THE DARK.
WE ARE AGAIN ASKING THIS BOARD TO PROVIDE THE CLARITY, THE TIMELINE, AND THE VISION NECESSARY TO MOVE US FORWARD.
OUR STUDENTS, OUR STAFF, AND OUR CASE MEMBERS ARE WAITING FOR AN ANSWER.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER FROM TAPCO IS KA PRICE.
THANK YOU DR. ROGERS, CHAIR LICHTER AND THE ENTIRE BOARD.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME.
AS I MENTIONED, A FEW CONCERNS TO YOU TODAY.
I'M A MEMBER OF THE TABCO BOARD AND I SERVE DISTRICT ONE ON THE WEST SIDE.
I'M ALSO A PROUD LIBRARY MEDIA SPECIALIST AT HEP REAL ELEMENTARY.
FIRST, THE ISSUES OF MY COLLEAGUES.
THE SECONDARY LIBRARY MEDIA SPECIALIST TABCO HAS REVIEWED THE MINUTES AND THE VIDEO FROM THE FEBRUARY 24TH BOARD MEMBER AS WELL AS THE VOTE ON THE MOTION, AND WE BELIEVE BCPS HAS FAILED TO FOLLOW YOUR DIRECTIONS TO RESTORE ALL SECONDARY LIBRARY MEDIA SPECIALIST POSITIONS WITHOUT REQUIRING THEM TO TEACH CONTENT CLASSES.
WHEN ASKED HOW TO FUND MR. MCMILLAN'S MOTIONS, BCPS INDICATED IT WOULD BE TREATED AS ANY OTHER UNEXPECTED EXPENDITURE.
THIS STRONGLY SUGGESTS THAT YOU, THE BOARD MEMBERS KNEW THAT YOU WERE DIRECTING BCPS TO REALLOCATE FUNDING, NOT TO MERELY CHANGE THE AMOUNT REQUESTED FROM THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE.
WE CALL ON THE BOARD TO REVIEW THIS MOTION AND THE VIDEO TO AS FIXATE YOUR WILL AND TO RESTORE THESE POSITIONS.
IT HAS A SECOND READ AND VOTE TONIGHT.
WE APPLAUD YOU AND WE HOPE THIS CRITICAL INITIATIVE REGARDING FEDERAL IMMIGRANT ENFORCEMENT AND STAFF TRAINING BECOME POLICY.
IT SENDS A SIGNAL TO ALL MEMBERS OF THE BCPS COMMUNITY THAT THIS BOARD THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THE MOMENT THAT WE ARE LIVING IN, WE STAND FOR FAIRNESS, CLARITY, AND THE RULE OF CHILDREN.
AND WITH THE CHILDREN OF BOTH IMMIGRANT AND MIXED STATUS, BACKGROUND HISTORY CALLS ON US TO STAND UP AND DO THE RIGHT THING.
NOW, HISTORY HAS ITS EYES ON YOU.
TONIGHT YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE RIGHT THING FOR CHILDREN, AND I WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO THE BALTIMORE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOL BOARD FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT AND SERVICE TO THE STUDENTS AND THE CHILDREN, THE CLASSROOM, AND IN EVERY LIBRARY.
OUR NEXT CATEGORY IS NONPROFIT COMMUNITY GROUPS, AND OUR SPEAKER IS MARIETTA ENGLISH.
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GOOD EVENING.LET ME BRING YOU SOME GOOD NEWS.
DR. ROGERS AND MEMBERS OF THE SCHOOL BOARD.
I AM MARIETTA ENGLISH AND I CHAIR THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE AND AXO FOR THE NAACP BALTIMORE COUNTY BRANCH.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK DR. ROGERS AND THE SCHOOL BOARD FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT OF THE AXO PROGRAM.
BECAUSE OF YOUR SUPPORT, YOU HAVE HELPED US DEVELOP LEADERS IN THE COMMUNITY, DR. ROGERS AND THE BOARD.
I AM SO PROUD OF OUR PARTNERSHIP AND WE ARE PROUD OF THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF BALTIMORE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
I'M HERE TO REPORT THAT WE HAD OUR COMPETITION ON APRIL 25TH AT NEWTOWN HIGH SCHOOL.
STUDENTS FROM CARVER, PIKESVILLE, OCK AND WOODLAWN PARTICIPATED IN THE CATEGORY OF POETRY WRITTEN LYRIC MOORE FROM PIKESVILLE WON SILVER IN ELON.
BRYANT WON BRONZE IN THE CATEGORY OF PAINTING.
ELON AARON DIXON WON SILVER AND ELON BRYANT WON BRONZE ALL FROM CARVER IN THE CATEGORY OF PHOTOGRAPHY.
AARON DIXON WON SILVER AND NLA WALLACE WON BRONZE ALL FROM CARVER IN THE CATEGORY OF DRAWING.
CARMEN COLLINS WON SILVER, AND COREY COFFEE WON BRONZE.
IF YOU CAN SEE, CARVER KIND OF DOMINATES THE CATEGORIES IN THE CATEGORY OF MUSICAL INSTRUMENT, BOTH CLASSICAL AND CONTEMPORARY.
DEMARCUS BEAL WON GOAL IN BOTH CATEGORIES, AND HE'S A STUDENT AT WOODLAWN, AND IF YOU COULD HERD HIM, PLAY THAT SAXOPHONE, HE WAS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.
SCULPTURE GOAL WENT TO ION BLAZE FROM CARVER AND THE DANCE CONTEMPORARY ONE GOAL WENT TO LONDON, RIGHT ALSO FROM CARVER.
THEY ARE CARVER, KIND OF DOMINATES THE CATEGORIES AND WE HAVE REALLY APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT OF THE BOARD.
WE APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT OF DR. ROGERS WITH AXO.
NOW WE ARE GETTING READY FOR THE NATIONAL COMPETITION IN CHICAGO, AND THIS YEAR WE INTEND TO BRING HOME GOAL IN EVERY CATEGORY THAT WE PARTICIPATE.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND WE'LL SEE YOU IN CHICAGO.
OUR NEXT CATEGORY ARE INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS OR STUDENTS, AND OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS ROOT DEMIO.
I APOLOGIZE IF I PRONOUNCED YOUR NAME WRONG, AND THAT'S VIRTUALLY, HE'S NOT THERE.
OKAY, OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JENNIFER BUCKMAN.
I WAS, UM, BEFORE YOU EARLIER THIS YEAR IN NOVEMBER BECAUSE THERE WAS A PROBLEM WITH MY PAY, SO THINGS WEREN'T BEING TAKEN OUT.
NOW I'M A RELATIVELY HEALTHY PERSON.
I MEAN THE OCCASIONAL EXTRA ESPRESSO SHOT IN THE MORNING BECAUSE I TEACH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN BALTIMORE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND I NEED IT, BUT OTHERWISE, FAIRLY HEALTHY, THANK GOD, BECAUSE MY DOCTOR CALLED ME A WEEK AND A HALF AGO, I HAD A DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT AND SHE SAID, CAN YOU PLEASE GO PRINT OUT YOUR INSURANCE CARDS? I SEEM TO BE THERE.
AND IMAGINE MY SURPRISE WHEN I DID NOT HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE.
AND IN NOVEMBER I HAD CALLED THE HELPLINE TO SAY, MY SON IS TURNING 26, HE WILL BE UNENROLLED FROM MY HEALTH INSURANCE.
ARE THERE STEPS I NEED TO TAKE? AND THEY SAID, ABSOLUTELY NOT ORACLE.
IT'S LIKE MAGIC, RIGHT? IT IS NOT MAGIC.
AND WHEN I CONTACTED, UM, BENEFITS, THEY LET ME KNOW THERE'S A GLITCH IN THE SYSTEM.
I SHOULD NOT BE HEARING OF A GLITCH IN OUR SYSTEM FROM MY MEDICAL DOCTOR.
I SHOULD BE HEARING FROM THE PEOPLE IN CHARGE OF OUR MEDICAL, LIKE OUR BENEFITS.
AND APPARENTLY I AM NOT THE ONLY PERSON IN BALTIMORE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS TO ALSO EXPERIENCE THIS GLITCH.
AND WHAT I WOULD REALLY LOVE IS THAT OUR COMMUNICATION AROUND ISSUES, ESPECIALLY WITH ORACLE, ARE MORE CLEARLY COMMUNICATED TO ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE LIKE ME.
I'M IN A NEW GRADE LEVEL, MY HUSBAND'S SELF-EMPLOYED.
I DON'T WANNA GO READ THE NEWS HUB ON A FRIDAY NIGHT AND GO THROUGH ALL THE THINGS TO FIND OUT THAT I NEED TO GO BACK INTO ORACLE EVERY SINGLE TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT MY PAY IS CORRECT AND
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MY BENEFITS ARE CORRECT.YOU HAVE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ON A PROGRAM AND WHAT YOU BOUGHT WAS A CAR WITH NO TIRES, NO STEERING WHEEL, NO AIRBAGS.
AND OUR ADMINISTRATORS ARE SPENDING INORDINATE AMOUNTS OF TIME ALSO ADMINISTERING TO THIS PROGRAM TIME THAT SHOULD BE SPENT WITH STUDENTS AND TEACHERS AND THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS INSTEAD OF MANAGING A PROGRAM THAT YOU SPENT, AGAIN, A LOT OF MONEY ON.
AND I THINK IT'S JUST REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE PUT A HUMAN FACE ON THESE THINGS.
WHEN WE ARE IN DATA MEETINGS AROUND STUDENTS, WE ALWAYS SAY IT'S 2%, 1%, 10%, BUT WE DIG DEEPER.
WE WANNA KNOW WHO THOSE KIDS ARE SO WE CAN REACH THEM.
AND I'M JUST HERE TONIGHT TO SAY, HEY, LUCKILY I DID NOT HAVE A HEART ATTACK OR A CAR ACCIDENT.
AND THEN MY HUSBAND, WHO, HE'S A NICE MAN, BUT HIS ATTENTION IS, YOU KNOW, NOT THE BEST FOR THINGS LIKE THIS.
HE WOULD HAVE TO MANAGE THAT THROUGH A SYSTEM HE IS NOT A PART OF.
AND THAT WOULD BE AN UNFAIR ASK.
SO PLEASE, IF WE COULD JUST CLARIFY SOME COMMUNICATIONS AROUND GLITCHES IN THESE SYSTEMS. SO PEOPLE WHO WILL BE IN MY POSITION SOMETIME, DON'T GO THROUGH WHAT I WENT THROUGH, WHICH WAS REALLY TERRIFYING.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS BOS FERONE.
MS. BUCKMAN, I THINK, OH, I THOUGHT YOU WERE BEING I DID.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU CONSIDERING MY REMARKS.
I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON POLICY 1250 AND I ASK YOU, UM, THIS IS PLAIN.
I ASK YOU, WHEN YOU AMENDED THE POLICY FROM TRAINING EMPLOYEES EVERY THREE MONTH OR FOUR MONTH INTO ONCE A YEAR, WHAT IS THE PROOF THAT EVERY THREE MONTH WAS TOO MUCH? AND WHAT IS THE PROOF THAT ONE YEAR IS ADEQUATE? THERE IS NOTHING REALLY FACTUAL ABOUT IT.
IT'S BASIC, BASICALLY JUST INTUITION THAT THIS IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER.
THE SECOND QUESTION I ASK YOU DEARLY TO THINK ABOUT, IF YOU APPROVE THAT POLICY, WHICH PROTECTS ILLEGAL ALIENS AGAINST THE DULY ELECTED FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WILL IT IMPROVE THE OUTCOME OF EDUCATION AND BCPS FOR THE MAJORITY OF STUDENTS, 75% OF STUDENT, MOST STUDENTS WILL IT? I DON'T THINK SO.
I ASK YOU NOT TO APPROVE THAT POLICY UNLESS YOU WERE TOLD TO BY SOMEONE HIGHER AUTHORITY TO DO IT.
BECAUSE IT TEACHES STUDENTS NOT TO RESPECT FEDERAL AGENTS.
BY THE WAY, THIS POLICY IS ANTI ICE.
THE SEA AND ICE IS ABOUT CUSTOMS. SOME OF MY PATIENTS ARE FROM THE CUSTOMS DEPARTMENT AND ACTUALLY CALLED ME UP, SAYS, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THIS? WE ARE DOING OUR JOBS.
FEDERAL ASIANS, WHETHER THEY ARE IMMIGRATION OR CUSTOMS, ARE DOING THEIR JOBS.
LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I KNOW WE ARE IN A PROCESS OF CHOOSING A NEW SUPERINTENDENT.
I ASK YOU TO APPOINT THE ONE BOARD MEMBER THAT ALWAYS THINK ABOUT STUDENTS AND NOTHING ELSE AS AN INTERIM SUPERINTENDENT.
I HAVE BEEN WATCHING THE BOARD FOR SO LONG.
MR. MCMILLION IS NOT ABOUT POLITICS, IT'S ABOUT STUDENTS.
AND THAT WILL ALLOW YOU TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT THE NEXT SUPERINTENDENT IS THE
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RIGHT ONE.OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS, SORRY, I LOST MY PLACE HERE.
AND I THINK I, AND YOU'RE GOING TO TELL ME EXACTLY HOW TO PRONOUNCE YOUR LAST NAME, JI.
I PUT THE HARD G SOUND INSTEAD OF THE SOFT.
DR. ROGERS CHAIR LICHTER ON ESTEEM BOARD MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS CLAIRE GIBA AND I'M A JUNIOR AT GEORGE WASHINGTON CARVER CENTER.
I'M SO HONORED TO INTRODUCE MYSELF AS A STUDENT MEMBER OF THE BOARD ELECT FOR THE 2026 THROUGH 2027 TERM.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE BOARD FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY AND BALTIMORE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOL STUDENTS FOR ENTRUSTING ME WITH THIS ROLE.
THE CAMPAIGN SEASON ALLOWED ME TO MEET SO MANY NEW PEOPLE AND LEARN SO MANY NEW SKILLS.
I'M SO EAGER TO COLLABORATE AND LEARN FROM FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS AND FOLLOW IN THE AMAZING FORESIGHT, ABE'S FOOTSTEPS.
I HOPE TO WORK WITH FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS TO ADDRESS STUDENT CONCERNS AND IMPROVE THE STUDENT EXPERIENCE.
I HOPE AFTER MY TERM SCHOOL WILL BE A MORE POSITIVE ENVIRONMENT WHERE STUDENTS VIEW SCHOOL AS SOMETHING THEY NOT JUST HAVE TO ATTEND, BUT SOMETHING THEY GET TO ATTEND.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND I'M SO EXCITED FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY AND CONGRATULATIONS.
WE, UM, DO HAVE ROOM FOR A WAIT LIST.
SO, UM, MS. SOFF, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK.
I'M GOING TO RAISE AN ISSUE THAT I RAISED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SCHOOL YEAR, AND THAT IS THE ISSUE OF STAYING IN OUR OWN LANE.
WE NEED TO STOP STAYING IN OUR OWN LANE WHEN IT COMES TO SPECIAL EDUCATION AND GENERAL EDUCATION BECAUSE THE TWO OF THEM CANNOT EXIST IN THE SAME SPACE.
