Jul 14, 2026 Board of Education Meeting

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND LESKI.

MS. HUMPHREY? MS. THORNTON.

MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.

MS. MCMILLION? YES.

MS. FONG.

MS. FONG, YOU'RE ON MUTE.

MS. HEN? YES.

MS. JI? YES.

SAVOY, YOU ARE ON MUTE.

JUST PUT SOMETHING IN THE CHAT.

THE NEXT ITEM.

THIS IS CHAIRWOMAN JANE LICHTER.

[B. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE/SILENT MEDITATION (6:30 p.m.)]

I NOW CALL TO ORDER THE MEETING OF THE BOARD OF EDUCATION OF BALTIMORE COUNTY FOR TUESDAY, JULY 14TH, 2026.

I INVITE YOU TO RECITE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG TO BE LED BY MS. CLAIRE JI.

WE WILL THEN HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND RECOGNITION OF THOSE WHO HAVE SERVED EDUCATION IN BALTIMORE COUNTY.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THE AGENDA IS THE CONSIDERATION OF THE JULY 14TH AGENDA.

TONIGHT'S BOARD OF EDUCATION MEETING IS BEING BROADCAST THROUGH THE BCPS ONLINE LIVE MEETING BROADCAST AND ON BCPS TV, COMCAST, XFINITY, CHANNEL 1 0 7 3 AND VERIZON FIOS, CHANNEL 34.

IN ORDER TO EFFICIENTLY CONDUCT THIS MEETING, ALL VOTING ITEMS THIS EVENING WILL BE DONE BY ROLL CALL VOTE.

THE FIRST ITEM ON

[C. AGENDA (6:35 p.m.)]

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADD VICE CHAIR ELECTION AS NEW AGENDA ITEM E WITH ALL SUBSEQUENT AGENDA ITEMS ADJUSTED WITH THE NEW LETTERING.

MAY I HAVE A MOTION PLEASE? SO MOVE EY.

MAY I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

YOUNG.

ANY DISCUSSION? MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE PLEASE.

THERE ANY OTHER CHANGES TO THE AGENDA? NO CHANGES.

THANK YOU MS. HEN.

THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.

WILL ITEM N ONE BE REMOVED FROM TONIGHT'S AGENDA AS THE BUILDING AND CONTRACTS COMMITTEE DECIDED TO POSTPONE IT TILL OUR NEXT MEETING? DR.

HEISER? YES.

THANK YOU FOR CATCHING THAT.

HEISER, DO I NEED TO DO A MOTION FOR THAT RE NO, IT'LL BE, IT'S IN YOUR SCRIPT FOR THAT.

AND PROCEDURES TO BE INSERTED IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE NEW ITEM P AND SUBSEQUENT AGENDA ITEMS TO BE FIXED.

WHEN I GET TO IT.

OKAY, MS. DOKI? YES, PLEASE.

UH, I HAVE A MOTION TO AMEND THE AGENDA BY ADDING A NEW AGENDA ITEM TITLED REVIEW, COMMENT, AND ATTENDANCE GUIDELINES

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IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, KY THANK YOU.

ANY DISCUSSION ON ADDING IT TO THE AGENDA? NOT THE TOPIC ITSELF.

MS. HUMPHREY, I JUST HAVE A CLARIFYING QUESTION FOR MS. DOKI.

UM, IS THIS REGARDING THE POLICY OR THE GUIDELINES OR BOTH? BECAUSE IF IT'S A POLICY ISSUE, THEY'RE CONNECTED AND I I'LL ADDRESS IT WHEN WE OKAY.

ANYONE ELSE MAY HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE PLEASE.

MS. EY? YES.

MS. THORNTON? YES.

MR. MCMILLIAN? YES.

MS. AL? I THINK THERE'S SOME TECH ISSUES HAPPENING.

UH, MS. HAN? YES.

DO YOU NEED US TO WAIT, MR. HORNS? ARE WE OKAY? CHAIR LTER, THIS IS MS. FRUMP.

I DIDN'T HEAR MY NAME CALLED, BUT I AM PRESENT.

THEY JUST FIXED THE TECH, SO, AND YOU JUST LET US KNOW THAT IT'S WORKING.

EARLIER THIS EVENING, THE BOARD MET ENCLOSED SESSION PURSUANT TO THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS TO DISCUSS THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT ASSIGNMENT, PROMOTION, DISCIPLINE, DEMOTION, COMPENSATION, REMOVAL, RESIGNATION OR PERFORMANCE EVALUATION OF APPOINTEES, EMPLOYEES OR OFFICIALS OVER WHOM IT HAS JURISDICTION OR ANY OTHER PERSONNEL MATTER THAT AFFECTS ONE OR MORE SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS.

AND CONSULT WITH COUNSEL TO OBTAIN LEGAL ADVICE.

THE CLOSED SESSION SUMMARY AND THE OPEN SESSION INFORMATION SUMMARY CAN BE FOUND ON BOARD DOCS UNDER THIS BOARD MEETING AGENDA DATE.

NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS A SPECIAL ORDER OF BUSINESS, RECOGNIZING TWO FORMER BOARD CHAIRS KATHLEEN CAUSEY AND TARA BOOKER DWYER.

[D. SPECIAL ORDER OF BUSINESS - PORTRAIT UNVEILING OF FORMER BOARD CHAIRS (Ms. Lichter) (6:40 - 6:55 p.m.)]

AT THIS TIME, WE ASK MS. EY TO PLEASE JOIN US IN THE FRONT OF THE DAIS.

UM, DR.

HEISER, PLEASE JOIN US AND MS. HEN WILL BE JOINING US AS A FORMER COLLEAGUE OF MS. EY TESTING.

THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION IS BEING PRESENTED BY THE BOARD OF EDUCATION AND IT READS, WHEREAS KATHLEEN S ZY SERVED AS A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF EDUCATION OF BALTIMORE COUNTY WITH DISTINCTION AND HONOR FROM DECEMBER, 2018 THROUGH NOVEMBER, 2022.

AND WHEREAS SHE PROVIDED EXEMPLARY SERVICE TO THE STUDENTS, PARENTS AND STAFF OF BALTIMORE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS AS CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF EDUCATION FROM DECEMBER, 2018 THROUGH NOVEMBER, 2020.

AND WHEREAS MS. COZY WORKED ACTIVELY AND TIRELESSLY FOR THE ACHIEVEMENT OF ALL BALTIMORE COUNTY STUDENTS WITH FOCUS ON STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT AND SUPPORTING COMMUNITIES THROUGH HER ADVOCACY OF ADEQUATE FACILITIES FOR STUDENTS.

AND WHEREAS SHE HAS SERVED ON THE FOLLOWING BOARD OF EDUCATION COMMITTEES AUDIT, WHERE SHE SERVED AS VICE CHAIR BUDGET, WHERE SHE SERVED AS VICE CHAIR CURRICULUM, LEGISLATIVE AND GOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS, WHERE SHE SERVED AS CHAIR AND POLICY REVIEW, WHERE SHE ALSO SERVED AS CHAIR.

AND WHEREAS MS. ZI AS CHAIR REPRESENTED THE BOARD OF EDUCATION ADMIRABLY AT NUMEROUS STATE AND COUNTY EVENTS.

AND WHEREAS MS. COZE ALWAYS PLACED THE NEEDS OF ALL STUDENTS AS HER FIRST PRIORITY AND HAS COMMITTED HER TIME AND EXPERTISE TO THE BALTIMORE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS COMMUNITY.

NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD OF EDUCATION OF BALTIMORE COUNTY HERE WITH ASSEMBLED IN REGULAR SESSION ON THE 14TH DAY OF JULY IN THE YEAR 2026 RECOGNIZES THE OUTSTANDING CONTRIBUTIONS OF MS. KATHLEEN CAUSEY AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD DOES HERE WITH EXTEND ITS DEEPEST

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APPRECIATION AND GRATITUDE FOR HER DEDICATION, LOYALTY, AND SERVICE, AND FURTHER EXTENDS ITS BEST WISHES FOR GOOD HEALTH, HAPPINESS, AND CONTINUED SUCCESS IN HER FUTURE ENDEAVORS.

FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD ACCEPT RESOLUTION 2027 DASH ZERO ONE IN RECOGNITION OF MS. KATHLEEN COSY.

MAY I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND ESKI.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

THE MOTION HAS PASSED.

TRADITION IS THAT FOLLOWING ONE SERVICE AS CHAIR ON THE BOARD, A PORTRAIT IS DONE AND PLACED WITH THE OTHER FORMER CHAIRS AND PRESIDENTS AT THIS TIME ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD, I WOULD ASK EVERYONE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE LEADERSHIP AND DEDICATION THAT MS. CAUSEY PROVIDED THE BOARD AND SCHOOL SYSTEM DURING HER TENURE AS BOARD CHAIR DR.

HEISER, WOULD YOU MIND HELPING ME? CONGRATULATIONS.

I ALSO BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM COUNCILMAN DAVID MARKS' OFFICE WITH A CITATION.

SO IF SAMANTHA WALTERS WOULD LIKE TO COME UP.

UM, COUNCILMAN MARKS, UM, ASKED ME TO, UH, LET YOU KNOW THAT HE REGRETS THAT HE COULD, UH, NOT BE HERE THIS EVENING AS HE'S ATTENDING A PUBLIC SAFETY TOWN HALL MEETING WITH THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE.

SO HE, HE, YOU KNOW, IS VERY SORRY THAT HE COULDN'T ATTEND.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

SO WE, UM, IT IS MY HONOR TO PRESENT THIS RESOLUTION TO YOU FROM BALTIMORE COUNTY, BALTIMORE COUNTY COUNCIL RESOLUTION, BE IT HEREBY KNOWN TO ALL THAT THE HONORABLE NINO MANGIONE AND THE HONORABLE DAVID MARKS ON BEHALF OF THE BALTIMORE COUNTY COUNCIL OFFER SINCERE SINCES CONGRATULATIONS TO KATHLEEN EY AND RECOGNITION OF HER DISTINGUISHED AND DEDICATED SERVICE.

AS CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF EDUCATION, THE COUNCIL HEREBY EXTENDS ITS RESPECT, APPRECIATION, AND SINCERE CONGRATULATIONS TO KATHLEEN EY AND RECOGNITION OF HER STRONG LEADERSHIP AND COMMITMENT TO EDUCATION.

KATHLEEN HAS BEEN WELL RESPECTED, PROFESSIONAL AND HER DEDICATION, LEADERSHIP, AND EXCEPTIONAL WORK ETHIC HAVE BEEN EVIDENT IN EVERY FACET OF HER SERVICE TO THE BOARD OF EDUCATION.

THE COUNCIL JOINS WITH THOSE ASSEMBLED ON TUESDAY, JULY 14TH, 2026 AT THE GREENWOOD CAMPUS AT 69 0 1 NORTH CHARLES STREET IN TOWSON FOR THE PORTRAIT UNVEILING CEREMONY TO HONOR KATHLEEN CAUSEY FOR HER SERVICE AND UNWAVERING COMMITMENT AS SHE LEAVES BALTIMORE COUNTY WITH A LEGACY OF EXCELLENCE AND EDUCATION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

HOW ABOUT, UM, THE, UH, YEAH, HOW ABOUT EACH SIDE? HOW ABOUT WE GET TWO ON EACH SIDE? IS THAT, IS THAT OKAY? OH, OKAY.

WE'RE TAKING A PICTURE OF THE PICTURE.

WE WILL NOW BE CALLING MS. BOOKER DWYER.

OH, WE'RE GONNA MAKE A SWITCHEROO AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO ASK MS. BOOKER DWIER TO COME UP TO THE TWO.

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ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE GOOD.

MS. BOOKER DWYER YOUR TURN.

YOU WANNA COME BACK? DR.

HEISER? OKAY.

THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION IS BEING PRESENTED BY THE BOARD OF EDUCATION AND IT READS, WHEREAS TIERRA BOOKER DWYER SERVED AS A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF EDUCATION OF BALTIMORE COUNTY WITH DISTINCTION AND HONOR FROM DECEMBER.

YOU, YOU GO, YOU DO IT FROM DECEMBER, 2022 THROUGH JULY, 2025.

AND WHEREAS SHE PROVIDED EXEMPLARY SERVICE TO THE STUDENTS, PARENTS AND STAFF OF BALTIMORE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS AS CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF EDUCATION FROM DECEMBER, 2023 THROUGH NOVEMBER, 2024.

AND WHEREAS MS. BOOKER DWYER WORKED ACTIVELY AND TIRELESSLY FOR THE ACHIEVEMENT OF ALL BALTIMORE COUNTY STUDENTS WITH FOCUS ON STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT AND SUPPORTING COMMUNITIES THROUGH HER LEGISLATIVE ENDEAVORS.

AND WHEREAS SHE SERVED ON THE FOLLOWING BOARD OF EDUCATION COMMITTEES, THE BUDGET COMMITTEE, CURRICULUM COMMITTEE, LEGISLATIVE AND GOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS COMMITTEE, WHERE SHE SERVED AS CHAIR AND THE OF THE AUDIT COMMITTEE.

AND WHERE SHE SERVED AS CHAIR TWO COMMITTEES, SHE REPRESENTED THE BOARD OF EDUCATION OF BALTIMORE COUNTY ON THE MARYLAND ASSOCIATION OF BOARDS OF EDUCATION'S LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE AND THE FEDERAL RELATIONS NETWORK COMMITTEE.

AND WHEREAS MS. BOOKER DWYER AS CHAIR REPRESENTED THE BOARD OF EDUCATION ADMIRABLY AT NUMEROUS STATE AND COUNTY EVENTS.

AND WHEREAS MS. BOOKER DWYER ALWAYS PLACED THE NEEDS OF ALL STUDENTS AS HER FIRST PRIORITY AND HAS COMMITTED HER TIME AND EXPERTISE TO THE BALTIMORE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS COMMUNITY NOW FOR BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD OF EDUCATION OF BALTIMORE COUNTY HERE WITH ASSEMBLED IN REGULAR SESSION ON THE 14TH DAY OF JULY IN THE YEAR 2 20 26, RECOGNIZES THE OUTSTANDING CONTRIBUTIONS OF MS. TIERRA BOOKER DWYER AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD DOES HERE WITHIN EXTEND ITS DEEPEST APPRECIATION AND GRATITUDE FOR HER DEDICATION, LOYALTY, AND SERVICE, AND FURTHER EXTENDS AND SPENT BEST WISHES FOR GOOD HEALTH, HAPPINESS, AND CONTINUED SUCCESS IN HER FUTURE ENDEAVORS.

THAT WAS THE END.

SO, , RIGHT? SORRY.

FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD ACCEPT RESOLUTION 2027 DASH ZERO TWO IN RECOGNITION OF MS. TIERRA BOOKER DWYER.

MAY I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND DOKI.

NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS SPECIAL ORDER OF BUSINESS VICE CHAIR ELECTIONS.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AND THE MOTION HAS PASSED.

AND AGAIN, AT THIS TIME, ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD, I WOULD ASK EVERYONE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE LEADERSHIP AND DEDICATION THAT MS. BOOKER DWYER PROVIDED THE BOARD AND THE SCHOOL SYSTEM DURING HER, DURING HER TENURE AS BOARD CHAIR.

SO THANK YOU.

LET'S, THIS IS MY MOM.

SHE WORKS FOR BALTIMORE COUNTY.

THIS IS MY HUSBAND WHO SUPPORTS US AND IS TRACY EVERYTHING RIGHT?

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SORRY.

[E. ADDED: SPECIAL ORDER OF BUSINESS - VICE CHAIR ELECTIONS (Ms. Lichter)]

SO FIRST WE'LL BEGIN WITH NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIR.

SO AT THIS TIME, ARE THERE ANY NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIR MR. MCMILLIAN? I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE CHRISTINA HUMPHREY.

ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? OKAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE MR. EMERY YOUNG FOR VICE CHAIR.

ARE THERE ANY OTHERS? LET ME JUST CHECK TEAMS. MS. FONG, ANY EVENING? I'D LIKE TO, OOPS, I NEED TO TURN OFF THE BROADCAST.

SORRY.

HOLD ON, PLEASE.

HERE WE GO.

I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE ACTUALLY OUR STUDENT MEMBER OF THE BOARD, MS. JI.

UM, AND I SHOULD HAVE ASKED MS. HUMPHREY, DO YOU ACCEPT THE NOMINATION? MAY I MAKE A COMMENT BEFORE I RESPOND? SURE.

UM, I DO THINK THAT I AM, I SHOULD BE A LEADER IN A LEADER PO LEADERSHIP POSITION ON THIS BOARD.

I THINK I SHOULD HAVE BEEN FOR A WHILE AND I'M USUALLY HUMBLE, BUT I'M NOT GONNA BE HUMBLE ABOUT THAT RIGHT NOW.

AND THE REASON IS BECAUSE I, AS A LEADER, WHEN I THINK OF MYSELF AS A LEADER, IT'S NOT AS BEING IN THE FRONT.

IT'S RECOGNIZING TALENT ON THIS BOARD, RECOGNIZING THE DIFFERENCES ON THIS BOARD, AND ENCOURAG ENCOURAGING US AS A BOARD TO USE THOSE DIFFERENCES TO MAKE US STRONGER AS A BOARD.

UM, MY VOTES AS A BOARD MEMBER ARE UNPREDICTABLE.

AND MY VOTING RECORD REVEALS, IF YOU LOOK INTO IT, THAT I HAVE BEEN THE MOST INDEPENDENT BOARD MEMBER ON THIS BOARD WITH THE EXCEPTIONAL ORTHO THREE BOARD NEW BOARD MEMBERS, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW THEIR VOTING HISTORY QUITE YET.

UM, THAT I THINK THAT INDEPENDENCE IS ESSENTIAL FOR BOARD LEADERSHIP SO THAT ALL DIFFERING VOICES ARE HEARD.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, A LEADER ALSO MAKES DECISIONS THAT ARE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE BOARD AND ALSO OF OUR SYSTEM, WHICH IN TURN IS THE BEST DECISION FOR OUR STUDENTS.

AND AT THIS TIME AND FOR AT LEAST THE NEXT FIVE MONTHS, UM, I THINK THAT IN OUR BEST INTEREST, I WOULD DECLINE THE VICE CHAIR ROLE AND ENCOURAGE AND NOMINATE MR. YOUNG, ENCOURAGE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS TO SUPPORT MR. YOUNG.

THANK YOU, MS. HUMPHREY.

MR. YOUNG, DO YOU ACCEPT THE NOMINATION? YES.

MR. JAB BJI, DO YOU ACCEPT THE NOMINATION? YES.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS ARE OKAY.

UM, MS. FONG, DO YOU WANNA, UM, SPEAK TO YOUR NOMINATION? GOOD EVENING.

SO, UM, WITH THE TIMING AND THE WAY THAT THINGS HAVE HAPPENED, THE MAS CHAIR AT THIS POINT WOULD EXIST THROUGH, UM, THE TENURE WOULD EXIST THROUGH DECEMBER OF THIS YEAR.

AND PREVIOUSLY, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT CONSIDERING OUR STUDENT MEMBERS FOR THE BOARD, THE TIMING DIDN'T LINE UP.

UM, BECAUSE THE BOARD MEMBER, THE STUDENT BOARD MEMBER DOESN'T START UNTIL JULY AND IT WOULD END IN JULY.

UM, AND THE TERM HAS TO GO THROUGH DECEMBER, WHICH WILL BE BEYOND.

SO THIS PROVIDES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY PUT A STUDENT MEMBER OF THE BOARD IN LEADERSHIP.

UM, I THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, UM, TO CONTINUE TO HEAR OUR STUDENT VOICE AND, UM, IF THERE'S ANY CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, WHAT THE STUDENT MEMBER CAN OR CANNOT VOTE ON, THAT'S ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF BECAUSE WE KNOW THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT THE STUDENT MEMBER OF THE BOARD CAN'T VOTE ON.

SO THAT DOESN'T CHANGE WHETHER OR NOT THE PERSON IS IN A LEADERSHIP POSITION OR NOT.

UM, BUT I JUST THINK IT AFFORDS US A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO HAVE A STUDENT MEMBER OF OUR BOARD IN LEADERSHIP POSITIONS.

I WILL SPEAK TO THE NOMINATION OF MR. YOUNG.

UM, I MADE THAT NOMINATION BASED ON THE WORK THAT HE HAS DONE ON THE BOARD.

UM, HE STEPPED IN FOR A LOT OF, UM, THE VACANCIES AND COMMITTEES AND COMMITTEE CHAIRS OVER THE PAST YEAR.

HE'S ALSO BEEN, UM, HAS REACHED OUT TO ME FREQUENTLY AS A THOUGHT PARTNER, UM, AS I HAVE NAVIGATED THE ROLE OF CHAIRSHIP, UM, BY MYSELF.

HE'S HIGHLY VISIBLE AS A BOARD MEMBER, ATTENDING EVENTS, UM, SWEARING INS, PRESS CONFERENCES, HEARINGS, UM, AND HE APPROACHES THE WORK FOR THE GOOD OF THE ENTIRE BCPS, UM, COMMUNITY, WHICH IS WHY I MADE THAT NOMINATION.

AT THIS POINT, WE WILL DO AN, UM, ROLL CALL, VOTES AND MEMBER BOARD

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MEMBERS.

YOU MAY VOTE MORE THAN ONCE IF YOU ARE IN SUPPORT OF THAT CANDIDATE FOR VICE CHAIR.

SO FIRST, UM, MR. I'M SORRY, MS. HEN.

UM, MAY I SPEAK TO ONE OF THE NOMINATIONS SURE.

BEFORE WE VOTE? UM, SO WHILE I SUPPORT BOTH CANDIDATES, I HAVE CONCERN ABOUT THE STUDENT MEMBER, NOT PARTICULARLY MS. JI, BUT IN GENERAL, UM, THE STUDENT MEMBER SERVING IN AN OFFICER POSITION FOR THE, UM, DEMANDS OF THE OFFICER ROLE AND THE EVENTS THAT YOU MENTIONED, CHAIR LICHTER, AND THE COMMITMENTS REQUIRED OF SCHOOL AND PUTTING THE ACADEMIC DEMANDS FIRST AND PRIORITIZING THOSE ABOVE THE DEMANDS OF AN OFFICER ROLE.

SO WHILE MY VOTE, UM, MAY BE NEGATIVE TOWARDS PROMOTING A STUDENT MEMBER OF THE BOARD TO THAT ROLE, IT IN NO WAY REFLECTS MY LACK OF CONFIDENCE IN MS. DIJE, BUT RATHER MY CONCERN FOR THE DEMANDS, HER ACADEMIC DE THE ACADEMIC DEMANDS OF THE STUDENT MEMBER OR THE BOARD, NOT, UM, ANY WAY REFLECT MY CONFIDENCE IN MR. BGI.

EVERYTHING'S STARTING OVER.

MR. DO ROMANOWSKI.

I KIND OF WANTED TO ECHO A LITTLE BIT OF THAT.

'CAUSE, UM, WHILE I WOULD SUPPORT BOTH OF THEM, I'M, JANE HAS BEEN DOING THIS BY HERSELF.

I MEAN, MS. ER HAS BEEN DOING THIS BY HERSELF FOR A WHILE, AND SHE COULD JANE TOO.

SORRY, , JANE AND MS. LATER BEEN A PAIR.

UH, SO I, I'M JUST, UM, LOOKING OUT FOR OUR BOARD MEMBER.

I, I, I THINK YOU WOULD DO A GREAT JOB AND IT WOULD BE A GREAT EXPERIENCE.

I'M JUST WITH A BRAND NEW SUPERINTENDENT.

I, I THINK THAT, UM, THAT'S THE ONLY REASON.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHETHER I, WHETHER I THINK YOU CAN DO THE JOB OR NOT.

IT'S JUST MORE MS. LISTER MIGHT NEED SOMEONE WITH THAT'S READY TO JUMP IN RIGHT NOW THAT SHE DOESN'T HAVE TO SHOW THE ROPES.

MS. FONG.

IS YOUR HAND UP TO MAKE ANOTHER COMMENT? IT IS.

UM, JUST AGAIN, REMINDING THAT EVERYTHING THAT WE DO, WE TALK ABOUT THAT IT AFFECTS STUDENTS FIRST AND MOST DIRECTLY.

UM, SO THIS IS, BUT TYPICALLY WITH THE STUDENT PERSPECTIVE, IT HAS TO BE FILTERED THROUGH WHAT THE ADULTS ARE DESCRIBING OR WHAT THE ADULTS NEED.

SO AGAIN, HAVING THAT STUDENT AND BOARD LEADERSHIP, IT CAN CLOSE THAT GAP IN A WAY.

AND ALSO TO, RIGHT, WE HAVE A NEW SUPERINTENDENT, AND SO IT'S, AS HE IS GETTING TO LEARN OUR DISTRICT AND HE HEARS FROM THE ADULTS, THIS IS ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY FROM, FOR HIM TO HEAR FIRSTHAND FROM OUR STUDENTS AND WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, UM, AND WHAT THEIR PERSPECTIVES ARE AS WELL.

THANK YOU, MR. MCMILLION.

I THINK MS. FONGS MADE SOME EXCELLENT POINTS ABOUT THE TIMING, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT JULY TO DECEMBER.

UH, IT'S NOT JANUARY, FEBRUARY, MARCH, APRIL, IN HER SENIOR YEAR.

UH, I THINK IT'S AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY TO GET A STUDENT IN THAT POSITION TO LET THEM EXPERIENCE THAT AND LET, UH, AND, AND GIVE SOME BOOST TO OTHER STUDENTS THAT ARE OUT THERE, UH, BY SEEING HER IN THAT ROLE.

SO I'M IN FAVOR OF THAT.

MS. KY, DID YOU WANNA SAY THANK YOU? I JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, MS. LICHTER, SINCE YOU HAVE BEEN IN THIS ROLE, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE DEMANDS AND, AND YOU KNOW, HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT A POTENTIAL STUDENT MEMBER IN THAT ROLE.

I MEAN, BEING VICE CHAIR OR CHAIR, YOU MAKE THE COMMITMENT THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE AND YOU DO WHAT YOU CAN DO AND WANNA DO.

AND I DO KNOW THE AP CLASSES THAT YOU ARE TAKING AND, AND THE, YOUR WORKLOAD.

I, I WOULD BE CONCERNED, UM, AS FAR AS THE AMOUNT OF TIME THIS REQUIRES, AND THAT REQUIRES, UM, I DO UNDERSTAND THE, UM, I DO UNDERSTAND THE REASON BEHIND A STUDENT BOARD MEMBER, AND I DO THINK THERE IS SOME VALIDITY IN THAT ALSO.

UM, BUT I DO WORRY ABOUT, AS MS. HENNA AND MS. NOKI SPOKE ABOUT THE TIME COMMITMENT, UM, AND I WOULDN'T, AND SOME OF THE PIECES ARE LOGISTICAL AND, AND PROCEDURAL, LIKE, AND I DON'T, WOULDN'T WANNA PULL YOU AWAY FROM OTHER THINGS TO DO WITH SOME OF THOSE PIECES.

SO THAT'S MY OFF THE CUFF THINKING.

ANYONE ELSE? MR. YEAH, I WOULD, I AGREE, UH, WITH, UH, MR. MCNO THAT, UH, MR. FRIEND PROBABLY MADE A LOT OF, UH, REALLY IMPORTANT, UH, POINTS.

UM, I WOULD JUST SPEAK TO, TO MR. BJI.

UM, I WAS IN BOARD ORIENTATION, UH, WITH HER.

UM, AND I JUST REMEMBER SITTING THERE AND THINKING SHE ASKED A LOT OF QUESTIONS, , AND, UH, SHE DID, BUT I ALL DAY, UH, AND, BUT NOT A BAD ONE ALL DAY.

UH, SO I WAS VERY IMPRESSED.

I, I THINK SHE WOULD, UH, BE EXCELLENT.

I THINK, UH, I AGREE WITH MR. ILIAN.

THAT'S A UNIQUE TIMING AND MAYBE IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE.

FABULOUS STUDENT MEMBERS WE HAVE HAD.

ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, MS. HEN ONE FINAL BRIEF COMMENT.

I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD, UM, UNDERESTIMATE THE ROLE OF THE STUDENT MEMBER OF THE BOARD EITHER.

AND THAT HAS BEEN ELEVATED BY THE

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UM, IN THE 10 YEARS THAT I'VE SERVED ON THE BOARD, I'VE BEEN ENVIOUS OF THAT POSITION MULTIPLE TIMES BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY'VE BROUGHT TO IT AND THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT THEY'VE CREATED FOR THEMSELVES.

WE'VE, WE'VE HEARD COLLEAGUES SAY THAT IT'S WHAT YOU AND CHAIR LIRA SAID.