IF WE CONTINUE TO DO THAT, WE HAVE SPECIAL EDUCATION STUDENTS IN GENERAL EDUCATION CLASSROOMS THAT IS PART OF IDEA, THAT IS LEAST RESTRICTIVE ENVIRONMENT AT ITS BEST.
AND YET WE CONTINUE TO SAY, I NEED TO STAY IN MY LANE.
I CANNOT TALK ABOUT RETENTION.
I CANNOT TALK ABOUT GRADES IN AN IEP MEETING.
YET WHEN I RAISE AN ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED ON AN IEP OR A PLACEMENT, THE GRADES ARE BEAUTIFUL.
WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT? ON THE ONE HAND, I CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT'S GENERAL EDUCATION.
ON THE OTHER HAND, THAT'S HOW YOU MAKE A DECISION.
THERE IS SOMETHING RADICALLY WRONG WITH THAT ATTITUDE AND WE HAVE TO FIX IT.
BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER WITH SAYING SPECIAL EDUCATION OR GENERAL EDUCATION IN GENERAL ARE PRIORITIES IN THIS DISTRICT.
WE ARE HURTING STUDENTS BY SAYING THAT STUDENT IS NORMAL.
THEY HAVE AN IEP, THEY HAVE A DISABILITY THAT ALREADY CHANGES THE EQUATION.
LET'S START CROSSING THAT AISLE.
I'VE BEEN DOING THAT A LOT THIS SCHOOL YEAR.
I'VE BEEN DOING THAT A LOT IN PREVIOUS SCHOOL YEARS.
I'VE BEEN DOING THAT FOR 35 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN SPECIAL ED.
I COMMUNICATE WITH PEOPLE IN GEN ED ON A DAILY BASIS BECAUSE I HAVE TO AND BECAUSE IT'S GOOD TEACHING AND IT'S GOOD COLLABORATION.
SO LET'S START PREACHING THAT IN OUR CLASSROOM AND HAVING THAT THE BASIS OF OUR DECISIONS.
NEXT IS PUBLIC COMMENT ON BOARD POLICY 37 20 BEHAVIOR THREAT ASSESSMENT.
AND OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS MARIETTA ENGLISH,
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I THINK.OUR NEXT SPEAKER, UM, I'M SORRY, MS. S HOF, BUT YOU ARE THE NEXT SPEAKER FOR BEHAVIOR THREAT ASSESSMENT.
AGAIN, GOING ALONG WITH WHAT I JUST SAID, I HAVE A NUMBER OF STUDENTS WHO HAVE BEHAVIORAL CONCERNS, BUT THEIR BEHAVIORAL CONCERNS ARE NOT GETTING ADDRESSED BECAUSE THEY'RE REFERRED TO AS NORMAL.
I DON'T SEE IT, THEREFORE, CAN'T POSSIBLY HAVE IT.
CERTAIN DISABILITIES DO LEND THEMSELVES TO THREAT ASSESSMENT AND SAFETY.
IT IS NECESSARY FOR US TO RECOGNIZE THAT STUDENTS WITH EMOTIONAL CONCERNS DO NEED THREAT ASSESSMENTS.
SOMETIMES STUDENTS WITH EMOTIONAL CONCERNS WHO ELOPE NEED TO BE SOMETIMES IN A MORE RESTRICTIVE ENVIRONMENT WITH LESS STIMULATION BECAUSE ALL OF A SUDDEN THAT MAKES THEM A THREAT.
WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT SAFETY THREAT ASSESSMENT, BE BEHAVIOR INTERVENTION PLANS.
I'M GONNA PULL OUT AN ALPHABET SOUP PIECE FROM MY TRAINING.
WE HAVE TO THINK VERY CLEARLY ABOUT EVERY SINGLE DISABILITY THAT A CHILD HAS ON THAT IEP AND MAKE SURE THAT ALL THOSE DISABILITIES ARE IN THE IEP SO THAT WE CAN DO A PROPER THREAT ASSESSMENT.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER ON POLICY 37 20 IS B FERONE.
POLICY 37 20, LINE 23 THROUGH 26 TALKS ABOUT SUPPORTING THE STUDENT IMPACTED BY A THREAT.
I RECOMMEND THAT YOU WOULD SAY SOMETHING LIKE STUDENT TEACHERS, VISITORS, UM, PUBLIC SPEAKERS LIKE US THAT COME TO YOU.
THAT SAME CONCERN ALSO IN LINE 28.
UM, IN LINE 30, UH, IT USES THE PHYSICAL HARM TO SOMEONE OR SCHOOL PROP PROPERTY.
I SUGGEST THAT THE TERM SOMEONE IS TOO VAGUE.
I THINK IT SHOULD BE IDENTIFIED SOMEHOW BETTER.
LINE 36 TALKS ABOUT DANGEROUS OR VIOLENT SITUATION.
VIOLENT MEAN, DANGEROUS IS JUST TWO WORDS MEAN THE SAME THING.
I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD BE REPETITIVE IN THAT MANNER.
IN THE SECOND PAGE, LINE NUMBER SIX, TALKING ABOUT BEHAVIOR WHO MAY POSE THREAT TO SAFETY.
I THINK THIS IS VERY RUBBERY TERM AND I REALLY ASK YOU TO SERIOUSLY CONSIDER IT.
UH, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, I HAVE BEEN EJECTED FROM THE BOARD TWICE, UH, ONE TIME FOR STANDING UP TO TAKE A PICTURE OF MR. MCMILLION.
SO WHAT IS THE CRITERIA? YOU KNOW, IF WE KEEP IT VAGUE LIKE THIS, THAT WOULD ALLOW SOME PERSONS TO ABUSE IT AGAINST THE CIVIL RIGHTS OF TAXPAYERS.
THEN IN THE SECOND PAGE, LINE 25 TALKS ABOUT ANY PERSON WHO EXHIBITS THREATENING.
AGAIN, ANY PERSON IS VAGUE AND CAN BE ABUSED.
LINE NUMBER 30, NOTHING IN THIS POLICY SHALL PRECLUDE SCHOOL SYSTEM PERSONNEL FROM ACTING IMMEDIATELY TO ADDRESS IMMINENT DANGER.
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POWER AS WAS APPLIED ON ME, WHAT DO YOU DO? THERE IS NO PROCESS TO COMPLAIN.AS MY PRACTICAL EXAMPLE, WHEN I COMPLAINED, NOTHING REALLY HAPPENED ABOUT THAT.
I THINK THIS, THIS PART WOULD BE TOO DANGEROUS TO KEEP IT THE SAME WAY.
AND THAT IS MY COMMENT ABOUT THIS POLICY.
WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO STAY OR, YES, YOU MAY STAY FOR POLICY 4 0 0 8 BOARD DATA GOVERNANCE POLICY 4 0 0 8 IS ABOUT DATA.
UM, LINE NUMBER EIGHT TALKS ABOUT THE OBVIOUS THAT THE DATA ARE THE PROPERTY OF THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
OF COURSE, IT IS THE PROPERTY JUST LIKE THIS CHAIR.
UM, THEN LINE NUMBER 11 TALKS ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE DATA.
BUT THAT'S REALLY A VAGUE TERM.
YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES IT MEAN? QUALITY OF DATA? UM, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE IDENTIFIED BETTER.
LINE NUMBER 15 TALKS ABOUT SUPPORT, EQUITABLE ACCESS TO ACCURATE AND TIMELY DATA.
NOW, I AM, I USED TO BE A PARENT, NOT ANYMORE, BUT I AM A TAXPAYER.
I AM NOT LESS WORTHY OF KNOWING THE INFORMATION, THE DATA, WHENEVER I ASK FOR SOMETHING, I DON'T GET AN ANSWER.
SO MANY TIMES, UM, I DIDN'T GET ANY ANSWER.
I ASKED ABOUT METHODS OF CALCULATING THE PROGRESS THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT HAS SHOWN US MULTIPLE TIMES, AND I HAVEN'T REALLY GOTTEN ANY ANSWER.
THEN LINE NUMBER 20, LINE NUMBER 20, 33, 34 TALKS ABOUT DATA INTEGRITY, DATA INTEGRITY, WHICH IS REALLY A BROAD TERM.
IF YOU WANT TO HAVE DATA INTEGRITY, THEN YOU NEED TO ALLOW A ROBUST DISCUSSION.
AND I NOTICED THAT BOARD MEMBERS ARE LIMITED IN MINUTES TO THE TIME THEY USE TO ASK QUESTIONS OR MAKE COMMENTS.
EXAMPLE OF THAT IN REAL LIFE, THE BUDGET, THE BUDGET, BASICALLY THE DISCUSSION WAS REALLY BRIEF, RUSHED, MOVE FORWARD, APPROVE IT, AND LATER ON, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T REALLY A GOOD BUDGET.
SO IN ORDER TO HAVE DATA INTEGRITY, THE BOARD NEEDS TO BE FOCUSED ON ALLOWING ROBUST DISCUSSION IN THE BOARD AND NOT BE THE WAY YOU ARE RIGHT NOW, WHERE YOU ARE LIMITING BOARD MEMBERS FROM SPEAKING UP.
AND ANOTHER REAL EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, MR. DAM ROMANOWSKI WAS, UM, UH, ILL TREATED BECAUSE SHE WAS ASKING TOO MANY QUESTIONS, ET CETERA.
AND THAT HAS BEEN TURNED DOWN BY THE MARYLAND BOARD OF EDUCATION.
SO I ASK YOU TO THINK ABOUT THAT AND HOPEFULLY YOU WILL THANK YOU.
FAR YOU CAN COMMENT ON POLICY 62 0 2, TECHNOLOGY ACCEPTABLE USE POLICY FOR STUDENTS.
TECHNOLOGY IS MY LOVE MATTER FOR ALL THE YEARS.
UM, LINE NUMBER 16 TALKS ABOUT CURRICULUM ACCESS BY STUDENTS, WHICH MEANS PROBABLY PARENTS WILL HAVE THAT ACCESS TOO, RIGHT? SO IF THE STUDENT HAS WHATEVER PASSWORDS, YOU KNOW, THE PARENTS WOULD BE AWARE OF IT.
BUT PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF, NO MATTER HOW MUCH I ASK FOR ACCESS FOR THE CURRICULUM, I GET IGNORED.
AND SINCE DAY ONE, I CAME TO BALTIMORE 52 YEARS AGO, I HAVE BEEN PAYING TAXES TO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AND I DON'T GET ANSWERS.
SO WHEN I SEE THIS THING I SAY, ALL TAXPAYERS MUST HAVE ACCESS TO THE CURRICULUM OR ANY OTHER DATA THAT THE SYSTEM HAS.
IF YOU HAVE A TECHNOLOGY, UH, OF SOME SORT,
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IT NEEDS TO BE AVAILABLE FOR TAX PAYERS.LINE NUMBER 32 TALKS ABOUT RESPONSIBILITY OF STUDENTS.
BUT YOU CANNOT REALLY HOLD A STUDENT THAT IS NINE YEARS OLD, 12 YEARS OLD, WITH HORMONES TO BE RESPONSIBLE.
I RECOMMEND FOR YOU TO ADD PARENTS, GUARDIANS, PARENTS NEEDS TO BE CO-RESPONSIBLE IN THAT BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONES WHO ARE AWARE AND WHO ARE WATCHING WHAT THE STUDENTS ARE DOING.
AND THE SAME THING FOR LINE NUMBER 36.
I THINK PARENTS AND GUARDIANS SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER FOR POLICY 62 0 2, TECHNOLOGY, ACCEPTABLE USE POLICY FOR STUDENTS IS SHARON SOFF.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, UM, ACCEPTABLE USE, WE HAVE TO MODEL IT AND WE HAVE TO ENFORCE IT.
IF IT'S ON AN IEP THAT A STUDENT DOESN'T GET TO BE ON THEIR COMPUTER FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME OR THAT'S IT, IT IS A REWARD AS OPPOSED TO, UM, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO USE IT WHENEVER THEY WANT.
WE NEED TO PRACTICE WHAT WE PREACH.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THERE IS A BALANCE BECAUSE THERE ARE STUDENTS WHO ARE GOING TO NEED TO USE A COMPUTER TO WRITE, TO READ.
THE ONLY WAY THAT STUDENTS COMMUNICATE WITH THEIR TEACHERS.
AND SOMETIMES THE ONLY WAY THAT TEACHERS COMMUNICATE WITH PARENTS, IF THEY COMMUNICATE WITH PARENTS, OH, IT'S ON SCHOOLOGY.
SCHOOLOGY IS A WONDERFUL TOOL.
WELL, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A POLICY, IT HAS TO INCLUDE STUDENTS, PARENTS, TEACHERS, ADMINISTRATION.
I SHOULD NOT WALK INTO A SCHOOL BUILDING AND SEE AND KNOW THAT MY STUDENT IS NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE THEIR PHONE OR THEIR COMPUTER, BUT THE TEACHER'S OVER IN THE CORNER THERE WITH THE CELL PHONE IN THE HAND.
AND THAT'S HAPPENED VERY FREQUENTLY RECENTLY.
WE CAN'T RELY COMPLETELY ON COMPUTERS TO TEACH.
IT'S A TOOL, NOT A REPLACEMENT FOR OUR WONDERFUL TEACHERS, AND WE HAVE TO USE IT CORRECTLY.
THERE IS SUCH A THING AS EMAIL.
THERE'S ALSO SUCH A THING AS A TELEPHONE.
MY FAVORITE WORD THIS YEAR IS CRICKETS, BECAUSE I HEAR A LOT OF CRICKETS WHEN I CALL THE OFFICE OF SPECIAL ED.
WE SHOULD USE THEM PROPERLY, AND OUR POLICY SHOULD REFLECT THAT.
[G. SUPERINTENDENT'S REPORT (7:40 - 7:45 p.m.)]
ON THE AGENDA IS THE SUPERINTENDENT'S REPORT.AND FOR THAT, I CALL HIM DR. ROGERS.
THANK YOU CHAIR LICHTER, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I HAVE A VIDEO THAT THE TEAM WILL PLAY.
UM, THIS VIDEO IS, UH, FOCUSED ON OUR STUDENTS, THE 108,000 STUDENTS IN BCPS.
I RECEIVED SOME HELP FROM OUR STUDENT MEMBER OF THE BOARD, FORESIGHT AE, AS WELL AS OUR, UH, MARYLAND ASSOCIATION OF STUDENT COUNCILS IN BALTIMORE.
UH, COUNTY STUDENT COUNCILS MEMBER JORDAN ED.
TEAM BCPS STUDENTS ARE AT THE CENTER OF ALL THAT WE DO.
AS A SYSTEM, BCPS IS DEEPLY COMMITTED TO ENSURING THAT EVERY STUDENT, REGARDLESS OF BACKGROUND OR CIRCUMSTANCE, HAS ACCESS TO THE RESOURCES THEY NEED TO THRIVE.
WITH EVERY DECISION WE MAKE, WE WANT TO ENSURE WE UNLOCK STUDENTS' POTENTIAL AND CREATE PATHWAYS TO SUCCESS.
AND AS WE BUILD AN INNOVATIVE AND COLLABORATIVE LEARNING COMMUNITY WHERE ALL STUDENTS EXCEL AND REACH THEIR HIGHEST POTENTIAL, WE RECOGNIZE AND CELEBRATE THE INCREDIBLE TALENT AND DIVERSITY OF OUR STUDENTS
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WHO MAKE TEAM BCPS.GREAT TEAM BCPS STUDENTS ARE SO SPECIAL BECAUSE THEY TAKE PRIDE IN THEIR COMMUNITY.