IT'S WHAT YOU BRING TO IT.

I THINK THE SAME HOLDS TRUE FOR THE STUDENT MEMBER POSITION AND FROM HAVING A REPORT AT EVERY BOARD MEETING TO GETTING TO WORK WITH OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM AND CREATING THAT DIRECT LINE OF COMMUNICATION TO OUR STUDENTS, TO WORKING WITH OUR SUPERINTENDENT DIRECTLY AND SETTING PRIORITIES OF WHAT YOU WANNA ACCOMPLISH DURING YOUR TERM, UM, THAT VERY MUCH IS A LEADERSHIP ROLE, NO LESS THAN AN OFFICER ON THIS BOARD.

UM, I VIEW IT AS ONE AND THE SAME.

SO REGARDLESS OF THE OUTCOME OF THIS ELECTION, I, I THINK THAT THAT IS A POSITION THAT IS WHAT YOU MAKE OF IT.

MR. FITZPATRICK? I WOULD ABSTAIN.

MAY HAVE A ROLL CALL.

VOTE MS. GOVER FOR THE NOMINATION OF MR. YOUNG FOR VICE CHAIR.

SAVOY? I, I DIDN'T HEAR THE QUESTION.

IT'S FOR THE NOMINATION OF MR. YOUNG AS VICE CHAIR.

WE'LL NOW TAKE ROLL CALL.

VOTE FOR WHAT WE DON'T PASS.

OKAY? OKAY.

THANK YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS TO MR. YOUNG ON VICE CHAIR, BUT WE'LL HAVE PLENTY FOR YOU TO DO MR. BJI.

NO WORRIES.

AND IF YOU WANT MORE, JUST ASK US.

BUT AS MS. HEN SAID, YOU GETTING INTO THE SCHOOLS AND VISITING OUR STUDENTS AND REALLY LISTENING TO THEM IS, IS HUGE.

SO WE'RE NOW GONNA PLAY MUSICAL CHAIRS FOR A SECOND.

SO DIDN'T GET THIS SEAT WARM, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE MR. YOUNG MOVE HERE.

I WANTED THAT.

YOU WANTED THAT.

ANYWAY, WELL SEE THINGS WORK.

THINGS DO WORK OUT IN THE END.

ON THE AGENDA IS PERSONNEL MATTERS.

WHILE THAT IS TAKING PLACE, THE NEXT ITEM

[F. NEW BUSINESS - PERSONNEL MATTERS (Mr. McCall) (6:55 - 7:00 p.m.)]

AND FOR THAT, I CALL ON MR. MCCALL.

MS. THORNTON, I JUST WANTED TO CONGRATULATE, UM, MR. YOUNG, CONGRATULATIONS.

CHAIR LICHTER, VICE CHAIR, YOUNG SUPERINTENDENT, DR.

HEISER AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, LIKE THE BOARD'S CONSENT FOR THE FOLLOWING PERSONNEL MATTERS.

TONIGHT WE HAVE RETIREMENTS, RESIGNATIONS, AND LEAVES.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PERSONAL MATTERS AS PRESENTED IN EXHIBIT? WHOOPS, ONE THROUGH THREE.

SO MOVED.

DOKI.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE PLEASE.

THANK YOU MR. MCCALL.

ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ADMINISTRATIVE APPOINTMENTS.

THE NEXT

[G. NEW BUSINESS - ADMINISTRATIVE APPOINTMENTS (Dr. Heiser) (7:00 - 7:05 p.m.)]

AND FOR THAT I CALL HIM DR.

THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR LICHTER, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

I'M BRINGING FORWARD THE FOLLOWING ADMINISTRATIVE APPOINTMENTS FOR YOUR APPROVAL.

SENIOR AUDITOR, OFFICE OF INTERNAL AUDIT COORDINATOR, MATHEMATICS, DEPARTMENT OF SCIENCE, TECHNOLOGY, ENGINEERING AND MATHEMATICS.

PRINCIPAL SUSSEX ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND SPECIALIST SCHOOL GRANT PROGRAMS. OFFICE OF TITLE ONE.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ADMINISTRATIVE APPOINTMENTS AS PRESENTED IN EXHIBIT G ONE? SO MOVED.

ESKY.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND HEN.

SECOND SAVOY.

ANY DISCUSSION? MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE PLEASE.

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ONCE AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS, KIMBERLY.

I BELIEVE ALL THESE APPOINTEES ARE HERE WITH US, AND SO, UM, I'LL TAKE THEM ONE BY ONE.

I GET THE EXCITING PART TONIGHT FOR THAT.

SO, UM, WITH THAT, KIMBERLY BURTON KY IS ATTENDING THIS EVENING WITH HER HUSBAND TIM, AND DAUGHTER PHOENIX, WHO'S A FORMER BCPS STUDENT.

AND AGAIN, SHE IS BEING APPOINTED AS THE COORDINATOR OF MATHEMATICS IN THE DEPARTMENT, UM, OF SCIENCE, TECHNOLOGY, ENGINEERING, AND MATHEMATICS.

WITH OVER 27 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, PAMELA'S EXPERIENCE INCLUDES MATHEMATICS TEACHER AT EASTERN TECHNICAL HIGH SCHOOL.

AND WE ALSO HAVE, UH, PAMELA OGO IS ATTENDING THIS EVENING WITH HER HUSBAND OMA, AND IS BEING APPOINTED AS THE SENIOR AUDITOR IN THE OFFICE OF INTERNAL AUDIT WITH OVER 20 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, HER EXPERIENCE INCLUDES ASSURANCE AND ADVISORY, SENIOR ASSISTANT WITH DELOITTE AND TOUCH STAFF AUDITOR AT ARONSON AND COMPANY AND RUBINO AND MCGEE, SENIOR INTERNAL AUDITOR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND MEDICAL SYSTEM INTERNAL AUDIT SUPERVISOR AT SUNRISE, SENIOR LIVING AND LEAD INTERNAL AUDITOR WITH ERNO COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND FANNIE MAE.

CONGRATULATIONS AND WELCOME TO BCPS.

NEXT IS MOLLY WA IS ATTENDING THIS EVENING WITH HER FIANCE, BEN LANCER.

CONGRATULATIONS BEING APPOINTED AS SPECIALISTS SCHOOL GRANT PROGRAMS IN THE OFFICE OF TITLE ONE WITH ALMOST 10 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, HER EXPERIENCE INCLUDES ELEMENTARY CLASSROOM TEACHER AND RESOURCE TEACHER AT HARTFORD HILLS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

CONGRATULATIONS, MOLLY.

AND LAST, BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST, SAMANTHA NIK IS ATTENDING THIS EVENING WITH HER HUSBAND, TODD AND DAUGHTER BROOKE, FORMER STUDENT AT HEREFORD MIDDLE SCHOOL.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US BEING APPOINTED AS THE PRINCIPAL AT SUSSEX ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WITH 22 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.

IT INCLUDES SPECIAL EDUCATION TEACHER AT PINEWOOD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, ELEMENTARY CLASSROOM TEACHER AT REISTERSTOWN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, TEACHER MENTOR AT RIVERVIEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AND HALSTEAD ACADEMY RESOURCE TEACHER IN THE OFFICE OF STAFF RELATIONS AND EMPLOYEE PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT, AND ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL AT CROMWELL VALLEY ELEMENTARY REGIONAL MAGNET, AND WARREN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

CONGRATULATIONS AGAINST ME.

THANK YOU, DR.

HEISER, AND CONGRATULATIONS TO EVERYONE.

OUR

[H. PUBLIC COMMENT (7:05 - 7:30 p.m.)]

NEXT ITEM IS PUBLIC COMMENT.

THIS IS ONE OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THE BOARD PROVIDES TO HEAR THE VIEWS AND RECEIVE THE ADVICE OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

IF NOT SELECTED TO ADDRESS THE BOARD, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY SUBMIT THEIR COMMENTS TO THE BOARD MEMBERS VIA EMAIL@BOEATBCPS.ORG.

THE BALTIMORE COUNTY POLICE DEPARTMENT'S HOMELAND SECURITY UNIT AND OFFICE OF SCHOOL SAFETY HAS RECOMMENDED SAFETY AND SECURITY PROTOCOLS, WHICH ARE POSTED IN THE BOARDROOM AND AVAILABLE IN BOARD DOCS AND ON THE BOARD'S PARTICIPATION BY PUBLIC WEBSITE.

WHILE WE ENCOURAGE PUBLIC INPUT ON POLICY PROGRAMS AND PRACTICES WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THIS BOARD AND THIS SCHOOL SYSTEM, THIS IS NOT THE PROPER FORM TO ADDRESS SPECIFIC STUDENT OR EMPLOYEE MATTERS OR TO COMMENT ON MATTERS THAT DO NOT RELATE TO PUBLIC EDUCATION IN BALTIMORE COUNTY.

INAPPROPRIATE PERSONAL REMARKS OR OTHER BEHAVIORS SUCH AS LANGUAGE THAT PROMOTES VIOLENCE AGAINST A-B-C-P-S EMPLOYEE OR THAT DISRUPTS OR INTERFERES WITH THE CONDUCT OF THIS MEETING ARE OUT OF ORDER AND WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.

PERSONS WHO OTHERWISE DISRUPT OR DISTURB THIS MEETING WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE THEIR REMARKS AND WILL BE ESCORTED FROM THE MEETING.

PLEASE OBSERVE THE THREE MINUTE CLOCK, WHICH WILL LET YOU KNOW WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP.

THE MICROPHONE WILL BE TURNED OFF AT THE END OF YOUR TIME OR PRIOR TO THAT TIME AT THE DISCRETION OF THE BOARD CHAIR.

WE WILL BEGIN WITH OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM AFFILIATED GROUPS AND OUR FIRST SPEAKER, BUT I DID SEE HER IS RAMONA.

RAMONA BA.

DID SHE? I SAW HER WALK.

ON BEHALF OF THE PTA COUNCIL OF BALTIMORE COUNTY, THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

OKAY, I'M GONNA READ, I'M GONNA

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READ THIS TIME.

GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR, SUPERINTENDENT HEISER, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

MY NAME IS RAMONA BASILIO AND I'M HERE TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF THE PTA COUNCIL OF BALTIMORE COUNTY.

WELCOME DR.

HEISER AND NEW MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.

OUR MISSION IS TO MAKE EVERY CHILD'S POTENTIAL A REALITY BY ENGAGING AND EMPOWERING FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES TO ADVOCATE.

THIS YEAR, WE ARE LAUNCHING OUR PTA ACTIVATE PTA ACTIVATE IS PART OF OUR LEGISLATION AND ADVOCACY SUBCOMMITTEE.

WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH PT ACTIVATE IS ESCALATING ISSUES AND TOPICS THAT ARE EMERGING FROM OUR 140 MEMBERS, FROM OUR PARENTS, AND FROM OUR PARTNERS, AND SOME OF YOU IN THIS, IN THIS ROOM.

THE FIRST ISSUE THAT HAS COME UP OVER THE PAST SEVERAL WEEKS, ALTHOUGH IT'S BEEN A LONGSTANDING CONCERN, HAS TO DO ENG WITH ENGAGEMENT.

HEISER, WE KNOW ENGAGEMENT IS ONE OF YOUR PILLARS AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU AND HAVING CONVERSATIONS LATER ON THIS WEEK.

ANOTHER MAJOR ISSUE, WHICH IS A RESURFACED, HAS TO DO WITH SCREEN TIME.

WE COMMIT, WE COMMEND THE ADMINISTRATION FOR SCALING BACK ONE-TO-ONE DEVICE, TAKE HOME PRIVILEGES FOR ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS.

IT WAS A VICTORY FOR COMMON FOR COMMON SENSE.

HOWEVER, A MAJOR FUNDING SHIFT OUT OF WASHINGTON MEANS OUR WORK IS FAR FROM FINISHED SHORT VERSION.

THE FCC IS ACTIVELY REVIEWING THE FEDERAL, A PROGRAM WITH PLANS TO NARROW AND RESTRICT $3 BILLION IN INTERNET SUBSIDIES.

THIS IS A CONCERN OVER SCREEN TIME AND EXCESSIVE MEDIA USE.

WE BELIEVE THAT OUR DISTRICT WILL BE FORCED TO ABSORB MASSIVE UTILITY COSTS OUT OF OUR OWN POCKET.

WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT? WE CANNOT AFFORD A DOWN TO DOUBLE DOWN ON ALL DIGITAL FRAMEWORKS WHEN FEDERAL FUNDING IS PULLING BACK.

TO BE ABSOLUTELY CLEAR, THE PTA COUNCIL FIRMLY BELIEVES OUR STUDENTS MUST HAVE ACCESS TO INTERNET FOR ESSENTIAL EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES, LIKE TARGETED RESEARCH AND DIGITAL LITERACY.

BUT THERE IS A DA, A VAST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN USING THE INTERNET AS A RESOURCE AND LETTING AUTOMATED SOFTWARE REPLACE TEACHERS TO PROTECT OUR BUDGET FROM IN PENDING FEDERAL CUTS AND TO SAVE OUT CLASSROOMS FROM DIGITAL DISTRACTIONS.

PTA IS ASKING FOR FOUR THINGS, ELIMINATE UNPROVEN, UNPROVEN DIGITAL APPS, RECONVENE THE CABINET LEVEL SOCIAL MEDIA WORK GROUP.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MARY CROW FROM NOTTINGHAM PARENT TEACHER ORGANIZATION.

I BELIEVE SHE'S SPEAKING VIRTUALLY.

HI.

ARE YOU ABLE TO HEAR ME? YES.

BCPS ORIGINALLY INDICATED

GOOD EVENING, CHAIR WHITTER, DR.

HEISER AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE AND WELCOME DR.

HEISER ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND THE NOTTINGHAM PTO WITH WHICH ASKED ME TO REPRESENT THEM HERE TONIGHT.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU AND WE'RE ENCOURAGED BY YOUR COMMENTS DURING THE FINALIST FORUM ABOUT SECURING NEEDED RESOURCES AND WORKING COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE COMMUNITY.

OUR COMMUNITY HAS ATTENDED SEVERAL BOARD MEETINGS THIS YEAR, ASKING FOR SUPPORTS TO BE RESTORED TO NOTTINGHAM STUDENTS, AN ISSUE WHICH WE HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH BCPS LEADERSHIP ON SINCE NOVEMBER, 2024.

THIS APRIL, THE BOARD UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED A MOTION DIRECTING DR. ROGERS TO IMMEDIATELY TAKE ALL ACTIONS NECESSARY TO SUPPORT THE DESIGNATION OF NOTTINGHAM AS A LOW PERFORMING SCHOOL OR LPS AND A COMMUNITY SCHOOL BY NO LATER THAN JULY 1ST, 2026.

WE LATER RECEIVED AN UPDATE ON COMMUNITY SCHOOLS, BUT NOT ON THE LPS DESIGNATION.

SINCE THIS DEADLINE HAS SINCE PASSED, WE ARE HOPING TO RECEIVE THAT UPDATE TONIGHT.

I ALSO WANNA CLARIFY AN IMPORTANT POINT.

DURING THE BOARD'S APRIL DISCUSSION, MEMBERS WERE TOLD THAT MSDE REQUIRES TWO YEARS OF QUALIFYING DATA UNDER ITS STANDARD POLICY TO AWARD LPS STATUS.

WHILE THAT IS TRUE, BCBS DID NOT PROVIDE THE ADDITIONAL CONTEXT THAT MSD HAD ALSO COMMUNICATED AN ALTERNATE PROCESS FOR EARLIER CONSIDERATION IN UNIQUE SITUATIONS LIKE NOTTINGHAMS, AN OPTION THAT BCPS HAS BEEN AWARE OF FOR OVER A YEAR.

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ITS INTENT TO SUBMIT THIS REQUEST, BUT AFTER DELAYING SEVERAL TIMES, INFORMED OUR UNION PRESIDENT THIS FEBRUARY THAT THEY NO LONGER PLANNED TO DO SO, AND GAVE NO EXPLANATION AS TO WHY OUR COMMUNITY WAS DISAPPOINTED THAT THE BOARD WAS NOT PROVIDED THIS INFORMATION ABOUT THE STEPS MSDE HAD ALREADY IDENTIFIED AS NECESSARY FOR EARLY LPS CONSIDERATION.

HOWEVER, WE ARE HOPEFUL THAT YOUR MOTION WAS HONORED THAT THE FORMAL LETTER WAS SUBMITTED AND THAT DR. ROGERS PROVIDED DOCUMENTATION TO THE BOARD AS SHE STATED SHE WOULD.

TONIGHT WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR A CLEAR UPDATE ON THE FOLLOWING.

FIRST, HAS BCPS SUBMITTED THE SUPERINTENDENT'S LETTER TO MSDE REQUESTING THAT NOTTINGHAM BE CONSIDERED FOR LOW PERFORMING SCHOOL DESIGNATION FOR THE 26 27 SCHOOL YEAR? SECOND, AS THE BOARD RECEIVED COPIES OF THE FORMAL REQUESTS SUBMITTED BY BCPS REGARDING BOTH LPS AND COMMUNITY SCHOOLS DESIGNATION.

AND FINALLY, IF THE FORUM, OR SORRY IF THE FORMAL REQUEST FOR LPS DESIGNATION HAS NOT BEEN SENT, WE URGE THE BOARD TO REVISE THE PREVIOUS MOTION TO SPECIFICALLY DIRECT BCPS TO SUBMIT THAT LETTER WITH THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION ALREADY PROVIDED NO LATER THAN JULY 31ST, SO MSDE CAN BEGIN REVIEWING NOTTINGHAM'S ELIGIBILITY BEFORE THE NEW SCHOOL YEAR BEGINS.

THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION OF THIS MATTER.

OUR NEXT CATEGORY ARE UNIONS, AND OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS CHARLENE BANK REPRESENTING CASE.

AND I BELIEVE A CONGRATULATIONS IN THIS ORDER ON YOUR NEW POSITION WITH CASE.

I'M BRINGING, I'M BRINGING A FRIEND TO SIT NEXT.

YOU'RE PHONING A FRIEND.

MR. PARKER, I'M NOT TALKING.

HE'S, HE'S JUST A FRIEND.

GOOD EVENING, CHAIR LICHTER, SUPERINTENDENT DR.

HEISER AND BOARD MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS CHARLENE BANKEY AND I'M HAPPY TO BE BACK BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING HAVING TRANSITION THIS MONTH INTO THE ROLE OF EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF CASE.

OUR DEAR FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE BILLY BURKE HAS RETIRED AFTER HAVING PROUDLY SERVING OUR CASE MEMBERSHIP FOR FIVE YEARS.

WE ARE GRATEFUL THAT HE HAS AGREED TO REMAIN AVAILABLE TO US AS A CONSULTANT WHENEVER WE NEED HIS GUIDANCE AND INSIGHT.

I AM EXCITED TO INTRODUCE TO YOU A FAMILIAR FACE JOINING ME AS OUR NEW DIRECTOR OF CASE MIKE PARKER.

MANY OF YOU KNOW MIKE AS A HIGHLY RESPECTED BCPS EDUCATOR AND LEADER WHO RECENTLY RETIRED AFTER 36 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THIS DISTRICT, INCLUDING 15 AS A SCHOOL PRINCIPAL.

MIKE AND I ARE HONORED TO SERVE TOGETHER AS THE NEW LEADERSHIP TEAM OF CASE UNDER THE DIRECTION OF OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

AND WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS NEXT CHAPTER.

WE ARE STEPPING INTO THESE ROLES DURING A SEASON OF TRANSITION FOR BCPS AND ON BEHALF OF CASE, I WANT TO EXTEND A WARM WELCOME TO DR.

HEISER AS YOU BEGIN YOUR LEADERSHIP HERE IN BALTIMORE COUNTY WITH THIS NEW LEADERSHIP AT CASE YOU'LL ALSO HAVE NEW BOARD MEMBERS, AND THIS IS CERTAINLY A GREAT DEAL OF CHANGE THAT'S GONNA TAKE PLACE.

AT THE SAME TIME, WE WOULD LIKE TO EMPHASIZE FOR YOU THAT CASE'S CORE COMMITMENT IS GOING TO REMAIN UNCHANGED.

OUR MISSION CONTINUES TO BE SUPPORTING THE ADMINISTRATORS AND SUPERVISORS WHO LEAD THIS DISTRICT EVERY DAY, AND WE ARE GOING TO PARTNER WITH YOU TO ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE THE RESOURCES AND THE SUPPORT THAT THEY NEED TO SUCCEED.

BETWEEN MIKE'S 36 YEARS IN VCPS AND MY OWN 35 YEARS WORKING WITH THIS DISTRICT, SERVING IN MULTIPLE ROLES, WE UNDERSTAND FIRSTHAND THE CHALLENGES, RESPONSIBILITIES, AND OPPORTUNITIES THAT FACE OUR LEADERS.

THAT EXPERIENCE WILL GUIDE OUR WORK AND OUR ADVOCACY.

AS WE BEGIN THIS NEW CHAPTER, WE ARE EXCITED TO WORK ALONGSIDE YOU ON ISSUES THAT MATTER DEEPLY TO OUR MEMBERS, MAINTAINING FAIR STAFFING PRACTICES AND PROMOTION PRACTICES, BUILDING TRUST AND OPEN COMMUNICATION AND COLLABORATION, AND ENSURING THE VOICES OF OUR ADMINISTRATORS AND OUR SUPERVISORS ARE HEARD AND THEY'RE VALUED.

WE RECOGNIZE THAT RECENT BUDGET CHALLENGES HAVE PLACED SIGNIFICANT DEMANDS ON MANY OF OUR MEMBERS.

TOGETHER WE LOOK FORWARD TO ENSURING EVERY ADMINISTRATOR AND SUPERVISOR FEELS RESPECTED, VALUED, AND EQUIPPED TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THEIR ROLE.

CASE STANDS READY TO PARTNER WITH YOU IN ADVANCING THAT MISSION.

WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO BUILDING YOU.

WELCOME DR.

HU.

THANK YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS TO BOTH OF YOU ON YOUR NEW ROLE.

MR. PARKER.

GLAD YOU DIDN'T GO FAR FROM BCPS.

GLAD YOU DIDN'T GO TOO FAR FROM BCPS.

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OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS FROM TAPCO, AND THAT'S MS. KELLY OS.

IT'S THE FASTEST THREE MINUTES EVER.

AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, UM, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT.

I WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO WELCOME DR.

HEISER, UM, AS WELL AS OUR THREE NEW BOARD MEMBERS.

UH, I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ALL AS WE MOVE CLOSER TO THE UPCOMING SCHOOL YEAR.

I THINK IT IS AN IMPORTANT TIME TO REFLECT ON OUR VALUES AND HOW THEY RELATE TO THE WORK WE ARE DOING AND HOW WE ARE COLLABORATING TO CENTER THOSE VALUES.

TABCO HAS FIVE DRIVING VALUES, A COUPLE OF WHICH THAT I WOULD LIKE TO TOUCH ON OUR TRANSPARENCY AND ADVOCACY.

FIRST, TRANSPARENCY.

I BELIEVE THAT CLEAR, HONEST, AND OPEN COMMUNICATION IS NECESSARY WITHIN OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM TO ENSURE THAT THOSE WE ARE SERVING UNDERSTAND THE EXPECTATIONS AND THE WORK BEING DONE.

TRANSPARENCY IS ALSO AN IMPORTANT WAY TO BUILD TRUSTING AND COLLEGIAL RELATIONSHIPS WITHIN AN ORGANIZATION OR GROUP.

THIS TYPICALLY INCLUDES A LEVEL OF CHECKS AND BALANCES THROUGHOUT DECISION MAKING PROCESSES.

COLLABORATION IS MUCH EASIER WHEN THOSE AT THE TABLE COME WITH THE INTENT TO BUILD TRUST, PROACTIVELY PROBLEM SOLVE, AND ACTIVELY LISTEN TO BOTH CONCERNS AND POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS.

I LOOK FORWARD TO THE COLLABORATIVE EFFORTS NEEDED TO REALIZE THE BEST OUTCOME FOR OUR EDUCATORS AND OUR STUDENTS.

THIS BRINGS ME TO ADVOCACY.

AS MUCH AS I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO THE UPCOMING YEAR, THERE ARE ISSUES AND CONCERNS FOLLOWING US THAT NEED RESOLUTION.

AS THE TABCO PRESIDENT, I WILL CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE FOR OUR MEMBERS AND THE CONCERNS THAT THEY BRING.

I WILL NOT GO INTO SPECIFIC CONCERNS THIS EVENING, AS MANY OF YOU ARE ALREADY VERY FAMILIAR, BUT I DO FEEL PROMPT AND PROACTIVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THESE ARE NECESSARY.

I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU AS WE ADVOCATE FOR OUR STUDENTS AND EDUCATORS IN A MEANINGFUL AND TRANSPARENT WAY.

WE CONTINUE TO STRIVE FOR IMPROVED WORKING CONDITIONS FOR OUR EDUCATORS AS THESE ARE ALSO THE LEARNING CONDITIONS FOR OUR STUDENTS.

OUR NEXT CATEGORY ARE NONPROFIT COMMUNITY GROUPS, AND OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS AMANDA GARRETT FROM SCHOOLS BEYOND SCREENS BALTIMORE COUNTY.

TEACHING EASIER, EASIER GRADING, EASIER DATA COLLECTION, EASIER TO EASIER MONITORING.

THANK YOU EVERYONE.

UM, MY NAME IS AMANDA GARRETT.

I REPRESENT SCHOOLS BEYOND SCREENS BALTIMORE COUNTY AND I HAVE TWO CHILDREN OF BCPS.

IN THIRD GRADE, MY SON SUDDENLY STARTED STRUGGLING IN MATH AND I SOON DISCOVERED WHY STUDENTS WHO FINISHED THEIR WORK WERE REWARDED WITH PRODIGY MATH GAME ON THEIR CHROMEBOOKS.

HE RUSHED THROUGH HIS WORK TO PLAY THE GAME.

PRODIGY ISN'T A-B-C-P-S APPROVED PROGRAM YET, IT'S WIDELY USED AT OUR SCHOOL.

A FIRST GRADER IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD RECENTLY TOLD ME I DON'T READ BOOKS.

I JUST READ EPIC BECAUSE I GET BADGES.

EPIC IS ANOTHER NON-APPROVED PROGRAM USED WIDELY AT OUR SCHOOL THAT REWARDS CHILDREN FOR FINISHING BOOKS, NOT NECESSARILY READING THEM.

AND FOR MIDDLE SCHOOL, MANY FAMILIES IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ARE CONSIDERING PRIVATE SCHOOL BECAUSE AT OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL, CHROMEBOOKS SIT OPEN ON DESKS MOST OF THE DAY WITH YOUTUBE, AI AND THE INTERNET AS CONSTANT DISTRACTIONS.

HOW CAN CHILDREN DEVELOP FOCUS, PERSEVERANCE, AND DEEP THINKING IN AN ENVIRONMENT DESIGNED TO COMPETE FOR THEIR ATTENTION? AND THESE ARE NOT ISOLATED STORIES ACROSS BCPS STUDENTS.

EXPERIENCES WITH TECHNOLOGY VARY DRAMATICALLY FROM CLASSROOM TO CLASSROOM, OFTEN INCLUDING PROGRAMS OUTSIDE THE APPROVED CURRICULUM.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO GUESS WHAT SUPPORTS LEARNING.

THE RESEARCH IS REMARKABLY CONSISTENT ACROSS 80 COUNTRY COUNTRIES.

RESEARCH HAS FOUND THAT THOSE COUNTRIES INVESTING LESS IN CLASSROOM COMPUTERS MADE GREATER GAINS IN LEARNING.

STUDENTS WHO USE COMPUTERS NEARLY EVERY DAY SCORED 41 POINTS LOWER IN MATH AND 51 POINTS LOWER IN SCIENCE THAN STUDENTS WHO RARELY USED THEM.

EVEN IN STUDIES WHERE STUDENTS WERE PAID TO STAY FOCUSED ON A COMPUTER, NEARLY 40% STILL COULDN'T RESIST MULTITASKING.

AND STUDENTS TAKING HANDWRITTEN NOTES ARE 58% MORE LIKELY TO EARN.

A'S THAN LAPTOP NOTE TAKERS, WE ALREADY KNOW THE KEY INGREDIENTS TO LEARNING STRONG TEACHER RELATIONSHIPS, SUSTAINED ATTENTION HANDWRITING, BOOKS, DISCUSSION AND PRACTICE.

SOME SAY THAT TECHNOLOGY MAKES

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BUT THE QUESTION SHOULD NOT BE WHETHER IT IS EASIER.

THE QUESTION SHOULD BE WHAT IS BEST FOR OUR CHILDREN? IF TEACHERS ARE OVERWHELMED, LET'S REDUCE UNNECESSARY BURDENS, NOT ASK CHILDREN TO SPEND MORE TIME ON SCREENS.

OTHERS SAY TECHNOLOGY ISN'T GOING AWAY.

THEY'VE GOT TO LEARN IT AND THEY'RE RIGHT.

BUT THERE'S QUITE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TEACHING CHILDREN TO USE TECHNOLOGY AND TEACHING CHILDREN THROUGH TECHNOLOGY.

WE SHOULD ABSOLUTELY TEACH DIGITAL LITERACY AT APPROPRIATE AGES, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT EVERY SUBJECT SHOULD BE TAUGHT ON A SCREEN.

WE ASK THE BOARD TO ALIGN CLASSROOM TECHNOLOGY WITH THE SCIENCE OF LEARNING, ELIMINATE CHROMEBOOKS FOR K THROUGH TWO, REPLACE ONE-TO-ONE CHROMEBOOKS WITH A CART MODEL IN ALL GRADES.

PRIORITIZE PAPER-BASED TEACHER-LED INSTRUCTION WHEREVER POSSIBLE, RESTRICT ACCESS TO DISTRACTING NON INSTRUCTIONAL WEBSITES.

OUR NEXT CATEGORY ARE INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS OR STUDENTS.

AND OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS DR.

FARONE.

I DOWN CHAIR.

I DON'T FEEL WELL.

I HOPE YOU ARE PATIENT WITH ME.

I COUNT ON YOU A LOT.

UH, CONGRATULATIONS MR. YOUNG, THE THREE NEW BOARD MEMBERS.

SO I WANT TO TALK TO ALL OF YOU ABOUT SUCCESS.

UM, I KNEW IN MY 30 YEARS OF ADVOCACY SIX PEOPLE AND NONE OF THEM WAS GOOD.

NONE.

SO FOR THAT REASON, WHEN I MET DR.

HEISER, SUDDENLY I FELT OPTIMISM.

THERE IS GOING TO BE A GOOD CHANGE THAT THE SCHOOL SYSTEM WOULD TURN FROM A FAILING SCHOOL SYSTEM, AN EXPENSIVE AND WASTEFUL SCHOOL SYSTEM INTO AN ACHIEVING ONE AND AN EFFECTIVE ONE.

SO WITH THAT, I SEE IN MY 30 YEARS, TWO THINGS.

POLLUTION IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM BASICALLY MAKES US FAIL.

FAT IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM MAKES US FAIL.

POLLUTION COMES FROM POLITICAL BEHIND THE SCENES MOST OF THE TIME AND SOMETIME PEOPLE COME HERE AND BABBLE FOR A LONG, LONG TIME ABOUT POLITICS.

IT REALLY TAKES ALL OF YOU BOARD MEMBERS AND THE SUPERINTENDENT AWAY FROM YOUR MISSION.

AND YOUR MISSION IS REPRESENTED BY THE SCHOOL STUDENT MEMBER OF THE BOARD.

IT'S ABOUT STUDENTS, ABOUT ACHIEVEMENT.

FACT, IT'S AN EXPENSIVE SCHOOL SYSTEM, FAR MORE EXPENSIVE THAN MANY OTHERS.

UM, IF YOU CONTINUE WITH THE FAT, OBVIOUSLY IT'S A DRUG.

YOU CAN'T PAY OTHER EFFECTIVE TEACHERS.

WELL, BY HAVING SO MUCH FAT IN THE SYSTEM, I PERSONALLY AS OBSERVATION, AND THESE ARE MY COMMENTS TO YOU, THAT'S MY 30 YEAR OBSERVATION OF THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.

IF YOU DON'T ADDRESS IT AS A BOARD AND AS A SUPERINTENDENT, COLLECTIVELY TOGETHER, THIS NEW SUPERINTENDENT WILL FAIL JUST LIKE THE ONES BEFORE.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS SANTINA GENTI.

HELLO.

TEACHERS, CO-TEACHERS, CONTENT INTEGRATORS, INSTRUCTIONAL LEADERS, INFORMATION SPECIALISTS, AND PROGRAM ADMINISTRATORS.

MEMBERS OF THE BOARD SUPERINTENDENT, DR.

HEISER, AND WELCOME TO OUR NEW BOARD MEMBERS.

I AM SANTINA GENTI AND A-B-C-P-S PARENT AND LIBRARY MEDIA SPECIALIST.

AND I'M HERE TONIGHT TO PROVIDE SOME BACKGROUND FOR OUR NEW MEMBERS ABOUT SECONDARY LIBRARY MEDIA SPECIALISTS IN BCPS.

BECAUSE I AM DOUBLY INVESTED IN OUR DISTRICT, I APPRECIATE OUR BOARD'S RECOGNITION THAT SCHOOL LIBRARIES ARE ESSENTIAL TO STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT.

OUR BOARD POLICY 6,200 RECOGNIZES THAT LIBRARY MEDIA SPECIALISTS ARE

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THE POLICY ALSO AFFIRMS THAT WE TEACH INFORMATION DIGITAL AND MEDIA LITERACY WHILE FOSTERING CRITICAL THINKING AND INQUIRY ALIGNED WITH THE CCR STANDARDS OUTLINED IN THE BLUEPRINT FOR MARILYN'S FUTURE.

MY CONCERN IS THAT OUR CURRENT STAFFING MODEL MAKES THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES IMPOSSIBLE TO FULFILL.

LAST SCHOOL YEAR, BCPS MADE IT OPTIONAL FOR PRINCIPALS TO USE SECONDARY LIBRARY MEDIA SPECIALISTS AS CLASSROOM TEACHERS IN TWO CLASSES TO OFFSET STAFFING CUTS THIS COMING SCHOOL YEAR.

ALL SECONDARY SCHOOLS ARE NOW REQUIRED TO ASSIGN THEIR LIBRARIANS AS CLASSROOM TEACHERS.

THAT MEANS 52 LICENSED SPECIALISTS ARE REMOVED FROM THEIR LIBRARIES ROUGHLY ONE QUARTER OF EVERY INSTRUCTIONAL DAY.

DURING THAT TIME, WE CANNOT COLLABORATE WITH TEACHERS CO-TEACH INQUIRY LESSONS OR PROVIDE STUDENTS WITH INSTRUCTION AND RESEARCH, DIG DIGITAL CITIZENSHIP, MEDIA LITERACY, AND ETHICAL USE OF INFORMATION.

AND WHILE SOME SCHOOLS MAY PROVIDE COVERAGE IN THE LIBRARY FOR CIRCULATION, OUR LIBRARIES BASICALLY BECOME SUPERVISED SPACES INSTEAD OF INSTRUCTIONAL PROGRAMS. THIS IS ESPECIALLY CONCERNING BECAUSE IT DIRECTLY CONFLICTS WITH THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF SCHOOL.

LIBRARIANS POSITION ON RESPONSIVE SCHEDULING.

THE A A SL STATES THAT LEARNERS NEED FLEXIBLE, EQUITABLE ACCESS TO BOTH THE LIBRARY AND THE LIBRARIAN THROUGHOUT THE SCHOOL DAY.

AND THAT SCHOOL LIBRARIANS SHOULD COLLABORATE AS FULL INSTRUCTIONAL PARTNERS WHO CO-PLAN, CO-TEACH AND COSS WITH CLASSROOM EDUCATORS.

DISTRICTS ARE SPECIFICALLY ENCOURAGED TO MAINTAIN STAFFING MODELS THAT MAKE THIS WORK POSSIBLE.

THE RESEARCH SUPPORTS THIS APPROACH.

A 2013 MULTI-STATE STUDY FOUND THAT STUDENTS IN SCHOOLS WITH FULL-TIME CERTIFIED LIBRARIANS CONSISTENTLY SCORE HIGHER IN READING AND WRITING EVEN AFTER CONTROLLING FOR POVERTY, RACE AND SCHOOL SIZE.

AND THIS DISTRICT ALREADY KNOWS WHAT AN OUTSTANDING LIBRARY PROGRAM LOOKS LIKE.

IN 2017, BCPS WAS NAMED THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF SCHOOL LIBRARIANS NATIONAL SCHOOL LIBRARY PROGRAM OF THE YEAR.

AND THAT RECOGNITION WAS EARNED BECAUSE OUR LIBRARY MEDIA SPECIALISTS WERE DOING EXACTLY WHAT BOARD POLICY 6,200 NOW DESCRIBES COLLABORATING WITH TEACHERS, INTEGRATING LITERACY ACROSS THE CURRICULUM, AND PROVIDING STUDENTS WITH CONTINUOUS ACCESS TO EXPERT INSTRUCTION.

AND IF WE BELIEVE IN POLICY 6,200, WE MUST ALSO PROVIDE THE CONDITIONS NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT IT.

PLEASE REMOVE THE TWO CLASS TEACHING REQUIREMENT FOR OUR 52 SECONDARY LIBRARY MEDIA SPECIALISTS SO WE CAN DO THE WORK THAT THIS BOARD HAS RECOGNIZED AS ESSENTIAL TO STUDENT SUCCESS.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MANJU HOLMES.

SCREENS FRACTURE ATTENTION.

THANK YOU TO THE BOARD.

MY NAME IS MANJU HOLMES.

I'M THE MOTHER OF A RISING FIRST GRADER AND PRESCHOOLER.

I'M SPEAKING TODAY BECAUSE I'M CONCERNED WITH THE USE OF EDUCATION TECHNOLOGY IN OUR SCHOOLS.

LAST FALL, MY CHILD WAS INSTRUCTED TO USE AMIRA, AN ADAPTIVE AI READING PROGRAM.

I HAD NEVER HEARD OF THE PROGRAM AND WAS SKEPTICAL ABOUT SITTING MY CHILD IN FRONT OF A SCREEN TO LEARN TO READ.

BUT I LOVE AND TRUST OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND MY CHI CHILD'S KINDERGARTEN TEACHER IS A DREAM.

AS MY CHILD PROGRESSED THROUGH THE ONLINE LESSONS, IT BECAME CLEAR THERE WERE ISSUES WITH THE PROGRAM.

IT STRUGGLED TO UNDERSTAND MY CHILD AT TIMES, WHICH FRUSTRATED HER.

SHE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT EARNING BADGES IN THE PROGRAM.

AND WHEN WE TOLD HER WE WERE GONNA STOP USING AMIRA, SHE GOT TEARY EYED AND SAID THAT A TROPHY IS GIVEN TO WHOMEVER USES THE MOST AT SCHOOL.

AFTER WE DECIDED TO OPT OUT, WE WENT BACK TO READING EVERY NIGHT WITH HER.

SHE EXCELLED AND IS NOW A NATURAL READER READY FOR FIRST GRADE.

IT COULD BE SAID THAT MY CHILD IS AN OUTLIER, BUT AFTER SPEAKING WITH HER PEERS, PARENTS, IT'S CLEAR THAT SHE'S NOT.

THEY REPORT THE SAME ISSUES WITH AMIRA.

AMIRA IS ADAPTIVE AND THE CLAIM IS THAT THE LONGER YOUR CHILD USES IT, THE BETTER THEY WILL BE.

UNDERSTOOD.

MY QUESTION IS, WHY ARE WE USING IT IN THE FIRST PLACE? MY CHILD'S TEACHER IS FANTASTIC.

SHE HAS TAUGHT THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN READING FUNDAMENTALS THROUGH THE YEARS WITHOUT THE AID OF AMIRA.

MY HUSBAND AND I READ REGULARLY WITH OUR CHILD.

IN MAY, THE US SURGEON GENERAL'S OFFICE ISSUED AN ADVISORY ABOUT THE ADDICTIVE NATURE OF SCREENS FOR OUR CHILDREN, ESPECIALLY YOUNG KIDS.

ADDING A TROPHY IS A PRIZE FOR THE STUDENT WHO USES THE APP THE MOST.

AND WE'RE PRIMING OUR YOUNGEST LEARNERS TO NEED SCREENS TO NEED ED TECH.

WHO DOES THIS BENEFIT? THE WEBSITE EVIDENCE FOR ISSA GIVES AMIRA A MODERATE RATING BASED ON TWO STUDIES WITH AN AVERAGE EFFECT SIZE OF 0.15.

THE AVERAGE EFFECT SIZE FOR A POSITIVE STUDENT TEACHER RELATIONSHIP IS 0.58.

SO WHAT IS AMIRA REPLACING TEACHER INSTRUCTION READING WITH THE CAREGIVER? MY CHILD AND HER PEERS DIDN'T NEED AMIRA TO LEARN HOW TO READ, BUT TECH COMPANIES NEED SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO PURCHASE THEIR PROGRAMS TO MAKE MONEY.

OF COURSE, KIDS WITH SPECIAL NEEDS SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE APPROPRIATE TECHNOLOGY TO LEARN.

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BUT LET'S INVEST IN TEACHERS AND DIVEST FROM UNNECESSARY ED TECH.

I'M ASKING THE BOARD TO GO BACK TO THE BASICS.

LET'S ELIMINATE STUDENT FACING SCREENS K THROUGH TWO.

ADOPT A CART BASED MODEL FOR CHROMEBOOKS IN GRADES THREE THROUGH THREE THROUGH 12 AND BAN ADDICTIVE SOCIAL MEDIA SITES LIKE YOUTUBE ON SCHOOL ISSUED DEVICES.

THE TECHNOLOGY ACCEPTABLE USE POLICY THAT WILL BE VOTED ON LATER TODAY FAILS TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE HARM DEVICES CAUSE OUR CHILDREN AS WELL AS THE LACK OF EVIDENCE THAT THEY HELP OUR KIDS LEARN BETTER THAN WITH SIMPLE TEACHER INSTRUCTION.

LET'S GET BACK TO THE BASICS.

PENCILS AND PAPER AND AMAZING TEACHER INSTRUCTION.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JENNA GOOGLE AMIN.

AND PLEASE HELP ME WITH THAT ONE.

GOOGLE.

NOW I GOT JENNA, RIGHT? YOU DID GET GENERAL RIGHT.

MY NAME IS JENNA GINI AND I AM A BALTIMORE COUNTY CITIZEN AS WELL AS A-B-C-P-S SCHOOL PSYCHOLOGIST.

ABOUT TO START MY SIXTH YEAR, UM, TO RECAP IN MARCH, 2025, BCPS PARTIALLY LAID OFF PSYCHOLOGIST AND SCHOOL COUNSELING DEPARTMENT CHAIRS, REDUCING THEM FROM 12 MONTHS TO 10 MONTHS.

WHILE I'M SPEAKING ABOUT THE IMPACT ON PSYCHOLOGISTS TONIGHT, WE PSYCHS DO KNOW HOW MUCH THIS DECISION HAS ALSO IMPACTED OUR COUNSELING COLLEAGUES.

THE CUT WAS MADE WITHOUT ANY DATA, SUCH AS THE NUMBER OF PSYCHOLOGICAL ASSESSMENTS COMPLETED.

IEP MEETINGS HELD SCHOOL-WIDE POSITIVE BEHAVIOR PLANS DEVELOPED AND SO ON OVER THE SUMMER.

THIS DATA COULD HAVE EASILY BEEN OBTAINED BY COLLABORATING WITH OUR SUPERVISORS AS ALL PSYCHOLOGISTS ARE REQUIRED TO DOCUMENT AND SUBMIT OUR ACTIVITIES.

UNFORTUNATELY, OUR SUPERVISORS WERE JUST AS SURPRISED AS WE WERE TO LEARN ABOUT THE CUTS AS THEY WERE NOT INCLUDED IN PRIOR PLANNING DISCUSSIONS.

HEISER, I ATTENDED THE TOWN HALL FOR SUPERINTENDENT CANDIDATES AND THE EVENT AT PINE GROVE MIDDLE.

YOUR COMMITMENT TO COLLABORATING WITH THE EXPERTS ON TOPICS IS REFRESHING AND I STRONGLY URGE YOU TO SPEAK WITH THE ACTUAL DIRECT SUPERVISORS OF SUPPORT STAFF SUCH AS PSYCHOLOGISTS, COUNSELORS, SPEECH THERAPISTS, OCCUPATIONAL THERAPISTS, SO ON RATHER THAN INDIVIDUALS FAR REMOVED FROM THE FRONT LINES.

WHEN CONSIDERING SUCH MASSIVE CHANGES, STAFF RETENTION IS ONE OF THE FOUR PILLARS OF FOCUS THIS YEAR.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE LOST 20% OF OUR STAFF IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THE CUTS AND WE LOST MORE AT THE END OF THE 25 26 SCHOOL YEAR.

WHILE NEW HIRES HAVE BEEN MADE, MANY ARE BRAND NEW GRADUATES.

WE HAVE LOST MANY, MANY TENURED PSYCHOLOGISTS AS THEY ALL RETIRED OR FLED TO NEIGHBORING DISTRICTS, MOST OF WHICH OFFER 12 MONTH POSITIONS.

ANNE ARUNDEL COUNTY BEING ONE OF THEM BCPS IS NOT COMPETITIVE.

IN FACT, WE ARE EFFECTIVELY BLACKLISTED.

WE NOW OFFER NOTHING TO ENTICE EXPERIENCED PSYCHOLOGISTS TO TRANSFER HERE.

AND WE CERTAINLY OFFER NOTHING TO KEEP NEW GRADUATES HERE ONCE THEY'RE TENURED.

ACADEMIC EXCELLENCE.

ANOTHER PILLAR WILL CONTINUE TO BE IMPACTED THIS YEAR AS IT WAS LAST YEAR.

HEISER AS A FORMER SCHOOL COUNSELOR, YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH MASLOW'S H.

HIERARCHY OF NEEDS.

OUR STUDENTS ARE NOT READY TO LEARN IF THEIR SOCIAL, EMOTIONAL AND BEHAVIORAL NEEDS ARE UNMET.

STUDENT MENTAL HEALTH AND BEHAVIOR IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW YET.

BCPS CUT THE STAFF WHO DIRECTLY ADDRESSED THIS.

FOR EXAMPLE, BCPS ROLLED OUT A MENTAL HEALTH SCREENER IN THE SPRING TO VARIOUS SCHOOLS ACROSS THE COUNTY TO DETERMINE SCHOOL SPECIFIC NEEDS.

BUT PSYCHOLOGISTS ARE NO LONGER CONSISTENTLY AVAILABLE TO AID SCHOOL ADMIN IN DEVELOPING INTERVENTIONS OVER THE SUMMER TO ADDRESS THOSE SCREENER RESULTS.

SCHOOL PSYCHOLOGISTS PROVIDE SO MUCH TO THE SCHOOLS THEY WORK IN, OFFERING BEHAVIOR SUPPORT TO TEACHERS, PROVIDING COUNSELING TO STUDENTS, INTERVENING DURING STUDENT CRISES, IDENTIFYING ACADEMIC AND BEHAVIOR INTERVENTIONS.

THE LIST GOES ON.

THERE ARE SCHOOLS WITHOUT IN-PERSON PSYCHOLOGISTS, MANY OF WHICH ARE STAFFED BY VIRTUAL PSYCHOLOGISTS.

CAN A VIRTUAL PSYCHOLOGIST DO ANY OF THOSE THINGS? AT THE END OF THE DAY, LEGALLY, WE ARE THE QUALIFIED EXAMINER EXAMINER OF MOST EDUCATIONAL DISABILITIES AND SPECIAL EDUCATION TIMELINES.

DON'T STOP IN, IN THE SUMMER IN MARYLAND CURRENTLY, SUMMER IEP TEAMS ARE REPEATEDLY EMAILING PSYCHOLOGISTS REQUESTING AND EXPEDITED ASSESSMENTS FOR COMPLEX CASES.

HAD PSYCHOLOGISTS BEEN KEPT 12 MONTHS, THIS WOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE.

ALL OF THAT TO SAY WE NEED TO FIX THIS, YOU ALL HAVE THE POWER TO ENSURE BCPS STUDENTS, FAMILIES, AND STAFF RECEIVE THE SAME ACCESS TO THE FULL RANGE OF PSYCHOLOGICAL SERVICES AS OTHER MARYLAND CITIZENS DO.

OUR FIFTH SPEAKER, UM, WAS UNABLE TO ATTEND.

SO THE WAITING LIST HAS OUR FIRST SPEAKER AS AMY ADAMS. GOOD EVENING.

CHAIR LICHTER, VICE CHAIR YOUNG DR.

HAUSER AND ALL BOARD MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS AMY ADAMS. I'M WITH MARY TAYLOR.

WE ARE THE LEADERS OF THE BALTIMORE COUNTY PARENT AND STUDENT COALITION.

WE REPRESENT A WIDE CROSS SECTION OF FAMILIES AND TAXPAYERS WHO ARE DEEPLY INVESTED IN THE QUALITY OF EDUCATION OF BALTIMORE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND WANNA SEE EVERY STUDENT PREPARED FOR SUCCESS LATER IN LIFE.

FIRST, CONGRATULATIONS TO THE TWO FORMER BOARD CHAIRS WHO ARE RECOGNIZED TONIGHT, AND WE WANNA GIVE A SPECIAL SHOUT OUT TO MS. COZY AND ACKNOWLEDGE HER DEEP COMMITMENT AND DEDICATION TO HER MANY ROLES ON THE BOARD OF EDUCATION.

WE APPRECIATE HER YEARS OF SERVICE AND COMMITMENT TO THE SYSTEM AND THE STUDENTS.

SECOND, WELCOME MS. THORNTON AND MR. FITZPATRICK TO THE BOARD OF

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EDUCATION.

UM, WE ARE VERY EXCITED TO SEE YOUR WORK ON THIS BOARD.

WELCOME TO MS. JI.

I'M VERY THRILLED TO SEE YOU IN THIS ROLE AND I KNOW THAT YOU WILL THRIVE AS A THOUGHTFUL REPRESENTATIVE OF THE STUDENTS OF BALTIMORE COUNTY.

FINALLY, WELCOME DR.

HAUSER.

OUR GROUP'S PRIORITY OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS HAS BEEN TO KEEP STUDENTS AS PRIORITY IN BCPS.

SO TO HEAR YOU STATE THIS AS ONE OF YOUR FOCUSES AND PILLARS OF YOUR ADMINISTRATION IS VERY REASSURING AND EXCITING.

WE HAVE CONTINUED TO ADVOCATE FOR IMPROVEMENTS IN CLIMATE AND SAFETY AND THEY'RE VERY COMMITTED TO EVALUATING ACADEMIC OUTCOMES AND THE ACTIONS TAKEN TO REACT TO THE NEEDS OF CURRENT STUDENTS.

WE VERY MUCH LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOUR WORK, LAND YOUR WORK, TAKE FORM AND BE IMPLEMENTED AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU AND ALL BOARD MEMBERS IN THE UPCOMING SCHOOL YEAR.

OKAY, NEXT ARE OUR COMMENTS ON BOARD POLICY ZERO 100 AND OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS LLOYD ALLEN.

CHAIR LICHTER, VICE CHAIR YOUNG AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

WELCOME SUPERINTENDENT HEISER AS WELL AS MEMBERS FITZPATRICK THORNTON AND JI.

I'M LLOYD ALLEN.

HE, HIM, SPECIAL EDUCATOR IN MATHEMATICS AND VICE PRESIDENT OF TABCO.

BUT SPEAKING AS AN INDIVIDUAL TONIGHT, EQUITY IS FOUNDATIONAL TO THE CONCEPT OF PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

FOR THE MOST PART, THE POLICY AVOIDS THE TRAP OF EQUATING EQUITY WITH EQUALITY.

OPPORTUNITY ALONE DOES NOT YIELD APPROPRIATE OUTCOMES FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE MULTIPLE ROADBLOCKS AT THE CLASSROOM LEVEL.

THE BEST WAY FOR EDUCATORS TO PURSUE EQUITY IS TO KNOW EACH OF OUR STUDENTS ON AN INDIVIDUAL LEVEL.

TO THIS END, THE FIRST STATEMENT TO THE NATIONAL EDUCATION ASSOCIATION'S RESOLUTION ON EDUCATIONAL EQUITY IS THAT THE NEA BELIEVES THAT EXCELLENCE IN THE CLASSROOM CAN BEST BE ATTAINED BY SMALL CLASS SIZE.

FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THIS WILL BE INCREASINGLY CHALLENGING AT THE SECONDARY LEVEL FOR THIS COMING YEAR.

THE NEA ALSO BELIEVES THAT PROGRAMS MUST OFFER POSITIVE AND DIVERSE ROLE MODELS IN OUR SOCIETY, INCLUDING THE RECRUITMENT, HIRING, AND PROMOTION OF DIVERSE EDUCATION EMPLOYEES IN OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IN RECENT YEARS, THIS IS AN AREA IN WHICH BCPS HAS SHOWN IMPROVEMENT.

BUT WE STILL HAVE WORK TO DO IN INTENTIONAL RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION, UH, IN ORDER FOR OUR EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM TO REFLECT THE STUDENT BODY'S DIVERSITY.

AT THIS SUMMER'S MEETING OF THE NATIONAL COUNCIL OF URBAN EDUCATION ASSOCIATIONS.

I ATTENDED A HOT TOPIC SESSION ENTITLED BEYOND SOLIDARITY, CONFRONTING ANTI-BLACKNESS IN EDUCATION AND LABOR.

SEVERAL PARTICIPANTS SUGGESTED BEING NOT AFRAID TO NAME AND CONFRONT THE SYSTEMATIC OPPRESSION OF BLACK STUDENTS AND STAFF.

AND ONE WENT ON TO SAY THAT IF THE STUDENT WITH THE MOST ROADBLOCKS FEELS SAFE AND IS JOYFULLY LEARNING TO ATTAIN AN EXCELLENT POST-SECONDARY OUTCOME, THEN THE REST OF THE CHIPS WILL FALL IN LINE.

NOW FOR SOME PARTICULAR ITEMS, PLEASE DON'T ELIMINATE THE DEFINITION OF IMPLICIT BIAS.

A NOTE SAYS THAT IT IS STRICKEN BECAUSE THE EXPRESSION DOESN'T APPEAR ELSEWHERE IN THE POLICY.

IN FACT, IT IS ADDED IN YELLOW TO ROMAN NUMERAL ONE CAPITAL BRAVO.

PLEASE DO NOT ELIMINATE ROMAN THREE CAPITAL, UH, FOX TROT AND CAPITAL NOVEMBER.

OUR STUDENTS WILL BE BEST SERVED BY AN EDUCATIONAL FORCE IN WHICH THEY SEE THEMSELVES.

AND THE TEMPLATE FOR POLICY ANALYSIS ITSELF INCLUDES A HEADER, A HEADER FOR EQUITY LENS CONSIDERATIONS, WHICH IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE IMPLEMENTATION OF ITEM NI AFFIRM AND PROMOTE THE RECOGNITION OF THE CONCEPT OF INTERSECTIONALITY, WHICH IS NEW IN THE POLICY.

FINALLY, IN ROMAN ONE, CAPITAL BRAVO CONSIDER RAISING ACHIEVEMENT FOR ALL STUDENTS AND CLOSING ACHIEVEMENT GAPS.

THE FOR ALL STUDENTS BELONGS TO RAISING ACHIEVEMENT, NOT THE GAPS.

I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE SUPERINTENDENT'S RULE THAT CORRESPONDS TO THIS POLICY AS WELL AS THE QUARTERLY REPORTS MENTIONED IN ROMAN FIVE.

CAPITAL BRAVO.

MY OPINION BASED ON MY OBSERVATION AS A NEWLY INDUCTED AMERICAN IN BALTIMORE FOR 52 YEARS.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER FOR POLICY ZERO 100 IS DR.

FARONE.

MY COMMENTS ABOUT THIS POLICY ARE NOT CRITICISM NOR CRITIQUE, AND THEY ARE

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THIS POLICY IS SIX PAGES.

IT'S EXTREMELY LONG.

THE FACT IT'S SIX PAGES AND SO REDUNDANT ABOUT DIVERSITY AND COLOR AND, AND GENDER AND ALL OTHER ISMS, BASICALLY TAKES YOU AWAY FROM EDUCATION.

AND THEN IT HAD MULTIPLE COLORS, NICE COLORS, GREEN, BLUE, WHITE, AND THERE IS A GRAY IN THERE.

IT'S JUST REALLY COMPLEX.

I CAN TELL YOU ABOUT THE WORDING, UH, SPECIFICALLY THERE IS NO ENOUGH TIME, BUT ALL THE EXPRESSIONS ABOUT HATE AND BIAS, IMPLICIT BIAS, ET CETERA, ARE ELASTIC WORDS, WHICH MEANS COMPLAINERS.

PLAINTIFF LAWYERS WILL USE THEM THE WAY THEY WANT TO ATTACK THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, WHICH MEANS YOU'LL BE PAYING MORE FOR DEFENDANT, THE GOOD LAWYERS WE HAVE HERE, AND WILL TAKE YOU AWAY FROM YOUR MISSION.