THEY PUT IN THE EFFORT TO LEARN ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL IDENTITIES OF THE PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE SURROUNDED BY.
YOUR FRIENDS, FAMILY, MENTORS AND TEARS HAVE SEEN HOW HARD YOU'VE WORKED THIS ENTIRE YEAR, AND WE APPRECIATE YOU TAKE PRIDE IN HOW FAR YOU'VE COME.
TEAM BCPS STUDENTS TRULY REPRESENT A DIVERSE COMMUNITY, WHETHER IT BE DIVERSE IDEAS, DIVERSE CULTURES, EVERY STUDENT HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN FROM ONE ANOTHER AND HEAR DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES EVERY DAY.
STUDENTS ARE PIVOTAL IN MOVING OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM FORWARD.
TEAM BCPS STUDENTS ARE INSPIRING STUDENTS.
YOU ARE THE ABSOLUTE REASON WHY WE EXIST.
WE MADE A COMMITMENT TO YOU, AND I AM SO PROUD THAT WE HAVE WORKED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS TO HONOR THAT COMMITMENT TO EACH AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU.
PLEASE KNOW THAT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU IS IMPORTANT.
WE ARE ALL DEDICATED TO YOUR SUCCESS.
I ABSOLUTELY WISH YOU THE BEST AND I CONGRATULATE YOU ON ALL THE WONDERFUL THINGS THAT YOU HAVE DONE ALREADY AS A STUDENT IN BCPS AND ALL OF THE GREAT THINGS THAT YOU WILL CONTINUE TO DO IN THE FUTURE.
[H. CHAIR'S REPORT (7:45 - 7:50 p.m.)]
NEXT IS CHAIR'S REPORT, AND MAY MARKS THE SEASON OF CELEBRATION AT BCPS.IN JUST A FEW WEEKS, OUR SENIORS WILL CROSS THE STAGE TO RECEIVE THEIR HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMAS AND EMBARK ON NEW JOURNEYS.
WHETHER HEADING INTO THE WORKFORCE, STARTING A CAREER, JOINING THE MILITARY, OR ATTENDING COLLEGE, WE EXTEND HEARTFELT CONGRATULATIONS TO EACH OF THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES.
OUR ANNUAL CHAMPIONS FOR CHILDREN'S EVENT KICKED OFF OUR CELEBRATIONS LAST WEEK.
WE APPRECIATE THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNICATIONS FOR PLANNING AND PRODUCING SUCH A WONDERFUL EVENT.
IT'S ALWAYS SPECIAL AND IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE OUR TEACHERS, SCHOOL-BASED LEADERS AND CENTRAL OFFICE LEADERS AND STAFF WHO MAKE A POSITIVE IMPACT EACH DAY.
TODAY, BCPS RECEIVED NATIONAL RECOGNITION FOR ITS COMMITMENT TO MUSIC EDUCATION FOR THE 21ST CONSECUTIVE YEAR SPECIALIST THANKS ARE EXTENDED TO SONIA SIKOWSKI COORDINATOR IN THE BCPS OFFICE OF INTEGRATED ARTS.
FOR HER AND HER STAFF'S DEDICATION TO MUSIC EDUCATION.
THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, NUMEROUS OPPORTUNITIES ARE AVAILABLE TO OBSERVE THE EXCEPTIONAL TALENTS OF OUR STUDENTS, WHETHER PERFORMING VOCALLY OR INSTRUMENTALLY THEIR MUSIC REFLECTS HIGH QUALITY INSTRUCTION, DEDICATED PRACTICE, AND THE SUPPORT OF STUDENTS AND FAMILIES.
I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO ATTEND THESE PERFORMANCES AND EXPERIENCE OUR STUDENTS' ACHIEVEMENTS FIRSTHAND.
CONGRATULATIONS ARE ALSO EXTENDED TO OUR NEWEST UPCOMING STUDENT MEMBER OF THE BOARD.
CLAIRE JI, A JUNIOR AT GEORGE WASHINGTON CARVER CENTER FOR THE ARTS AND TECHNOLOGY, WHO HAS BEEN ELECTED BY HER PEERS AS A STUDENT MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF EDUCATION OF BALTIMORE COUNTY FOR THE 20 26 20 27 SCHOOL YEAR, SHE ALREADY POSSESSES AN IMPRESSIVE ACADEMIC RECORD, HAVING SERVED IN SEVERAL NATIONAL HONOR SOCIETIES.
SHE'S ALSO A COMMITTED DANCER AND CURRENTLY TEACHES WITHIN HER DANCE COMPANY.
THE BOARD OF ED LOOKS FORWARD TO, TO YOUR SERVICE AND YOUR REPRESENTATION OF OUR 110,000 STUDENTS.
ALSO, THE SUPERINTENDENT'S SEARCH PROCESS IS TAKING PLACE.
AT THE LAST BOARD OF ED MEETING, WE APPROVED THE CONTRACT BRAN ASSOCIATES AS THE SEARCH FIRM TO GUIDE THE PROCESS.
WE ARE NOW WORKING WITH OUR SEARCH CONSULTANT.
OUR WEBSITE WILL BE UPDATED SHORTLY TO REFLECT THE PROCESS.
[I. STUDENT BOARD MEMBER'S REPORT (7:50 - 7:55 p.m.)]
THE AGENDA IS OUR CURRENT STUDENT MEMBER OF THE BOARD ON MISS AMI.GOOD EVENING CHAIR LICHTER, SUPERINTENDENT ROGERS MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, STAFF FAMILIES, AND THE BCPS COMMUNITY.
OVER THE PAST FEW WEEKS, I'VE CONTINUED WORKING CLOSELY WITH BALTIMORE COUNTY STUDENT COUNCILS.
AS WE BEGIN TO CLOSE OUT THE SCHOOL YEAR AND TRANSITION INTO NEW LEADERSHIP.
WE RECENTLY HELD OUR FINAL BCSC EXECUTIVE BOARD MEETING, MARKING THE CONCLUSION OF THE, OF THE YEAR.
IT WAS A MOMENT TO REFLECT ON EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED, ACCOMPLISHED THIS YEAR, FROM STUDENT LED INITIATIVES TO MEANINGFUL CONVERSATIONS THAT HAVE SHAPED OUR SCHOOLS.
I'M ESPECIALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO OUR UPCOMING TRANSITION WHERE WE WILL OFFICIALLY SWEAR IN OUR NEW OFFICERS AND TAKE TIME TO RECOGNIZE AND CELEBRATE OUR SENIORS WHO HAVE DEDICATED SO MUCH TIME TO STUDENT LEADERSHIP ACROSS THE COUNTY.
AT THE STATE LEVEL, THE MARYLAND ASSOCIATION OF STUDENT COUNCILS WILL BE HOSTING ITS MAY EXECUTIVE BOARD MEETING ON MAY 16TH AT OUR VERY OWN EASTERN TECH HIGH SCHOOL.
DURING THIS MEETING, MASC WILL SWEAR IN ITS NEW EXECUTIVE BOARD AND OFFICER TEAM FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR.
I'M ESPECIALLY PROUD TO SHARE THAT BALTIMORE COUNTY'S OWN GOODNESS ALFA HAS BEEN ELECTED AS THE MASC PRESIDENT FOR THE 26TH TO 27 SCHOOL YEAR.
THIS ACHIEVEMENT REFLECTS NOT ONLY INDIVIDUAL EXCELLENCE, BUT ALSO THE STRENGTH OF STUDENT LEADERSHIP THAT CONTINUES TO COME OUT OF BCPS.
I'M ALSO EXCITED TO ANNOUNCE THAT BCPS STUDENTS HAVE ELECTED CLEAR GIBA, A JUNIOR FROM CARVER CENTER AS OUR 46TH STUDENT STUDENT MEMBER OF THE BOARD.
BOTH CANDIDATES DEMONSTRATED STRONG LEADERSHIP
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AND A COMMITMENT TO REPRESENTING THEIR PEERS THROUGHOUT THE CAMPAIGN PROCESS.AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THEM CONTINUE IN THEIR INDIVIDUAL LEADERSHIP JOURNEYS AND TO WATCH ALL THE AMAZING THINGS THAT CLAIRE WILL ACCOMPLISH DURING HER TERM.
AS WE MOVE FORWARD INTO THIS FINAL STRETCH OF THE SCHOOL YEAR.
I WANNA TAKE A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE ALL OF OUR STUDENTS PREPARING FOR AP EXAMS AND FINAL ASSESSMENTS.
THIS IS OFTEN ONE OF THE MOST DEMANDING TIMES OF THE YEAR, AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO STAY FOCUSED WHILE ALSO TAKING CARE OF YOUR WELLBEING.
TRUST IN THE WORK YOU'VE PUT IN, GIVE YOURSELF GRACE AND REMEMBER THAT GROWTH AND EFFORT ARE JUST AS IMPORTANT AS ANY FINAL RESULT.
AND TO OUR SENIORS AS GRADUATION APPROACHES, THIS IS A TIME FILLED WITH BOTH EXCITEMENT AND REFLECTION.
YOU'RE CLOSING AN IMPORTANT CHAPTER IN STEPPING INTO NEW OPPORTUNITIES, WHETHER THAT'S COLLEGE CAREERS OR OTHER PATHS.
TAKE PRIDE IN EVERYTHING YOU'VE ACCOMPLISHED AND THE RESILIENCE YOU'VE SHOWN ALONG THE WAY.
MORE IMPORTANTLY, RECOGNIZE THE IMPACT YOU'VE HAD ON YOUR SCHOOLS AND YOUR COMMUNITIES.
WHILE YOUR TIME IN BCPS IS COMING TO AN END, THE LESSONS, RELATIONSHIPS, AND MEMORIES YOU CARRY FORWARD, FORWARD WILL CONTINUE TO SHAPE YOUR FUTURE.
LASTLY, I WANNA BE VERY CLEAR THAT ANY LANGUAGE REFERRING TO BCPS STUDENTS AS UNHUMAN OR ALIEN IS DEEPLY HARMFUL.
THIS BOARD IS COMMITTED TO CREATING A SAFE, INCLUSIVE, AND RESPECTFUL ENVIRONMENT FOR EVERY STUDENT IN BALTIMORE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
OUR STUDENTS ARE NOT DEFINED BY LABELS MEANT TO DEHUMANIZE THEM.
THEY'RE VALUE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY WHO DESERVE DIGNITY, SUPPORT, AND PROTECTION.
WHILE I RESPECT THE RIGHT TO FREE EXPRESSION THAT IS NOT EXCUSED, RHETORIC THAT TARGETS MARGINALIZES OR HARMS OUR STUDENTS, WE EXPECT ALL MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY TO ENGAGE IN DISCOURSE THAT REFLECTS OUR SHARED RESPONSIBILITY TO UPLIFT AND PROTECT YOUNG PEOPLE.
[J. UNFINISHED BUSINESS - INFRASTRUCTURE (Dr. Grim and Mr. Tantleff) (7:55 - 8:20 p.m.)]
ON THE AGENDA IS UNFINISHED BUSINESS CONSIDERATION OF THE ANNUAL BUDGET APPROPRIATION TRANSFER AND THE SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION.DR. ROGERS, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I THINK WE HAVE A FEW SLIDES FOR YOU THIS EVENING AS THOSE ARE BEING BROUGHT UP.
UH, LAST BOARD MEETING, WE, UH, BROUGHT FORTH FOR YOU A, UH, BUDGET APPROPRIATION TRANSFER.
JUST AS A REMINDER, THIS IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, FUNCTION AND IS REQUESTED EVERY YEAR WHILE THE SUPPLE SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION IS NEEDED, WHEN ADDITIONAL FUNDS ARE REQUIRED TO COMPLETE, UM, THE YEAR.
UM, THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION LAST, UH, TIME ASKING FOR SOME CLARIFICATION ON INSTRUCTIONAL SALARIES AND WAGES.
IN PARTICULAR, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE KELLY SERVICES CONTRACT.
UM, BUT YOU CAN SEE IN ACTIVITY THREE, INSTRUCTIONAL SALARIES AND WAGES.
IT'S, UH, TRUE COMPENSATION PAID DIRECTLY TO PERSONNEL.
IT'S TEACHERS TEACHING ASSISTANTS, UM, TUTORS, READING SPECIALISTS, STIPENDS, PSYCHOLOGISTS.
IT'S REALLY, UH, JUST ABOUT EVERYONE IN, UH, THE CLASSROOM.
THAT'S WHAT FALLS UNDER ACTIVITY THREE.
AND THAT GOT A LOT OF CONVERSATION, UH, AT OUR LAST MEETING.
NEXT SLIDE, UH, ACTIVITY FIVE.
AND THIS IS WHERE THE KELLY SERVICES CONTRACT RESIDES.
IT'S ALL OTHER EXPENDITURES FOR INSTRUCTION THAT ARE NOT INCLUDED.
INSTRUCTIONAL SALARIES AND INSTRUCTIONAL SUPPLIES INCLUDES, UH, MISCELLANEOUS CONTRACTED SERVICES, UM, EQUIPMENT RENTALS, SOFTWARE LICENSE FEES, TECHNOLOGY LEASES, MILEAGE REIMBURSEMENT, AND, AND A HOST OF OTHER THINGS.
UM, SO WE, UH, ATTEMPTED TO DO WHAT THE BOARD HAD REQUESTED OF US LAST MEETING.
AND, UH, IN THE NEXT TWO SLIDES, AND I THINK YOU HAVE ONE SLIDE INSERTED INTO YOUR, UH, INTO YOUR PACKAGES, UH, WE BASICALLY TRIED TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF, UM, COMP OF MONEY FUNDING, THE POST-ADOPTION COMPENSATION INCREASES WITH THE SUPPLEMENTAL.
SO IF YOU RECALL LAST TIME WE HAD SHOWN YOU THAT, UH, ALL THE MONEY THAT WAS TO SUPPORT THE COMPENSATION INCREASES WAS SPREAD AMONGST ALL OF THE, UH, DIFFERENT BARGAINING UNITS.
AND, UH, THERE WAS SOME PUSHBACK ON THAT.
AND THE REQUEST WAS TO TRY TO, UH, CANCEL THEM OUT.
AND, UH, IF THERE WAS POSITIVE MONEY AVAILABLE UNDER THE BAT, USE THAT FOR THE COMPENSATION INCREASES.
AND THEN, UH, WHAT WAS REMAINING WOULD BE SUPPORTED BY THE SUPPLEMENTAL.
SO ON THIS CHART HERE, YOU, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S SMALL UP THERE, BUT I THINK YOU
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ALL HAVE IT.YOU CAN, UH, SEE WHAT THE CHANGE WAS IN EACH CATEGORY.
UM, AND THERE'S SOME COMMENTS, BUT SOME OF THE KEY THINGS, UH, THAT WE DID, AND I THINK I MENTIONED CHANGE THE BACK CATEGORIES TO ABSORB AS MUCH OF THE POST BUDGET ADOPTION.