I KNOW MANY PEOPLE STILL FEEL THAT THEY HAVE BEEN DISCRIMINATED AGAINST BECAUSE OF THEIR COLOR, BUT WHEN I READ THIS POLICY, I WONDER, ARE WE IN 1950 OR ARE WE IN 2026? YOU KNOW, THERE ARE FEDERAL LAWS, THE CONSTITUTION, BARS, DISCRIMINATION STATUES, BAR DISCRIMINATION, STATE LAW, AND THE CONSTITUTION, BAR DISCRIMINATION.

THERE ARE PLENTY OF STATE AND FEDERAL LAWS, BAR DISCRIMINATION.

WHY DO WE NEED A POLICY? SIX PAGES, MULTIPLE COLORS? IT'LL TAKE YOU AWAY AS IT DID FOR THE PAST 20 PLUS YEARS FROM THE TIME I MET DR.

TON, EARLY 2000.

SO I FINISHED SCHOOL IN A MONTH MADE SCHOOL.

I HAVE THREE BOARDS IN MY BELT, AND I'M GETTING A FOURTH ONE PRETTY SOON.

IN AESTHETICS, COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

IF YOU WANT TO LEARN, YOU'LL LEARN.

YOU WANT TO FOCUS ON GENDER AND SEX AND COLOR AND RELIGION, IT'LL TAKE YOU AWAY MY RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU DON'T APPROVE THIS POLICY OR APPROVE IT, THAT YOU COMPLY WITH FEDERAL AND STATE LAWS, AND THAT'S IT, THAT'S ALL WHAT YOU NEED.

YOU REALLY DON'T LANGUAGE IN THAT POLICY.

AGENDA IS OUR SUPERINTENDENT'S REPORT, AND FOR THAT, I CALL ON OUR NEW SUPERINTENDENT, DR.

NEXT ON OUR

[I. SUPERINTENDENT'S REPORT (7:30 - 7:35 p.m.)]

IT WAS A GREAT WAY TO START LAST WEEK, UM, TO REALLY GET A CLEAN UNDERSTANDING.

THANK YOU MADAM.

THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

IT IS, UH, EXCITING FOR ME TO DELIVER MY FIRST REPORT.

AND, UM, BEFORE I BEGIN, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THIS BOARD, UM, NOT JUST FOR SELECTING ME, BUT FOR THE, UM, COLLABORATIVE NATURE IN WHICH WE'VE STARTED.

UM, AND I WANT TO THANK TEAM BCPS FOR, UM, THE WAY IN WHICH THEY'VE WELCOMED ME BACK TO BCPS.

I'VE SEEN A LOT OF FAMILIAR FACES.

I SEE ONE IN THE CROWD NOW THAT I HAVEN'T SEEN IN SOME TIME.

UM, AND, UM, IT'S GREAT TO MEET NEW FACES, UM, AS WE WORK TOGETHER MOVING FORWARD.

UM, I'LL SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, MY PAST WEEK.

UM, BUT BEFORE I DO, I JUST WANT TO, UM, SHARE WITH YOU THE FACT THAT, UM, SUMMER LEARNING IS IN FULL SWING AND I'M HAPPY, UH, TO SEE ALL OF THAT IS HAPPENING ACROSS BCPS THIS SUMMER.

UM, SOMETIMES THE PEOPLE THINK THAT LEARNING STOPS IN THE SUMMER AND IT DOES NOT STOP, AND IT CERTAINLY DOESN'T IN BCPS.

AND I WAS EXCITED, UM, TO SEE ALL THE SUMMER LEARNING THAT'S TAKING PLACE, WHETHER IT'S EXTENDED YEAR LEARNING PROGRAMS OR THE EXTENDED SCHOOL YEAR PROGRAM.

I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT DEEP CREEK ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND VINCENT FARM ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TO SEE THIS PA LAST WEEK TO SEE FIRSTHAND LEARNING TAKING PLACE.

AND I WILL SAY IT WAS DELIGHT TO SEE OUR STUDENTS, AND IT WAS ALSO WONDERFUL TO SEE THE FANTASTIC, FANTASTIC TEACHERS THAT WERE HARD AT WORK AND THE LEADERS THAT I GOT TO MEET.

I ALSO HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET OUR STUDENT LEADERSHIP COUNCIL.

THOSE STUDENTS ARE AMAZING.

I THINK THEY REFLECT THE DIVERSITY OF OUR SYSTEM AS WELL AS THE TALENTS OF OUR SYSTEM.

AND SO

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AND IT WAS LESS OF ME TALKING, AND IT WAS MORE LISTENING, LISTENING TO WHAT THEY LOVE ABOUT OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM, UM, ABOUT THEIR HOPES AND DREAMS FOR OUR SCHOOL SYSTEMS, AND GIVING ME ADVICE AS SUPERINTENDENT.

THERE ARE ALSO ENRICHMENT CAMPS THAT ARE OCCURRING ACROSS OUR SYSTEM, WHETHER IT BE MUSIC CAMPS, SUMMER DANCE FESTIVALS, ART CAMPS, UM, BROADWAY THEATER CONNECTION CAMP, AND A VARIETY OF SCHOOL-BASED CAMPS.

AND SO THOSE THINGS ARE WONDERFUL TO SEE THAT THEY'RE OCCURRING, UM, THIS SUMMER AS WE ADVANCE EXCELLENCE TOGETHER.

I HAVE, UH, MADE MENTION OF THIS, AND I'M SPEAKING ABOUT THIS OFTEN, UM, MY PRIORITIES FOR THE FIRST 100 DAYS, ACADEMIC EXCELLENCE, OPERATIONAL READINESS, AND FINANCIAL STABILITY, TALENT IDENTIFICATION, AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

WE HEARD SOME OF THAT TONIGHT AND SOME OF OUR SPEAKERS, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SHARING MORE AND MORE ABOUT THOSE PRIORITIES IN THE COMING WEEKS AND MONTHS.

AND THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A COMMERCIAL HERE.

THE NEXT SLIDE IS A MEET THE SUPERINTENDENT EVENT.

AND SO WE'VE ALREADY HAD ONE REALLY FABULOUS EVENT AND AGAIN, OPPORTUNITY TO MEET COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND TEAM BCPS AND THANK YOU TO THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND BOARD MEMBERS THAT CAME OUT TO THAT FIRST ONE THAT WAS AT PINE GROVE MIDDLE SCHOOL LAST WEEK.

AND WE'LL HAVE, UM, FIVE MORE AND YOU SEE THEM LISTED THERE.

THE NEXT ONE IS AT RANDALLSTOWN HIGH SCHOOL ON THURSDAY FROM SIX TO SEVEN, WE HOPE TO SEE PEOPLE OUT, AND WE HAD A GREAT TURNOUT AT PINE GROVE.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY, AGAIN, I SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MY EXPERIENCES SO THAT PEOPLE CAN, CAN UNDERSTAND ME AS A LEADER, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO, TO PROVIDE COLLABORATIVE OPPORTUNITY TO OPEN UP FOR US TO BE ABLE TO LISTEN, TO BE ABLE TO BEGIN TO, TO HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND ALL OF TEAM BCPS ABOUT, UM, THE NEEDS IN THE SYSTEMS AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO, UM, ATTACK THOSE TOGETHER.

I DO WANNA LEAVE YOU WITH THAT.

YOU SEE A, A, IT'S NOT JUST A SLOGAN.

YOU SEE A THING THAT SAYS ADVANCING EXCELLENCE TOGETHER.

SOME PEOPLE MIGHT SAY THAT THE MOST IMPORTANT WORD IN THERE IS EXCELLENCE, OR THEY MIGHT SAY IT'S ADVANCING.

QUITE FRANKLY, AS WE GET STARTED ON THIS WORK, THE MOST IMPORTANT WORD IN THAT IS TOGETHER.

TOGETHER, WE'VE GOTTA DO THIS TOGETHER.

AND SO WE ARE GONNA BE DIFFER ON CERTAIN THINGS, BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS IT STARTS WITH LISTENING.

IT STARTS WITH ME, HOPEFULLY BEING HUMBLE, STAYING HUMBLE, AND LISTENING AND TRYING TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT GROUPS IN OUR SYSTEM AND OUR GREAT BOARD.

SO WITH THAT, I TURN IT BACK OVER AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, DR.

NEXT IS

[J. CHAIR'S REPORT (7:35 - 7:40 p.m.)]

THE CHAIR REPORT.

I'M A LITTLE REDUNDANT, BUT I'M STILL GONNA READ IT.

IN EDUCATION, WE EXPERIENCED THREE DIFFERENT STARTS.

THE BEGINNING OF THE SCHOOL YEAR, WHICH IS QUICKLY APPROACHING THE START OF THE CALENDAR YEAR FOLLOWING WINTER BREAK, AND THE START OF THE FISCAL YEAR, WHICH BEGAN ON JULY 1ST.

THIS JULY, HOWEVER, MARKED SEVERAL ADDITIONAL NEW BEGINNINGS FOR BCPS AND THIS BOARD OF EDUCATION.

AS YOU CAN SEE IN HERE, WE HAVE A FULL BOARD.

WE HAVE A FULL DEUS.

UM, AND WE HAD NOT HAD THAT FOR QUITE A WHILE.

, YES, IT'S A REALLY GOOD THING.

UM, AND AFTER A LONG WAIT, WE ARE ALL VERY EXCITED TO ONCE AGAIN BE A FULL BOARD.

I WOULD LIKE TO OFFICIALLY WELCOME OUR THREE NEWEST BOARD MEMBERS, MS. RESE THORNTON, WHO WAS APPOINTED BY THE GOVERNOR AND WILL SERVE THROUGH DECEMBER, 2028, MR. PETE FITZPATRICK, WHO WAS ALSO APPOINTED BY THE GOVERNOR AND WILL SERVE THROUGH DECEMBER 20, 26.

AND OUR NEW STUDENT MEMBER OF THE BOARD, MS. CLAIRE JI, A SENIOR AT GEORGE WASHINGTON CARVER CENTER FOR ARTS AND TECHNOLOGY, WHO WAS BY HER PEERS AND WHO WILL SERVE THROUGH JUNE, 2027.

I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND THEIR NEW BOARD MEMBER ORIENTATION AND WAS IMPRESSED BY THEIR ENTHUSIASM, THEIR COMMITMENT TO SERVING OUR STUDENTS, OUR STAFF, AND OUR COMMUNITY.

AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE PERSPECTIVES AND EXPERIENCES THEY WILL BRING TO OUR WORK.

SO PLEASE JOIN ME IN WELCOMING MS. THORNTON, MR. FITZPATRICK, AND MS. JI.

JULY 1ST ALSO MARKED ANOTHER EXCITING NEW BEGINNING FOR BCPS WITH THE START OF DR. WILLIAM HEISER, TENURE AS SUPERINTENDENT.

HEISER, WELCOME TO YOUR FIRST BOARD MEETING FROM THIS SIDE OF THE TABLE.

YOU HAD ONE OVER THERE, BUT NOW YOU'RE ON THIS SITE WITH US.

WE ARE SO PLEASED TO HAVE YOU LEADING OUR SYSTEM.

ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS OUR STUDENT MEMBER OF THE BOARD REPORT.

HEISER IS WASTED NO TIME GETTING STARTED.

IN ADDITION TO MEETING WITH STAFF ACROSS THE DISTRICT, HE HAS MADE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT A TOP PRIORITY.

ON JULY 6TH, HE HAD HIS FIRST PRESS CONFERENCE WHERE HE SHARED HIS PRIORITIES FOR BCPS, AND HE ANSWERED QUESTIONS FOR MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA.

AND AS HE STATED, HE IDENTIFIED ACADEMIC EXCELLENCE, OPERATIONAL READINESS, AND FINANCIAL, UM, SUSTAINABILITY, TALENT, RECRUITMENT, DEVELOPMENT, AND RETENTION, AND MEANINGFUL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AS THE FOUR KEY PRIORITIES THAT WILL GUIDE HIS WORK AND THE WORK OF BCPS.

THIS BOARD OF EDUCATION IS EAGER TO PARTNER WITH YOU IN THAT WORK AS WE MOVE OUR SYSTEM FORWARD.

LAST WEEK, HE ALSO LAUNCHED, AS HE JUST SAID, THE FIRST OF HIS SIX, MEET THE SUPERINTENDENT COMMUNITY EVENTS AT PINE GROVE MIDDLE

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SCHOOL.

THANK YOU TO PINE GROVE MIDDLE SCHOOL FOR OPENING YOUR DOORS AND HOSTING THIS IMPORTANT CONVERSATION.

THE NEXT ONE WILL BE THIS THURSDAY NIGHT AT 6:00 PM AT RANDALLSTOWN HIGH SCHOOL.

WITH FOUR ADDITIONAL SESSIONS TO FOLLOW.

I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO VISIT OUR WEBSITE FOR THE COMPLETE SCHEDULE OF DATES AND LOCATIONS.

FINALLY, THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO ATTENDED LAST WEEK'S EVENT.

YOUR THOUGHTFUL QUESTIONS, FEEDBACK, AND ENGAGEMENT ARE INVALUABLE AS WE BEGIN THIS NEW CHAPTER TOGETHER.

AND NOW I'M VERY EXCITED TO SAY OUR NEXT

[K. STUDENT BOARD MEMBER'S REPORT (7:40 - 7:45 p.m.)]

AND FOR THAT, I CALL ON MS. CLAIRE AND JI.

GOOD EVENING, CHAIR LICHTER, VICE CHAIR, YOUNG SUPERINTENDENT, HEISER FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS, COMMUNITY MEMBERS, STAFF, AND STUDENTS.

MY NAME IS CLAIRE GIBA AND I AM VERY HONORED TO SERVE AS THE 46 STUDENT MEMBER OF THE BALTIMORE COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION.

I WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN BY THANKING THE COUNTY FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY, FOR BEING WILLING AND WANTING TO HEAR THE STUDENT VOICE.

I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL THE SUPPORT I RECEIVED FROM THE FROM BALTIMORE COUNTY STAFF, AS WELL AS THE STUDENTS WHO HAVE EMPOWERED ME AND TRUSTED ME.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK ALL OF THE PAST STUDENT BOARD MEMBERS WHO HAVE SUPPORTED ME IN MY JOURNEY, MS. FORE, MS. OMALU, AND MR. CHRISTIAN THOMAS.

I'M ENDLESSLY GRATEFUL AND INSPIRED BY THE AMAZING CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE HAD AND THE ADVICE I HAVE RECEIVED MONTHS AGO.

THIS JOURNEY BEGAN AS I COMPARED STUDENTS TO MUSIC.

THROUGH MY CAMPAIGN, I WAS ABLE TO LISTEN TO EACH OF THE STUDENTS' VOICES AND STORIES AS IF IT WAS MUSIC.

EACH INDIVIDUAL HAD A DIFFERENT RHYTHM, A DIFFERENT MELODY, A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE TO SHARE WITH ME.

I HAVE ENDLESS GRATITUDE FOR THE VOICES I'VE ALREADY HEARD, AND I'M EXCITED FOR THE VOICES I'VE YET TO HEAR.

BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE MUSIC THAT THOSE VOICES WILL MAKE TOGETHER.

WE SHOULD NOT ONLY BE STRIVING FOR THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AS A WHOLE TO SUCCEED, BUT INSTEAD FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL STUDENT TO SUCCEED WHEN MAKING MUSIC IN ORDER FOR THE SONG TO SOUND GOOD TOGETHER, EACH ELEMENT, THE DRUMS, THE GUITAR, THE BASS, THE SINGER, MUST BE EXCELLENT.

IN ORDER TO HAVE A SCHOOL SYSTEM THAT THRIVES, WE MUST MAKE SURE THAT EACH STUDENT THRIVES.

I UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE THAT THIS ROLE HAS.

I WORKED TIRELESSLY TO PREPARE IN ORDER TO MAKE THE MOST OUT OF THIS ABILITY TO HELP OUR STUDENTS.

I MADE IT MY MISSION TO CONNECT WITH AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE IN AS MANY WAYS AS POSSIBLE.

I WENT TO TENNIS MATCHES, GAVE PRESENTATIONS TO SCHOOLS, FILM, DANCE VIDEOS, ATTENDED TRACK MEETS, WALKED AROUND CULTURE FESTIVALS, TALKED TO STUDENTS AT OPEN HOUSES AND WATCHED BOARD MEETINGS.

STUDENTS DESERVE REPRESENTATION ON THIS BOARD, AND I'M READY TO BE THE BRIDGE BETWEEN STUDENTS AND THE BOARD OF EDUCATION.

I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE A PRACTICE THAT I FOLLOWED THROUGHOUT MY CAMPAIGN AND THAT I WILL CONTINUE THROUGH MY TERM THAT I BELIEVE IS THE CENTER OF THIS ROLE, SERVANT LEADERSHIP.

THE TERM SERVANT LEADERSHIP MEANS THAT WHEN YOU ARE IN A POSITION OF LEADERSHIP, YOU PUT THE PEOPLE ABOVE YOURSELF AND IT IS YOUR JOB TO SERVE THEM.

AND THIS MEANS PUTTING THE STUDENTS' NEEDS BEFORE OUR OWN, LISTENING TO NEW PERSPECTIVES WITHOUT JUDGMENT, UNDERSTANDING OUR OWN PERSONAL BIASES, AND ULTIMATELY REMEMBERING THAT THE STUDENTS ARE WHY WE ARE DOING THIS AND WHO WE ARE SERVING.

IT IS MY GOAL TO CREATE A SCHOOL SYSTEM WHERE STUDENTS ARE AWARE OF THEIR RESOURCES AND POWER, WHERE STUDENTS HAVE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY REGARDLESS OF WHERE THEY GO TO SCHOOL, WHERE STUDENTS FEEL SAFE GOING TO SCHOOL, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, WHERE STUDENTS CAN SEE SCHOOL AS A PRIVILEGE, NOT A BURDEN.

I'M READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH BCPS STUDENTS AS UNSTOPPABLE DESIRE AND DETERMIN AND DETERMINATION ALLOWS US TO SHAPE A SCHOOL SYSTEM THAT IS RIGHT FOR US.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS NEXT YEAR.

ON THE AGENDA IS UNFINISHED BUSINESS BOARD POLICIES.

THE NEXT ITEM

[L. UNFINISHED BUSINESS - BOARD POLICIES (Ms. Pumphrey) (7:45 - 7:55 p.m.)]

THIS IS A SECOND READER FOR THESE POLICIES, AND FOR THAT I CALL ON MS. CHRISTINA PUMPHREY, CHAIR OF THE POLICY REVIEW COMMITTEE.

MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, THE POLICY REVIEW COMMITTEE ASKS THAT THE BOARD ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION TO AMEND THE FOLLOWING BOARD POLICIES, BOARD POLICY 37 20, BEHAVIOR THREAT ASSESSMENT BOARD POLICY 40 0 8 BOARD DATA GOVERNANCE AND BOARD POLICY 62 0 2 TECHNOLOGY AND ACCEPT ACCEPTABLE USE POLICY FOR STUDENTS.

THESE POLICIES ARE PRESENTED TO YOU ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA AS NEW EXHIBITS L ONE AND L THREE.

THANK YOU MS. POEY.

BOARD MEMBERS, ARE THERE ANY SEPARATIONS REQUESTED? MS. LESKI? THANK YOU.

IF WE CAN PLEASE SEPARATE, UM, THE TECHNOLOGY POLICY 62 0 2.

ANYONE ELSE? OKAY.

MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE BOARD'S POLICY REVIEW COMMITTEE FOR BOARD POLICIES? 37 20

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AND 4,008 MOVED.

DOKI, THANK YOU.

NO SECOND IS NEEDED.

SINCE THE RECOMMENDATION COMES FROM THE COMMITTEE, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY, MS. FONG? MS. FONG, YOU HAVE A COMMENT ABOUT ONE OF THOSE TWO POLICIES? I DO NOT.

IS IT SHOWING MY HAND RAISED? IT IS.

THERE'S NO DISCUSSION.

MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE PLEASE.

MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE BOARD'S POLICY REVIEW COMMITTEE FOR BOARD POLICY 62 0 2.

SO MOVED.

LESKI.

NO SECOND IS NEEDED SINCE A RECOMMENDATION COMES FROM THE COMMITTEE, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, MS. LESKI? THANK YOU.

I JUST WANNA THANK, UM, MS. GARRETT FROM SCHOOLS BEYOND SCREENS FOR HER CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE ONGOING DISCUSSIONS THAT WE CONTINUE TO HAVE ABOUT TECHNOLOGY.

AND I KNOW THE REQUEST WAS MADE TO POSTPONE THE PASSING OF THIS POLICY UNTIL WE COULD LOOK MORE CLOSELY AT IT.

AND I DO THINK THAT THAT WOULD MAKE, UM, GOOD SENSE, UM, IS TO LOOK AT THE POLICY AGAIN AND MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE ARE DOING THE BEST BY STUDENTS IN TERMS OF MAKING DECISIONS FOR SCREEN TIME.

ARE YOU MAKING A MOTION, MS. LESKI? UH, YES.

DO YOU WANT ME TO STATE THERE'S A MOTION? OKAY.

MOVE FORWARD.

NEVERMIND.

UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, MS. EY? I WOULD JUST AS PART OF POLICY REVIEW COMMITTEE REQUEST MORE SPECIFIC INFORMATION SINCE WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS ALREADY, JUST SO THAT AS A COMMITTEE, WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT US TO REVIEW.

UM, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL BECAUSE OFTENTIMES IF WE JUST RETURN A POLICY WITHOUT KNOWING SPECIFICS, WE'RE NOT DOING JUSTICE TO REVIEWING THE POLICY WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.

YEAH.

NO, UM, I MEAN, I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LIKE LOOK OVER THE POLICY, BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT THAT REQUEST WAS MADE.

UM, SO I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE, I MEAN, I CAN CERTAINLY GET THEM TO GET THEM IN THE NEXT DAY OR SO.

I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T MEAN RIGHT NOW.

I APOLOGIZE.

I JUST MEANT BEFORE WE REVIEW IT AGAIN.

YES, ABSOLUTELY.

IF YOU COULD PLEASE PROVIDE SOME INPUT AS FAR AS, AND ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS ALSO ANY INPUT YOU THAT YOU HAVE AS FAR AS WHAT YOU WANT US TO LOOK AT AS A COMMITTEE.

ABSOLUTELY.

I WAS JUST STATING IT IN RESPONSE TO THE, UM, THE COMMUNITY REQUEST.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? MS. HEN? UM, MADAM CHAIR, I BELIEVE A MOTION TO POSTPONE WOULD SUPERSEDE THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING.

BEFORE I WOULD MAKE THAT MOTION, I MOVE TO POSTPONE THE VOTE ON POLICY 62 0 2 TO A DATE AND TIME TO BE DETERMINED BY THE POLICY REVIEW COMMITTEE.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON MS. HEN'S MOTION? MAY HAVE A YES.

I I I, SORRY IF THIS DOESN'T GO HERE, BUT I'M ALSO WONDERING IF WE COULD ADD TO IT.

THERE MIGHT BE A NEED FOR A ADDITIONAL POLICY WHEN IT COMES TO LIKE SPECIFICALLY TECH AND SCREEN TIME, NOT JUST ACCEPTABLE USE.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT GOES IN THIS CONVERSATION, BUT I JUST THINK I WANTED TO ADD IT TO THERE.

MS. HEN, MAY I COMMENT? THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE MS. DOKI SUGGESTION.

I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE A SEPARATE MOTION AND I WOULD SUPPORT THAT MOTION, BUT I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE BEST MADE AS A SEPARATE MOTION.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION TO POSTPONE AND SEND POLICY 62 0 2 BACK TO COMMITTEE? MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.

THANK YOU TO THAT.

MOTION PASSES.

DO I NEED, I DON'T GO BACK TO THE OTHER MOTION TO APPROVE THE BUDGET, I MEAN TO APPROVE THAT, RIGHT? OKAY.

IS THERE ANOTHER MOTION THAT SOMEBODY WANTED TO MAKE AT THIS POINT? ARE WE OKAY?

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UM, MS. ONG, IS YOUR HAND UP ABOUT THIS? NOT UP? IT ISN'T WISE IT UP ON MINE.

IT'S NOT.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING ON.

WELL, I'M YOUR HAND'S UP FOR ME, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

UM, .

OKAY, THEN WE ARE DONE THAT.

THANK YOU EVERYONE.

NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS ACTION TAKEN IN CLOSED SESSION, AND FOR THAT I CALL MR. BURNS MADAM CHAIR.

[M. NEW BUSINESS - ACTION TAKEN IN CLOSED SESSION (Board Counsel) (7:55 - 8:00 p.m.)]

CONGRATULATIONS.

VICE CHAIR YOUNG.

WELCOME DR.

HEISER, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD EARLIER THIS EVENING IN CLOSED SESSION, THE BOARD REVIEWED AN, UH, TOOK ACTION ON S UH, APPEALS, SDA 26 DASH ZERO SIX, AND SDA 26 DASH ZERO SEVEN, AND THAT WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE TIME FOR YOU TO AFFIRM THAT ACTION.

THANK YOU, MR. BURNS.

MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ACTION TAKEN ENCLOSED SESSION ON HEARING EXAMINER CASES SDA 26 DASH 0 0 6 AND SDA 26 DASH ZERO SEVEN AND AUTHORIZE MS. GOR TO SIGN FOR THOSE BOARD MEMBERS NOT PHYSICALLY PRESENT? SO MOVE PUMPHREY.

MAY I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND HAND.

ANY DISCUSSION? MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE PLEASE.

ON THE AGENDA IS NEW BUSINESS BOARD POLICIES.

THE NEXT ITEM

[N. NEW BUSINESS - BOARD POLICIES (Ms. Pumphrey) (8:00 - 8:10 p.m.)]

THIS IS THE FIRST READER FOR THIS POLICY, AND FOR THAT I CALL ON MS. CHRISTINA PUMPHREY, CHAIR OF THE POLICY REVIEW COMMITTEE.

MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, THE POLICY REVIEW COMMITTEE, ASK THAT THE BOARD ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION ON THE, EXCUSE ME, OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO BOARD POLICY ZERO 100 EQUITY.

THIS POLICY IS PRESENTED TO YOU ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA AS EXHIBIT N ONE.

THANK YOU MEMBERS.

OOPS.

MS. HUMPHREY, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE BOARD'S POLICY REVIEW COMMITTEE FOR BOARD POLICY ZERO 100? SO MOVE YOUNG.

NO SECOND IS NEEDED.

SINCE THE RECOMMENDATION COMES FROM THE COMMITTEE, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, MS. EY? I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MEMBERS, IF POSSIBLE, OF THE EQUITY COMMITTEE WHO I BELIEVE AT THE TIME I WAS NOT ON THE EQUITY COMMITTEE, ALTHOUGH I AM NOW REGARDING, UM, IT'S G THAT'S BEING REMOVED.

IMPLICIT BIAS, UH, SORRY, I'M TRYING TO FIND THE PAGE.

IT'S PAGE FOUR OF THE POLICY.

AND IF I'M LOOKING AT THE HIGHLIGHTS CORRECTLY, IT LOOKS LIKE THE EQUITY COMMITTEE SUGGESTED THAT THAT BE REMOVED.

AND I'D JUST LIKE TO HEAR THE RATIONALE BEHIND THAT.

IF, IF ANYONE RECALLS, UM, MS. FONG, I KNOW YOU'RE CHAIR OF THE EQUITY COMMITTEE, DO YOU RECALL THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE ELIMINATION OF THAT PHRASE? I AM LOOKING NOW, SO IF I COULD HAVE A COUPLE MOMENTS, I CAN TRY TO SEE.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, WE SHOULD PROBABLY KEEP THAT DEFINITION, MS. HUMPHREY.

IT IS IN DEFINITION, SO THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK OF AS WE WERE TRYING TO BE CONSISTENT, AND IF IMPLICIT BIAS WAS NOT USED ELSEWHERE, THEN THAT'S WHERE WE TRIED TO REMOVE THINGS.

UM, S INCLUDED IN SECTION ONE B AS PART OF OUR NEW WORK, AND WE ADDED THAT.

SO THAT SOUNDS INCONSISTENT.

IT LOOKS LIKE, ACTUALLY WE SHOULD PROBABLY KEEP IT BECAUSE WE DID ADD LANGUAGE THAT TALKS ABOUT IMPLICIT BIAS, AND THE IDEA WAS JUST AN UNDERSTANDING WITH THIS DEFINITION SECTION TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY WAS ON THE SAME PAGE AS TO WHAT WE MEANT WITHIN THE POLICY.

SO THANK YOU, MS. EY, IT SOUNDS LIKE

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SO I, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO KEEP THE DEFINITION OF IMPLICIT BIAS UNDER THE LIST OF DEFINITIONS THAT WAS FORMERLY G IT WILL HAVE TO BE RE-LET, BUT I'D LIKE TO A MOTION TO KEEP THAT DEFINITION AND I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? CAN YOU REPEAT THAT ONE MORE TIME? MS. HUMPHREY MOVE TO KEEP THE DEFINITION IMPLICIT BIAS UNDER THE LI LIST OF DEFINITIONS, WHICH WAS PREVIOUSLY LETTER G.

ANY DISCUSSION? MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.

OH, OH, MS N THANK YOU.

I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE, UM, POLICY MARKUP NOW, AND IT SEEMS THAT THAT SECTION OF THE POLICY MIGHT DEFINE IMPLICIT BIAS WITHIN THE, UM, BODY OF THE POLICY ITSELF, WHICH COULD BE WHY THE DEFINITION WAS ELIMINATED, BECAUSE IT'S REDUNDANT TO THE POLICY ITSELF.

SO I'M LOOKING AT THE LANGUAGE AND JUST SCANNED IT VERY QUICKLY.

BUT IT APPEARS THAT THE DEFINITION CAN BE INHERENT IN THE, UM, UNDER ONE B.

SO BEFORE WE VOTE TO PUT IT BACK IN, I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE INTENT TO ELIMINATE IT, BECAUSE THE DEFINITION IS REDUNDANT.

MS. HUMPHREY? I'M LOOKING AT, OKAY, I'M LOOKING AT THAT NOW BECAUSE I READ THAT TOO, BUT I'M NOT SEEING THAT AS A DEFINITION.

ARE YOU, UM, TALKING UNDER POLICY STATEMENT? YES.

UNDER ONE B AND CHAIR LICHTER? WE DO HAVE, UM, I BELIEVE SOME STAFF MEMBERS, OUR STAFF, THESE ON, I DON'T KNOW IF HE ALSO COULD GIVE SOME CONTEXT TO THIS.

MR. HANDY, DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL CONTEXT LATER? IF YOU, IF YOU DON'T, THAT'S OKAY.

I CAN.

COME ON.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

UM, JUST WANNA STAY FOR THE RECORD.

UH, SO APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION.

SO, UH, IF I RECALL THIS CORRECTLY, AND YOU CAN SEE IT FROM THE DATES, THIS POLICY HAS BEEN IN THE REVISION FOR A COUPLE YEARS.

ALL THE DEFINITIONS AT ONE POINT WERE REMOVED FROM THE POLICY, AND MY RECOLLECTION WAS THAT THE STATEMENT, UM, AND B, ABOUT IMPLICIT BIAS WAS ADDED BACK, HOWEVER, THE DEFINITION WASN'T ADDED BACK.

SO, UM, AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT MS. N MENTIONED ABOUT THE LANGUAGE AROUND THAT, AND B AND THEN WHAT MS. HUMPHREY'S SAYING.

SO I WOULD AGREE IF, IF THE BOARD DECIDES TO INCLUDE THAT STATEMENT, ROMAN NUMER ONE, LETTER B, UM, I WOULD AGREE THAT THE DEFINITION OF IMPLICIT BIAS WOULD BE THERE AS WELL.

AND THAT WAS CONSISTENT WITH THE DISCUSSIONS THAT BOARD MEMBERS HAD IN THE EQUITY COMMITTEE, AS WELL AS THE POLICY REVIEW COMMITTEE.

IF A STATEMENT APPEARED IN THE POLICY, THERE SHOULD BE A DEFINITION TO GO ALONG WITH IT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

YEP, YOU'RE WELCOME, DR.

HANDY.

YEAH, YOU'RE WELCOME.

MS. CLICKER.

MS. ANI, COMMENT FURTHER.

NO, I AGREE.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY, SO WE'RE STILL VOTING ON, WE STILL VOTING ON YOUR MOTION.

MAY I HAVE A YOU WANNA RESTATE IT ONE MORE TIME SO EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE VOTING FOR? .

I MOVE TO INCLUDE, TO INCLUDE, CONTINUE TO INCLUDE THE DEFINITION OF IMPLICIT BIAS, WHICH WAS FORMALLY UNDER DEFINITIONS LETTER G.

MR. FITZPATRICK.

DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? UH, JUST A QUESTION OF, UH, PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE THAT A MOTION TO AMEND TO INCLUDE.

DO WE HAVE A PREVIOUS MOTION FOR THE BOARD TO APPROVE THAT RECOMMENDATION? I DON'T THINK THIS IS TO AMEND.

I, I IS THIS TO AMEND MR. BURNS, WAS THERE A PRIMARY MOTION MADE? WAS IT, WAS IT, WAS IT SECONDED? YES.

I, AND IT WAS TO APPROVE THE POLICY? WELL, NO SECOND WAS NEEDED 'CAUSE THE RECOMMENDATION.

OH, BECAUSE IT'S FROM THE COMMITTEE RIGHT.

POINT OF ORDER.

I DO BELIEVE MY FIRST MOTION WAS MOTION TO AMEND.

NOW THAT I'M THINKING BACK.

THANK YOU MR. FITZPATRICK.

I JUST, SO IT'S MOTION TO AMEND TO INCLUDE IMPLICIT BIAS AS THE DEFINITIONS.

I APOLOGIZE FOR MISSTATING THAT THE SECOND TIME.

NO WORRIES.

MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE ON THE AMENDED MOTION? ON THE MOTION TO AMEND THE MOTION TO AMEND.

THEN WE'RE GONNA DO MS. HUMPHREY.

MR. UH, MS. THORNTON? YES.

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THANK YOU, MS. HUMPHREY.

I HAVE ANOTHER MOTION TO AMENDS.

PLEASE.

JUST GO AHEAD.

I WANT, I MOVED TO AMEND, UM, ONE B LINE 22 BY STRIKING FOR ALL STUDENTS AFTER THE WORD GAPS AND INSERTING FOR ALL STUDENTS BETWEEN THE WORDS ACHIEVEMENT AND, AND ON LINE 2221, I MEAN, SORRY.

OKAY, CAN YOU RESTATE THAT ONE MORE TIME? YES.

I MOVE TO AMEND BY UNDER ONE B, STRIKING LINE 22, EXCUSE ME.

STRIKING FOR ALL STUDENTS AFTER THE WORD GAPS AND INSERTING BETWEEN THE WORDS ACHIEVEMENT AND, AND ON LINE 22 FOR ALL STUDENTS.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOUR AMENDED? I JUST, UM, WE HAD A PUBLIC SPEAKER WHO MENTIONED THAT TODAY AND READING IT THROUGH THAT WAY, IT SOUNDS BETTER TO ME TO ADD THAT MORE APPROPRIATE TO ME TO ADD THE, TO MOVE THOSE TERMS BETWEEN, SO IT WOULD READ THE BOARD PRIORITIZES RAISING ACHIEVEMENT AND CLOSING ACHIEVEMENT GAPS.

I MEAN, EXCUSE ME.

THE BOARD PRI PRIORITIZES RAISING ACHIEVEMENT FOR ALL STUDENT STUDENTS AND CLOSING ACHIEVEMENT GAPS.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE PLEASE.

MS. FITZPATRICK? YES.

MS. TER? YES.

SO NOW I BELIEVE WE NEED TO HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THE ORIGINAL MOTION AS AMENDED.

ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS CONTRACT AWARDS.

[O. NEW BUSINESS - CONTRACT AWARDS (Mr. Tantleff) (8:10 - 8:25 p.m.)]

AND FOR THAT I CALL MR. YOUNG CHAIR OF THE BUILDING AND CONTRACTS COMMITTEE.

MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, THE BOARD'S BUILDING AND CONTRACTS COMMITTEE MET ON MONDAY, JULY 13TH, 2026.

NEW ITEMS OH TWO THROUGH OH 12 WERE FORWARDED TO THE FULL BOARD FOR APPROVAL.

ITEM OH ONE WAS POSTPONED BY THE COMMITTEE UNTIL THE NEXT BUILDING AND CONTRACTS COMMITTEE MEETING ON AUGUST 10TH, 2026.

THANK YOU, MR. YOUNG BOARD MEMBERS.

ARE THERE ANY SEPARATIONS BEING REQUESTED? MS. HUMPHREY, CAN WE PLEASE SEPARATE NUMBER SIX JBO 7 1 6 2 3.

ANY OTHER SEPARATIONS? OKAY, MS. HEN, UM, NOT A SEPARATION, BUT A COMMENT ON NUMBER SIX, IF I MAY, OR IF MR. YOUNG WOULD COMMENT ON THE MOTION PASSED BY THE COMMITTEE ON NUMBER SIX.

UM, LET'S DO, LET'S VOTE ON THE OTHER ONES, THEN COME BACK TO SIX AND USE THAT AS A DISCUSSION POINT.

OKAY, SO MAY, UM, I HAVE A, WE DID THE MOTION RIGHT, ? NO.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE NEW ITEMS? ZERO TWO THROUGH ZERO FIVE AND ZERO SEVEN THROUGH ZERO 12.

SO MOVED KY.

NO SECOND IS NEEDED SINCE THE RECOMMENDATION COMES FROM THE COMMITTEE.

ANY DISCUSSION ON OH TWO THROUGH OH FIVE AND OH SEVEN THROUGH OH 12? OKAY.

MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE ON THOSE ITEMS. OOPS, CHAIR, THIS IS MS. FONG.

I HAVE MY HAND RAISED.

GO AHEAD, MS. FP.

THIS TECHNOLOGY IS WACKY.

IT'S RAISING MY HEAD WHEN I DON'T WANT IT.

RAISE MY MINE'S TEAMS IS FROZEN, SO I'M USING MY NEW VICE CHAIR TO HELP ME.

UM, SO I JUST HAVE QUESTIONS ON A COUPLE OF THE CONTRACTS.

SO FOR THESE STATISTICS, WHICH IS, UM, OH THREE, THIS IS TEXT OR DIGITAL ACCESS, UM, HOW MANY SEATS IS THIS SOMETHING WHERE WE ACTUALLY HAVE A NUMBER OF SEATS FOR STATISTICS? SO THE CONTRACT ITSELF, IT SOUNDS LIKE IS BEING EXTENDED, BUT HOW MANY SEATS ACTUALLY USE FOR, FOR THIS? WE'RE WAITING FOR

[01:50:03]

UH, I APOLOGIZE, BUT I DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT, UH, QUESTION.

AND NO ONE'S HERE FROM, UH, CNI WHO CAN ANSWER THAT RIGHT NOW.

UM, OKAY.

UM, AND THEN THE NEXT QUESTION IS DEI SIX 20, WHICH IS NUMBER TWO, THE ONLINE DIGITAL CONTENT PRODUCTS.

UM, I GUESS IF WE HAVE NO ONE FROM C AND I, I'M NOT SURE IF WE HAVE THE ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION EITHER, BUT THESE DIGITAL CONTENT PRODUCTS, ARE THEY ACTUALLY IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR CURRICULUM, OR DO THEY INCLUDE SOME OF THE PRODUCTS THAT WERE MENTIONED BY, UM, OUR PUBLIC SPEAKERS THIS EVENING? I, I MEAN, UH, THAT WOULD INCLUDE THIS SPECIFIC PRODUCT, WHICH IS IN OUR CURRICULUM.

W WHAT IS THE PRODUCT THEN? I THINK IT'S WORLD BOOKS, OR I BELIEVE, I'M SORRY.

I BELIEVE THAT WORLD BOOK IS USED AS REFERENCE MATERIAL AND PROQUEST MAY BE A PART OF THE CURRICULUM, BUT I CAN'T SPEAK FOR ABSOLUTE CERTAIN.

HERE COMES ANOTHER PERSON.

MR. CORNS.

UH, APOLOGIES.

UH, GOOD EVENING BOARD, UH, CHAIR LECTER.

UH, UM, I CAN GIVE YOU THE NON AUTHORITATIVE, UH, ANSWER BECAUSE I SUPERVISED THIS GROUP, UH, MANY YEARS AGO.

UH, THE WORLD BOOK AND, UH, PRODUCTS COMING FROM THE, UH, MDK 12 ARE PREDOMINANTLY, UH, RESOURCE MATERIALS LIKE, UH, ENCYCLOPEDIA STYLE, UH, GOOD FOR RESEARCH REFERENCING OF THAT NATURE.

SO THEY ARE A, A UNIVERSAL TOOL THAT IS, UH, PROCURED THROUGH A CONTRACT THAT, UH, MOST ALL OF THE STATE OF MARYLAND'S, UH, LEAS UTILIZE FOR RESEARCH CAPABILITIES.

SO, UH, THAT, THAT TOOL WAS NOT SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED THIS EVENING AT ALL.

AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE REFERENCE PRODUCTS, THEY'RE NOT KIND OF THESE GAMES OR THESE, THE SOFTWARE THAT'S, UM, TO PRACTICE MATH OR PRACTICE READING TYPE OF, OF SOFTWARES.

AND THEN, UM, THE NEXT QUESTION IS JUST, I GUESS IN GENERAL TOO, FOR THE NEXT GO ROUND, BUT THE CONTRACTS, THE PRIORITIES, UM, I'M GUESSING IT'LL MATCH WHAT THE CURRENT PRIORITIES ARE THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED BY DR.

'CAUSE WE HAVE THE FOUR NEW ONES, BUT FOR EXAMPLE, THEY ON THE CONTRACT CWA 1 0 9 DASH TWO ZERO, IT'S STILL IDENTIFIES LIKE AS THE PRIORITY, HIGHLY EFFECTIVE TEACHERS, LEADERS, AND STAFF.

AND THAT'S NOT ONE OF OUR PRIORITIES AT THIS POINT.

YES, MA'AM.

THESE, THESE EXHIBITS WERE PREPARED A MONTH AND A HALF AGO.

SO AT THAT TIME, WE DID NOT HAVE THE UPDATED LIST OF PRIORITIES.

THOSE WILL BE UPDATED FOR THE NEXT BOARD MEETING.

PERFECT.

AND THEN THE LAST ONE ON, UH, THE METALWOOD LEASE, WHICH IS NTA 5 0 2 DASH 27 11, UM, WHICH IS OH 11.

UM, DID WE RECEIVE A DEDUCTION OR ANY TYPE OF DISCOUNT FOR BEING LIKE A LONGSTANDING TENANT? UM, 'CAUSE THE PREVIOUS CONTRACT WAS FOR 24 YEARS, AND THEN NOW THIS LEASE IS SAYING IT'S FOR ANOTHER FIVE YEARS.

AND I SAW THAT THE DOCUMENT NOTED THAT THE, THE CONTRACT WAS NEGOTIATED.

UM, IN THIS CONTRACT, A NEW, UH, LANDLORD TOOK OVER THE BUILDING AND BECAUSE THE INITIAL CONTRACT HAD BEEN, UH, SO OLD BCPS INITIATED A NEW CONTRACT WITH THE NEW LANDLORD TO KIND OF FRESHEN UP ALL OF THE ITEMS IN THE CONTRACT JUST BECAUSE THE OTHER ONE WAS SO OLD.

ANYTHING ELSE? I DO KNOW THAT THE NEW, THE PRICE WITH THE NEW LANDLORD IS THE SAME PRICE THAT WE WERE PAYING WITH THE OLD LANDLORD, SO I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WAS A FURTHER DISCOUNT NEGOTIATED WITH THE NEW LANDLORD.

WHEN A NEW LANDLORD COMES IN, THEY MAY WANT TO DO SOME WORK TO BRIGHTEN UP THEIR SPACE.

SO THEN WHAT WAS ACTUALLY NEGOTIATED, BECAUSE THE DOCUMENT SAYS THAT THE CONTRACT WAS NEGOTIATED, THERE ARE VARIOUS TERMS IN EACH LEASE, WHICH ARE NEGOTIATED, AND THOSE MAY INCLUDE ANY, UM, WORK THAT'S DONE TO THE FACILITY, PERHAPS TO FRESHEN THE FACILITY, PARTICULARLY

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UM, THOSE WOULD HAVE BEEN NEGOTIATED.

THE, UM, THERE ARE TERMS THAT WOULD, WE WOULD NEGOTIATE IN ANY CONTRACT.

UM, OUR REGULAR TERMINATION CLAUSES, OUR INDEMNIFICATION CLAUSES THAT APPEAR IN ALL OF OUR CONTRACTS, ALL OF WHEN WE NEGOTIATE WITH A NEW SUPPLIER, ALL OF THOSE TERMS ARE REVISITED AND, UM, ENSURE THAT BOTH PARTIES AGREE TO THEM.

AND I THINK WE HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FOR YOU, MS. FONG ALSO JUST, I WANTED TO GO BACK TO THE DIGITAL, UH, RESOURCES THAT WERE SPOKEN ABOUT E EARLIER.

UM, AND THANK YOU TO THE TEAM MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE AT THE TABLE AS WELL AS MR. KORN AND MR. CORN'S ACCURATE IN HIS DESCRIPTION OF THAT.

JUST THAT IT'S IN, THEY'RE IN FULL SUPPORT OF THE CURRICULUM AND ALIGNMENT THERE, SO THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.

THANK YOU, MS. , DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I AM CHECKING REALLY QUICK, TRYING TO GO BACK TO MY NOTES, AND I THINK THAT'S EVERYTHING.

SO THANK YOU TO EVERYONE FOR, UM, ANSWERING ALL MY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, MS. DOKI.

THIS ACTUALLY WORKS, IS A FOLLOW UP TO THE MEADOW.

WHAT IS OUR UTILIZATION AT THE MEADOW WOOD FACILITY? ARE WE, I MEAN, WHAT'S THE CAPACITY? WHAT WOULD, I'M SORRY.

I DO NOT KNOW THAT INFORMATION.

DO, WOULD WE BE, COULD WE GET THAT AT SOME POINT JUST TO SEE IF WHAT, LIKE ABSOLUTELY WE'RE OKAY.

WE'LL FIND THE ANSWERS FOR YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

SO WE ARE STILL, UM, ON ITEMS TWO THROUGH FIVE AND THEN SEVEN THROUGH 12.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE WE DO A ROLL CALL? VOTE .

MS. GOVER? MS. HUMPHREY? YES.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM SIX.

SO MOVED.

SOES.

ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE CONTRACT SIX.

NO SECOND IS NEEDED SINCE THE RECOMMENDATION COMES FROM THE COMMITTEE DISCUSSION ON ITEM SIX.

MS. HEN? THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.

UM, THE COMMITTEE ALSO PASSED A MOTION IN REGARDS TO ITEM SIX, AND I WOULD ASK IF COMMITTEE CHAIR YOUNG WOULD MIND SHARING THAT MOTION WITH THE BOARD.

THE MOTION THAT WAS PASSED WAS, AND I'M GONNA READ THE EXACT MOTION I MOVE THAT THE COMMITTEE RECOMMEND TO THE RECOMMEND THAT THE BOARD REQUEST THE OFFICE OF INTERNAL AUDIT SCHEDULE AND COMPLETE AN AUDIT OF PAST AND PLANNED EXPENDITURES ON CONTRACT JBO DASH 716 DASH 23 ENTERPRISE RESOURCE PLANNING SYSTEM AGAINST PROJECTED DELIVERABLES.

SO THAT WAS THE MOTION THAT WAS PASSED.

I HAVE, UM, SPOKEN WITH MS. BARR TO, AND I WAS PARTIALLY CORRECT ON THE FY 27 WORK PLAN.

UM, THERE IS A, UM, ITEM FOR THE ERP SYSTEM, BUT THAT IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS DONE EARLIER AS FAR AS THE CONTROLS FOR THE NEWLY IMPLEMENTED MODELS TO, UM, ENSURE THAT THE DATA CAME OVER CORRECTLY, THAT THE PERMISSIONS ARE SET CORRECTLY.

UM, SO THAT IS WHAT'S CURRENTLY IN THE, THE WORK PLAN.

UH, WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO UNDERSTAND PRIOR TO, UH, MODIFYING THAT WORK PLAN AND BRINGING IT BACK TO THE BOARD IS THE SCOPE OF WHAT IS BEING ASKED.

SO IS IT JUST WE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, THE CONTRACT WAS FOR THIS AMOUNT, WE SPENT THIS AMOUNT, OR IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE MAY BE LOOKING FOR OR WOULD LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, UM, BIND OUT? GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU MR. YOUNG FOR THAT.

UM, I WOULD MOVE TO AMEND THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO ADD THAT THE BOARD ASKS THE AUDIT COMMITTEE TO WORK WITH MS. BARR TO, ON AN INTERNAL AUDIT OF THE EXPENDITURES ON THIS CONTRACT.

WHEN YOU SAID CHANGE, YOU DON'T MEAN THE MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM SIX.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TO YESTERDAY'S TO APP.

WITH THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION PROVIDED BY MR. YOUNG, GIVEN THAT AND GIVEN THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION TO ASK INTERNAL AUDIT TO AUDIT THE EXPENDITURES ON THIS CONTRACT, I AM MOVING TO AMEND THE MOTION

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IN ADDITION TO, TO APPROVE CONTRACT SIX AND TO ASK THE AUDIT COMMITTEE TO WORK WITH MS. BARR TO DEFINE THE SCOPE OF AN AUDIT OF THE EXPENDITURES ON THIS CONTRACT PAST AND FUTURE.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND DOKI.

FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDED MOTION.

MR. DOKI, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, WHEN WE WERE BRINGING UP THIS AUDIT PLAN REPORT, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE ERP, I ACTUALLY ASKED THAT QUESTION ABOUT HOW DEEP WE WERE GONNA GO INTO IT, AND I WANTED TO SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS THE FINANCIALS, THE EXPENDITURES, AND IT WAS KIND OF LIKE, HOW DO WE WANNA GO ABOUT IT? HOW? LIKE, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU WANT.

SO ASKING US A DIRECTIVE IN THIS WAY WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL IN, IN NARROWING IT DOWN.

AND I THINK THE AUDIT COMMITTEE SHOULD CONSIDER THIS.

THERE WERE OTHER HANDS, MR. FITZPATRICK? OH, YES.

UH, MS. HENRY, DO YOU WANNA AMEND THAT TO, UH, AT A TIMEFRAME? THANK YOU, MR. FITZPATRICK.

UM, WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS IN COMMITTEE, I LEFT THE TIMEFRAME OPEN TO ALLOW INTERNAL AUDIT THE FLEXIBILITY GIVEN THAT THE BOARD HAS ALREADY APPROVED THEIR WORK PLAN FOR THE COMING FISCAL YEAR.

UM, I APPRECIATE THE SUGGESTION AND, AND NORMALLY I WOULD PUT A TIMEFRAME TO THAT, BUT GIVEN THEIR WORKLOAD AND LIMITED STAFF CAPACITY, I WANTED THEM TO HAVE A, A BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY.

BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE SUGGESTION.

I BELIEVE, WAS THERE ANOTHER HAND? I, MAY I SPEAK TO MY MOTION? YES, MADAM CHAIR.

UM, AND THANK YOU MS. DOKI FOR THE COMMENTS.

I BELIEVE THE, THE BOARD HAS REQUESTED GREATER TRANSPARENCY AND CLARITY AROUND THE EXPENDITURES ON THIS CONTRACT, GIVEN THE SIZE AND COMPLEXITY OF THE PROJECT.

AND I DID EXPRESS IN COMMITTEE THAT I APPRECIATED THE PRESENTATION AT OUR LAST MEETING AROUND THE STAT, THE OPERATIONAL STATUS OF THE PROJECT.

THAT WAS EXTREMELY HELPFUL.

UM, I ALSO BELIEVE THE PUBLIC HAS ASKED FOR GREATER CLARITY AND TRANS AND TRANSPARENCY AROUND THE EXPENDITURES AS WELL.

SO I BELIEVE THIS WILL ALLOW US TO PROVIDE THAT AND ALSO TO BUILD GREATER TRUST WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AROUND THIS PROJECT AS WELL.

SO I LOOK FORWARD TO, UM, WORKING WITH INTERNAL AUDIT FOR THE AUDIT COMMITTEE TO WORK WITH MS. BARR AND HER TEAM ON, ON PROVIDING THAT IN A COMPREHENSIVE REPORT.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

I, I HAVE TO SAY, I STILL HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT APPROVING, UM, THIS AMOUNT.

WE DID HEAR A PRESENTATION AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING IN ABOUT JUNE 9TH, 2026.

UM, BUT WHAT CONCERNS ME IS THAT WE'RE STILL JUST CONTINUING TO HAVE THESE OVERAGES, AND IT'S NOT CLEAR TO ME HOW WE'RE GETTING, HOW DO WE GET TO 8 MILLION THIS TIME AND DO WE REALLY KNOW OR UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S ENOUGH? UM, I THINK THERE WAS A 1.25 MILLION, THERE WAS SOME MONEY INCLUDED, UM, FOR A CONTINGENCY, BUT AGAIN, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT, IT HASN'T BEEN ENOUGH.

SO AT WHAT POINT DO WE REALLY KIND OF GET A HANDLE ON THIS, GET AN ASSESSMENT, AND HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IT IS THAT WE NEED FROM THE SYSTEM AND THEN GET, GET IT, AND THEN ALSO GET IT, UM, GET IT PAID FOR WITHOUT HAVING TO CONTINUE TO ASK FOR THESE OVERAGES? SO, UM, I'M NOT, YEAH, I'M, I'M, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THIS.

I DO THINK I AM PART OF THE AUDIT COMMITTEE, AND WE HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT AUDITING ERP, AND THERE HAVE BEEN SOME AUDITS DONE.

BUT MY CONCERN IS THAT IF WE SEND IT BACK TO THE AUDIT, AGAIN, WE HAVE TO BE VERY SPECIFIC, I THINK, IN WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, AS WELL AS UNDERSTANDING THAT WHEN THEY DO SAMPLING, THEY'RE SAMPLING AND THE WAY THEY DO IT IS, IS, IS ON A SMALLER SCALE OR IT'S A CERTAIN SCALE.

UM, SO I THINK WE HAVE TO BE REALLY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE EXPENDITURES.

I DON'T KNOW, HONESTLY IF THE AUDIT COMMITTEE IS THE BEST WAY TO GET THAT INFORMATION.

UM, THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS.

BUT I AGREE THAT WE DO NEED TO GET A HANDLE ON THE MONEY AND AS WELL AS UNDERSTANDING WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE SPENDING ON THIS IMPLEMENTATION OF ERP MS. ONG.

I DID ASK DURING COMMITTEE YESTERDAY CONTRACTS FOR MORE, UM, EXPLANATION ON WHAT THIS 8 MILLION WAS.

FOUR.

WOULD THAT HELP? WOULD YOU LIKE THAT QUESTION ANSWERED? YES.

IF THEY CAN PRESENT THAT INFORMATION.

MR. CORNS GAVE A, HE ANSWERED IT FOR ME YESTERDAY, SO I THINK HE'LL REPEAT THAT ANSWER.

DIFFERENT ASSUMPTIONS ARE MADE

UM, HI.

I CAN, UH, START THE EXPLANATION AND THEN, UH, MR. KOS WILL, WILL, UH, ADD ON.

SO, UH, WITH A PROJECT, THIS SCOPE, AS WE DISCUSSED THIS MONTH, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS AND IT'S HARD TO KNOW ALL OF THE DIFFERENT PARTICULARS IN THE SCOPE.

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OF HOW MUCH SUPPORT, WHAT THE COMPLEXITY, IT'LL BE, THE SCOPE OF THE REPORTING, HOW MUCH REPORTING WILL NEED TO BE DEVELOPED, UM, HOW MANY RESOURCES WILL NEED TO BE, UM, SUPPLIED BY THE VENDOR IBM IN THIS CASE.

AND IT'S, UH, DIFFICULT FOR ANY ORGANIZATION TO GET THAT PRECISE RIGHT OFF THE BAT.

SO WE'VE BEEN VERY MINDFUL AS WE'VE GONE ALONG, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN, UM, SEVERAL THINGS THAT WE'VE COME ACROSS.

WE HAD TO, UH, EXTEND THE PROJECT SEVERAL TIMES.

ONE WAS LAST YEAR FOR PAYROLL, UM, TO ALLOW, UH, TO ADHERE TO TAB CO'S UH, CONCERNS ABOUT GOING TO ARREARS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR.

UH, THE PROJECT ON THE FINANCIALS DUE TO, UH, A VARIETY OF THINGS HAD TO BE EXTENDED.

THIS YEAR, UM, OUR SUPPORT LEVEL HAS INCREASED OVER TIME.

WHAT WE'VE REALIZED THAT WE'VE REQUIRED, AS I MENTIONED WITH THE REPORTING, THERE REALLY WASN'T ENOUGH IN THE SCOPE INITIALLY.