IMPASSE AGREEMENT COMPENSATION INCREASES AS POSSIBLE, MINIMIZE THE USE OF INSTRUCTIONAL SALARIES, UH, WHEREVER POSSIBLE, AND CHANGE THE SUPPLEMENT TO SUPPORT MINIMUM AMOUNT OF COMPENSATION INCREASES WITH THE RESULT BEING MOST OF THE SUPPLEMENT IS NOW PAYING FOR THE ERP PROJECT AND SPECIAL ED.
BUT ON THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE THE RESULT OF ALL THIS.
UM, SO ON THE TOP YOU CAN SEE, UH, WHAT YOU WERE PRESENTED WITH LAST TIME.
ON THE BOTTOM IS, UH, WHAT YOU HAVE NOW.
UH, AND YOU CAN SEE THE TOTAL DOLLARS ARE THE SAME IN THE BAT, AND THE TOTAL DOLLARS OF THE SUPPLEMENT ARE THE SAME, UH, TOTAL THEY HAD TO BE, BUT WE SHIFTED THE DOLLARS AROUND BETWEEN THE CATEGORIES.
UM, I JUST MENTIONED THESE THINGS, BUT THE BAT IS COVERING AS MUCH AS THE COMPENSATION AS POSSIBLE.
SUPPLEMENT WAS NOT USED FOR THE SALARY ENHANCEMENTS.
BUT THE KEY IS THAT BAT PLUS THE SUPPLEMENTAL ARE EXACTLY THE SAME.
WE JUST SHIFTED, UH, WHICH ACTIVITIES WERE FUNDED BY WHICH.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP CHART AND THE BOTTOM CHART UNDER TOTAL, IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME.
SO THE, THE ACTIVITIES THAT WERE FUNDED BY EACH OF THE DOCUMENTS SHIFTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE BOARD'S, UH, WISHES FROM OUR LAST MEETING.
BUT THE END RESULT IS THE SAME.
THE TOTAL, WHEN YOU ADD UP THE BAT PLUS A SUPPLEMENT FOR EACH ACTIVITY, IT'S THE SAME.
AND THEN THE AGGREGATE ADJUSTED BUDGET, WHICH IS THE ADOPTED BUDGET PLUS A SUPPLEMENT, PLUS THE BAT IS THE SAME.
UM, SO WE THINK WE DID WHAT THE BOARD, UH, HAD REQUESTED OF US.
AND, UH, THAT'S THE LAST SLIDE IN OUR PRESENTATION.
UH, IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, THANK YOU.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ANNUAL BUDGET APPROPRIATION TRANSFER AS PRESENTED? SO MOVE YOUNG.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND ESKI ANY DISCUSSION MR. ROMANOWSKI? UM, SO I NOTICED THAT, UM, WHEN WE, FOR TRANSPORTATION COSTS AS FAR AS, UH, VCPS FIELD TRIP VERSUS PRIVATE BUS OPERATIONS, THAT WE TAKE THE MONEY FROM THE VCPS FIELD TRIPS AND THEN PUT INTO PRIVATE OPERATIONS, BUS OPERATIONS.
WHY IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO DO FOR ACCOUNTING REASONS? WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE REASONING FOR THAT IS, IS YOUR QUESTION? WHY DO WE USE A PRIVATE OPERATOR TO TAKE THE KIDS ON A FIELD TRIP? WELL, IT'S IN THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
I'M JUST WONDERING IS IT'S THAT, IS THAT WHAT IT'S FOR OR, UM, I'M NOT, WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT MS. TOMSKI? UM, OKAY.
UH, BUT FIELD TRIPS IN GENERAL ARE SPLIT BETWEEN CONTRACTORS AND WE USE OUR BUSES WHENEVER POSSIBLE 'CAUSE IT'S LESS EXPENSIVE.
BUT BECAUSE OF COVERING ALL THE ROUTES, UH, OFTEN WE HAVE TO USE CONTRACTORS FOR FIELD TRIPS.
AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE SCHOOLS COLLECT THE FUNDS FOR THE FIELD TRIPS.
UM, THEY ARE THEN TRANSFERRED OVER TO TRANSPORTATION IN THE CONTRACTORS.
SO I ACTUALLY, IT WAS, IT WAS KIND OF, THERE WAS MORE MONEY SPENT IN PRIVATE BUS OPERATIONS THAN THERE WAS TAKEN OUT OF THE VCPS FIELD TRIP FUND.
THAT'S WHAT I'M, ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE BAT OR IS THIS A DIFFERENT, THE BUDGET LINE TRANSFERS THAT YOU GAVE, IT GAVE TO US AND IN REFERENCE FOR THE THIRD QUARTER.
I'M, I MEAN, I'M, OR FOR ALL OF, I'M, I'M NOT LOOKING AT THAT, UH, REPORT RIGHT NOW, BUT I KNOW, BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S IN THIS, SO I JUST WONDER IF WE COULD TALK ABOUT IT SINCE IT WAS PRESENTED AS, AS PART OF THIS AGENDA ITEM.
CAN YOU SAY YOUR, SAY YOUR QUESTION AGAIN PLEASE.
SO WHAT, WHAT EXACTLY WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESPOND TO? I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE, SO A-B-C-P-S FIELD TRIP OF DOLLARS, THEN IT GETS TRANSFERRED OVER TO PRIVATE BUS DOLLARS IS WHAT I'M ASSUMING, CORRECT? YES.
WHEN WE USE A PRIVATE CONTRACTOR.
SO WHY WOULD THE, I'M JUST WONDERING WHERE THE DIFFERENCE COMES THROUGH IN THE, IS THAT PART OF THE ADDITIONAL TRANSPORTATION COSTS THAT YOU NEEDED TO, TO FUND THAT? BECAUSE THERE WAS, THE PRIVATE BUS WAS OVER, LIKE IT DIDN'T E IT DIDN'T EQUAL OUTS WHAT I'M SAYING, IT WAS MORE THAN WHAT THE BCPS FIELD TRIP MONEY WAS, SO I DON'T, WHAT ELSE DOES THE PRIVATE BUS OPERATIONS FUND, LIKE BEFORE? UH, THE MAJORITY OF PLUS PRIVATE BUS OPERAS WHO SPEND MORE THAN IN EXCESS OF $20 MILLION, UH, THEY SUPPORT, UM, A LARGE NUMBER
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OF OUR ROUTES WHERE WE DON'T USE OUR IN-HOUSE, UH, BUS.THAT'S THE MAJORITY OF WHAT OUR CONTRACT BUS COSTS ARE FOR.
OTHER QUESTIONS MS. STALOWSKI? THANK YOU.
UM, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE EXPENDITURE APPROPRIATION, WHICH WAS ON THE, THE BUDGET WEBSITE.
UM, WHEN WE VOTED IN FEBRUARY AND THE MOTION WAS BEING DISCUSSED TO RELIEVE LIBRARY MEDIA SPECIALISTS OF THE TWO PERIOD CONTENT TEACHING DUTIES, THE QUESTION WAS ASKED, YOU KNOW, IF IT, IF THE MOTION PASSES, WHAT WILL HAPPEN? AND, AND THE ANSWER INDICATED THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE FIGURED OUT MONEY WOULD HAVE TO BE MS. LUKI.
IS THIS ABOUT THE BAD? IS THIS ABOUT THE BAD OR THE SUPPLEMENT? UM, WELL, YES, BECAUSE IT IS ABOUT THE, THE ASK FOR THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING.
WE'RE ONLY DEALING WITH FY 26 RIGHT HERE.
FURTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE THAT OR SUPPLEMENTAL PROPOSALS, MS. ONG? THANK YOU.
UM, SO IN THE DOCUMENTATION THAT WE HAVE, IT TALKS ABOUT THE 5.5, UH, MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE CONTINUED IMPLEMENTATION OF THE ERP SYSTEM.
SO LOOKING THROUGH THE DOCUMENT THAT WAS LINKED, I SEE WHERE IN THE BUDGET FOR SOFTWARE LICENSE FEES, UM, WHILE FEES WERE REDUCED BY ALMOST 200,000, THEN IT GETS TRANSFERRED BECAUSE WE HIRED A CONTRACTED EMPLOYEE.
OR ANOTHER INSTANCE, WE HAVE A REDUCTION OF 200 K FOR FEES.
BUT THEN, UM, THERE'S COST ASSOCIATED WITH A PHISHING EMAIL AND IT'S, UM, IT'S A COST OF 200,000, AND THAT'S FROM DECEMBER, 2025 TO NOW.
SO WHAT DOES THAT COST OF 200,004? UM, I, I DON'T, I APOLOGIZE.
I DON'T HAVE THAT REPORT IN FRONT OF ME AND I DON'T, UM, YOU KNOW, I WOULD HAVE TO TO LOOK AT THAT, BUT THOSE ARE TRANSACTIONS THAT OFFICES OR SCHOOLS SUBMITTED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
THEY WERE ALL BUDGET NEUTRAL, BUT THEY JUST MOVED THEIR DOLLARS TO WHERE THEY NEEDED TO SPEND THEM.
SO, UH, EVERY TRANSACTION ON THAT REPORT, AND THERE'S MANY, MANY TRANSACTIONS ON THAT REPORT, UM, THAT GO ON THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
UM, THOSE OFFICES HAD, UH, JUST AN EXPENDITURE THAT NEEDED TO BE SPENT IN A DIFFERENT PLACE.
THEY DIDN'T SPEND ANY ADDITIONAL MONEY, BUT THEY JUST HAD TO, UH, MOVE THEIR MONEY SO THEY COULD PROPERLY SPEND IT, UH, IN THE PLACE THAT THEY DETERMINED ONCE THE YEAR HAD STARTED, WHICH, UH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IS SIGNIFICANTLY, UH, PASSED WHEN THEY PUT THEIR BUDGETS TOGETHER, WHICH IS IN OCTOBER, NOVEMBER.
AND, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF NEEDS CHANGE AS THE YEARS GO, AS THE YEAR GOES ON.
UM, AND, AND THAT MAKES SENSE.
BUT YEAH, I JUST, I GUESS FOR THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, BECAUSE IT SPECIFICALLY SPEAKS TO A PHISHING EMAIL, SO BETWEEN DECEMBER, 2025 AND NOW, WHICH IS MAY 5TH, BUT I THINK YOUR REPORT ENDS EARLIER, THERE'S $200,000 BEING SPENT ON THAT.
SO THAT'S A, A LARGE SUM OF MONEY.
I WAS JUST INQUIRING ABOUT THAT.
UM, MS. MS. ONG, IF I MAY HAVE ASKED, UH, MR. KOS TO COME FORWARD SO HE CAN PROVIDE SOME CLARIFICATION ON PHISHING EMAIL.
MS. FONG, THAT IS, UH, FOR, NOT A PHISHING EMAIL, BUT A SERVICE WE USED TO SEND OUT, UM, TEST EMAILS TO STAFF TO DO PHISHING TRAINING.
SO THERE WAS NO INCIDENT THAT INVOLVED A PHISHING EMAIL.
IT WAS MORE OF A, A SOFTWARE, UH, THAT WE PROCURED IN ORDER TO DO COMPLIANCE TRAINING WITH OUR STAFF AS WELL AS, UH, PHISHING TESTS.
SO YOU GET A, AN EMAIL FROM US THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CLICK ON THE LINK AND IT TAKES YOU TO A TRAINING VIDEO ON MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE CLICKED THAT LINK TO KEEP US SAFE.
UM, AND SO WE HAD MONEY THAT WAS IN, UH, A NON-SOFTWARE AREA AND WE NEEDED TO MOVE IT OVER TO OUR SECURITY TEAM IN THEIR SOFTWARE AREA TO PROCURE THAT SERVICE.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
'CAUSE IT SOUNDED LIKE IT WAS JUST AN EMAIL AND THERE WAS THIS ISSUE VERSUS RIGHT, THE TRAINING AND, OKAY.
THIS WAS, UH, THIS WAS THE DESIGNED TO, UH, PREVENT US FROM HAVING, UH, UH, MALICIOUS EMAILS.
IN FACT, OUR, UH, IMPACT OUR STAFF.
AND THEN, UM, SO IN OUR MOST RECENT BUDGET WITH ERP, WE HAD A NEWLY CREATED DEPARTMENT THAT'S COSTING US $4 MILLION.
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UM, FOR ERP? IS THIS ON TOP OF WHAT WE'VE ALREADY BUDGET OR THIS IS CONSIDERED TO BE PART OF THE MONEY WE ALREADY ALLOTTED FOR ERP? UM, THE 5.5 MILLION IN THIS CASE WAS IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE HAD BUDGETED.UM, THERE WAS, UH, A COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS WHERE, UH, THE, OUR VENDOR CHANGED AND WAS ACQUIRED BY IBM.
AND SO THOSE PURCHASE ORDERS HAD TO BE CLOSED OUT.
SO IT WAS BUDGETED THE PRIOR YEAR AND MOVED TO THIS YEAR.
UH, AND THE REST OF IT WAS REALLY, UM, JUST ADDRESSING, UH, DIFFERENT NEEDS THAT AROSE AS WE WENT ON AND LEARNED MORE ABOUT THE PROJECT.
THERE'S, UH, DIFFERENT SUPPORTS.
WE NEEDED DIFFERENT PERSONNEL WE NEEDED TO HIRE.
SO IT WAS ABOUT HALF THE DOLLARS THAT NEEDED TO MOVE FROM LAST YEAR JUST THROUGH, UH, THE NAME CHANGE OF THE VENDOR.
AND THEN THE REST WAS JUST NEEDS THAT AROSE ONCE THE YEAR BEGAN.
SO WHERE ARE WE WITH LIKE, WHAT'S BEEN BUDGETED VERSUS THE ACTUAL AMOUNT THEN PER ERP? AND I GUESS THAT'S SOMETHING YOU GUYS CAN GET BACK TO IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION, BUT I DO THINK WE NEED AN UPDATE ON, ON THAT BECAUSE WE KEEP GETTING INFORMATION ABOUT DIDN'T ACCOUNT FOR THIS AND WE HAVE TO ADJUST.
SO WE'D JUST LIKE TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE WE ARE WITH THE ERP, WITH HOW MUCH WE ARE ACTUALLY SPENDING.
OTHER QUESTIONS MS. HEN? THANK YOU.
AND THANK YOU MR. ONG FOR YOUR QUESTIONS ON ERP.
I DO HAVE ONE FOLLOW UP TO THAT.
AND, AND PERHAPS MR. TANT, IF YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION IN FRONT OF YOU FROM LAST YEAR'S BAT AND SUPPLEMENT THAT THERE WAS AN, UM, UNDERSPENDING ON ERP THAT WOULD REFERENCE WHAT YOU HAD MENTIONED FROM THE PRIOR YEARS INVOICING AND THE VENDOR CHANGE THAT YOU HAD JUST MENTIONED THAT WOULD EXPLAIN THE OVER, UM, BUDGET THAT WE'RE SEEING NOW REQUIRING THE SUPPLEMENTAL OF 5.5 MILLION.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE, THAT IS REFLECTED IN LAST YEAR'S, UM, BAT THAT THERE WAS A TRANSFER OF, OF FUNDS THAT HAD BEEN BUDGETED FOR ERP FOR LAST YEAR THAT WERE TRANSFERRED TO ANOTHER BUDGET CATEGORY? UM, I, I GUESS I WOULD SAY IT TWO WAYS.
SO LAST YEAR WE DID NEED TO SUPPLEMENT FOR THE ERP PROJECT BECAUSE IT WASN'T IN THE BUDGET AT ALL.