UM, AND SO IT'S THE CUMULATION OF A NUMBER OF THINGS OVER TIME.

IT'S NOT ONE THING, IT'S NOT THE FUTURE TWO YEARS, IT'S JUST OVER THE THREE PLUS YEARS WE'VE BEEN ON THE PROJECT, WE'VE REALLY UNDERSTOOD BETTER WHAT'S REQUIRED, UM, TO GO INTO THE PROJECT.

AND AS WE'VE DEFINED THOSE THINGS, THE COSTS, UM, HAVE, UH, INCREASED AS WE'RE, UH, THE REASON FOR US REQUESTING THE EXTRA 8 MILLION TO GET US THROUGH 2028 TONIGHT, MR. CORNS.

SO, UH, THANK YOU MR. TANIFF.

AS, AS, UH, MR. TANIFF SPOKE TO, UH, WE STARTED THIS PROJECT, UM, HAVING COME OFF OF OUR CURRENT ERP SYSTEM, WHICH HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR 20 YEARS.

SO WE WENT INTO IT, WE REQUESTED WHAT WE NEEDED, UM, AND TOOK A BEST GUESS ESTIMATE AT HOW MANY REPORTS WE MIGHT NEED AND WHAT SERVICES MIGHT NEED TO BE PROVIDED.

UM, THE TRANSITION FROM OUR CURRENT VENDOR TO ORACLE HAS ALSO BROUGHT SOME, UM, NEW CHANGES TO THE WAY SOFTWARE IS MANAGED AND UTILIZED.

FOR EXAMPLE, ORACLE RELEASES A PATCH EVERY QUARTER.

EACH ONE OF THOSE PATCHES THAT ORACLE RELEASES DOES RUN THE RISK OF BREAKING SOME OF OUR INTEGRATIONS OR SOME OF OUR CONFIGURATIONS THAT WE'VE CREATED.

SO WE OPTED TO, UM, GO WITH SOMETHING CALLED TESTING AS A SERVICE, WHICH ALLOWS IBM TO TEST THOSE PATCHES PRIOR TO THEM BEING RELEASED TO OUR LIVE ENVIRONMENT, UH, SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT'S COMING DOWN WHEN IT GOES LIVE.

SO WE DON'T EXPERIENCE, UH, REAL TIME BREAKAGES.

UM, THAT WAS NOT, UH, IMMEDIATELY VISIBLE WHEN WE STARTED THE PROJECT.

UH, WHEN WE WENT TO RFP, THEY OFFERED AN A NUMBER OF HOURS WORTH OF REPORT WRITING.

ONCE WE GOT INTO THE ACTUAL UNDER THE HOOD, HOW MANY REPORTS DID BCPS NEED AND DOES NEED? THOSE REPORTS FAR EXCEEDED THE NUMBER OF HOURS THAT WE NEEDED OR THAT WE HAD ALREADY PROCURED.

SO WE INCURRED ADDITIONAL COSTS FOR REPORT WRITING.

UM, WE'VE ALSO INCURRED A COST FOR SOMETHING CALLED MANAGED SERVICES.

UH, ORACLE IS A VASTLY DIFFERENT PLATFORM THAN, UH, OUR CURRENT VENDOR.

SO THERE IS A, UM, TIME TO COME UP TO SPEED MANAGED SERVICES IS AN OFFERING THAT IBM GIVES US WHERE THEY PROVIDE SUPPORT, BOTH TECHNICAL AND FUNCTIONAL, THAT IS DESIGNED TO BE AT A HIGHER LEVEL CURRENTLY AND THEN DIMINISH OFF OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS, SO THAT AS OUR STAFF COMES TO STABILITY, THE, UH, THOSE SERVICES ARE SPUN DOWN.

SO THOSE, THOSE COSTS, UH, WERE NOT, UH, IMMEDIATELY VISIBLE WHEN WE WENT INTO THE RFP.

AND SO COMING THROUGH IT AND LEARNING ABOUT THE SERVICES THAT WE NEEDED TO BE SUCCESSFUL, THAT'S WHERE THE ADDITIONAL COSTS ARE INCURRED.

THANK YOU, MS. DOKI.

THAT'S ACTUALLY REALLY HELPFUL.

AND I THINK DIRECTING THE AUDIT COMMITTEE, OR IF WE WANNA GO, UH, OUTSIDE FOR, I'M NOT SURE WHAT MS. PE ROM WAS TRYING, I'M SORRY.

MRS. FRAM WAS TRYING TO, UM, SAY AS FAR AS IF WE NEEDED TO BRING AN OUTSIDE AUDITOR IN, BUT WHEN YOU SAY THAT BE CURED, THESE ADDITIONAL COSTS, YOU KNOW, FOR SUPPORT OR WHAT, WHATEVER IT IS, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT YOU THOUGHT AT THIS POINT AND WHY IT WAS GOING TO CO EVERYTHING LISTED OUT, UM, YOU KNOW, ITEMIZED WHAT YOU THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO COST.

AND THEN NOW THIS IS WHAT WE ACTUALLY, ONCE WE GOT INTO IT, THIS, THESE ARE ALL THE CALLS WE WERE ACTUALLY OCCURRING.

AND TO BE ABLE TO COMPARE THOSE WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO SEE THE ACTUAL NUMBERS INSTEAD OF JUST HEARING, YOU KNOW, WE NEEDED TO HIRE SOMEONE ELSE, ANOTHER PERSON, ANOTHER SUPPORT STAFF, OR, UM, IT WAS MORE INTENSE AND WE THOUGHT, AND WE NEEDED WHAT, WHATEVER EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE NUMBERS IN, IN AN AUDIT.

I GUESS MS. HEN, THANK YOU, AND I APPRECIATE MS. FONG'S COMMENTS.

I TOO FEEL LIKE AN EXTERNAL AUDIT MIGHT BE MORE SUITED FOR THIS,

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THIS PURPOSE.

HOWEVER, GIVEN OUR FISCAL REALITY, UM, THAT'S WHY I SUGGESTED STARTING WITH OUR OWN OFFICE OF INTERNAL AUDIT, UM, BECAUSE FRANKLY WE DON'T HAVE THE BUDGET FOR AN EXTERNAL AUDIT AT THIS POINT.

SO TO START WITH OUR INTERNAL AUDIT TEAM AND OUR AUDIT COMMITTEE AND ASK THEM TO WORK WITH, UM, WHAT WE, THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE, AND START BY LOOKING AT THE EXPENDITURES.

AND I AGREE WITH MS. DOKI, WE NEED TRACEABILITY.

WE NEED NOT TO GET INTO THE WEEDS, BUT WE NEED MORE DETAILS.

UM, IT'S BEEN EXTREMELY DIFFICULT AS WE'VE EXAMINED THE BUDGET, UM, TO LOOK TO, TO TRACE THAT.

AND YES, IT'S A COMPLEX PROJECT, UM, PROFESSIONALLY, I, I, I'VE IMPLEMENTED ERP SYSTEMS, I KNOW HOW DIFFICULT AND COMPLEX THEY ARE, AND I APPRECIATE, UM, THE INFORMATION YOU'VE PROVIDED TONIGHT.

THAT ALL MAKES PERFECT SENSE.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE NEED TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND, AND UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT, UM, WHERE THE DOLLARS HAVE GONE.

AND OUR PUBLIC DESERVES THAT.

SO IF WE CAN'T EXPLAIN IT, WE CAN'T JUSTIFY THAT TO, TO OUR TAXPAYERS AND, AND EXPLAIN THOSE PUBLIC DOLLARS WHERE THEY'VE GONE TO.

SO WE HAVE THE FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY TO DO THAT.

I THINK WE NEED TO START WITH OUR, OUR RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE AND ASK THEM TO PRIORITIZE LOOKING AT THIS.

UM, AND TO MR. FITZPATRICK'S COMMENTS ABOUT PUTTING A DATE BEHIND IT AND ENSURING THAT IT GETS DONE.

I'M, I'M RETHINKING THAT AND WOULD ASK THAT THE AUDIT COMMITTEE THINK THAT, THINK ABOUT THAT TOO, IN TERMS OF SETTING A DEADLINE AND WORKING WITH MS. BARR TO SEE HOW THIS CAN BE, UM, PRIORITIZED IN THEIR WORK PLAN.

AGAIN, I'M SENSITIVE TO THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE LIMITED RESOURCES AND THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.

THANK YOU, MR. YOUNG.

DID YOU I WAS GONNA SAY MS. FONG FIRST.

OKAY, MS. FONG, THANK YOU.

SO, UM, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SAY THIS.

'CAUSE I THINK RIGHT WORDS MATTER IN, I THINK I'M TRYING TO EXPRESS THIS, I THINK AUDIT PEOPLE ARE USING THE TERM AUDIT, BUT AS FAR AS, IF YOU WANNA SAY THE TRADITIONAL SENSE OF AN AUDIT FOR THE PURPOSES OF USING OUR AUDIT COMMITTEE, AND I KNOW I'M NOT EVEN SUGGESTING THAT WE USE AN EXTERNAL AUDIT, UM, BECAUSE IT'S NOT CLEAR TO ME STILL LIKE WHAT THAT PURPOSE OF THE AUDIT IS.

IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND IF THE PURPOSE OR OUR GOAL IS THAT WE WANNA UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS BUDGETED VERSUS WHAT'S BEEN SPENT, I THINK, UM, THAT IS, I THINK THAT'S THE GOAL.

AND I GUESS I'M JUST SAYING, I DON'T SEE THAT THE AUDIT IS NECESSARILY THE WAY TO DO THAT VERSUS JUST STARTING ACTUALLY JUST VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

AND I THINK WE GOT SOME OF THAT LAST MONTH AT THE JUNE 9TH MEETING.

UM, AND THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING ABOUT.

LIKE SHOW ME WHERE, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE JUST KEEP OVERSPENDING.

SO SHOW ME WHERE THE BUDGET IS AS FAR AS HOW MUCH HAVE WE BUDGETED, HOW MUCH HAVE WE ACTUALLY OVERSPENT, AND THEN HOW MUCH HAVE WE ASKED FOR ADDITIONALLY? AND TO ME, THAT'S KIND OF THE THREE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW MUCH MONEY WE'VE SPENT ON, UM, THIS PROJECT.

SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AUDIT, I GUESS THAT'S WHY I'M NOT FULLY UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE IT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE AUDIT JUST TO SAY WE HAVE THE DIFFERENTIAL, BUT WE ALREADY KNOW WE HAVE THE DIFFERENTIAL.

SO AGAIN, LIKE WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE AUDIT? AND THAT'S WHY I AM NOT NECESSARILY SAYING TO DO THIS ON THE AUDIT COMMITTEE.

I FEEL LIKE IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S PRESENTED TO US, UM, BUT IT COULD BE DONE ANOTHER WAY AS WELL.

I'M OPEN TO THAT.

I THINK WE JUST HAVE TO FOCUS ON WHAT THE GOAL IS AND FIGURING OUT THE BEST WAY TO, TO GET IT DONE.

THIS TRANSFORMATION AND IT IS A TRANSFORMATION THAT WE KNOW THE IMPLICATIONS OF THE DECISION.

I'M GONNA LET DR.

HEISER CHIME IN FOR MINUTE.

YEAH, JUST CHIME IN AND, AND OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, I'M NEW TO THIS, NEW TO THIS SITUATION AND UM, HAVE, YOU KNOW, INHERITED IT, BUT I DO, I DO WANT TO, FIRST OF ALL, I APPRECIATE THE ROBUST DISCUSSION HERE.

IT'S GOOD.

THE QUESTIONS ARE GOOD.

UM, AND I APPRECIATE OUR TEAM.

IT'S BEEN A HEAVY LIFT.

I MEAN, I'VE LEARNED THE LAST, JUST THIS PAST WEEK AND GOT A PRESENTATION FROM THE TEAM THAT YOU'RE SEEING RIGHT THERE ON EP WAS VERY, UM, APPRECIATIVE OF THAT, BUT CAME AWAY WITH A COUPLE OF THINGS.

ONE, THIS IS A HUGE, HUGE LIFT AS YOU ACKNOWLEDGED, AND THE TEAM IS, IS KIND OF RUNNING TWO SYSTEMS AT ONCE AND TRYING TO GET THIS THING, UM, UP AND READY.

UM, TWO, THERE WAS A PRESENTATION THAT WAS DONE PREVIOUSLY.

I SAW ONE OF THE SLIDES, WHICH WAS THE BUDGET ACTUALLY, AND, AND SHOWCASE THAT BUDGET.

AND I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO, TO, TO SHARE THAT AGAIN.

UM, AND UM, UM, THREE, I DID HAVE A, I HAD A QUESTION AND IT WAS REALLY FOR THE TEAM BECAUSE IF THIS CONTRACT ISN'T APPROVED TONIGHT, UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR EVERYONE TO KNOW THE IMPLICATIONS AS YOU SEE THEM.

AND UM, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL AS WE MAKE DECISIONS.

AND I DON'T SAY THAT SO THAT WE FORCE THE DECISION TONIGHT.

I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AS WE ARE UNDERGOING, UM,

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IF WE KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD ON THE 8 MILLION AND WE NEED GREATER, YOU KNOW, MORE TRANSPARENCY AND MORE INFORMATION, IT'S HELPFUL TO KNOW THAT, WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS THERE? THANK YOU.

THANKS.

UH, THANK YOU DR.

UM, SO, UH, AS WE SHOWED LAST MONTH IN THE BUDGET, WE WERE ALMOST EXACTLY SPENT OUT ON THE BUDGET AUTHORITY OF 27 MILLION THROUGH THE END OF FY 26.

SO WE'VE ENCUMBERED FUNDS FOR IBM TO CONTINUE, UH, WORKING THROUGH THE SUMMER.

UH, BUT THE KEY THING IS WE NEED TO MAKE OUR ANNUAL PAYMENT FOR THE ORACLE SOFTWARE, WHICH IS A LITTLE OVER $2 MILLION THAT IS DUE NOW.

AND WITHOUT ADDITIONAL SPENDING AUTHORITY, WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PAY OUR ANNUAL FEE TO ORACLE FOR THE CONTINUATION AND USE OF THEIR PRODUCT.

SO THAT'S THE IMMEDIATE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS OVER THE SUMMER, UH, CONSEQUENCE, UM, AS WE GET MAYBE INTO THE FALL, THEN WE'RE GOING TO START NOT HAVING MONEY TO CONTINUE TO PAY IBM TO INSTALL THE SYSTEM.

WE'RE COVERED, AS I MENTIONED, THROUGH THE SUMMER.

MR. KO'S MAY CAN, CAN PROVIDE ADDITIONAL COLOR TO THAT, BUT, UH, WE'LL HAVE AN IMMEDIATE, UH, SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM PAYING IBM.

UM, WE, UH, SO WE WOULD HAVE TO COME UP WITH A PLAN FOR THAT IF NOTHING WAS APPROVED TONIGHT.

AND THE, THE ONLY CLARITY I WOULD BRING IS THAT, UM, WHILE WE PROCURE ORACLE LICENSES FOR THE SOFTWARE, IT IS PROCURED AT A $0 PASS THROUGH, THROUGH THROUGH IBM.

SO THEY HELP US TO MANAGE THE LICENSURE.

SO WE DO NOT HAVE A SEPARATE CONTRACT WITH ORACLE.

IT IS ALL DRIVEN THROUGH OUR INTERACTION WITH IBM.

MR. YOUNG'S BEEN WANTING TO SAY SOMETHING.

WELL, JUST REITERATING, UM, YOU KNOW, SPOKEN WITH MS. BARR, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS.

SO, UM, THEY, WE'VE, THE BOARD HAS ALREADY APPROVED THE FY 27 WORK PLAN.

UM, SHE IS PREPARED TO, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT OUR REQUEST, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, COME UP WITH THE, THE LEVEL OF EFFORT AROUND THAT.

AND, YOU KNOW, THAT PLAN WOULD THEN NEED TO BE AMENDED BY THE BOARD TO, IF, IF IT'S, IF IT CAN BE DONE IN THE FY 27, THAT PLAN WOULD NEED TO BE AMENDED BY THE BOARD TO INSERT THIS IN THERE.

AND AS EVERYBODY HAS STATED, THERE ARE FINITE RESOURCES, SO SOMETHING IS GOING TO COME OFF OR GET PUSHED BACK.

SO ONCE WE HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A CLEARER IDEA OF WHAT WE REALLY WANT THEM TO DO, UM, WE CAN GIVE THEM THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT ITEM AND THEY CAN GIVE US THE LEVEL OF EFFORT.

BUT LISTENING TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS, IT LOOKS LIKE IT MAY BE A REALLY A TWO PHASED APPROACH.

ONE WITH USING THE OFFICE OF INTERNAL AUDIT, BUT THE OTHER IS GOING BACK TO THAT PRESENTATION THAT SAYS, THIS IS WHAT THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT WAS.

THIS IS WHAT WE, WHAT WE'VE BID, WHAT WE'VE SPENT, AND THIS IS THE ADD-ONS THAT WE'RE NOW REQUESTING.

SO IT MAY BE A, UM, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS A TWO PHASED ANSWER TO THIS, TO THOSE QUESTIONS.

MS. N THANK YOU.

AND, AND THE, THE INTENT, THIS WAS MY MOTION THAT I INTRODUCED IN COMMITTEE.

THE INTENT WAS NOT TO PAUSE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE ERP BY ANY MEANS.

WE APPROVED THIS CONTRACTING COMMITTEE.

UM, IT WAS MERELY TO APPROVE IT, BUT ALSO TO ASK FOR AUDIT, TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE FINANCIALS.

THAT'S ALL WE, WE APPROVED IT, AND THIS WAS A SUPPLEMENT SUPPLEMENTARY MOTION TO SAY, YES, WE, WE WANNA CONTINUE.

WE DON'T WANT TO STALL.

WE DON'T WANNA SLOW DOWN.

WE DON'T WANNA STOP THE WORK OF OUR TEAM.

THEY'RE DOING GREAT WORK.

IT IS A BIG LIFT.

UM, WE KNOW HOW CRITICAL THIS IS, UM, TO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, TO OUR SYSTEM, TO ALL OF OUR PEOPLE, THAT THAT IS NOT THE INTENT AT ALL.

SO I WANNA MAKE THAT CRYSTAL CLEAR.

UM, BUT WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE A FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY AS WELL, AND WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.

UM, THE BOARD HAS BEEN ASKING FOR THIS INFORMATION FOR A LONG TIME, AND WE FEEL WE OWE IT TO THE, I FEEL WE OWE IT TO THE PUBLIC.

SO, UM, THESE ARE PARALLEL, I GUESS, RELATED MOTIONS THAT WE, WE DON'T WANNA STALL PROGRESS.

SO, UM, I'M SUPPORTING THIS MOTION TO APPROVE IT TONIGHT AND WOULD ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO DO THE SAME.

THE, THE COMMITTEE PASSED THIS IN COMMITTEE, UM, BUT WE ALSO PASSED THIS MOTION TO ASK INTERNAL AUDIT TO TAKE A LOOK AT AS WELL.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

THANK YOU, MR. YOUNG, VICE CHAIR, YOUNG MS. EY, YOU MENTIONED IMMEDIATE DUE DATES.

DO YOU MEAN LIKE TODAY, WHAT IS THE ACTUAL DUE DATE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT WE NEED TO, IF WE, AS DR.

HEISER MENTIONED, IF WE DON'T APPROVE THIS TONIGHT, WHAT DUE DATE ARE WE FACING? WE'RE MISSING, UM, WITHIN THE NEXT, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DUE DATE OF THE INVOICE, BUT GENERALLY IT, IT, WE PAY IT IN JULY.

BEEN APPROVED BY THE BOARD.

AND, AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO ADD THE BUDGET FOR FY 27 HAS

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SO WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING FOR THE 27 PORTION OF THE CONTRACT AUTHORITY, THIS BOARD DID APPROVE WITH BUDGET ADOPTION.

BUT YOU KNOW, AS ALWAYS, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE BUDGET APPROVAL AND THE AGGREGATE CONTRACTUAL SPENDING AUTHORITY APPROVAL.

BEFORE I COULD COME TO THIS MEETING.

AND JUST TO COMMENT, I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, AND I THINK OTHER BOARD MEMBERS HAVE SAID THIS BEFORE AS WELL.

IT REALLY, FOR ME PERSONALLY, IT REALLY, WHEN WE COME DOWN TO THIS, I WISH WE COULD HAVE SEEN THIS SOONER.

I MEAN, I, THIS WAS ON THE, THE BUDGET, THE, UM, CONTRACT COMMITTEE YESTERDAY, I BELIEVE.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN CHANGE ABOUT THAT.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.

UM, CHAIR LICHTER, I BELIEVE WAS, AND WE, AND IS IT ALWAYS, DO WE ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE IT THIS WAY OR CAN WE CHANGE IT SO THAT WE'RE SEEING THESE CONTRACTS SOONER BEFORE THEY COME FORWARD TO US WITH THIS DEADLINE? SO, UM, MS. HUMPHREY, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, BECAUSE WE'VE ASKED THAT OF, UM, MS. WEBSTER AND THEIR GROUP, AND BASICALLY IT, IT WAS INVESTIGATED AND THE, THE, I THINK AS SHE POINTED OUT WITH AN EARLIER CONTRACT LIKE THAT, THESE EXHIBITS WERE STARTED ON A LOT EARLIER.

AND IT COMES DOWN TO, UM, THERE IS A TIMEFRAME AND AN APPROVAL PROCESS TO GET THEM THROUGH.

AND WITH SOME OF THEM, THE FURTHER OUT WE MAKE IT, THE, IT WILL CHANGE THE PRICE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

UH, PARTICULARLY I THINK IT WAS THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS, RIGHT, MS. WEBSTER, BECAUSE IT WAS, HEY, CAN, CAN WE ACTUALLY SEE THIS, YOU KNOW, SEE THESE CONTRACTS, THESE EXHIBITS A WEEK IN ADVANCE, A COUPLE DAYS IN ADVANCE? AND, UM, THERE'S A PROCESS BEHIND THAT.

AND, UM, THERE IS A FINAL FINANCIAL IMPACT TO SOME OF THAT.

SO WHEN YOU SAY FINANCIAL IMPACT, YOU MEAN THE PRICE IS GONNA CHANGE OR A DIFFERENT FINANCIAL IMPACT AS FAR AS STAFF WORKING ON THIS PRICE IS GONNA CHANGE.

SO IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE AN, A RANGE OF PRICE SO THAT WE CAN AT LEAST LOOK AT THE CONTRACT AND KNOW, HAVE AN IDEA OF, OKAY, THIS IS GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT PASSES EASILY BECAUSE IT FITS, IT MAKES SENSE.

WE CAN READ THE LINE ITEMS, WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

UM, BUT IT MAY BE THIS AMOUNT.

IT, IT COULD BE BETWEEN THIS AMOUNT AND THIS AMOUNT.

AND THAT MIGHT CHANGE DEPENDING ON WHEN IT COMES FORWARD IN FRONT OF US.

I JUST THINK HAVING AT LEAST THAT INFORMATION TO DISCUSS PRIOR THAN THE DAY BEFORE A BOARD MEETING, UM, WOULD BE HELPFUL.

AT LEAST TO ME AS A BOARD MEMBER.

MR. MAY, YES, GO AHEAD.

I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT.

UM, BUT THESE CONTRACTS ARE ALSO POSTED A WEEK BEFORE THE, THE SESSION IS MADE LIVE.

SO WE DO HAVE, UM, BOARD MEMBERS DO HAVE THAT WEEK BEFORE TO GO IN REVIEW CONTRACTS AND PROVIDE QUESTIONS TO THE, UH, BUILDING AND CONTRACTS COMMITTEE THAT CAN BE ANSWERED OR, YEAH, THAT CAN BE ANSWERED, UM, AT BUILDING AND CONTRACTS MEETINGS.

I'M JUST CLARIFICATION, MS. PO, ARE YOU ASKING TO MOVE THAT WE CONSIDER MOVING, BUILDING AND CONTRACTS FROM NOT THE DAY BEFORE BOARD MEETINGS? IS THAT WHAT THE ASK IS? WELL, THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL.

I JUST THINK WE, WE GET THESE ALREADY AND, AND SOMETIMES I DO HAVE TIME TO GO AND WATCH THE MEETING, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE POSTED A WEEK BEFORE, BUT IF THE MEETING WAS HELD BEFORE AND THEN THEY WERE POSTED A WEEK BEFORE THAT, THAT WOULD GIVE US TWO WEEKS INSTEAD OF A WEEK.

SO THE ASK IS TO MOVE THE, THE MEETING.

I DON'T REALLY HAVE AN ASK.

I JUST KNOW THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.

RIGHT.

JUST, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, BUT JUST ASSUMING THE BEST WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE ARE NOT, AND SOMETIMES IT, I UNDERSTAND SOMETIMES IT CAN'T BE HELPED, BUT AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO BE ABLE TO SEE A CONTRACT AND THOUGHTFULLY PROCESS IT BEFORE WE COME TO THIS BOARD MEETING AND HAVE TO APPROVE SOMETHING THIS BIG, AND WE STILL, IT'S CLEAR THAT WE STILL AREN'T ALL CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THE, YOU KNOW.

RIGHT.

AND I THINK THIS IS ANOTHER COMMUNICATION PIECE, AND THAT'S WHY I WANNA MAKE SURE DR.

HEISER IS UNDERSTANDING THE ASK SO THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CONSIDER BOTH PIECES.

UM, AND THEN, BUT NOT IF THERE, WE NEED TO KNOW IF, IF WE'RE DOING SOMETHING THAT'S NOT GONNA BE, UM, CONDUCIVE TO THE PROCESS THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON.

MS. WEBSTER.

YES, MS. SO I JUST, 'CAUSE I ALWAYS GET REMINDED OF THIS, WE APPROVE CONTRACT AUTHORITY, NOT ACTUALLY LIKE WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND RIGHT AWAY.

SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE FINANCIALS AND HAVING TO GET IT APPROVED, I'M KIND OF LIKE, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE COULDN'T GET THE CONTRACTS EARLIER IF WE'RE JUST APPROVING THE CONTRACT AUTHORITY.

WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY APPROVING A CONTRACT FOR A CONTRACTOR TO DO, LIKE, WE DON'T, WE NEVER SEE THAT TOTAL LIST.

WE'RE JUST DOING THE WHOLE BIG SUM OF MONEY THAT YOU THINK YOU MIGHT NEED.

SO THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME OTHER WAY OF, I KNOW WE GET THEM A WEEK AHEAD TO LOOK THROUGH THEM, BUT THE MEETING BEFORE IS WHEN YOU REALLY GET TO GET ASKED THE QUESTIONS.

AND AS OF I WAS TRYING TO WATCH THE MEETING, UM, IT WASN'T POSTED

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UH, THAT'S, I MEAN, WHAT, IT WAS JUST YESTERDAY, RIGHT? YEAH.

IT WAS JUST YESTERDAY.

SO I GET THAT IF, UM, IF THERE'S SOME WAY WE COULD WE TO MOVE IT TO A DIFFERENT DAY OF THE WEEK, EVEN WEDNESDAY OR THURSDAY, OR THEY, THEY, IT NEEDS TO NOT BE THE DAY BEFORE OUR MEETING BECAUSE IT JUST, WE, WE RUN INTO THESE ISSUES, DR.

SO OBVIOUSLY FOR ALL THE COMMITTEES FOR THAT MATTER, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WANNA WORK WITH EACH COMMITTEE CHAIR AND, AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S ENOUGH TIME FOR IT TO BE RE-REVIEWED BY THE FULL BOARD.

AND, UM, TO YOUR, UH, CHAIR RICHTER'S POINT EARLIER, JUST IN TERMS OF THE COMMUNICATION PIECE THAT WE KIND OF NEED TO DO.

I THINK WE'RE BUILDING THE PLANE RIGHT NOW AND FLYING IT, UH, IN REAL TIME, WE CAN KIND OF SEE THAT.

AND, UM, THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE SIX MONTHS FROM NOW.

I, I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE WON'T BE THERE AND I THINK WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY THROUGH OUR BOARD COMMITTEES AND SPACING THESE OUT IN, IN A BETTER WAY, BE MORE HELPFUL.

OKAY, MR. MCMILLION, I JUST WANT TO ADD INFORMALLY, UH, MR. BURNS AND I HAD A CONVERSATION SIX MONTHS AGO WHEN I WAS SEATED ON THAT SIDE, , AND WE TALKED ABOUT CONTRACTS.

WE TALKED ABOUT CONTRACTS AND DIFFERENT SCHOOL.