SO DURING THE SUPPLEMENT LAST YEAR AND THE YEAR BEFORE THAT THE BOARD APPROVED, UH, FUNDING FOR THE ERP PROJECT.
SO, UH, I GUESS IF WE HAD KNOWN ABOUT THE NAME CHANGE AT THE TIME THAT IT WAS OCCURRING, WE COULD HAVE, UM, REQUESTED $2 MILLION LESS LAST YEAR NEEDING THE 2 MILLION MORE THIS YEAR.
IN THE END, IT'S THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY AND ANYTHING UNSPENT THAT 2 MILLION DROPPED A FUND BALANCE ONCE THE P PURCHASE ORDER CLOSED.
I, I DON'T SEEM TO RECALL THAT WE HAD NO BUDGETED AMOUNT FOR ERP LAST YEAR IS IT WAS FUNDED THROUGH THIS SUPPLEMENTAL, UH, AND I'D REMIND THE BOARD, WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY NEED THE SUPPLEMENTAL FOR THE ERP PROJECT THIS YEAR.
WE WERE ABLE TO ABSORB IT WITHIN THE ACTIVITY.
YOU'RE SEEING IT NOW FUNDED BY THE SUPPLEMENTAL BECAUSE OF HOW THE BOARD REQUESTED US TO MOVE THE DOLLARS BETWEEN THE BAT AND THE SUPPLEMENTAL.
THE SUPPLEMENTAL WAS NEEDED TO FUND, UM, THE POST-ADOPTION COMPENSATION CHANGES, THINGS THAT GOT AGREED TO AFTER IMPASSE.
YOU HAD ASKED US TO MOVE THE DOLLARS AROUND TO LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT WE WOULD'VE BEEN ABLE TO ABSORB THE INCREASED COSTS FROM THE ERP PROJECT.
UM, AND IT WAS IN THE BAT LAST TIME INSTEAD OF THE SUPPLEMENTAL.
BUT I, I JUST POINT OUT WE ARE IN, WE DIDN'T NEED TO REQUEST EXTRA MONEY FOR THE ERP PROJECT THIS YEAR.
WE'RE ABLE TO ABSORB IT WITHIN OUR EXISTING BUDGET, BUT MORE THAN THE EXIST, THE ORIGINAL ERP BUDGET, WHICH WAS $7 MILLION THIS YEAR.
THEN, THEN I WOULD JOIN IN MS. FONG'S REQUEST FOR A FULL ACCOUNTING OF ERP EXPENDITURES, UM, TO DATE.
I, I THINK WE NEED A CLEAR PICTURE OF, OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
AND I KNOW THAT, UM, INTERNAL AUDIT, WHEN THEY PRESENT THEIR WORK PLAN TONIGHT, THAT MAY BE A QUESTION I ASK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S PART OF THEIR WORK PLAN FOR THE COMING YEAR.
WE ARE VOTING ON THE BAT 'CAUSE WE'RE SEPARATING THESE TWO.
SO WE'RE VOTING ON MOTION TO APPROVE THE ANNUAL BAT APPROPRIATION TRANSFER AS PRESENTED.
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YES.MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ANNUAL SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET APPROPRIATION AS PRESENTED? SO MOVE DOKI.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND FROM PONG.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET APPROPRIATION AS PRESENTED? MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.
SO WITH THIS PASSING, ARE WE STILL MEETING OUR, FOR IT BEING SUBMITTED TO THE COUNTY? YES.
WE ARE MEETING THE TIMELINE, CORRECT.
THEY, THEY LET THEM KNOW WE WERE GONNA VOTE TONIGHT.
[K. UNFINISHED BUSINESS - BOARD POLICY (Ms. Pumphrey) (8:20 - 8:30 p.m)]
THE AGENDA IS UNFINISHED BUSINESS BOARD POLICIES.THIS IS THE SECOND READER FOR THIS POLICY, AND FOR THAT I CALL MS. CHRISTINA PUMPHREY, CHAIR OF THE POLICY REVIEW COMMITTEE.
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, THE POLICY REVIEW COMMITTEE ASK THAT THE BOARD ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION TO ADOPT BOARD POLICY 1250 IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT ACCESS TO SCHOOL BUILDINGS.
THIS POLICY IS PRESENTED TO YOU ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA AS EXHIBIT K.
THANK YOU, MS. HUMPHREY, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE BOARD'S POLICY REVIEW COMMITTEE TO ADOPT BOARD POLICY 1250.
SINCE THE RECOMMENDATION COMES FROM THE COMMITTEE, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION MS. POEY? JUST HAVE A COMMENT.
UM, I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO STATE THIS ANY BETTER THAN OUR STUDENT OR THE ME MEMBER OF THE BOARD ALREADY STATED, BUT, UM, I JUST FEEL INCLINED TO STATE THAT REFERRING TO ANY OF OUR CHILDREN AS ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS IS APPALLING.
UM, AND IT'S AT THE EXACT REASON WHY WE NEED A POLICY LIKE THIS SO THAT OUR STUDENTS FEEL WELCOME.
ALL OF OUR STUDENTS FEEL WELCOME IN OUR SCHOOL.
HOW WE DECIDE AS ADULTS TO ADDRESS IMMIGRATION OUTSIDE OF OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM IS A DIFFERENT ISSUE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CHILDREN HERE AND I'M JUST APPALLED BY THOSE COMMENTS, AND I FELT THE NEED TO STATE THAT DURING THIS PRESENTATION OF THE POLICY.
THANK YOU MS. HUMPHREY FOR YOUR STATEMENT.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION MS. DOKI? I, I JUST WANTED TO, THIS IS NOT INTERFERING WITH ACTUAL FEDERAL LAWS OR POLICY ON THE BOOKS.
THE LEGAL TEAM REVIEWED OUR LEGAL OFFICE, REVIEWED THIS TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS NO INTER, AS A MATTER OF FACT, IT'S MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE IN LINE WITH FEDERAL LAW AS FAR AS NEEDING TO HAVE A SIGNED JUDICIAL WARRANT TO ACCESS A SCHOOL BUILDING AND NOT JUST AN EXECUTIVE WARRANT.
THAT IS, THAT IS, UM, FEDERAL LAW AND THIS IS PART OF THE TRAINING THAT OUR STAFF MEMBERS, ESPECIALLY FRONT OFFICE STAFF, WILL HAVE WHEN, UM, AGENTS APPROACH THE SCHOOL.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE PLEASE.
THANK YOU EVERYONE WHO WORKED ON THAT.
UM, AND THANK YOU MS. PUMPHREY, FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP, UM, AS THE CHAIR OF THAT COMMITTEE.
[L. NEW BUSINESS - ACTION TAKEN IN CLOSED SESSION (Board Counsel) (8:30 - 8:35 p.m.)]
ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ACTION TAKEN IN CLOSED SESSION.DURING THE ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTION SESSION, THE BOARD VOTED AND APPROVED TO ESTABLISH A STANDING BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMITTEE.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO AFFIRM THE ACTION TAKEN IN ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTION SESSION? SO MOVED.
MAY I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND SULASKI.
MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE PLEASE.
[M. NEW BUSINESS - BOARD POLICY (Ms. Pumphrey) (8:35 - 8:45 p.m.)]
ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS NEW BUSINESS BOARD POLICIES.THIS IS THE FIRST READER FOR THESE POLICIES AND FOR THAT I CALL AGAIN ON MS. CHRISTINA PUMPHREY.
THE POLICY REVIEW COMMITTEE ASKS THAT THE BOARD ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE FOLLOWING BOARD POLICIES, BOARD POLICY 37 20, BEHAVIOR THREAT ASSESSMENT BOARD POLICY 44,008 BOARD DATA GOVERNANCE AND BOARD POLICY 62 0 2 TECHNOLOGY ACCEPTABLE USE POLICY FOR STUDENTS.
THESE POLICIES ARE PRESENTED TO YOU ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA AS EXHIBITS M1 THROUGH M THREE.
BOARD MEMBERS, ARE THERE ANY SEPARATIONS BEING REQUESTED? MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE BOARD POLICY REVIEW COMMITTEE FOR BOARD POLICIES?
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37 20 4,008 AND 62 0 2.SINCE THE RECOMMENDATION COMES FROM THE COMMITTEE, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, MS. DOKI? I'M SORRY IF THIS IS OFF TOPIC, BUT IT HAS TO DO WITH DIGITAL CONTENT AND, UM, WHAT WE'RE DOING AS FAR AS, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THE ASSESSMENTS THAT WE'RE GIVING OUR STUDENTS, WHAT KIND OF ACCESS DO WE GIVE PARENTS TO BE ABLE TO, TO KNOW WHAT LIKE THOSE TESTS ARE LIKE OR BEING ABLE TO GO OVER THE SCORES AND, UM, 'CAUSE WHEN YOU GET IT BACK, YOU JUST GET THE GRADE, BUT WE DON'T ACTUALLY GET TO SEE WHAT OUR STUDENTS ARE, ARE WRITING AND PUTTING IN THERE.
IT GETS SAVED INTO A CLASSIFIED OR PROTECTED DOCUMENT.
HOW, HOW CAN WE, BUT MS. DAM, IS THIS ABOUT ONE OF THE THREE PO POLICIES? WELL, IT'S ABOUT DIG, LIKE THE, THE WAY WE'RE USING OUR DIGITAL RESOURCES AS FAR DI UH, DIGITAL CURRICULUMS AND TECHNOLOGY.
SO YOU'RE QUESTION THAT THE POLICY REVIEW COMMITTEE TAKE A LOOK AT POLICIES RELEVANT? WELL, I DON'T, IS IT, IS THAT IN THERE AS FAR AS LIKE, IS THAT PART OF OUR POLICY TO PROTECT THAT FROM, IT'S NOT PART OF ONE OF THESE THREE POLICIES THAT WE'RE VOTING ON TONIGHT.
ARE WE, HOW ARE, HOW ARE WE MAKING THIS AVAILABLE TO, HOW CAN WE MAKE THIS AVAILABLE TO STUDENTS WITH THIS POLICY, I GUESS? OR WHY AREN'T WE PUTTING THAT INTO POLICY? WHY, WHY ARE THOSE ASSESSMENTS PROTECTED AND NOT GIVEN TO PARENTS? MS. HUMPHREY, I'M NOT SURE THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS PARTICULAR POLICY.
HOWEVER, IF YOU WANNA SEND ME THAT REQUEST, WE CAN, AS A POLICY REVIEW THAT TO SEE WHAT POLICIES ARE AVAILABLE OR IF WE WANNA DISCUSS WHETHER WE NEED A POLICY ADDRESSING THAT MATTER.
MS. N UM, I AGREE WITH MS. HUMPHREY'S COMMENT AND MS GOING TO COMMENT THAT 4,008 DOESN'T INCLUDE PARENT ACCESS TO DATA, BUT WAS GOING TO MAKE THE SAME RECOMMENDATION THAT A MOTION BE MADE TO ASK THE POLICY REVIEW COMMITTEE TO EXPLORE WHETHER OR NOT A POLICY, UM, SHOULD BE CREATED SPECIFICALLY FOR PARENT ACCESS TO DATA.
I ADD THAT TO MY NOTES AS WELL.
THERE'S A, SO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION? NO, IT'S OKAY.
FOR THE THREE POLICIES, 37 20 4,008 AND 62 0 2, WE HAD A SECOND.
MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE ON APPROVING THOSE THREE P ON ACCEPTING THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THOSE THREE POLICIES.
[N. NEW BUSINESS - OFFICE OF INTERNAL AUDIT WORKPLAN FY2027 (Mr. Young) (8:45 - 8:55 p.m.)]
THE AGENDA IS NEW BUSINESS CONSIDERATION OF THE INTERNAL AUDIT WORK PLAN FOR FISCAL YEAR 2027.AND FOR THAT I CALL MR. YOUNG CHAIR OF THE AUDIT COMMITTEE.
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, THE BOARD'S AUDIT COMMITTEE MET ON TUESDAY, APRIL 14TH, 2026.
THE OFFICE OF INTERNAL AUDIT WORK PLAN FOR FY 2027 IS BEING FORWARDED TO THE FULL BOARD FOR APPROVAL.
THE, THE PLAN PROVIDES A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THE AUDIT AREAS, FOCUS OBJECTIVES, AND PROPOSED TIMELINE.
MS. BARR IS AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE OFFICE OF INTERNAL AUDIT WORK PLAN FOR FISCAL YEAR 2027? SO MOVED FROM PAUL.
SINCE THE RECOMMENDATION COMES FROM THE COMMITTEE, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, MS. DOKI? I JUST WONDERING IF MS. BARR WOULD WANNA COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THE ERP AUDIT PLAN? GOOD EVENING, MS. BARR.
DID YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION, MR. DOKI? CAN YOU JUST, UH, DO AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT, WHAT THAT WILL ENTAIL OR WHAT THE PLAN IS AS FAR AS HOW WE'RE GOING TO YEAH.
BASICALLY WHAT WE DO IS WE WOULD LOOK AT THE CONTROLS DATA MIGRATION, MAKING SURE THAT, UM, THE USERS, UH, HAVE THE APPROPRIATE ACCESS TO THE SYSTEM AND, UM, MAKING SURE THAT THE THIRD PARTY VENDORS HAVE THE AUDITS THAT ARE REQUIRED.
SO THAT'S BASICALLY A VERY HIGH LEVEL, UH, LOOK AT THE IMPLEMENTATION AND THE DATA MIGRATION COMING OVER FROM THE PRIOR SYSTEM INTO THE NEW.
BUT THERE ISN'T ANY PLAN TO GO THROUGH THE COST BALANCE SCENARIO.
LIKE AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, ARE WE GETTING WHAT WE'RE WE'RE PAYING FOR OR BUDGETING FOR, OR IT, IT'S, AS FAR AS WE'VE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH AND SAYING WE NEEDED MORE MONEY HERE, MAYBE WE DIDN'T NEED THAT MONEY.
THEN IS THERE ANY, UM, PLAN TO AUDIT OR LOOK INTO THAT PART THAT WAS NOT PORTION OF IT, THE COST PORTION OF IT.
I'M SORRY, THAT WAS NOT PLANNED FOR FY 27.
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ABOUT ADDING THAT OR IS THAT NOT GOING TO ONCE? ARE WE ONLY THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF AN AUDIT.I MEAN, THERE'S ALWAYS A ROOM AND OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A DISCUSSION.
THAT'S WHY WE DO A RISK-BASED AUDIT PLAN.
BECAUSE IF OTHER TYPES OF RISKS ARE IDENTIFIED OR EMERGING, THEN WE CAN ADJUST WHAT'S, WHAT'S PLANNED.
AND OF COURSE, I WOULD HAVE TO BRING THAT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE, AND THE COMMITTEE WOULD THEN HAVE TO CONSIDER IT AND APPROVE THAT AND MOVE IT FORWARD.
OTHER DISCUSSION, MS. HEN? THANK YOU.
UM, WERE THE RISKS, UH, ANALYZED FOR, UM, THE ERP IN THE AREAS OF FINANCIAL RISKS, UM, RELATED TO EXPENDITURES AND ALSO, UH, RELATED TO PERFORMANCE IN TERMS OF EMPLOYEE IMPACT AND THE PERFORMANCE OF THE SYSTEM WHEN DEVELOPING YOUR WORK PLAN? YES.
SO THE FINANCIAL RISKS, NO, BUT FOR THE SECOND PART OF YOUR QUESTION, YES, AND ACTUALLY WE'RE LOOKING, UH, TWO, THERE ARE TWO PROJECTS, UM, FOR THE FY 27 WORK PLAN RELATED TO PAYROLL AND PAYROLL OPERATIONS.
AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE NOW GETTING DEEPER INTO HOW THE ACTUAL SYSTEM IS WORKING.
AND BECAUSE PAYROLL IS SUCH A HIGH PERCENTAGE IN LARGE PART OF THE BUDGET, WE'RE FOCUSING AND CONCENTRATING ON THERE.
SO IS, WOULD YOU SAY IT, IS IT ACCURATE TO SAY THAT THOSE AUDIT ACTIVITIES WOULD COVER THE SYSTEM PERFORMANCE ITSELF OF ORACLE IN, IN THOSE RELATED TO THE PAYROLL PROCESS AND PAYMENT TO INDIVIDUALS? YEAH, SO IT'S, IT'S OPERATIONS.
IT'S LOOKING AT APPROVAL, THOSE TYPES OF PROCESSES.
SO, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALSO, UM, THE MISCELLANEOUS PAYS, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE, UH, THE, SOME OF THOSE PROCESSES ARE STILL MANUAL, SO IT'S A DIFFERENT LENS OR VIEW, UM, AND DIFFERENT TYPE OF DOCUMENTATION THAT WE'D HAVE TO REVIEW RELATED TO THAT.
SO IT'S, IT, IT'S TWO DIFFERENT PAYROLL AUDITS THAT WE'RE SCHEDULED FOR, UM, IF APPROVED FOR NEXT YEAR.
AND IS IT STRICTLY PAYROLL OR DOES THAT INCLUDE BENEFITS AS WELL? WE DO HAVE A BENEFITS.
UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT BENEFITS AS, AS WELL.
UM, THAT'S ANOTHER PROJECT THAT THAT'S PLANNED AS WELL.
SO LET ME ASK MY MY QUESTION A DIFFERENT WAY.
IF THERE WERE, UM, CONTROL ISSUES OR SYSTEM ISSUES RELATED TO EITHER PAYROLL OR BENEFITS, WOULD THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE PLANNED UNCOVER THOSE TYPES OF ISSUES AS, AS POTENTIAL FINDINGS? UH, IF THEY WERE YES.
AND IT INCLUDES, UH, SO THEIR IT OR TECHNICAL ENOUGH IN NATURE TO UNCOVER ANY TYPES OF PERFORMANCE ISSUES WITH THE SYSTEM ITSELF? YES.
AND WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING ON A PROJECT NOW THAT HAS A COMMITTEE WILL BE GETTING AUDIT RESULTS SOON RELATED TO THAT.
SO I'M, I JUST HAVE ONE FOLLOW UP, UM, MADAM CHAIR ON THE FINANCIAL, AND THAT IS, WE, WE DISCUSSED THE BAT AND THE, THE SUPPLEMENTAL THIS EVENING, AND I BELIEVE IT WAS 80 MILLION IN ERP COSTS.
SO I'M CURIOUS AS TO, WITH THAT LARGE OF AN EXPENDITURE, EVEN GIVEN, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR BUDGET OVERALL, WHY OR HOW THAT RISK WOULD'VE BEEN ASSESSED, GIVEN THE MAGNITUDE OF THAT ANNUAL EXPENDITURE OF, OF THE ERP SYSTEM RELATED TO OUR OTHER SINGLE EXPENDITURES, UM, BASED ON THE FINANCIAL PIECE, BUT, BUT ALSO THE SIGNIFICANT, UM, SYSTEM RESOURCES, HUMAN RESOURCES THAT ARE INVOLVED IN ITS IMPLEMENTATION.
SO ACTUALLY I BROUGHT THE RISK ASSESSMENT FOR THAT, UM, PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT.
IT WASN'T OF THE, UM, ERP SYSTEM ITSELF, BUT WHAT WE LOOKED FOR, UM, IN THE, IT, IT DEPARTMENT WERE SEVERAL KEY PROCESSES.
SO, UH, THEY WERE, IT GOVERNANCE AND STRATEGIC PLANNING, CYBERSECURITY AND, AND DATA PROTECTION, STUDENT DATA PRIVACY AND COMPLIANCE, NETWORK AND INFRASTRUCTURE MANAGEMENT, APPLICATION SYSTEMS AND INTEGRATION, USER ACCESS AND IDENTITY MANAGEMENT, THE IT HELP DESK OPERATIONS AND, UH, AND DEVICE MANAGEMENT.
SO THOSE WERE THE KEY PROCESSES.
OH, AND, AND TWO MORE, I'M SORRY.
UH, VENDOR CONTRACT AND ASSET MANAGEMENT AND BUSINESS CONTINUITY, CONTINUITY AND DISASTER RECOVERY.
SO THOSE WERE THE KEY PROCESSES THAT WE IDENTIFIED AND THE KEY PROCESS EXAMPLES.
AND THEN WHAT WE DID IS WE LOOKED AT THE LIKELIHOOD OF THINGS THAT WOULD OCCUR AND THE IMPACT ALSO.
AND THEY WERE ASSIGNED, EXCUSE ME, THEY WERE ASSIGNED A SCORE AND THEN, UM, A FINAL INHERENT RISK WAS CALCULATED, IF YOU WILL.
AND THEN THE TWO AREAS THAT CAME UP AS THE HIGHEST WERE THE ONES THAT WERE INCLUDED IN, IN THE WORK PLAN.
AND THEN OF COURSE, WE DEVELOPED THE LONG RANGE PLAN, YOU KNOW, A THREE YEAR LONG RANGE PLAN THAT WE INCLUDE OTHER, UH, THE OTHER PROCESSES IN.
AND AS THINGS EMERGE, LIKE I SAID, THROUGHOUT THE, THE SCHOOL YEAR, FISCAL YEAR, WE CAN ADJUST THE CURRENT YEAR PLAN AND NEW THINGS FROM THE LONG RANGE PLAN.
OR EVEN IF THERE'S, IF IT'S NOT ON THE LONG RANGE
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PLAN AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD LOOK INTO, THEN WE CAN ADJUST WITH THE COMMITTEE'S APPROVAL.AND, AND MY FINAL, FINAL QUESTION.
DO YOU HAVE A BREAKDOWN, UM, OF HOURS BY PROJECT THAT THE BOARD CAN BE PROVIDED? I THINK THAT'S USUALLY PROVIDED TO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE, BUT, UM, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO SEE OF YOUR, YOU PROVIDE THE TOTAL 10,500 AND SOME HOURS OVERALL, BUT IS THAT BROKEN OUT BY, BY PROJECT TO SEE THE BREAKDOWN OF HOW YOUR TEAM'S WORK? IS ALL THOSE HOURS ARE ALLOCATED BY PROJECT? I'M CURIOUS TO SEE, YOU KNOW, INVESTIGATING FRAUD, WASTE AND ABUSE COMPLAINTS, THE ERP PROJECT AND, AND SO ON.
IS THAT A BREAKDOWN, THAT ROUGH BREAKDOWN? OF COURSE.
UM, WE HAVE, UM, ACTUAL HOURS.
WE GIVE A, A ROUGH ESTIMATE, EXCUSE ME, AT THE BEGINNING TO BUDGET THE HOURS FOR A PROJECT.
SOMETIMES WE'RE UNDER, SOMETIMES WE'RE OVER.
BUT WE DO TRACK THE ACTUAL TIME SPENT ON A PROJECT.
WE HAVE NOT COMMUNICATED THAT INFORMATION TO THE COMMITTEE.
UM, RECENTLY, WE DO, MANY, MANY YEARS AGO, UH, WE USED TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE, BUT, UH, IT, IT WOULD BE EASY TO DO.
I'D LIKE, I'D LIKE TO RECEIVE THAT INFORMATION.
WOULD THAT REQUIRE A MOTION TO RECEIVE THAT? UM, ARE YOU WILLING TO FACILITATE THAT FOR THE MR. YOUNG BOARD TO RECEIVE? I WILL WORK, I'LL WORK WITH MS. BAR TO FACILITATE THAT.
I MEAN, IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION, YOU CAN, BUT TEST IT.
AND WHEN HE, I WOULD, UM, I MOVE THAT THE FULL BOARD RECEIVED THE BREAKDOWN OF, UM, INTERNAL AUDIT HOURS BY PROJECT LISTED IN THE OFFICE OF INTERNAL AUDIT FY 27 WORK PLAN.
IS THERE A SECOND TO MS. HEN'S MOTION? MM-HMM
ANY DISCUSSION? MS. MS. HAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE MOTION? UM, I, I BELIEVE I HAVE.
I, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHERE THE RESOURCES ARE ALIGNED ACCORDING TO THE PLAN.
IT'S INFORMATION THAT, UM, I USED TO SERVE ON THE AUDIT COMMITTEE MANY YEARS AGO, AND WE, WE RECEIVED IT.
AND IT'S HELPFUL TO SEE, UM, WHERE THE PRIORITIES ARE AND WHERE THE RESOURCES ARE ALLOCATED.
UM, IT'S ALSO A USEFUL JUSTIFICATION AS WE LOOK AT LIMITED, UM, RESOURCES OVERALL WITH STAFFING TO SAY, THIS IS THE, THE TIME COMMITMENT OR THE RESOURCES NEEDED TO COMPLETE THESE PROJECTS.
AND IT'S, IT'S HELPFUL JUSTIFICATION FOR US AS WE DEVELOP OUR BUDGET TO SAY, THIS IS WHAT IT TAKES TO DO THIS TYPE OF WORK.
SO I THINK IT'S, IT'S USEFUL TO HAVE, UM, THAT INFORMATION IN ADDITION AS QUANT, AS QUANTIFIABLE DATA IN ADDITION TO THE WORK PLAN ITSELF.
SO YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT PROJECTED, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AFTER IT'S DONE, THE ACTUAL, NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT PROJECTED AND, AND I'M NOT LOOKING FOR, UM, EXACTS, YOU KNOW, BUT MS. BARR HAS PROVIDED THAT IN THE PAST, AND IT'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL TO SEE, UM, THE ANTICIPATE OF HER TEAM AND THE ANTICIPATED HOURS AND WHAT'S REQUIRED AND SHOULD ADDITIONAL, SHOULD SHE REQUIRE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES.
IT'S, IT'S ALSO A JUSTIFICATION THAT SHE CAN COME TO US AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE NEED THIS ADDITIONAL STAFFING BECAUSE THESE ACTIVITIES REQUIRE MORE RESOURCES.
IT'S HAVING THAT QUANTIFIABLE DATA IS, IS USEFUL IN OUR DECISION MAKING.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON MS. HEN'S MOTION? MR. YOUNG? CAN WE HAVE MS. HENRY REPEAT THE MOTION MM-HMM
OR TYPE IT IN CHAT OF, OF COURSE.
UM, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD RECEIVE A BREAKDOWN OF OFFICE OF INTERNAL AUDIT HOURS BY PROJECT LISTED IN THE FY 27 WORK PLAN.
AND I'LL PUT THAT IN THE CHAT.
MR. YOUNG, DID YOU HAVE A QUE ANOTHER QUESTION? NO.
MS. BARR, UM, HOW, UM, I GUESS, HOW MUCH DO YOU, HOW MUCH VARIANCE DO YOU FIND THAT YOU TYPICALLY HAVE? SO IF YOU DO THAT PROJECTION, I HEARD YOU SAY THAT YOU DO TRACK THE ACTUAL MM-HMM
HAVE YOU ACTUALLY LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, IS THERE A LARGE VARIANCE OR ARE YOU GUYS TYPICALLY KIND OF ON, ON TARGET? YEAH, IT, IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE PROJECT AND, UM, IF THERE'S ANY TYPE OF DIFFICULTIES OR DELAYS, UM, TRYING TO GET THE INFORMATION, TRYING TO GET THE DOCUMENTATION, UM, WHETHER THERE'S AN ILLNESS ON THE PART OF THE AUDITEE OR THE AUDITOR, YOU KNOW, UM, SOMETIMES IT EXTENDS THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT'S SPENT ON THE PROJECT.
UM, BUT IN GENERAL, WE'RE PRETTY MUCH ON THE, YOU KNOW, IN THE BALLPARK.
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HAVE GONE OVER THAT I GET CONCERNED ABOUT THAT WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT STEP BACK AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, UM, APPLYING OUR RESOURCES APPROPRIATELY.UM, BUT PRETTY MUCH WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY MUCH IN THE BALLPARK.
THERE ARE SOME OUTLIERS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, BUT, OKAY.
AND SOMETIMES, UH, THE, THE SCOPE HAS TO GET ADJUSTED, UH, BECAUSE IF WE GO IN AND DO SOME PRELIMINARY WORK, SOMETIMES, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL FIND OUT.
MAYBE WE HAVE TO DEFER THE PROJECTS, SO WE ONLY SPEND MAYBE 10 HOURS ON IT.
AND THEN SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO INCREASE THE SCOPE ON PROJECTS, WHICH WOULD THEN TAKE IT THE OTHER WAY AND, AND REALLY INCREASE THE NUMBER OF HOURS SPENT, WHICH WOULD BE OVER BUDGET THEN.
NOW, INVESTIGATIONS, WE DON'T, WE HAVE A GENERAL POT OF HOURS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE, UM, WE, WE DON'T BUDGET BY PROJECT BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GETTING IN ALLEGATION WISE.
SO I THINK I MAY HAVE BE OUTTA ORDER HERE 'CAUSE WE HAD THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE WORK PLAN, AND THEN WE HAVE MS. HENS.
SO CAN I STICK TO APPROVING MS, HE, I MEAN, VOTING ON MS. HENS, OR DO I NEED TO GO BACK TO THE AUDIT WORK PLAN? WAS MS. DARREN BURNS BOARD COUNSEL FOR THE RECORD, WAS MS. HEN'S MOTION INTENDED TO MODIFY THE PRIMARY MOTION? NO, YOU SHOULD, YOU SHOULD PAUSE AND DISPOSE OF THE PRIMARY MOTION FINISH.
WHEN YOU SAY DEPOSE A PRIMARY DISPOSE, YES.
SO MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE? I HAD FURTHER DISCUSSION ON MS. HENS OR ON THE ORIGINAL.
OKAY, GO AHEAD, MS. HUMPHREY THAT, YES.
AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S ASKED US YET.
UM, UNDER SPECIAL EDUCATION STUDENT PLACEMENTS, WOULD THAT INCLUDE EVALUATING OR IDENTIFICATION OF STUDENTS AS FAR AS WHETHER OR NOT THEY NEED SPECIAL EDUCATION SERVICES? OR IS THIS ONLY FOR STUDENTS WHO HAVE ALREADY BEEN IDENTIFIED AS NEEDING THOSE SERVICES? IT WOULD BE FOR THOSE STUDENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN IDENTIFIED AS NEEDING THE SERVICES.