HE WORKS WITH A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT BOARDS, EDUCATION AND CONTRACT COMMITTEES MEET AT DIFFERENT FRAMES, CORRECT.

AND TO REFRESH YOU, AND THEN YOU ADDED THAT, IT WAS KIND OF UNUSUAL THAT WE WENT THE DAY BEFORE THE MEETING.

IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

I'LL ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S UNUSUAL.

I SIMPLY SAY THAT IT'S THE ONLY MODEL LIKE THAT I'VE SEEN.

SO I KNOW WE STILL HAVE SOME MOTION ON THIS FLOOR.

THE AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION, RIGHT? THE MOTION WAS TO PASS CONTRACT SIX, THEN WE HAD AN AMO AMENDMENT TO HAVE AUDIT TO PASS IT WITH THE STIPULATION THAT THE AUDIT COMMITTEE WOULD BEGIN AN AUDIT.

BUT THEN WE'VE HAD OTHER ASKS AS FAR AS LOOKING AT THE BUDGET VERSUS EXPENDITURES VERSUS ASKS, WHICH I'M NOT SURE IS AN AUDIT.

THAT'S THAT OTHER PRONG.

SO ARE, ARE YOU STILL STICKING WITH YOUR SURED MOTION? SURE.

WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO RESTATE MY, AS LONG AS YOU'RE, IF YOU MOTION TO AMEND I AM.

OKAY, GO AHEAD.

THEN REPEAT IT.

SO MY MOTION IS TO AMEND THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO ASK THE AUDIT COMMITTEE TO WORK WITH THE OFFICE OF INTERNAL AUDIT TO PLAN AN AUDIT OF THE, THE PAST AND PLANNED EXPENDITURES ON THE CONTRACT.

AND WAS THERE A SECOND? MS. GOR? MS. OKAY, MS. I'LL SECOND THAT.

MS. FONG.

WE'VE GOT SEVERAL SECONDS.

I THINK WE'VE HAD A ROBUST DISCUSSION.

SO CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL FOR BEFORE WE DO A ROLL CALL? VOTE MS. UM, LICHTER, AM I ABLE TO TRY TO AMEND THIS AMENDMENT? BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO ADD ON THAT SECOND PIECE, WE TALKED ABOUT IT BEING MULTI-PRONGED.

SO IF WE HAVE THE AUDIT COMMITTEE, COULD WE ALSO ADD THE PIECE ABOUT THEM PROVIDING A PRESENTATION TO US, WHETHER IT'S JUST THE AUDIT COMMITTEE OR AUDIT COMMITTEE AND ADDITIONAL STAFF, BUT GETTING THAT BREAKDOWN OF WHAT'S SPENT, WHAT WE'RE OVER AND WHAT'S THE ADDITIONAL MONEY.

INSTEAD OF AN EXTRA AMENDMENT.

DO YOU WANNA AMEND, YOU WANNA INCLUDE THAT IN YOURS, MS. HEN? SURE.

UM, IS THAT OKAY, MS. FONG TO HAVE ONE? MS. FONG, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ON THE AUDIT COMMITTEE? YES, I AM.

WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO BRINGING THAT TO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE IN YOUR CAPACITY AS A COMMITTEE MEMBER RATHER THAN MAKING A SEPARATE MOTION? SINCE YOU, CAN YOU HAVE A VOICE ON THAT COMMITTEE OR WE COULD DO, I DO, BUT THAT'S, I'D LIKE TO DO A COMBINED, IF YOU'RE OKAY, I'M FINE WITH, I'M FINE YOU INCORPORATING THAT AND THEN I'LL TAKE THAT COMBINED SURE.

MOTION AND I'LL BRING THAT BACK TO THE AUDIO COMMITTEE.

DOES THAT WORK FOR YOU? I'M FINE WITH THAT.

SO WOULD YOU READ THE COMBINED ONE OR STAR YOURS, AND THEN WE'LL ADD THE, THE OTHER PRONG? SURE.

GIMME ONE MOMENT AND I WILL TRY TO COMBINE THAT MOTION BY COMMITTEE TO PLAN.

NO PRESSURE.

MS. FONG, WOULD YOU PLEASE RESTATE OH, MR. BURNS POINT OF ORDER.

ONCE YOU CLARIFY WHERE MS. FONG WAS ASKING, WOULD YOU CONSIDER SEEKING CONSENT OF THE BOARD TO WITHDRAW YOUR ORIGINAL MOTION AND THEN MAKE YOUR NEW AMENDMENT MOTION, INCLUDING WHATEVER ADDITIONAL MATERIAL, BECAUSE YOU'RE STARTING TO ADD ALMOST NON-ORGANIC LACK OF BETTER WORD, ADDITIONAL THINGS ON TOP OF A MOTION THAT WAS ALREADY TO AMEND A SIMPLE MOTION TO APPROVE A CONTRACT.

WITHDRAW YOUR EARLIER MM-HMM .

I JUST THINK IF YOU'RE GONNA DO A SINGLE MOTION,

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AND THEN MAKE A NEW ONE.

AS LONG AS EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH THAT.

IT'S THE BOARD'S MOTION TO AMEND.

YOU CAN DO THAT, YES.

AND THE NEW WILL STILL BE A MOTION TO AMEND? THAT'S CORRECT.

PERFECT.

SO YOU WILL WITHDRAW.

I WILL WITHDRAW IT.

WOULD YOU PLEASE ASK MS. FRUMP TO RESTATE YES.

MS. FRUMP, CAN YOU RESTATE WHAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR? I'D LIKE TO SEE A BREAKDOWN OF THE MONEY THAT WAS BUDGETED FOR ORACLE, THIS IMPLEMENTATION, THE, UH, PERP IMPLEMENTATION, AND THEN ALSO A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT HAS BEEN SPENT.

AND THEN THE OVERAGES, UM, OVERAGES ARE ASKS, SO THESE, THE OVERAGES ARE THE ADDITIONAL ASKS, RIGHT? SO I WANTED TO GET CLEAR ON THAT, THAT LANGUAGE.

SO WHAT'S BEEN BUDGETED, WHAT'S BEEN ALREADY SPENT, THAT'S OVER.

AND THEN THE OVERAGES ARE THE ADDITIONAL ASK.

MS. HEN'S ADDING THAT TO THE END OF HER REQUEST.

UM, I MOVED, SO I'LL WITHDRAW MY YEAH, YOU ALREADY DID THAT.

I ALREADY DID THAT.

, I, I MOVED TO AMEND THE MOTION BY ASKING THE AUDIT COMMITTEE TO WORK WITH THE OFFICE OF INTERNAL AUDIT TO PLAN AN AUDIT OF THE PLANNED AND FUTURE CONTRACT EXPENDITURES TO INCLUDE A REPORT AND BREAKDOWN OF BUDGETED VERSUS ACTUAL PLANNED AND FUTURE EXPENDITURES.

MS. FRUMP.

ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT WORDING? WHAT IS FUTURE EXPENDITURES? IS THAT THE OVERAGES THEN THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, ADDITIONAL MONEY THAT THEY HAD NOT ASKED FOR? YES.

BUDGETED VERSUS ACTUAL, BUT IT'S THREE THINGS.

IT'S BUDGETS, ACTUALS, AND ADDITIONAL ASKS.

PLANNED AND FUTURE OR, YES.

MS. LICHTER, CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION PLEASE? JUST TO WORD IT MORE EFFICIENTLY, UM, YOU COULD CALL IT BUDGETED VERSUS PROJECTED EXPENDITURES THROUGH THE END OF FY 28.

THAT WOULD INCLUDE EVERYTHING WE SPENT AND EVERYTHING WE'RE ASKING FOR HERE, WHICH IS OUR PROJECTION THROUGH THE END OF FY 28.

AND FROM, UM, OUR PERSPECTIVE, UH, THE TERM OVERAGE IS, UM, THAT, THAT'S A MISSION CRITICAL DEFINITION AT THIS JUNCTURE WHERE, UM, AN A COST OVERRUN MIGHT BE DIFFERENT THAN, UH, INCURRING, UH, ADDITIONAL, UH, SERVICES THAT WE DID NOT PROJECT AT THE VERY BEGINNING.

SO, UM, I, I JUST WANNA BE REAL CLEAR WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE MEAN BY OVERAGE VERSUS, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, WE PROCURED A, UH, CUSTOM PIECE OF SOFTWARE THAT DOES OUR, UM, EXTRA DUTY ASSIGNMENTS THAT WAS ABOUT $500,000 ONE TIME COST, BUT ALLOWS OUR PRINCIPALS TO ASSIGN THOSE EDS WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT EXISTED WHEN WE STARTED.

SO I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY CONSIDER THAT AN OVERAGE.

THAT WAS AN, THAT WAS A COST THAT WAS UNANTICIPATED, BUT WILDLY BENEFICIAL TO THE SYSTEM.

I WANNA READ IT ONE MORE TIME.

AND I'M, I'M SHORTENING THIS, BUT LET ME KNOW IF THIS IS ACCURATE.

UM, I MOVE TO AMEND THE MOTION BY ASKING THE AUDIT COMMITTEE TO WORK WITH THE OFFICE OF INTERNAL AUDIT TO PLAN AN AUDIT OF THE BUDGETED VERSUS PROJECTED EXPENDITURES THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 28.

MR. RAMON, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? I HAVE A QUESTION BASED ON WHAT MR. KO'S JUST SAID.

MR. KORN, SO THIS $8 MILLION MM-HMM .

THAT'S BEING ASKED FOR RIGHT NOW ON THE CONTRACT.

HOW IS THAT CLASSIFIED? WHAT IS THE TERM? HOW, HOW IS IT CLASSIFIED? UH, CURRENTLY, I WOULD CALL IT SPENDING AUTHORITY.

SO RIGHT NOW, AS MR. TIFF SAID, WE'VE ALREADY, UM, ENCUMBERED ALL OF THE FUNDING TO DO OUR IMPLEMENTATION.

THESE ADDITIONAL, UM, DOLLARS ARE FOR THE REMAINING REMAINING, UM, UH, ORACLE LICENSURE, AS WELL AS THE MANAGED SERVICES FEES AND THE TESTING AS A SERVICE FEES.

AND I BELIEVE WE INCLUDED ABOUT 1.25, $1.25 MILLION IN, UM, CONTINGENCY.

CONTINGENCY CONTINGENCY.

MM-HMM .

SO WITH THAT MONEY, IS THAT COVERED UNDER PROJECTED? IT WOULD BE.

TO SPEND 35 MILLION THROUGH THE END OF FY 2028.

THEN.

WITH WHAT YOU JUST SAID THOUGH, ABOUT THIS $500,000 THAT WAS NOT ORIGINALLY BUDGETED, WOULD THAT BE COVERED UNDER, WHAT'S THE TERM FOR THAT? I, I, I THINK, UM, WE SPENT 27 MILLION TO DATE.

WE'RE PROJECTING

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THAT'S ALL ENCOMPASSING SOFTWARE LICENSES.

UM, NEW PROJECTS THAT WE DEEMED CRITICAL ONCE WE GOT INTO IT, ADDITIONAL REPORTING, IT'S, UH, EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE PROJECTING, WHICH WOULD COVER EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

UNDERSTOOD.

BUT IT DIDN'T ASK MY QUE ANSWER MY QUESTION.

AND SO I'M ASKING BECAUSE I WANNA MAKE SURE WHEN WE GET THIS INFORMATION, THINGS ARE NOT PILED TOGETHER OR COMBINED TOGETHER.

AND SO THE $8 MILLION TO ME IS IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO SEE MM-HMM .

BUT THEN THIS $500,000 IS IMPORTANT TO SEE FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF IT WASN'T ORIGINALLY BUDGETED FOR.

AND YES, WE ENDED UP, AND I'M NOT QUESTIONING MR. KO'S, LIKE EXPERTISE, IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEEDED MM-HMM .

BUT IT WASN'T BUDGETED FOR.

SO BECAUSE THE MONEY WAS SPENT ON THAT ITEM, THEN WE DIDN'T GET TO SPEND 500,000 ON SOMETHING ELSE.

MM-HMM .

SO IS THAT STILL CONSIDERED PART OF THE BUDGET OR NOT? AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS TOO.

LIKE, I WANNA BE CLEAR.

SO WHEN WE GET THIS INFORMATION, AGAIN, IT'S CLEAR FOR EVERYBODY.

WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE WITH THE TERMS AND WE UNDERSTAND THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

MS. FONG, I WOULD CLASSIFY, UM, PARTICULARLY THE EDA TOOL AS AN, AN, AN ADDITIONAL, UH, SERVICE.

UM, IT WAS A, IT WAS A SERVICE THAT WE NEEDED TO TAKE CARE OF, THAT WE DID NOT HAVE KNOWLEDGE THAT WAS A AVAILABLE UNTIL IT WAS, UM, REQUESTED.

SO, UM, IN A NORMAL COURSE OF ACTION, I WOULD'VE BROUGHT THIS FORWARD TO YOU AS A, UM, A, A ANOTHER, UM, SERVICE THAT WE WOULD'VE BROUGHT ON BOARD.

WE CAN CERTAINLY BREAK DOWN THE SPENDING, UM, TO THE DOLLAR ON HOW IT, IT WENT OUT OF THE SYSTEM, UH, BASED ON EVERYTHING THAT WE EXPENDED.

SO THAT, THAT, UM, DOCUMENT IS READILY AVAILABLE AT, UH, DR.

ER'S, UM, UM, UH, DIRECTIVE.

I WILL HAPPILY MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS AVAILABLE TO THE BOARD AND YOU CAN HAVE A LINE BY LINE BREAKDOWN OF EVERY DOLLAR WE'VE SPENT AND WHERE IT WENT.

MS. DOKI, JUST, UH, FORGIVE ME MS. , I'M TRYING TO, UM, JUST, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE ASKING, AND IF I'M WRONG, TELL ME I'M WRONG.

WHEN THE, WE FIRST APPROVED THE ERP CONTRACT, THERE WAS A CERTAIN SPENDING AUTHORITY THAT YOU EXPECTED TO SPEND THROUGH 28, 20 20, WHATEVER IT WAS.

THAT'S WHAT I THINK WE WANNA SEE.

AND THEN NOW WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED AND THIS IS WHERE WE EXPECT TO BE NOW AT THE END OF 2028.

I, I, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET RIGHT, MS. FRIEND? I AM.

SO I WORDSMITH THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE.

, IF I MAY READ THIS AGAIN AND SURE.

MR. BURNS, YOU'RE COOL WITH THAT? OKAY.

UM, TO PLAN, AND I'LL READ JUST THE END OF MY MOTION TO PLAN AN AUDIT OF THE BUDGETED ACTUAL AND PROJECTED EXPENDITURES THROUGH FY 28, INCLUDING A REVIEW OF EXPENDITURES AGAINST CONTRACTUAL PROJECT DELIVERABLES.

I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT? NOT HEARING ANYTHING? YES.

THAT'S GOOD.

SOMEBODY'S RAISING HER HAND IN THE, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON.

WE'RE OKAY TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT WITH THIS ADDITIONAL, OKAY.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR.

SO WE ARE STILL ON, THIS IS AN AMENDMENT.

THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE APPROVED MOTION.

SO, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO READ THE WHOLE THING MADAM CHAIR? YES.

SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON WHEN SHE'S READING RIGHT NOW? CORRECT.

GO.

I MOVE TO AMEND THE MOTION BY ASKING THE AUDIT COMMITTEE TO WORK WITH THE OFFICE OF INTERNAL AUDIT TO PLAN AN AUDIT OF THE BUDGETED ACTUAL AND PROJECTED EXPENDITURES THROUGH FY 28, INCLUDING A REVIEW OF EXPENDITURES AGAINST CONTRACTUAL PROJECT DELIVERABLES.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

YOU HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION.

GO AHEAD.

JUST, JUST, JUST TO LEVEL SET.

UM, MS. HIN, THE NEXT AUDIT COMMITTEE MEETING IS IN SEPTEMBER.

IT'S TWO MONTHS AWAY.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I WILL BE WORKING WITH MS. BARR AFTERWARDS TO, YOU KNOW, GET THE BALL ROLLING ON WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO DO WHAT'S BEING ASKED.

WE CAN ADD A MEETING IF YOU NEED TO.

NO, OR NOT, SORRY.

THE NEXT AUDIT, THE NEXT AUDIT MEETING IS IN SEPTEMBER.

MR. KO, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING, UH, ONLY FOR CONSIDERATION ON TIMELINES AND DELIVERABLES? OUR GO LIVE IS IN OCTOBER, SO, UM, STARTING AN AUDIT, UM, AFTER THAT GO LIVE MIGHT BE MORE BENEFICIAL SO THAT WE CAN ALLOW THE TEAM TO FOCUS TO GET THROUGH IT, UM, TO COLLECT ALL THE INFORMATION THAT AUDIT MAY WANT.

MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE PLEASE.

MS. HUMPHREY? YES.

MS. THORNTON ABSTAIN.

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MS. LTER? YES.

SO THAT PASSES, BUT I THINK WE STILL HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO, TO DO.

RIGHT BACK TO THE ORIGINAL APPROVE NUMBER SIX AS AMENDED.

RIGHT.

UM, SO MAY I HAVE A, DO I NEED TO GET MORE MOTIONS OR WE ALREADY HAD A MOTION.

IT'S ALREADY ON THE FLOOR.

IT'S ALREADY ON THE FLOOR.

MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE PLEASE.

SO YOU'RE VOTING ON CONTRACT SIX AS AMENDED.

MS. HUMPHREY? YES.

MS. THORNTON ABSTAIN.

THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR THAT DISCUSSION.

THANK YOU STAFF FOR ANSWERING OUR QUESTIONS.

ARE NOW ON AGENDA ITEM P, WHICH IS WAS ADDED BY MS. DEBOWSKI, NEW BUSINESS PUBLIC COMMENT.

[P. ADDED: NEW BUSINESS - PUBLIC COMMENT (Ms. Domanowski)]

I'M GONNA LET HER BEGIN THE DISCUSSION.

UM, IF YOU CHECK YOUR EMAIL, I JUST SENT THE, UM, A MOTION I'M ABOUT TO PROPOSE.

IT'S A QUITE LENGTHY ONE, SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAD IT.

I MOVE TO AMEND THE CURRENT PUBLIC COMMENT AND ATTENDANCE GUIDELINES AND PROCEDURES BY AMENDING NUMBERED PARAGRAPH ONE AS FOLLOWS.

STRIKE THE WORDS AND END INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS OR STUDENTS FROM LINE FOUR AND INSERT THE WORDS, 15 SPEAKERS FOR INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS AND STUDENTS.

AND TO IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE WORDS SIGN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT IS LIMITED TO IN LINE THREE WITH THESE, UM, WITH THESE AMENDMENTS.

THE SENTENCES IN LINE TWO THROUGH FOUR OF PARAGRAPH ONE SHALL READ BASED ON BOARD POLICY 83 15 AS AMENDED ON JULY 11TH, 2023.

SIGN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT IS LIMITED TO 15 SPEAKERS FOR INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS AND STUDENTS, AND FIVE SPEAKERS IN EACH OF THE FOLLOWING CATEGORIES, SCHOOL SYSTEM, AFFILIATED GROUPS, UNIONS, AND NONPROFIT COMMUNITY GROUPS.

I FURTHER MOVE THAT BOARD.

POLICY 83 15 BE REFERRED TO THE POLICY COMMITTEE FOR REVIEW AND ANY CONFORMING AMENDMENTS NECESSARY TO ALIGN THE POLICY WITH THE CHANGES APPROVED IN THIS, IN THESE GUIDELINES AND PROCEDURES.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION, MS. DOKI? UH, JUST BRIEFLY.

UH, I FEEL I, I DON'T THINK THAT, UM, 15 SLOTS ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE USED, BUT I ALSO FEEL LIKE WHEN WE LIMIT IT TO FIVE, THE PEOPLE THAT SIGN UP THAT DON'T GET SELECTED FEEL LIKE THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

EVEN IF THEY COME AND SIGN UP AT THE LAST MINUTE, SINCE THEY HAVE, WE, WE CHOOSE IT BY THAT MONDAY, YOU HAVE TO DO IT BY THAT MONDAY.

UH, I JUST THINK THAT THIS GIVES MORE OF OUR, I MEAN, AS YOU'VE SEEN IN THE MORE RECENT MEETINGS, HAVE MORE, UM, INPUT FROM OTHER INDIVIDUALS COMMUNITY MEMBERS, HEARING FROM THE, UM, THE DIGITAL LITERACY GROUP, THAT IT'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL.

AND FROM THE LIBRARY MEDIA SPECIALISTS, WE'VE JUST HEARD FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE RECENTLY THAT WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM IN A LONG TIME.

AND I, I REALLY THINK THAT WE NEED TO ADV ADVANCE.

WE NEED TO BROADEN THAT CATEGORY MORE THAN THE OTHERS.

THANK YOU MS. HEN.

MY SECOND THANK YOU, CHAIR LICHTER.

I THINK, UM, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT BEING ONE OF DR.

HE'S PRIORITIES, THIS IS A PERFECT TIME TO EXPAND THE NUMBER OF, UM, VOICES THAT WE HEAR FROM AND THAT DR.

HEISER HEARS FROM.

SO I'M STRONGLY IN SUPPORT OF MS. DOMINO'S MOTION.

MS. HUMPHREY.

I HAVE A QUESTION AND A CONCERN.

MY QUESTION IS, I SORT OF WANNA BE CLEAR HERE.

ARE YOU LOOKING FOR 15 SPACES FOR EACH OF THE GROUPS? OKAY.

SO YOU'RE LOOKING FOR 15 SPACES UNDER INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS OR STUDENTS.

AND I'M NOT AGAINST THAT, HOWEVER, OUR POLICY SPECIFICALLY RIGHT NOW STATES FIVE.

SO I'M NOT SURE WE'RE ALL IT, IT SEEMS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO CHANGE POLICY WITHOUT ACTUALLY, SO THE POLICY, I UNDERSTAND YOU WANNA REVIEW IT, BUT I THINK FEEL LIKE WE'RE DOING IT BACKWARDS.

WELL, SO I CHECKED ON THAT AND WE ACTUALLY WROTE THIS BEFORE WE CHANGED THE POLICY.

IF YOU LOOK, UM, THE WAY THAT THE GUIDELINES WERE AMENDED, THEY WERE FIRST APPROVED IN FEBRUARY, BUT THEN THEY WERE AMENDED BY THE POLICY.

THEY WERE IN FEBRUARY, 2023.

AND THEN, LIKE, EFFECTIVE, I'M SORRY, THEY WEREN'T, THEY WERE AMENDED IN FEBRUARY, 2023.

BUT THEY WEREN'T EFFECTIVE UNTIL THE POLICY WAS AMENDED IN, I THINK IT WAS, UH, JUNE, 2023.

I'M NOT, DON'T QUOTE ME ON THOSE DATES, BUT WE DID PASS THE PROCEDURES FIRST AND THEN WE DID THE POLICY, AND THEN IT WAS, THEY WEREN'T IN EFFECT UNTIL THE POLICY WAS PASSED.

YOU'RE SAYING WE DISCUSSED THE GUIDELINES FIRST.

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WE CHANGED IT, BUT WE DIDN'T PUT IT INTO EFFECT UNTIL THE POLICY CHANGED.

I DON'T KNOW.

I I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW THE, UM, I SENT IN.

UM, LEMME GO BACK AND I'LL LET SOMEBODY ELSE SPOT.

I'LL, I'LL, OKAY.

AND ALSO, IF MR. BURNS HAS ANY, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M CORRECT HERE.

IF HE HAS ANY INPUT ON THIS AS WELL.

JUST WANNA MAKE SURE PROCEDURALLY WE'RE, WE'RE DOING THIS PROCEDURALLY RIGHT, CORRECTLY.

SO, NOT THAT I'M AGAINST IT AT ALL.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING THIS CORRECTLY.

AS A MATTER OF LAW, YOU ALL IN, IN ONE OF THE SECTIONS IN THE EDUCATION ARTICLE, YOU HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY AND DUTY TO ADOPT POLICIES AND REGULATIONS TO RUN YOUR SCHOOL SYSTEM.

IF YOU'VE ADOPTED POLICIES AS OPPOSED TO SIMPLY KEPT THINGS IN YOUR HANDBOOK OR KEPT IT IN GUIDELINES, BUT ACTUALLY ADOPTED A POLICY THAT SPECIFIES THIS IS WHAT WE'RE ALLOWING AND OR THIS IS HOW WE WILL DO WHAT WE ALLOW FOR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.

I WOULD URGE CAUTION ABOUT INFORMALLY CHANGING POLICY WHEN IT, WHEN IT SAYS WHAT IT SAYS.

RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE.

NO, NO ONE ASKED MY OPINION AT THE TIME.

BUT YOU HAVE A POLICY AND IF YOU'RE GONNA CHANGE POLICY, CHANGE POLICY IN ACCORDANCE WITH YOUR ACTUAL WAYS OF DOING SO, THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T ADJUST HOW IN ANY PARTICULAR MEETING YOU WANT TO HANDLE PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT YOU CAN'T VIOLATE YOUR POLICY.

SO I AM, I KNOW THE CONCERN YOU'RE RAISING AND IT DOES, IT, IT IT IS A LEGITIMATE CONCERN, MS. POEY.

AND SO I ALSO, AND I REMEMBER THIS DISCUSSION AND NOT THAT I, I JUST, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE CHANGED SOME THINGS AROUND, BUT WE DIDN'T REALLY FORMALLY CHANGE THESE ACTUAL GROUPS AND THE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS UNTIL WE CHANGED THE POLICY, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

BUT IT'S BEEN A WHILE BACK TO REMEMBER THAT, UM, EXACT CONVERSATION.

BUT LIKE MR. BURN SAID, REGARDLESS OF IF WE DID IT INCORRECTLY THE FIRST TIME, I STILL FEEL LIKE CORRECTLY WE SHOULD DO IT CORRECTLY THE SECOND TIME.

THANK YOU MS. THORNTON? YES.

UM, DO BURKOWSKI MS, DO BURKOWSKI, CAN YOU PLEASE, UM, FORWARD THAT EMAIL TO MY OFFICIAL BOARD EMAIL PLEASE? 'CAUSE I'M NOT ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE DISCUSSION.

'CAUSE I DO NOT HAVE THE INFORMATION.

SORRY.

I, THE ONLY EMAIL THAT CAME UP WHEN I WAS TYPING I UNDERSTAND WAS THE OTHER ONE, BUT YES, I WILL.

THANK YOU MR. FITZPATRICK.

ARE YOU GONNA DO THAT RIGHT NOW? THANK YOU, MR. MENZA.

JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, SO YOU'RE NOT, THE ONLY CHANGE YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS ADDITIONAL 10 ADDITIONAL SPACES FOR THIS INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS NOT CHANGING THE OTHER CATEGORIES AT ALL.

IT'S JUST ONE, IT'S REALLY JUST ONE ASK.

YEAH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE, UH, THIS, SO IT CAN BE, UH, UNTIL SUCH TIME THAT THE POLICY COMMITTEE CAN, UH, REVIEW AND, UH, BRING THIS BACK TO THE, BACK TO THE BOARD, UH, ON SEPTEMBER 14TH.

UH, WOULD BE A MOTION TO REFER, BUT THAT'S ALWAYS IN THE ORIGINAL MOTION.

SO, SECOND EY, I WAS GONNA SAY SECOND.

THE ONE.

UM, DO YOU WANNA SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION OR, IT'S PRETTY SELF-EXPLANATORY.

YEAH, I JUST THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M NEW HERE, BUT THE SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE TO HAVE POLICY BEFORE WE HAVE PROCEDURE.

SO I UNDERSTAND IT WAS DONE DIFFERENTLY IN THE PAST, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE, WE, IT HAS TO GO THAT WAY.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON, ON MR. FITZ? THAT'S AN AMENDED MOTION OR WHAT MOTION? IT'S JUST A MOTION MOTION TO POSTPONE.

MS. HEN? YES, THIS IS MS. FONG.

I PUT MY HAND RAISED.

UM, SO MY COMMENT IS ON THE MOTION TO POSTPONE, UM, AND ALSO ON MS. DOMINO'S COMMENT ABOUT, UM, PROCEDURE.

SO DURING SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES IN THE EX, OH, WAIT.

GO AHEAD, MS. UM, DURING SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES, THE BOARD HAS SET INFORMAL REGULATIONS, AND I'LL POINT TO THE GLOBAL PANDEMIC AS AN EXAMPLE.

WHEN POLICY WAS NOT CHANGED, UM, WE HAD POLICIES THAT ADDRESSED, UM, THE SCHOOLHOUSE BRICK AND MORTAR SCHOOLHOUSE POLICIES THAT DID NOT ADDRESS THE SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES, UM, DURING THE GLOBAL PANDEMIC WHEN THE BOARD WAS NOT, UM, CHANGING POLICY ON THE FLY.

UM, WHILE THAT MAY BE AN EXTREME, I WOULD ARGUE THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE WITH OUR NEW SUPERINTENDENT TO INCREASE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT GIVEN HIS, UM, NEW TENURE, HIS CHANGE IN LEADERSHIP, THE PRIORITY, PRIORITY OF HEARING FROM OUR COMMUNITY.

AND WHILE IT MAY BE, UM, NORM TO CHANGE THE POLICY FIRST FOLLOWED BY CHANGING THE REGULATION, I THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET THE BALL ROLLING AND TO STATE THAT WE WANT TO HEAR FROM MORE VOICES AND TO ASK THE POLICY COMMITTEE TO, UM, ACCEPT THAT, YOU KNOW, TO ALIGN POLICY AFTER THE FACT THAT WE WANT TO HEAR, TO STATE AS A BOARD THAT OUR WILL IS TO HEAR FROM MORE VOICES IN THE COMMUNITY ADVISOR'S PRIORITY, UM, OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

SO I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THOSE SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES WHEN WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO AND, AND TO DO SO IMMEDIATELY

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RATHER THAN WAIT.

AND THEN THAT OUR POLICY WILL EVENTUALLY REFLECT THAT.

BUT THIS IS ONE OF THOSE TIMES, AND, AND I'M NORMALLY BY THE BOOKS, WE NEED TO SET POLICY BEFORE WE SET REGULATIONS.

I'VE SAID THAT MULTIPLE TIMES IN IN PRC AND IN BOARD MEETINGS.

BUT I THINK THIS IS AN EXCEPTION AND IT, IT'S AN IMPORTANT ONE WHERE WE NEED TO HEAR FROM AS MANY DR.

HEISER NEEDS TO HEAR FROM AS MANY VOICES AS POSSIBLE.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

UM, MS. FONG, THANK YOU.

UM, I AM IN AGREEMENT WITH, UM, A LOT OF WHAT HAS BEEN SAID ABOUT THE PUBLIC COMMENT, AND I ACTUALLY SPOKE ABOUT THIS IN A PREVIOUS BOARD MEETING, AND I ASKED THAT, UM, THAT BOARD POLICY 83 15 BE REFERRED TO THE POLICY COMMITTEE.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT HAS BEEN ADDED TO OUR 26, 27, UH, WORK PLAN POINT OF ORDER.

I HATE TO INTERRUPT, AND I ALMOST SAID IT WITH MS. HEN AND I SHOULD HAVE, BECAUSE WE ARE DISCUSSING, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO POSTPONE AND WE'RE DISCUSSING THE ORIGINAL MOTION.

SO WE NEED A MOTION, WE NEED TO DISCUSS THE MOTION TO POSTPONE BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD.

I, I THINK MS. PANS WAS ABOUT THE MOTION TO POSTPONE.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT MS. FONG'S IS, BUT WE HAD AN ORIGINAL MOTION.

CORRECT.

SO I WASN'T ABLE TO FINISH WHAT I WAS SAYING, SO, OKAY.

IS IT ABOUT THE MOTION TO POSTPONE? CORRECT.

GO AHEAD.

SO, AS I WAS SAYING, I HOPE THAT THAT INFORMATION IS ON THE, UM, 26 27, BECAUSE OUR FIRST MEETING WILL BE SEPTEMBER 14TH.

WITH BEING ABLE TO POSTPONE THIS AND ACTUALLY DO IT THROUGH THE OFFICIAL CONDUIT OF THE PRC, WE CAN STAFF HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT IT AS WELL IN ITS TOTALITY.

UM, I DON'T KNOW WHERE MS. UM, DOKI CAME UP WITH THE 15, AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH IT, BUT STAFF COULD LOOK AT IT AND MAYBE THEY COME BACK WITH A DIFFERENT NUMBER.

UM, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE ABLE TO KIND OF HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AND HAVE THE SUPPORT OF STAFF HAVING LOOKED AT THE POLICY, UNDERSTANDING WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO THE PRC SO THAT IT CAN BE DISCUSSED IN, UM, TOTALITY, AND THEN IT CAN COME BACK TO THE BOARD.

SO I THINK IT DOES MAKE SENSE TO POSTPONE THIS AND HAVE PRC REVIEW IT FIRST.

UM, MS. DOKI ABOUT POSTPONING? YES.

UM, I, I, I, I'M ASKING FOR ONE NUMBER CHANGE.

I DON'T UNDER, I DON'T SEE THE REASON IN POSTPONING IT AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, WEIGHING THE NUMBER 15 AS OPPOSED TO SOME OTHER NUMBER.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOTAL NUMBER OF, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS AND STUDENTS WE HAVE, COMPARED TO THE NUMBER OF MEMBERS IN AN OR IN OUR OTHER CATEGORIES, STAKEHOLDERS, UM, 15 IS PRETTY, UM, LOW FOR THAT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION TO POSTPONE MS. HEN? ONE QUICK COMMENT.

I DON'T THINK THIS CHANGE REQUIRES STAFF INPUT.

IT, THESE GUIDELINES WERE SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD DEVELOPED ON OUR OWN.

MS. GO ASSISTED US WITH LOGISTICS AND KEEPS US STRAIGHT AS SHE ALWAYS DOES.

SHE'S AMAZING.

SO I DON'T THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO GO BACK TO POLICY FOR STAFF REVIEW.

GO AHEAD MR. FITZPATRICK.

UH, YEAH, I, I I DO APPRECIATE, UH, MS. HEN'S, UH, DESIRE TO ACT, UH, UH, AS A PERSON WHOSE CLOCK IS PROBABLY TICKING THE FASTEST AROUND HERE, .

BUT, UH, UH, THIS IS, I I, I DON'T NECESSARILY SEE THIS AS, AS AN EMERGENCY, AND I CERTAINLY DEFINITELY AGREE.

THERE ARE, THERE ARE TIMES WHEN WE HAVE TO BREAK WITH A PROCEDURE AND WE HAVE TO MOVE EXPEDITIOUSLY, UH, FOR THE GOOD OF THE, UH, THE SYSTEM.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS RISING TO THAT LEVEL.

MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL? GO AHEAD.

UH, I, I WANNA JUST REITERATE LIKE IT'S NOT AN EMERGENCY SITUATION, BUT I'M ALSO NOT DRASTICALLY CHANGING THE POLICY.

LAST COMMENT.

MS. THIS IS REALLY MORE OPERATIONAL RATHER THAN POLICY.

I WOULD BE MAKING THE SAME ARGUMENT IF I FELT IT WAS POLICY TOO, THAT IT NEEDS TO GO THROUGH COMMITTEE.

SO, THANK YOU.

MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THE MOTION TO POSTPONE MS. DO'S MOTION.

FAVOR? SEVEN.

SO THE MOTION TO POSTPONE PASSES.

ENGAGEMENT AND STEER FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

MS. SLOSKY? UM, I, I KNOW THAT THE, THE GOAL IS REALLY JUST TO INCREASE

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SO IN THE MEANTIME, UM, MAYBE WE CAN CLEARLY COMMUNICATE THAT FOR ANYBODY THAT DOES NOT GET TO SPEAK AT A BOARD MEETING, UM, THEY'RE ABLE TO EMAIL AND OR CALL THE BOARD AND WE'LL GET A RESPONSE FROM APPROPRIATE STAFF.

UM, OKAY.

SO WHAT MOVE, RIGHT? BUT MR. BURNS, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO SAY ABOUT THIS? NO.

I, I, OKAY.

SO I THINK, I THINK IT WAS JUST SAID AS AN OFFER OF INFORMATION.

THAT WAS JUST INFORMATIONAL MISSED LIST.

YEAH.

JUST, YOU KNOW, A WAY TO RIGHT.

INCREASE ENGAGEMENT WHILE WE'RE AWAITING THE RESULTS.

I, I THINK THE SCRIPT DOES TALK ABOUT MAILING THE BOARD IF YOU'RE NOT SELECTED, BUT WE CAN LOOK AT CHANGING SOME, MAKING THE LANGUAGE STRONGER.

RIGHT, THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS NEW BUSINESS NAMING OR RENAMING AN AREA.

THE NEXT,

[Q. NEW BUSINESS - SPECIAL PROJECT AND NAMING OR RENAMING AN AREA (Dr. Jones) (8:25 - 8:35 p.m.)]

AND FOR THAT, I CALL MR. MUSTER ON BEHALF OF DR. JONES.

GOOD EVENING, MR. MUSTER.

AND SINCE THESE ARE BOTH FOR TOWSON HIGH SCHOOL, IF YOU WANNA PRESENT THEM BOTH AT THE SAME TIME, FEEL FREE.

YES, MA'AM.

UH, BOARD CHAIR LICHTER, VICE CHAIR, YOUNG MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, SUPERINTENDENT HEISER.

I APPEAR BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING TO PRESENT A PRO TWO PROPOSALS IN ACCORDANCE WITH RULE 75 30 SECTION A TO NAME THE NEW CONCESSION STAND AT TOWSON HIGH SCHOOL IN HONOR OF DR.

JIM FUJITA.

FUJITA WAS A LONGSTANDING AND DEEPLY RESPECTED VOLUNTEER WITHIN THE TOWSON COMMUNITY, GENEROUSLY GIVING HIS TIME THROUGH TOWSON SPORTS BOOSTER AND THE TOWSON RECREATION COUNCIL.

FRIDA'S CONNECTION TO HOUSE TOWSON HIGH SCHOOL WAS PERSONAL, ENDURING AND ROOTED IN LOVE FOR THE TOWSON COMMUNITY.

NO MATTER THE SPORT, SEASONAL WEATHER, DR.

FUJITA COULD BE FOUND AT TOWSON HIGH SCHOOL STADIUM, STEPPING IN WHENEVER HELP WAS NEEDED, ESPECIALLY IN A CONCESSION STAND.

FUJITA CONSTANTLY TALKED ABOUT A DAY WHEN TOWSON HIGH SCHOOL COULD OFFER A PERMANENT, UM, WELCOMING FACILITY THAT WOULD SERVE STUDENTS, STAFF, PARENTS, AND VISITING COMMUNITIES.

IF APPROVED, THE NEW CONCESSION STAND WOULD BE NAMED JIM'S SNACK SHACK.

THE SECOND PROPOSAL, AGAIN, IN ACCORDANCE WITH 75 30 SECTION A, IS TO NAME THE NEW TOWSON HIGH SCHOOL, UM, STADIUM FIELD IN HONOR OF MR. RANDY DAYS.

MR DAYS IS REMARKABLE LEGACY AS A DISTINGUISHED ATHLETE, DEDICATED TEACHER AND CHAMPIONSHIP COACH EMBODIES THE SPIRIT AND TRADITION AND EXCELLENT OF TOWSON HIGH SCHOOL.

MR DAYS GRADUATED FROM TOWSON HIGH SCHOOL IN 1972.

HE EXCELLED IN MULTIPLE SPORTS, UM, AS AN ATHLETE EARNING VARSITY LETTERS EVERY SEASON IN SOCCER, LACROSSE, AND BASKETBALL.

AFTER GRADUATING FROM JOHNS HOPKINS UNIVERSITY, HE RETURNED TO HIS ALMA MATER, WHERE HE TAUGHT HISTORY, ECONOMICS, GOVERN GOVERNMENT AND CONSTITUTIONAL LAW FOR 43 YEARS, WHICH IS THE LONGEST TEACHING TENURE OF AN ALUMNI IN THE SCHOOL'S HISTORY.

IN ADDITION, MR. DAYS HAD THE LONGEST COACHING TENURE IN TOWSON HIGH SCHOOL HISTORY, WINNING 10 CHAMPIONSHIPS, WHICH IS A TESTAMENT TO HIS LEADERSHIP AND PASSION FOR STUDENT SUCCESS.

IF THESE ARE APPROVED, IF THESE PROPOSALS ARE APPROVED, THE NEW SCOREBOARD AS WELL AS THE NEW SNACK SHACK WILL BE FUNDED BY THE TOWSON HIGH SCHOOL SPORTS BOOSTERS.

THANK YOU MR. MUSTER.

MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE DEDICATION OF THE NEW TOWSON HIGH SCHOOL STADIUM CONCESSION STAND AS JIM'S SNACKS SHACK AND RECOGNITION OF DR.

JIM FTA? HOW'D YOU PRONOUNCE THAT? YEP.

THAT'S AS PRESENTED IN NEW EXHIBIT Q1.

SO MOVE JI.

MAY I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND ESKI.

ANY DISCUSSION? MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE PLEASE.

NEXT MAY HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE DEDICATION OF THE SCOREBOARD AT TOWSON HIGH SCHOOL STADIUM AS THE RANDY DAY SCOREBOARD AS PRESENTED IN NEW EXHIBIT Q2.

MAY I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

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SECOND.

JI SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE PLEASE.

THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS INFORMATION, WHICH INCLUDES THE MAY, 2026 FINANCIAL REPORT, THE FY 2025 SINGLE AUDIT REPORT PRESENTED AT THE JUNE 16TH AUDIT COMMITTEE MEETING THE MEETING MINUTES OF THE SOUTHEAST AREA EDUCATION ADVISORY COUNCIL FOR APRIL AND MAY.

MR. MUSTER.

YOU CAN ORGANIZE THE BOARD TRIP TO THE SNACK SHACK AT TOWSON HIGH SCHOOL, .

[R. INFORMATION (8:35 p.m.)]

THE POLICY EDITING CONVENTIONS FOR 2026 TO 2027 PRESENTED AT THE JUNE 15TH PRC MEETING AND REVISED SUPERINTENDENT'S RULES.

32, 10 35, 30 36, 10 37, 10, AND 63 0 3.

THE NEXT UM, AGENDA ITEM IS BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS, COMMITTEE UPDATES, AND CONSIDERATION OF AGENDA ITEMS FOR FUTURE DISCUSSION.

UM, OKAY,

[S. BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS, COMMITTEE UPDATES, AND AGENDA SETTING (8:35 - 8:45 p.m.)]

I'M GONNA PROVIDE THE BOARD MINUTE COMMENTS, UM, NOT THE BOARD MINUTE.

NO, I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT BOARD MEMBER COMMITTEES.

UM, THE BOARD IS IN THE PROCESS OF CHANGING COMMITTEES AND SOME OF OUR COMMITTEES WILL HAVE NEW CHAIRS, AND I DON'T WANNA PUT ANYBODY ON THE SPOT AT THIS POINT.

UM, OUR NEW UPDATED BOARD COMMITTEE SCHEDULE WILL BE POSTED SOMETIME NEXT WEEK, UM, FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE.

SO UNLESS ANYBODY NEEDS TO SAY SOMETHING SPECIFIC AT THIS TIME, WE'LL JUST KIND OF PUT THAT ON HOLD TO GET THIS TRANSITION DONE AND REPORT OUT NEXT TIME.

UM, ARE THERE ANY BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS OR AGENDA ITEMS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO BRING FORWARD AT THIS TIME? MS. DOKI? YES.

I JUST SENT AN EMAIL AND I DID THE CORRECT ADDRESS THIS TIME, BUT I DID, UM, THERE'S ONE TYPO IN IT, SO, UM, YOU'LL HEAR WHEN I READ IT.

I MOVE THAT THE BALTIMORE COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION DIRECT, OH, SORRY.

AND SORRY, I MOVE THE BOARD OF EDUCATION, APPROPRIATE STAFF DRAFT A NEW POLICY FOR ESTABLISHING STANDARDS FOR ACCEPTABLE STUDENT SCREEN TIME USE IN THE CLASSROOM AND FOR INSTRUCTIONAL PURPOSES, INCLUDING CLEAR GUIDANCE ON INSTRUCTIONAL VERSUS NON-INSTRUCTIONAL USE, AGE GRADE, APPROPRIATE LIMITS, ACCESSIBILITY AND IEP 5 0 4 CONSIDERATIONS, TEACHER DISCRETION AND CLASSROOM MANAGEMENT EXPECTATIONS, PARENT GUARDIAN COMMUNICATION MONITORING AND ENFORCEMENT PROCEDURES, AND AN IMPLEMENTATION TIMELY LINE.

AND THAT THE DRAFT POLICY BE PRESENTED TO THE BOARD FOR REVIEW AND PUBLIC COMMENT WHILE A FINAL VERSION BROUGHT BACK FOR BOARD ADOPTION, THERE'S A COUPLE TYPOS IN THERE.

SO, SORRY, , IS THERE A SECOND TO MS. DUBANSKY'S? MOTION? SECOND.

MS. HEN? THANK YOU.

UM, ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY.

MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.

MS. POEY? YES.

MR. MCMILLIAN? WHOOPS.

I'M SORRY.

MS. THORNTON? I'M SORRY.

MOTION PASSES.

ANYBODY ELSE? MS. DOKI, YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP? YES.

UM, JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT, GIVEN THAT WE ARE GOING TO GET THAT INFORMATION AND KNOWING THAT IT WAS EXPRESSED TO HAVE CONTRACT INFORMATION BROUGHT TO US IN ADVANCE, IF WE CAN HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THESE TOPICS AND, UM, WHICH TOPICS, SOME OF THE TOPICS IN THE, IN THE MOTION AHEAD OF THE DAY THAT WE'RE GONNA MAKE THE VOTE.

WELL, FIRST IT WOULD GO TO PO I'M ASSUMING THIS GOES TO POLICY REVIEW.

CORRECT.

AND THEN IT WOULD GO THROUGH THE CHANNELS THAT WE TAKE ANY NEW POLICY THROUGH.

SO IT WOULD COME SO AS PART OF THAT PROCESS YEAH.

BE THAT WHOLE, IT WOULD BE VERY FIRST READER, SECOND READER.

YEP.

ALL THAT.

AND THEN, UM, AN AGENDA TOPIC FOR A FUTURE MEETING SPECIFICALLY.

'CAUSE PARENTS WERE TALKING ABOUT PRODIGY, EPIC, AMIRA, IT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE TO HAVE A PRESENTATION ON SOME OF THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT ARE USED AND, UM, OKAY.

YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE DATA SURROUNDING THEIR EFFECTIVENESS WITH STUDENT LEARNING.

AND REMEMBER, IF YOU THINK OF AN AGENDA ITEM LATER, JUST EMAIL IT TO ME AND WE'LL ADD IT TO THE PLANNING MEETING.

MR. MCMILLION, MS. HEN'S HAND IS UP.

WELL, I'M GONNA LET YOU ALL HAVE A CHANCE.

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SO, , GO AHEAD MS. HEN I TOO HAVE A MOTION.

I MOVE THAT THE BOARD DIRECT SUPERINTENDENT HEIZER AND APPROPRIATE STAFF TO SUBMIT A FORMAL REQUEST FOR NOTTINGHAM MIDDLE SCHOOL TO BE DESIGNATED A LOW PERFORMING SCHOOL AND COMMUNITY SCHOOL, UM, TO, AND SUBMIT A REQUEST TO MSTE BY JULY 31ST.

SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? I JUST, I JUST, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.

YEAH.

REGARDING THE MOTION, IS THIS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE ALREADY, THE PREVIOUS MOTION THAT WE HAD THAT I'M NOT SURE IF IT WAS ACTED ON THE SECOND PART OF IT? OR IS THIS A NEW MOTION? MAY I RESPOND? YES.

UM, GIVEN THE CHANGE IN LEADERSHIP, THAT, THAT'S THE CHANGE IN THIS MOTION.

UM, WE HEARD FROM MS. CROW, I BELIEVE TONIGHT THAT THERE'S AN ALTERNATE PROCESS, SO I DIDN'T SPECIFY THAT PROCESS IN MY MOTION, BUT I'LL, I'LL TRUST THAT DR.

HEISER AND HIS TEAM WILL DETERMINE THE APPROPRIATE NEXT STEPS TO SUBMIT A REQUEST TO MSDE.

THANK YOU DR.

BASED ON THAT TESTIMONY AND THE REQUEST, WE'LL LOOK INTO THE MATTER AND I'LL GET BACK TO YOU WITH, UH, THE DECISION ABOUT WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE.

DO WE STILL NEED THE MOTION WITH DR.

ER'S FILE ABILITY TO FOLLOW UP ON THIS? I'M, I'M WILLING TO MODIFY IT, BUT I'D STILL LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO INDICATE THE BOARD'S SUPPORT OF, UM, THESE NEXT STEPS.

UM, MS. FONG, UM, YES.

SO HOW WE MADE A MOTION PREVIOUSLY.

AND SO YES, WE HAVE A NEW SUPERINTENDENT, BUT WOULDN'T THE MOTION STILL STAND FOR THIS CURRENT SUPERINTENDENT? AND SO IF THERE'S NEW INFORMATION, I'D LIKE THAT INFORMATION TO BE, I GUESS, RESEARCH BY DR.

HEISER AND HIS TEAM, AND THEN THAT INFORMATION PRESENTED TO US BEFORE WE DETERMINE WE HAVE TO REQUIRE HIM TO DO SOMETHING.

UM, SO I, I JUST LIKE TO HEAR FROM DR.

HEISER AND THE, THE BCPS FIRST BEFORE WE REQUIRE A MOTION TO ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING, BECAUSE THE CURRENT MOTION THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE SHOULD STILL BE STANDING TO GOVERN HIM DOING EVERYTHING HE CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS SCHOOL IS, UM, IS TITLED APPROPRIATELY AND CAN GET THE RESOURCES IT NEEDS.

CHAIR.

MAY I RESPOND? AND THEN, UM, YES, GO AHEAD.

I I WOULDN'T EXPECT, UM, THE BOARD TO HOLD DR.

HEISER ACCOUNTABLE TO COMMITMENTS FOR HIS PREDECESSOR.

SO I LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS MOTION, AND I'M HAPPY TO ASSIST HIM WITH BRINGING HIM UP TO SPEED AS HIS STAFF WILL NO DOUBT, UM, WITH THE HISTORY OF THIS REQUEST.

BUT I'D LIKE TO, HE'S STARTING FROM SCR, YOU KNOW, FROM A CLEAN SLATE AND WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THIS MOTION FROM A, A CLEAN SLATE AND, UM, REVISIT IT.

AND GIVEN ITS TIME SENSITIVE NATURE, I FEEL LIKE THIS, THIS WARRANT'S ACTION SEPARATE FROM THE MOTION THAT WAS MADE PREVIOUSLY.

MS. THORNTON, UM, I KNOW THAT WE DON'T WANNA HOLD, UM, DR.

HESSLER ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE PREDECESSOR, BUT I GUESS FOR ME, I'M, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE URGENCY FOR THE MOTION AND IF THERE'S ANY DATA TO PRESENT TO SUPPORT THE MOTION THAT YOU'VE PUT ON THE FLOOR.

MAY I, MAY I RESPOND? MADAM CHAIR, CHAIR VICTOR? YES.

SHE CAN RESPOND TO IT.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

THE, THE URGENCY IS NOTTINGHAM MIDDLE NEEDS RESOURCES FOR THE NEXT SCHOOL YEAR AND JULY 31ST IS THE DEADLINE THAT THE STATE HAS SET FOR THEM TO REQUIRE TO OBTAIN THOSE RESOURCES.

THEY HAD THOSE RESOURCES WHEN THEY WERE PREVIOUSLY GOLDEN RING STUDENTS HAD RESOURCES THAT WERE LOST WHEN NOTTINGHAM MIDDLE OPENED AND JULY 31ST IS THE, THE DATE THAT THEY HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO APPLY FOR THOSE RESOURCES THROUGH THE STATE.

SO THAT'S THE TIME SENSITIVE NATURE AND WHY THIS REQUEST IS URGENT.

CAN I DO A FOLLOW UP IF YOU DON'T MIND? YES.

GO.

DO, DO YOU HAVE ANY DATA TO SUPPORT THE DATA? IS THE TESTIMONY WE HEARD TONIGHT FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT'S BEEN WORKING ON THIS REQUEST FOR TWO YEARS.

SINCE NOTTINGHAM MIDDLE OPENED.

SO I GUESS I WOULD AGREE WITH, UM, MS. REY TO SEE IF DR.

HESSLER WILL ALLOW HIM AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE, WITH THE RESEARCH THAT HE NEEDS BEFORE WE BRING A MOTION BEFORE THE FLOOR.

MS. DOKI, I WAS ONLY GONNA SAY THE DATA THAT, UM, THERE'S DATA THAT IS ON, UM, MSDE FOR LAST YEAR'S TOTALS AS FAR AS WE HAVE THAT, AND THAT SHOWS THAT WE ARE A LOW PERFORMING SCHOOL.

AND, UM, BUT THE DATA THAT WAS USED TO DENY IT WAS A, WAS LIKE AN INTERNAL DATA THAT WE WERE NEVER, WE WERE TOLD WHAT IT WAS, BUT WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY GET TO SEE IT.

SO I THINK THAT, AND I'M NOT SAYING IT WAS FALSE, I'M JUST SAYING WE NEVER SAW IT.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTED TO SEE.

SO YOU'RE RIGHT, LIKE THERE IS SOME DATA THAT WE WOULD

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LIKE TO SHOW, UM, TO, LIKE, TO BACK IT UP OR IF THERE'S ANOTHER AVENUE THAT CAN BE RESEARCHED BECAUSE NOTTINGHAM HAS COME, IS COMING BACK AND BACK AGAIN AND THEY NEED THE RESOURCES AND THEY'RE LOSING THEIR TEACHERS THAT IT, I I JUST, WE, I IT'S A, IT'S A CONCERN THAT'S NOT GOING AWAY.

AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD ADDRESS IT.

THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCREPANCIES ABOUT THE PROCESS.

SO SOME ARE SAYING THAT THE PROCESS WAS USED AND THEY, WE GOTTA KNOW, OTHERS ARE SAYING THERE'S ANOTHER PROCESS.

SO THERE'S A LOT THAT NEEDS TO BE UNTANGLED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE WE DID GET INFORMATION THAT SAID MSDE SAID THERE IS NO APPEAL PROCESS.

THE ALTERNATIVE METHOD THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT, I'M NOT SURE WHAT IT IS.

SO NO MATTER WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT AND UNTANGLED AND DEFINED OUT YES OR NO, BUT I DUNNO IF A MOTION IS NEEDED OR IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN ANYWAY.

I DON'T CHAIR I'LL, I'LL WITHDRAW MY MOTION.

I TRUST DR.

HEISER TO FOLLOW UP WITH HIS TEAM.

THE COUPLE HANDS JUST WENT DOWN.

MR. MCMILLIAN, I JUST, THERE'S A TIDBIT I ASK A QUESTION IF THE NAME WOULD'VE REMAINED GOLDEN RING MIDDLE, BUT IT'S NOT JUST GOLDEN RING MIDDLE.

I, I KNOW.

BUT THE NAME CHANGE AFFECTED WHETHER THE, THE, THEY GOT THE, THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE.

SO, BUT I SPECIFICALLY ASKED AND ONE OF THEM ANSWERED RIGHT THERE AND SAID THAT YES, IF IT WOULD'VE REMAINED GOLDEN RING MIDDLE AND WE HADN'T CHANGED THE NAME, THEY WOULD'VE GOT THE RESOURCES.

SO THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE GOING ON HERE RIGHT.

THAT WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE PIECES.

SO DR.

HEISER, YOU HAVE THE CHARGE.

WE'LL MAKE SURE YOU'RE ON THE CASE.

UM, WHAT ARE WE DOING A ANY COMMENT? ANY MORE COMMENT? I , I'VE LOST WHERE WE ARE.

WE ARE TALK YES.

AGENDA.

MR. MCMILLIAN YOUR TURN.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE LIBRARY MEDIA SPECIALISTS GET ON FOR AUGUST 11TH.

RIGHT? THAT'S, WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT THAT.

I KNOW HE'S REACHED OUT TO YOU.

YES, WE'RE COMMITTED TO THAT.

YEP.

THANK YOU MR. FITZ.

PATRICK? YEAH, I WOULD LIKE THE BOARD TO RECEIVE A REPORT, UM, ON THE IMPACT OF HAVING MOVED THE SCHOOL PSYCHOLOGIST FROM 10 TO 12 MONTHS TO 10 MONTH POSITIONS.

I CAN MAKE A MOTION.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO.

OR JUST REQUEST, JUST COLLECT AGENDA, AGENDA ITEMS AND, OKAY.

I'D LIKE TO REQUEST THAT REPORT.

UM, I HAVE SOME METRICS I'D LIKE TO FOCUS ON.

I CAN JUST EMAIL THAT.

ANY OTHER AGENDA ITEM REQUEST AGAIN? YOU CAN EMAIL THEM TO ME.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO FEEL OBLIGATED TO BRING 'EM UP NOW.