AND WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE TO PLACE THOSE THINGS TOGETHER, OR IS THAT A SEPARATE ISSUE THAT IT WOULDN'T BE APPROPRIATE TO ADD TO THIS TOPIC? WHAT ARE YOU SAYING TO ADD TO IT? I'M, SO MY QUESTION WAS WHETHER NUMBER EIGHT SPECIAL EDUCATION STUDENT PLACEMENTS ALSO INCLUDED EVALUATING OUR, THE SYSTEMS IDENTIFICATION OF STUDENTS WHO MAY NEED SPECIAL EDUCATION SERVICES WHO AREN'T ALREADY RECEIVING THOSE SERVICES? AND THE ANSWER I THINK WAS NO.
SO MY SECOND FOLLOW UP QUESTION WOULD BE, WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING TO COMBINE WITH THIS, OR SHOULD THAT BE A SEPARATE TOPIC? COMPLETELY IF WE WANTED TO HAVE A REVIEW OF THAT, I THINK IT, IT SHOULD BE A SEPARATE TOPIC COMPLETELY BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO, TO DO THAT.
AND THE FOCUS IS, IS D WOULD BE DIFFERENT.
UM, I'LL GO BACK TO THAT IN A SECOND.
MY SECOND QUESTION IS REGARDING THE SCHOOL SAFETY, BULLYING, HARASSMENT OR INTIMIDATION.
DOES THAT INCLUDE, UM, EVALUATING AND OUR PRO EVALUATING OUR PROCESS AS FAR AS WHEN ROOT STUDENTS ARE FILLING OUT THE REPORTING AND HARASSMENT FORMS AND HOW THEY'RE FOLLOWED UP ON AND OUR PROCESS FOR WHETHER THAT'S SUCCESSFUL, OUR PROCESS IS SUCCESSFUL, SUCCESSFUL? EXCUSE ME.
WOULD THAT BE INCLUDED UNDER THIS? CORRECT.
THAT WE'D BE EVALUATING THE PROCESS AND THIS, THIS PROJECT, UM, WAS ASKED TO BE DEFERRED BECAUSE THEY WERE UPDATING THE PROCESS AND IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE AT THAT TIME WHEN WE ORIGINALLY WANTED TO LOOK AT IT TO DO IT AT THAT TIME.
SO NOW THE, THE PROCESS HAS BEEN UPDATED AND WE'LL BE EVALUATING, UM, THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THAT PROCESS.
SO, UM, I'M, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND.
IF NOT, SOMEBODY CAN LET ME KNOW AND THEN TO DISCUSS BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT, BECAUSE I WANNA MAKE SURE I'M IN LINE HERE.
UM, SO I WANNA ADD AN ITEM TO EVALUATE OUR IDENTIFICATION OF STUDENTS NEEDING SPECIAL EDUCATION SERVICES.
CAN YOU REPEAT THAT, MS EY? I WANNA, UM, LET ME, HOLD ON.
A MOTION TO AMEND THE GENERAL SCOPE OF WORK OR THE, UM, WORK PLAN, EXCUSE ME, TO ADD AN AUDIT AREA FOR EVALUATING OUR IDENTIFICATION OF STUDENTS NEEDING SPECIAL EDUCATION SERVICES.
MAY I ASK CLARIFICATION? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PROCESS TO IDENTIFY STUDENT, OKAY.
SO I ADD THAT WORD PROCESS PLEASE.
MOTION TO EVALUATE OUR PROCESS FOR IDENTIFICATION.
IDENTIFICATION OF STUDENTS NEEDING SPECIAL EDUCATION SERVICES.
IS THERE A SECOND TO MS. HUMPHREY'S? AMENDED MOTION? SECOND.
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I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND MS. HUMPHREY, WHAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE TRYING TO FIND OUT IF THE PROCE EVEN FOR KIDS WHO WEREN'T IDENTIFIED IF THE PROCESS WAS WORKING.SO THAT'S WHY MY FIRST QUESTION WAS ABOUT NUMBER EIGHT SPECIFICALLY, IF THAT INCLUDED STUDENTS WHO WEREN'T ALL ALREADY IDENTIFIED.
I THINK WE ARE HEARING A LOT OF, UM, FROM THE PUBLIC AND ISSUES AS FAR AS STUDENTS WHO AREN'T ALREADY IDENTIFI IDENTIFIED THAT THEY'RE NOT BEING IDENTIFIED PROPERLY.
SO I JUST THINK THAT WE NEED A REVIEW OF OUR PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT STUDENTS AND PARENTS WHO, YOU KNOW, SAY THEIR STUDENTS SHOULD BE IDENTIFIED AND THEY'RE NOT, UM, THAT, THAT WE'RE, THAT PROCESS SHOULD AUDIT THAT PROCESS, I THINK, TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S, UM, SUCCESSFUL.
AND IT'S TWO DIFFERENT, IF IT, IT IS TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND I, AND YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT I KNOW THAT MSDE DOES EXTENSIVE AUDITING OF SPECIAL EDUCATION.
IS THAT WHAT MS. HUMPHREY'S ASKING? IS THAT ALREADY PART OF AN AUDIT THAT, THAT CURRENTLY IS BEING DONE? I, I KNOW YOU'RE NOT GONNA KNOW THAT, RIGHT? I REALLY KNOW THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION.
A FURTHER DISCUSSION ON MS. HUMPHREY'S AMENDED MOTION.
MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THE AMENDED MOTION.
CAN YOU REREAD IT, MS. GOVER, UH, TO AMEND THE WORK PLAN, TO ADD AN AUDIT AREA TO EVALUATE THE PROCESS FOR IDENTIFYING STUDENTS NEEDING SPECIAL EDUCATION SERVICES.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE BACK TO MS. HENS.
MS. HEN I'D LIKE TO WITHDRAW MY MOTION AND MAKE A NEW MOTION TO, OKAY.
LET US MAKE, MAKE IT FINISH THE, OH, YOU'RE STILL, OKAY, GO AHEAD.
I'D LIKE TO WITHDRAW THE MOTION I MADE.
AND MOVE TO AMEND THE WORK PLAN.
BY ADDING THE HOURS FOR EACH PROJECT IN THE, UM, WORK PLAN, IS THERE A SECOND TO MS. HEN'S? YOU MEAN THE BUDGETED HOURS? EXCUSE ME.
ADDING THE BUDGETED HOURS TO THE, UM, YOU MEAN ANOTHER COLUMN THAT WOULD HAVE PROJECTED HOURS? IS THERE A SECOND TO MS. HEN'S? MOTION? SECOND ESKI.
AND I'LL YOU, IT'S THE SAME RATIONALE AS YOU DID BEFORE, RIGHT? MR. YOUNG DISCUSSION.
SO I HAVE THE, A QUESTION FOR MS. BARR.
OF COURSE, YOU'VE PLANNED THIS OUT AND YOU'VE ALLOCATED, YOU KNOW, UH, I THINK THEY SAID 10,000 HOURS RELATED TO THIS, AND WE'VE NOW ADDED THE IMPLEMENTATION TO THAT.
SO YOU, THE EXPECTATION IS YOU'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND RECALCULATE, OR IS THE BASIC GOING TO BE THE SAME? UM, BUT THIS RUNS INTO THE SITUATION WHERE YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE WHERE, UM, THIS IS A RISK BASE.
SO THIS IS POTENTIALLY MORE WORK THAN YOU COULD ACCOMPLISH WITHIN THE YEAR WITH THE OTHER CARRYOVER AND INVESTIGATIONS THAT MAY COME UP.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO BACK AND READJUST THE HOURS WITH THE ADDITION OF, OF THE NEW PROJECT.
AND IT MAY OR MAY NOT PUSH ONE OF THESE PROJECTS INTO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, OR WE MAY HAVE CARRY OVER, WE MAY NOT GET TO IT TO THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR AND IT MAY CARRY OVER INTO THE, INTO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH NOW AND, AND READJUST THE HOURS WITH THE ADDITION OF THE NEW PROJECT.
BUT CAN YOU PLEASE READ WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON TO ADD THE BUDGETED HOURS TO THE WORK PLAN FOR FY 27? AND MADAM CHAIR, I ALSO PUT IT IN THE CHAT IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO REREAD IT.
I MOVE TO AMEND THE FY 27 WORK PLAN BY ADDING THE BUDGETED HOURS FOR EACH AUDIT AREA.
SO WE'RE STILL NOT VOTING ON THE WORK PLAN YET.
UM, CAN WE AMEND AND JUST SAY, INSTEAD OF BUDGETED PROJECTED HOURS, YOU JUST WANNA CHANGE THE LANGUAGE? MS. RE YEAH, I'M, I'M HAPPY TO DE DEFER TO WHAT, WHATEVER MS. BARR WOULD PREFER.
MS. UNK, DO YOU WANNA EXPLAIN WHY YOU THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL? 'CAUSE IT, IT IS A PROJECTION.
JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR THAT IF WE, IF WE SAY IT'S GOING TO JUST
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A THOUSAND HOURS, SO WOULD YOU, AND IT TAKES US 1500 HOURS, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE THE EXPLANATION AS TO WHY, BUT I THINK IT'S PROBABLY A BETTER TERM TO SAY PROJECTED BUDGETED HOURS.MS. GOVER, DID YOU GET THAT? YOU'RE JUST ADDING THE WORD PROJECTED IN FRONT OF BUDGETED? THE ORIGINAL AMENDMENT WASN'T THE SAME AS THE, OKAY.
SO YOU WANT PROJECTED BUDGET HOURS, PROJECTED HOURS.
NOW IF I'M FOLLOWING THE MAZE, WE ARE BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION, CORRECT? CORRECT.
AS AMENDED, RIGHT? SO DO I HAVE TO SAY IT AGAIN SINCE? NO.
ON THE ORIGINAL MOTION TO APPROVE THE OFFICE OF INTERNAL AUDIT WORK PLAN FOR FY 2027 AS AMENDED.
[O. NEW BUSINESS - CONTRACT AWARDS (Dr. Grim) (8:55 - 9:10 p.m.)]
THE AGENDA IS CONTRACT AWARDS.AND FOR THAT I CALL MR. YOUNG.
ITEMS OH ONE THROUGH OH NINE WERE FORWARDED TO THE FULL BOARD FOR APPROVAL.
THANK YOU MR. YOUNG, BOARD MEMBERS, ARE THERE ANY SEPARATIONS BEING REQUESTED? OKAY, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS OH ONE THROUGH OH NINE? NO.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS? OH ONE THROUGH OH NINE.
NO SECOND IS NEEDED SINCE THE RECOMMENDATION COMES FROM THE COMMITTEE.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, MS. FONG? THANK YOU.
UM, I JUST, I HAD A QUESTION ON TWO OF THE CONTRACTS.
UM, WHAT IS THE NEGLECTED AND DELINQUENT INSTITUTION? I UNDERSTAND IT'S JUST A RECONFIGURATION OF THE CHURCH.
UM, BUT WHAT IS THE ACTUAL NEGLECTED AND DELINQUENT INSTITUTION? IS THAT THE CHURCH, UM, DON'T BELIEVE MS. STANSBERRY IS HERE.
UM, THE CONSENT TO ASSIGNMENT OF THIS CONTRACT FROM THE BOARD OF CHILDCARE OF THE UNITED METHODIST CHURCH INCORPORATED TO THE BOARD OF CHILDCARE OF THE UNITED METHODIST CHURCH, INCORPORATED, DBA EVER STAND.
UM, THIS IS THE RESULT OF A CORPORATE MERGER AND REBRANDING.
MS. WEBSTER, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? I'M NOT MS. STAN, I KNOW YOU'RE NOT, BUT I CAN ATTEMPT, UM, CONTRACT TITLE, TITLE ONE SERVICES.
THIS SPEAKS TO INSTITUTIONS THAT MAY NOT, THAT MAY BE WHERE WE HAVE STUDENTS ATTEND THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR TITLE ONE FUNDING, BUT THE MONEY FLOWS THROUGH BCPS, SO THE INSTITUTIONS ARE NOT NEGLECTED OR DELINQUENT
UM, THESE ARE JUST PLACES WHERE STUDENTS WHO WOULD OTHERWISE ATTEND BCPS HAVE CHOSEN TO ATTEND, AND WE PAY FOR TITLE ONE SERVICES FOR THOSE STUDENTS AT THAT INSTITUTION.
AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS, UM, FOR OH SIX, THE RADIO COMMUNICATIONS MASTER CONTRACT.
UM, SO AGAIN, THIS ONE SOUNDS LIKE IT'S NOT A CHANGE IN TERMS, UM, BUT BECAUSE THERE'S STILL NEGOTIATIONS HAPPENING, WE JUST NEED THE ADDITIONAL MONEY TO FUNCTION IN THE SAME WAY THAT WE'RE FUNCTIONING UNTIL EVERYTHING GETS CLEARED UP, I GUESS, WITH THESE NEGOTIATIONS.
SO WE'RE JUST OPERATING UNDER THE SAME TERMS OF THE EXISTING AGREEMENT.
THE STATE HAS, OH, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.
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THEY'VE EXTENDED IT THROUGH NOVEMBER.SO, UM, THEIR NEW SOLICITATION HAD SOME ISSUES.
SO THEY ARE REBIDDING, SO THEY'RE EXTENDING THIS CURRENT CONTRACT THROUGH NOVEMBER.
IN THIS EXHIBIT, WE'RE ONLY ASKING FOR, I BELIEVE, A MONTH.
WE WILL BE BRINGING IT BACK AGAIN IN JUNE FOR THE FULL NOVEMBER EXTENSION.
AND AGAIN, IT'LL BE UNDER THE EXISTING TERMS, THE TERMS OF THE EXISTING AGREEMENT? YES, MA'AM.
MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE PLEASE.
[P. REPORT - BUDGET (Mr. Grim and Mr. Tantleff) (9:10 - 9:30 p.m.)]
ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE REPORT ON THE QUARTERLY FINANCIAL REPORT FOR THE MONTH ENDING MARCH 20, 26.AND FOR THAT I CALL ON DR. GRAHAM.
AND MR. TANIFF, UH, THANK YOU.
THERE SHOULD BE A PRESENTATION.
UH, WE'RE HERE TODAY TO PRESENT, UM, THE FINANCIAL REPORT, WHICH YOU'VE, UH, ALL SEEN, UH, MANY TIMES.
SO THIS IS JUST, UH, AN UPDATE THROUGH THE END OF MARCH FOR THE GENERAL FUND.
YOU CAN SEE WE'VE SPENT, UH, ONE AND A HALF BILLION, WHICH IS 74% OF OUR BUDGET.
UM, AND, UH, THE, THE BULLET POINTS THERE, YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
UH, WE, WE, UM, COMPLY WITH ALL RE REQUIREMENTS.
OUR REVENUES REPORTED MONTHLY.
UM, WE GET CASH DRAWS FROM THE COUNTY WHEN WE NEED IT, BUT, UH, STATE REVENUE COMES AUTOMATICALLY EVERY OTHER MONTH.
AND OTHER REVENUE IS PRIMARILY OUR FUND BALANCE, AND WE GET ALMOST NO FEDERAL REVENUE IN THE GENERAL FUND.
JUST, UH, R-O-T-C-A LITTLE BIT.
UM, HERE YOU CAN JUST SEE BY DIFFERENT, UH, ACTIVITY, WHAT PERCENT OF THE BUDGET WE'VE OBLIGATED THROUGH THE END OF MARCH.
AND THEN ON THE LEFT YOU CAN SEE, UM, EACH OF THE CATEGORIES IN THE PIE AND HOW MUCH, UH, THE BUDGET IS FOR THE FULL YEAR VERSUS WHAT WE'VE SPENT FOR THE YEAR.
UH, AS YOU'VE HEARD MANY TIMES BEFORE, PAYROLL IS 82% OF OUR BUDGET, UH, PAYROLL AND BENEFITS.
SO THAT'S WHAT CONSUMES MOST OF IT.
WE REPORT EVERYTHING IN ACCORDANCE WITH MSD REPORTING REQUIREMENTS, AND THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE, UH, THE SUPPLEMENTAL AND BAT THAT YOU ALL, UH, APPROVE TONIGHT, AND THAT THE COUNCIL, UH, SHOULD APPROVE ON JUNE 1ST.
UH, THE LAST SLIDE WE HAVE HERE, UH, JUST REPORTS ON OUR SPECIAL REVENUE OR GRANT BUDGET.
UM, THE BUDGET IS 257 MILLION FOR THE YEAR, AND THAT'S, UH, THE SUM OF ALL GRANTS ACROSS MULTIPLE YEARS THAT ARE STILL ACTIVE.
UH, THE REPORT, UH, IN FRONT OF YOU, UH, DID HAVE AN ERROR ON SPECIAL REVENUE.
UH, THIS SLIDE IS CORRECT, BUT THE REPORT WILL BE REPOSTED, UH, TOMORROW.
JUST WITH THAT CORRECTION FOR THE FINAL PAGE OF THE REPORT.
UM, GRANT PROGRAMS ARE GENERALLY RE REIMBURSABLE AND FOR CONCENTRATION OF POVERTY, I THINK FALLS INTO THAT BUCKET.
UM, COOPS BY FAR OUR LARGEST STATE GRANT, AND THAT, AS YOU ALL KNOW, IS FAIRLY NEW SINCE BLUEPRINT CAME AROUND.
UM, TITLE ONE, ALL THE ACTIVE GRANTS EQUAL 93.3 MILLION.
AND IDA PASS THROUGH SPECIAL ED GRANT IS 63 MILLION.
AND LASTLY, THIRD PARTY BILLING, MEDICAID ROLLS UP UNDER SPECIAL REVENUE.
UM, BUT THOSE ARE ALL FUNDS GENERATED BY OUR AWESOME THIRD PARTY BILLING TEAM, AND THAT TOTALS A LITTLE OVER $14 MILLION.
THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TONIGHT ON THE FINANCIAL REPORT.
ANY QUESTIONS, MS. DOKI? SO THE, UM, THE 1.6 BILLION YOU SAID YOU ALREADY HAVE DESIGNATED TO BE SPENT THAT'S FROM THIS FISCAL YEAR UP UNTIL MARCH 31ST.
SO GOING BACK TO JULY, 2025 TO NOW, YES.
THAT'S, THAT'S HOW MUCH WE'VE SPENT YEAR TO DATE, EITHER SPENT OR ENCUMBERED THROUGH THE END OF MARCH IN THE GENERAL FUND.
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SO IN THE, UM, DOCUMENT THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US FOR THE BUDGET LINE TRANSFER, IT WENT ALL THE, IT, IT COVERS ALL OF THAT.WOULD IT BE EXACT, WOULD IT BE 1.6 BILLION OR WOULD IT BE MORE? UH, WELL, UH, JUST THE BUDGET LINE TRANSFER REPORT EQUALS ZERO.
THE BUDGET LINE TRANSFERS ARE JUST MOVING DOLLARS AROUND, AND THAT'S JUST DEALS WITH THE BUDGET.
SO IN THEORY, ANY BUDGET DOLLARS YOU HAVE, UH, CAN BE MOVED AROUND, BUT IT'S, IT'S A NET OF ZERO.
THIS IS TALKING ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY WE'VE ACTUALLY SPENT.
SO IT'S INVOICES WE'VE PAID CASH OUT THE DOOR OR PURCHASE ORDERS THAT ARE ENCUMBERED WHERE WE'RE WAITING FOR THE PRODUCTS AND GOODS TO COME OR THE BILL TO COME AND, UM, UH, BE PUT AGAINST THAT ENCUMBRANCE.
SO THE, SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE REALLY UNRELATED ACTIVITIES, THEY'RE UNRELATED.
IS THERE A WAY TO GET THAT? SO WE CAN SEE HOW, LIKE MUCH WE'VE SPENT SO FAR, NOT, IF NOT A BUDGET LINE TRANSFER, BUT SOME OTHER KIND OF ACCOUNTING DOCUMENT THAT SHOWS US WHAT WE'VE SPENT 1.6 BILLION ON? UM, WELL, UH, THE REPORT THAT WE TURN IN, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS SUBMITTED FOR THIS MONTH DOES HAVE, UH, I GUESS I WOULDN'T CALL IT GRANULAR, BUT IT DOES GO THROUGH ALL OF OUR EXPENDITURES THROUGH THE YEAR.
SO THAT'S THE PRIMARY METHOD WHERE WE'VE BEEN INFORMING THE BOARD OF OUR YEAR TO DATE EXPENDITURES.
BUT IT'S NOT LIKE A, A, A STATEMENT OR AN INVOICE OF ACTUALLY SHOWING YOU IT JUST, IT'S MORE OF A BIG PICTURE OR A, YOU KNOW, HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF IT.
IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T GO DOWN INTO DETAIL LIKE WHAT WE SPENT ON EACH CONTRACT TO EQUAL THAT 1.6 BILLION OR WHAT WE SPENT ON WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, I GUESS WE'D, WE'D NEED TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY A LITTLE MORE WHAT YOU WERE INTERESTED IN SEEING.
I MEAN, THERE'S THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF FINANCIAL TRANSACTIONS THAT HAVE OCCURRED.
THERE'S MANY THOUSANDS OF TRANSACTIONS OF PAYROLL THAT HAVE OCCURRED.
UM, THERE'S THOUSANDS OF ACCOUNT STRINGS, THOUSANDS OF ACCOUNT STRINGS.
WELL, SOMEHOW YOU GOT TO THE NUMBER OF 1.6 BILLION.
SO OTHER THAN THOSE LIKE, YOU KNOW, GENERALIZE, GENERALIZING THROUGH, YOU KNOW, ADMINISTRATION, INSTRUCTIONAL, WHATEVER THE, HOWEVER IT'S GENERALIZED, THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME WAY THAT WE CAN PUT THAT TOGETHER WHERE WHETHER IT'S THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OR JUST SOMETHING MORE THAN JUST ONE PAGE GENERAL, THIS IS WHAT WE SPENT THE MONEY ON AND MORE OF A SPECIFIC, UM, INVOICE OR STATEMENT, KIND OF LIKE THE BUDGET LINE TRANSFER, BUT JUST WITH WHAT WE'VE ACTUALLY SPENT, NOT WHAT MONEY MOVING AROUND, WHAT WE WERE ACTUALLY SPENDING.
YOU KNOW, I'M, I GUESS WE WOULD NEED TO UNDERSTAND AND DEVELOP A REPORT THAT MET THE BOARD'S NEEDS, SIMILAR TO HOW WE DEVELOPED THE BUDGET LINE TRANSFER REPORT FOR BUDGET COMMITTEE SEVERAL YEARS AGO, AND NOW ARE PRESENTING TO THE BOARD.
I MEAN, A, A, AGAIN, THERE'S A CERTAIN LEVEL OF GRANULARITY THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE THAN WOULD BE BENEFICIAL.
I, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, AGAIN, YOU COULD DUMP THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF TRANSACTIONS OUT OF THE ACCOUNTING SYSTEM, BUT HOW WOULD THAT HELP YOU? WE CAN'T EXPL, YOU KNOW, WELL, THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME BIG TICKET ITEMS AS FAR AS BOTH THE ERP AND THE MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACTS THAT WE'RE PUTTING OUT.
LIKE, THAT KIND OF STUFF ISN'T SO GRANULAR.
IT'S NOT THOUSANDS, IT'S, NO, IT'S JUST A COUPLE THAT MAKE UP THE BIGGER, UM, THAT WOULD JUST BE A LITTLE HELPFUL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE QUARTERLY FINANCIAL REPORT? OKAY, THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.
[Q. INFORMATION (9:30 p.m.)]
IS INFORMATION, WHICH INCLUDES THE FINAL UPDATE ON KEY SCHOOL LEGISLATION AND THE MEETING MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 17TH, 2025 SOUTHEAST AREA EDUCATION ADVISORY COUNCIL.[R. BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS AND AGENDA SETTING (9:30 - 9:40 p.m.)]
ON THE AGENDA IS ANY BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS AND AGENDA SETTINGS.SO IF YOU HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM OR ANY COMMENTS, PLEASE, MS. LESKI.
UM, I WANNA THANK THOSE THAT REACHED OUT TO US.
UM, OUT OF YOUR CONCERN ABOUT YOUR CHANGING WORKLOAD AS LIBRARY MEDIA SPECIALISTS, CLEARLY THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT CONTINUES TO BE IMPORTANT TO MANY PEOPLE.
UM, AND THERE DOES SEEM TO BE SOME CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE BUDGET.
UM, AND THANK YOU TO TABCO FOR SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE LIBRARY MEDIA SPECIALIST THIS EVENING.
SO I'M JUST REQUESTING, YOU KNOW, IN
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LIGHT OF TRANSPARENCY AND JUST MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THIS SITUATION IS FULLY TRANSPARENT TO THE PUBLIC, THAT, UM, TWO QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED.UM, BASED ON THE FEBRUARY 24TH BOARD MEETING, WHEN THE MOTION WAS MADE TO, UM, ELIMINATE THE TWO CLASS, UH, CLASS CLASSES PER DAY IN, IN TERMS OF A TEACHING REQUIREMENT, UM, IT SEEMED TO BE THAT, UM, THAT MONEY WAS GONNA BE REALLOCATED TO PROVIDE FOR THAT MOTION ONCE IT PASSED.
SO WHY WAS THE REQUEST FOR COUNTY EXECUTIVE FUNDING AN ADDITIONAL ASK INSTEAD OF RECONFIGURING THAT MONEY? THANK YOU.
OTHER COMMENTS, MS. HUMPHREY? UM, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A REPORT ON THE SEVERE OVERCROWDING AT OVERLY HIGH SCHOOL, WHETHER, UM, MAYBE DISCUSS WHETHER WE NEED AN EMERGENCY BOUNDARY STUDY.
UM, I'VE HEARD ABOUT THE OVERCROWDING, I'VE HEARD CONCERNS ABOUT IT, BUT I VISITED THE SCHOOL AND SAW IT IN PERSON.
AND THERE ARE SO MANY TRAILERS IN THE BACK.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY'RE GETTING TWO MORE NEXT YEAR.
UM, I DID WANNA POINT OUT THAT THE STUDENTS AND STAFF ARE INCREDIBLY RESILIENT WITH HOW THEY'RE RESPONDING TO THE OVERCROWDING, UM, STAFF MEMBER SHARING OFFICES.
UM, AND IT JUST, IT, IT CONCERNS ME, SO I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS IT.
UM, AND ALSO WANTED TO CALL OUT PRINCIPAL SAMPLES FOR HER, UM, INNOVATIVE WAYS OF HANDLING THE OVERCROWDING WHEN THERE LITERALLY IS NO SPACE FOR ANYONE.
UM, AND I THINK OFTENTIMES WE HAVE TO HEAR FROM PARENTS OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO COME AND ADDRESS US ABOUT THE OVERCROWDING.
BUT THIS PARTICULARLY WOULD BE A GROUP OF STUDENTS WHERE WE'RE NOT HEARING FROM PARENTS, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THOSE STUDENTS DON'T NEED OUR HELP.
ANYONE ELSE? MS. FROM HUNG? SO MAY IS MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS MONTH.
UM, AS WE COME TO THE END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR, WE HAVE MANY STUDENTS WHO ARE EXCITED WITH THE SENIORS GRADUATING.
THEY'RE ENDING THIS CHAPTER OF THEIR LIFE, UM, WITH HIGH SCHOOL AND BEGINNING A NEW CHAPTER WITH THEIR PLANS FOLLOWING HIGH SCHOOL.
BUT THIS CAN ALSO BE A ANXIOUS TIME OF YEAR, UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE PROJECTS, TESTS, AP EXAMS, ET CETERA.
SO JUST WANNA REMIND THE TEACHERS, STUDENTS, AND STAFF TO PLEASE BE SURE TO TAKE CARE OF YOURSELVES, UM, WITH SELF CARE AND MENTAL HEALTH.
UM, USE THOSE RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
WE EVEN HAVE TALKSPACE HERE IN BCPS, UH, REACH OUT TO LOVED ONES.
UM, THERE HAS BEEN A STIGMA FOR TOO LONG OF ADMITTING THAT YOU NEED HELP OR HAVING TROUBLE.
AND THERE IS NO SHAME IN ADMITTING THAT YOU'RE NOT FINE.
AND THERE'S NO SHAME IN SEEKING HEALING.
SO PEOPLE DO AND THEY WOULD UNDERSTAND.
YOU DO NOT HAVE TO STRUGGLE ALONE.
SO BREAK YOUR SILENCE, SPEAK YOUR TRUTH, AND HEAL, AND WE ARE HEALING TOGETHER.
THANK YOU MS. FONG, FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
UM, MY COMMENT IS TO MS. HUMPHREY AND MS. FORESIGHT, NOT MISS FORESIGHT.
MS. AVI, I JUST WANNA THANK YOU FOR THE WORDS THAT YOU SPOKE, UM, AND THE COURAGE THAT YOU HAD TO SAY THAT LANGUAGE MATTERS AND OUR CHILDREN, OUR STUDENTS, NOBODY DESERVES TO BE BELITTLED THROUGH THE LANGUAGES USED.
SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BOTH SPEAKING UP ON BEHALF OF OUR KIDS.
[S. ANNOUNCEMENTS (9:40 p.m.)]
ITEM ON THE AGENDA ARE ANNOUNCEMENTS.THE BOARD WILL HOLD A VIRTUAL PUBLIC HEARING ON THE FY 2028 CAPITAL BUDGET ON WEDNESDAY, MAY 13TH, 2026 AT 6:30 PM THIS IS FOR INPUT ON THE UPCOMING CAPITAL PROJECTS BUDGET PROCESS TO BE HELD THIS SUMMER.
ONLINE REGISTRATION OPENS TOMORROW MAY 6TH AND CLOSES AT 3:00 PM ON MAY 12TH.
THE LINK TO REGISTER IS IN BOARD DOCS AND CAN ALSO BE FOUND ON THE PARTICIPATION BY THE PUBLIC PAGE.
THE BOARD'S NEXT MEETING WILL BE HELD ON TUESDAY, MAY 19TH, 2026.
AT MS. PUMPHREY, I APOLOGIZE FOR INTERRUPT YOU, BUT I FORGOT SOME ONE VERY IMPORTANT THING TO SAY.
HAPPY TEACHER APPRECIATION DAY TO OUR TEACHERS AND HAPPY TEACHER APPRECIATION WEEK TO OUR TEACHERS.
BUT WE'RE STILL GONNA HAVE A MEETING ON THE TUESDAY, MAY 19TH, 2026 AT 6:30 PM THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR JOINING US TONIGHT.